Cockpit

* User Profile

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length

Who's Online

  • *Users: 3
  • *Guests: 18
  • *Total: 21

Author Topic: Help me repair ACE yoke  (Read 2565 times)

Offline NedH

  • Forum GURU
  • *
  • Posts: 24
  • Aviation Enthusiast
  • First Name: Ned
  • Home Location: Cary NC
Help me repair ACE yoke
« on: September 18, 2014, 11:44:59 AM »
My ACE yoke has stopped working for right and left turn movements. The pitch and buttons all work.

Has anyone experienced similar problems? It's somewhere in the yoke itself either the pots or the USB controller board.

Before I start taking it apart I'm asking if anyone knows what's inside? Is the controller board in the base? Is the aileron pot in the top or the bottom? If it's in the top how do I get to it?

Any advice would be appreciated--taking it out and apart is going to be a major task.

Thanks.

Offline fsaviator

  • I am chained to this website!
  • *
  • Posts: 1,150
  • Aviation Enthusiast
    • Boeing 737 Next Generation Simulator
  • First Name: Warren
  • Home Location: Dupont, Washington
Re: Help me repair ACE yoke
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2014, 12:46:24 PM »
The controller board is attached to the center of base.  Wires run from the card up through the yoke column into the yoke.
The aileron pot is in the top of the Captains side column.  I can't for the life of me figure out why it wasn't built in to the bottom...  where the elevator one is.  I can't help you on how to get to it though.
If you can get to the board, check to see if a connection has come loose.  Also check to see if you have accidentally pinched some wires.  I would hate to go through the trouble of disassembling the yoke for nothing.

Take pictures if you end up going in, as they would help the rest of us.

Good luck.  One other thing...  if you are going in anyway, maybe you should think of replacing the pot with a hall effect sensor.
Warren "MTN385"
Washington

http://www.B737NG-SIM.com and https://www.facebook.com/fsaviator on facebook
FSX, Prosim737 Suite, FDS DSTD 2.0 MIP, RevSim Proline TQ, ACE Dual-linked Yokes, Intel 3.5GHz i7-3770K, MSI Z77A-G45, 16GB G.Skill TridentX DDR3-2400, Galaxy GTX670 GC 4GB, OCZ 60GB Vertex 3

Offline NedH

  • Forum GURU
  • *
  • Posts: 24
  • Aviation Enthusiast
  • First Name: Ned
  • Home Location: Cary NC
Re: Help me repair ACE yoke
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2014, 07:15:03 AM »
Thanks for the info. If I replace the pot with a hall effect sensor is it a one-to-one replacement for the three pins on the pot? Or is there more work involved?

Offline fsaviator

  • I am chained to this website!
  • *
  • Posts: 1,150
  • Aviation Enthusiast
    • Boeing 737 Next Generation Simulator
  • First Name: Warren
  • Home Location: Dupont, Washington
Re: Help me repair ACE yoke
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2014, 12:35:40 PM »
It's just one to one.  The benefit is no wear with a hall effect sensor.  Not essential, but if you're going through the trouble.  I would check every possibility first though, even hooking it to a different computer to ensure that it is not system specific.
Warren "MTN385"
Washington

http://www.B737NG-SIM.com and https://www.facebook.com/fsaviator on facebook
FSX, Prosim737 Suite, FDS DSTD 2.0 MIP, RevSim Proline TQ, ACE Dual-linked Yokes, Intel 3.5GHz i7-3770K, MSI Z77A-G45, 16GB G.Skill TridentX DDR3-2400, Galaxy GTX670 GC 4GB, OCZ 60GB Vertex 3

Offline NedH

  • Forum GURU
  • *
  • Posts: 24
  • Aviation Enthusiast
  • First Name: Ned
  • Home Location: Cary NC
Re: Help me repair ACE yoke
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2014, 09:56:47 AM »
Well I plunged in and took every thing apart (almost). I could not get close to the aileron pot because it would have required removing the aileron tension spring.

Apparently a wire was pinched or a connection was loose because in the course of taking everything apart the yoke started behaving.

I took a bunch of photos that might be helpful for others who have to dis-assemble the ACE yoke.

Offline Trevor Hale

  • Administrator
  • I am chained to this website!
  • *
  • Posts: 3,246
    • Cockpitbuilders.com
  • First Name: Trevor
  • Home Location: New Liskeard, Ontario
Re: Help me repair ACE yoke
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2014, 11:03:51 AM »
Fantastic photos and fantastic help for everyone.

Great job and I am very glad you got it to work again.
Trevor Hale

Owner
http://www.cockpitbuilders.com

Director of Operations
Worldflight Team USA
http://www.worldflightusa.com

Offline matta757

  • Forum GURU
  • *
  • Posts: 399
  • 757 builder
    • Matt's 767 Project
  • First Name: Matt
  • Home Location: Minnesota
Re: Help me repair ACE yoke
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2014, 01:12:07 PM »
Has Ali completely disappeared? His input would have been quite helpful in this post...

