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Title: German B738NG Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: MjTom on November 25, 2015, 08:58:03 AM
Hello,
after I got some important measures from this competent community,
I continued working on my homecockpit.
The forward and aftersidewalls are finished and you may see the result.
Thanks a lot for help!

(http://fs5.directupload.net/images/151125/temp/n5sykdj8.jpg) (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4183/n5sykdj8_jpg.htm)
(http://fs5.directupload.net/images/151125/temp/or3pobdj.jpg) (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4183/or3pobdj_jpg.htm)
(http://fs5.directupload.net/images/151125/temp/krgl9cjp.jpg) (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4183/krgl9cjp_jpg.htm)
so long, Thomas
Title: Re: update homecockpit-projekt
Post by: Trevor Hale on November 25, 2015, 11:06:00 AM
Awesome work.  Glad we were able to help!

Trev
Title: Re: update homecockpit-projekt
Post by: Bob Reed on November 27, 2015, 10:00:35 AM
I am always blown away by what some can produce in wood! Nice job!  :D
Title: Re: update homecockpit-projekt
Post by: Joe Lavery on November 27, 2015, 02:14:03 PM
It seems a shame to paint all that beautiful woodwork. Very nice clean job...

Joe.
Title: Re: update homecockpit-projekt
Post by: MjTom on January 25, 2016, 09:58:54 AM
I will present you the next update.....it was a hard way to completion

- audio port
- ashtray
- sound system (rear speaker)
- air condition
- trim of the window frames
- and many little things that can make big trouble  ;)

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/482544-1453734761.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=482544-1453734761.jpg)

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/2093e3-1453734812.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=2093e3-1453734812.jpg)

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/a58b07-1453734924.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=a58b07-1453734924.jpg)

and again: I thank all for the help!

so long, Thomas
Title: Re: update homecockpit-projekt
Post by: Buster99 on January 25, 2016, 02:28:48 PM
Very impressive build progress  8)

Great job so far!

Best Regards,
Marc
Title: Re: update homecockpit-projekt
Post by: MjTom on July 11, 2016, 12:35:24 PM
Hi,
After a longer period, a little update from my projekt and of course a question.  ::)
I am just building the lower section (FMC, lightpanel ect.)
For the lower DU, I will use a 12,1"" display.
But I can see 5mm on the right and left edge from this display under the frame.
it is not so bad, but maybe it can makes more accuarate.
Which display do you have installed?

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/260c5e-1468254438.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=260c5e-1468254438.jpg)

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/751ada-1468254503.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=751ada-1468254503.jpg)

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/5277bf-1468254653.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=5277bf-1468254653.jpg)

so long, Thomas
Title: Re: update homecockpit-projekt
Post by: Caflyt on July 11, 2016, 06:22:11 PM
I used black electrical tape on the backside of the glass to hide my edges,
When the display is on and has a black(ish) background then the tape sort of blends right in
P.S. My "glass" is smoke grey also. I had all of the panels cut from smoke grey plexiglass.
Craig
Title: Re: German-Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: navymustang on July 12, 2016, 07:02:46 AM
Thomas, great looking system so far. I would recommend painting a black stripe on the backside of your cover glass for the lower display. That will cover the LCD frame nicely. I also recommend you move your display frame up so that the top of the frame is at the same level as your CDUs. This will give it a look more like the real aircraft. Right now your frame is aligned with the bottom of the CDUs.
Jim
Title: Re: German-Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: MjTom on July 12, 2016, 08:17:56 AM
thank you for the suggestions, that brought me an idea.

I will test the following:
a thin,  non reflecting pane (2mm) which I will spraying in a silk-matt black with a gradient colour.
perhaps, this will blurring the transition from edge to display.

I also recommend you move your display frame up so that the top of the frame is at the same level as your CDUs. This will give it a look more like the real aircraft. Right now your frame is aligned with the bottom of the CDUs.
Jim
.....  yes, I will remember it.
The frames are bad anyway, they look cheap.
So I need another.

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/9f660c-1468326362.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=9f660c-1468326362.jpg)




Title: Re: German-Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: MjTom on July 26, 2016, 09:54:47 AM
My first real cockpit parts.....I´m in love  :-*

in great condition with new hide covers and headrest..... ;D
So, only missing the rest around.   :(

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/c3c81e-1469541775.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=c3c81e-1469541775.jpg)

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/08705b-1469541806.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=08705b-1469541806.jpg)

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/0905bf-1469541833.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=0905bf-1469541833.jpg)

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/e962b7-1469541869.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=e962b7-1469541869.jpg)

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/327919-1469541896.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=327919-1469541896.jpg)

I`ll sleep on it tonight  ^^
Title: Re: German-Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: B747-400 on July 26, 2016, 01:03:48 PM
Hi Thomas,

congratulations! I remember the day I picked up my IPECO seats ... I know how you feel very well  8)

I've two questions:

1st: where did you buy this beautiful seats?

2nd: you created excellent sidewalls. How did you do the planning? Did you use a CAD program etc.?

Servus aus Wien
Hans
Title: Re: German-Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: MjTom on July 26, 2016, 04:12:46 PM
Hallo Hans,
1. The seats comes from "Airline Pilot's Historical Society"....
     ......once again a big "THANKS" to Nick

2. the sidewalls:
    -  plans from the www.
    -  demolished twice for a rebuilt
    -  a lot of help by friendly people from this community,
       who send me pics with the correct dimensioning
There are all MDF panels, which have been hardened with "acrylic-resin".

Title: Re: German-Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: B747-400 on July 27, 2016, 04:08:39 AM
THX
Title: Re: German-Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: MjTom on July 31, 2016, 05:59:27 AM
Hi,

Actually I just wanted to remove the dirt and renew the velcro.
I started to remove the old glue and a paint layer, as this have dissolve
Somebody sprayed a 1K paint over the original paint and dust without cleaning it before.
(I suspect the maintenance personnel, which made a airplane check)

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/78bf08-1469959691.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=78bf08-1469959691.jpg)

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/955dd4-1469959732.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=955dd4-1469959732.jpg)

After 3 days and a few bottles of beer for the nerves, the seat was completely dismantled.
I'll let pretreat the painted parts from a profi and repaint.
All other parts will be cleaned by myself and reused. The usedlook comes back from alone.
About 200 pictures will help by the assembly work.

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/f19c16-1469959759.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=f19c16-1469959759.jpg)

so long, crazy Thomas
Title: Re: German-Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: mickc on July 31, 2016, 06:33:14 AM
Hi Thomas.

If you need it, I have the Component Maintenance Manual for the seats from Ipeco, which includes exploded parts diagrams.

I disassembled mine and went to assemble them almost 2 years later, and it was invaluable.

https://www.facebook.com/Micks737/posts/778304915612177 (https://www.facebook.com/Micks737/posts/778304915612177)

With regard the paint, i had to use paint stripper, as the aluminium is too thin so sandblast.  It took almost 2 weeks to get all the parts back to bare metal, but the result is awesome.   Im sure you will have a great time :)

Cheers,

Mick
Title: Re: German-Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: MjTom on July 31, 2016, 06:49:29 AM
Hi Mick...

....cool pictures!
and a good place for the buttkicker, a have the same.
Component Maintenance Manual:that will be great,  I'll contact you.

Title: Re: German-Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: B747-400 on August 01, 2016, 02:04:11 AM
Hi Tom and Mick,

wow, that's what I call a mega-puzzle  ;)
Have fun reassembling!

Cheers
Hans
Title: Re: German B738NG Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: MjTom on September 08, 2016, 01:18:13 PM
Hi,
A few pictures after removing the paint (chemical) and after powder painting.

also nice without paint:
(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/9f8be1-1473354763.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=9f8be1-1473354763.jpg)

with the holder for Buttkicker (seen by Mick):
(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/f62607-1473354663.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=f62607-1473354663.jpg)


powderpaintig...better than new:

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/e6a913-1473355283.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=e6a913-1473355283.jpg)

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/a34105-1473355334.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=a34105-1473355334.jpg)


Preview of the next project:
I got the two OEM circuit breaker panels from a B737-800 NG.
much I tell already.....after stripping 36 kg lighter  ;)

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/1a8228-1473355808.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=1a8228-1473355808.jpg)

so long, Thomas
Title: Re: German B738NG Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: bernard S on September 08, 2016, 02:43:52 PM
Welcome to the world of crazy :-)
Title: Re: German B738NG Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: MjTom on March 23, 2017, 12:11:00 PM
Hi,
The winter time has gone, time for an update from the Boeing cellar.
What happens:
- adjust rudder machine
- finish roof panels
- modify roof panels, to be prepared for the OEM part
- the two eyebrow windows (covered with original leather from 1969) were restored
  they are just at the paint shop
- aluminum sheets has been fitted (Mip, MAP, light panel and CDU bay)
- frame for the forward/ after overhead constructed
  the frame is foldable downwards, the box is dustproof and still gets a equipment cooling
- find a lot of other little OEM parts, which should give the cockpit reality
  NG-maplights, mikes, dome light, pilot's case, etc.
 