Offline willow

  • Forum GURU
  • *
  • Posts: 49
  • New Flight Deck Builder (B-737)
    • Flaps 2 Approach
  • First Name: Iain (aka WilloW)
  • Home Location: Hobart, Tasmania Australia
Re: Help me repair ACE yoke
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2014, 08:24:29 PM »
A very good write up with attached photographs.  No doubt useful to others who may experience similar problems,   WilloW
WilloW  (YMHB)
www.Flaps2Approach.com

Offline NedH

  • Forum GURU
  • *
  • Posts: 24
  • Aviation Enthusiast
  • First Name: Ned
  • Home Location: Cary NC
Re: Help me repair ACE yoke
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2014, 08:33:42 PM »
Has Ali completely disappeared? His input would have been quite helpful in this post...

I've sent Ali several emails over the past year and have never received a reply. It's a shame the lack of communication. The yoke is extremely well made. Support not so.

Offline markfire

  • Forum GURU
  • *
  • Posts: 189
  • 737NG Cockpit Builder
    • My 737 Simulator
  • First Name: Mark
  • Home Location: Essex
Re: Help me repair ACE yoke
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2014, 07:33:14 AM »
Hi Ned


I guess it will be one of the wires to the bodnar board come loose. Put yoke on its back. Undo the screws on the bottom that attach the top plate to it. Lift of top plate making sure you dont snag wires on right hand side servo (bit tight).  You then have access to the bodnar card and you can see where all the wires are attached. Simply re-connect to pc and test. If its not a loose wire then you'll probably have to dismantle the head assembly, again not a major job, just fiddly!


Hope that helped.


Mark

Offline raam123

  • CockpitBuilder
  • *
  • Posts: 10
  • Aviation Enthusiast
  • First Name: Ittai Arnon
Re: Help me repair ACE yoke
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2017, 03:54:51 PM »
Well I plunged in and took every thing apart (almost). I could not get close to the aileron pot because it would have required removing the aileron tension spring.

Apparently a wire was pinched or a connection was loose because in the course of taking everything apart the yoke started behaving.

I took a bunch of photos that might be helpful for others who have to dis-assemble the ACE yoke.

How did you get to the aileron potentiometer ? Behind the plate ?  :'(

 

Recent Posts

New supplier for your sim
by jackpilot
[Today at 08:29:27 AM]
OEM MCP conversion worth the hassle?
by 727737Nut
[August 18, 2017, 06:54:49 PM]
Projector screens changing brightness
by ZK CWD
[August 18, 2017, 01:03:36 AM]
The Sim
by jackpilot
[August 17, 2017, 06:34:23 PM]
Solenoid Engines Start Switch Installation
by zeineddine
[August 17, 2017, 12:01:21 AM]
Back to School SALE event - 50% discount
by luisgordo
[August 16, 2017, 10:09:23 PM]
New here
by 737NGer
[August 16, 2017, 10:23:47 AM]
Telex 750 Headset 4 sale
by jackpilot
[August 15, 2017, 03:16:42 PM]
Boeing 737 Homecockpit parts
by mellox90
[August 14, 2017, 09:02:27 AM]
Hello from New US Based Supplier!
by navcom
[August 14, 2017, 05:44:37 AM]
737-800 Arduino X-Plane Build
by kurt-olsson
[August 13, 2017, 05:36:15 AM]
MH-60 Helicopter (retired Navy simulator) for sale
by navymustang
[August 11, 2017, 08:58:38 PM]
Oasis 737 Project
by 737NGer
[August 11, 2017, 05:11:40 PM]
Project Magenta sounds and PM Systems
by jr2mey
[August 11, 2017, 09:41:58 AM]
In search of this panel...
by XOrionFE
[August 09, 2017, 03:07:23 PM]
Mickey's Flightdeck - A Boeing 737-800 Cockpit on Youtube
by bernard S
[August 09, 2017, 08:21:22 AM]
Upgrade advice and final items clarification
by N606DL
[August 09, 2017, 06:19:22 AM]
XPlane and Avionics softwares.
by Ridgenj
[August 08, 2017, 08:59:32 PM]
Source for Color 5.7" LCD Flat Panels
by gjha97
[August 08, 2017, 12:38:20 PM]
back lite Lamps help needed
by jackpilot
[August 08, 2017, 11:19:56 AM]
CP flight, CDU, throttle
by Orphee
[August 06, 2017, 06:34:10 AM]
Extremely Close Call!
by Joe Lavery
[August 06, 2017, 02:34:29 AM]
P3D v4 Multi Channel
by Ed
[August 05, 2017, 10:38:44 PM]
German B738NG Homecockpit-Projekt
by kurt-olsson
[August 05, 2017, 09:12:08 AM]
mycockpit.org Gone?
by Bob Reed
[August 05, 2017, 08:05:51 AM]
Backlit Knobs Source?
by mickc
[August 04, 2017, 06:33:31 PM]
ActiveSky - across networked PCs anyone
by tennyson
[August 04, 2017, 08:46:21 AM]
Orlando Approach 17L - Working on Atmospheric Conditions & 3rd Party Airports
by Michael_B737_ATP
[August 04, 2017, 08:14:05 AM]
Go home Boeing, you're drunk....
by RayS
[August 03, 2017, 05:53:08 PM]
GoFlight Radio RMK (SOLD)
by jackpilot
[August 03, 2017, 08:38:35 AM]