Actually should be the paint on it .... no chance.
The cockpit evolves into a never-ending story.
But I do not give up!

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/e8e5f5-1490285692.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=e8e5f5-1490285692.jpg)
(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/1286b9-1490285726.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=1286b9-1490285726.jpg)
(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/d5eeb2-1490285750.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=d5eeb2-1490285750.jpg)

next projects:
- adjust the rear panel with the original circuit breaker panels from an B738NG of 1998
- filling and sanding
- finish the second IPECO seat

Thanks to all (especially Karl) for the help, pictures and measures.
so long, Thomas
Title: Re: German B738NG Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: MjTom on August 05, 2017, 08:39:59 AM
Hello
A small update from the slowest cockpit builder at all times.
After the german weather forced me into the cellar, I have finished a few things.
Although  I've used purchased rudders ans footrests from a well-known manufacturer, no dimension was at the original.
So everything must be made new:
(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/ef76b2-1501936802.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=ef76b2-1501936802.jpg)
(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/e3433e-1501936843.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=e3433e-1501936843.jpg)
(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/dff78c-1501936877.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=dff78c-1501936877.jpg)
The crank unit is in the making. The pedals can then be adjusted in the range of 10cm.

first color:
I have painted the after raceways with a special color.
I do not think you can see that they are made of wood.
(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/05b5c5-1501936696.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=05b5c5-1501936696.jpg)
(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/5963a4-1501936754.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=5963a4-1501936754.jpg)

The heap is getting bigger and bigger
(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/349e6a-1501937921.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=349e6a-1501937921.jpg)

Still a picture of the whole
(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/e3def4-1501938971.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=e3def4-1501938971.jpg)

I wish you a nice weekend.
so long, Thomas
Title: Re: German B738NG Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: kurt-olsson on August 05, 2017, 09:12:08 AM
Very nice! Looks like you have the same amount of space as me for building.
The woodshell looks really good.
Title: Re: German B738NG Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: MjTom on January 06, 2018, 09:05:26 AM
Hi,
A little update, what I have tinkered.
"adjustable rudder pedals by means of the crank unit"
there is also a little video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObsJM75zwow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObsJM75zwow)
Thanks again to Karl, who provided me with original pictures and measurements.

Greetings from the slowest cockpit builder ever,
---> Thomas

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/37eaae-1515249457.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=37eaae-1515249457.jpg)

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/1d3067-1515249515.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=1d3067-1515249515.jpg)
Title: Re: German B738NG Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: MjTom on February 03, 2019, 06:56:54 PM
Hi, after a long time a little update:
Now everything is ready for final painting.
All is painted several times with epoxy primer and wet sanded with 1000 grit sandpaper.
As smooth as a baby's bottom  :)
(https://s15.directupload.net/images/190204/temp/hfmesjdy.jpg) (https://www.directupload.net/file/d/5353/hfmesjdy_jpg.htm)
(https://s15.directupload.net/images/190204/temp/82f46af2.jpg) (https://www.directupload.net/file/d/5353/82f46af2_jpg.htm)

The roof panels were pre-sprayed with structure paint.
(https://s15.directupload.net/images/190204/temp/9rbemuzo.jpg) (https://www.directupload.net/file/d/5353/9rbemuzo_jpg.htm)

By the way, I restored the circuit breaker panels.
before:
(https://s15.directupload.net/images/190204/temp/kg49a3nu.jpg) (https://www.directupload.net/file/d/5353/kg49a3nu_jpg.htm)
later:
(https://s15.directupload.net/images/190204/temp/ym823ko8.jpg) (https://www.directupload.net/file/d/5353/ym823ko8_jpg.htm)
(https://s15.directupload.net/images/190204/temp/jolwi92a.jpg) (https://www.directupload.net/file/d/5353/jolwi92a_jpg.htm)

Greetings from the slowest cockpit builder ever,
---> Thomas
Title: Re: German B738NG Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: 757Simulator on February 04, 2019, 03:15:43 AM
Thomas - Greetings. Your project looks very nice. We share a great hobby.

My wife's family is from Coburg which I've visited several times. Love visiting Germany.

Please keep us updated on your project.

M
Title: Re: German B738NG Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: MjTom on February 08, 2019, 08:00:54 AM
my reproduction freshly powder coated:
(https://s16.directupload.net/images/190208/temp/d3icxp58.jpg) (https://www.directupload.net/file/d/5357/d3icxp58_jpg.htm)
(https://s16.directupload.net/images/190208/temp/4y3old9f.jpg) (https://www.directupload.net/file/d/5357/4y3old9f_jpg.htm)
(https://s16.directupload.net/images/190208/temp/ibyssrzn.jpg) (https://www.directupload.net/file/d/5357/ibyssrzn_jpg.htm)

You can see the functionality of my crank unit here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObsJM75zwow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObsJM75zwow)

so long, Thomas
Title: Re: German B738NG Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: MjTom on April 10, 2019, 05:58:58 PM
Today, christmas was again with me and I was allowed to unpack something very big.
I completed the painting works yesterday and after 4 years of construction (mainly winter months) I'm done with the shell.

(https://s16.directupload.net/images/190411/temp/bnma978g.jpg) (https://www.directupload.net/file/d/5419/bnma978g_jpg.htm)
(https://s16.directupload.net/images/190411/temp/ucl9ghyo.jpg) (https://www.directupload.net/file/d/5419/ucl9ghyo_jpg.htm)
(https://s16.directupload.net/images/190411/temp/t9zziynt.jpg) (https://www.directupload.net/file/d/5419/t9zziynt_jpg.htm)
(https://s16.directupload.net/images/190411/temp/a87p69o2.jpg) (https://www.directupload.net/file/d/5419/a87p69o2_jpg.htm)
(https://s16.directupload.net/images/190411/temp/8i6coe9f.jpg) (https://www.directupload.net/file/d/5419/8i6coe9f_jpg.htm)

so long, Thomas
Title: Re: German B738NG Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: Karl737 on April 11, 2019, 09:21:44 PM
Hi Tom,

That is coming along real nice!

I must post some pics of my project. I have been really slack, it’s been years!

Cheers,
Karl
Title: Re: German B738NG Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: Trevor Hale on April 12, 2019, 08:02:51 AM
Wow, that really looks amazing..  Damn you have really put a lot of effort into that.  I Just Love it :)
Title: Re: German B738NG Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: 757Simulator on April 14, 2019, 03:27:19 AM
Thomas,

That is extraordinarily incredible workmanship! Thank you for sharing!

No one will ever know how much time we put into sanding, painting etc. etc.

Michael
Title: Re: German B738NG Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: MjTom on April 15, 2019, 05:34:22 AM
a few gimmicks:
OEM ashtray from a NG, speaker for the 5.1 sound system, pipe for the cockpit air conditioning.
And the "escape rope". If my wife threatens my life, tries to break the cockpit door and forcibly separating me from my hobby.

(https://s16.directupload.net/images/190415/temp/qurrh9vd.jpg) (https://www.directupload.net/file/d/5423/qurrh9vd_jpg.htm)
(https://s16.directupload.net/images/190415/temp/a2fcrq69.jpg) (https://www.directupload.net/file/d/5423/a2fcrq69_jpg.htm)

so long, Thomas
Title: Re: German B738NG Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: Joe Lavery on April 15, 2019, 06:18:48 AM
Thomas,

I've followed your build over the past few years and used many of your images as reference for my own build, which is coming along nicely. But you are one of the masters in wood working.

However I noticed some time back those rather nice ashtrays you showed and searched for them on line, can you tell m where you got them?

Joe.
Title: Re: German B738NG Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: MjTom on April 15, 2019, 10:22:54 AM
However I noticed some time back those rather nice ashtrays you showed and searched for them on line, can you tell m where you got them?

I discovered the ashtrays by accident and begged until I got them.
Unfortunately he only had one pair.
Sorry, for this unsatisfactory answer.
Title: Re: German B738NG Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: Joe Lavery on April 15, 2019, 04:02:26 PM
Thank you anyway Thomas,

It was worth asking, there may have been a shop somewhere selling them.  ;)

All the best
Joe.
Title: Re: German B738NG Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: jackpilot on April 18, 2019, 07:04:18 PM
Joe..tons of them just pick one able to accommodate your Cuban cigar
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xashtrays.TRS0&_nkw=ashtrays&_sacat=26435&LH_TitleDesc=0&_sop=10&_osacat=26435&_odkw=Boeing&LH_TitleDesc=0 (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xashtrays.TRS0&_nkw=ashtrays&_sacat=26435&LH_TitleDesc=0&_sop=10&_osacat=26435&_odkw=Boeing&LH_TitleDesc=0)
Title: Re: German B738NG Homecockpit-Projekt
Post by: Joe Lavery on April 19, 2019, 04:59:21 AM
Once again thank you Jack,

You are the eBay miner, I knew I should have asked you first!!!  :idiot:
 ;D