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Title: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: navymustang on January 01, 2019, 11:01:21 AM
For over 4 years I had such fun building/refurbishing my 737-800 cockpit. But I am moving to a smaller house as I retire without the space to set up my sim. I am letting it go for an incredible price of $55,000. Please note that this is only for the cockpit and does not include the visual screen / projectors or the computer rack system that drives the cockpit. I would let these go also but would need to charge full price since I will be building a much smaller sim and need these items at my new location. The cockpit itself is valued at over $150,000.
The cockpit major components are a refurbished 737-300 simulator built by one of the major well know simulator companies. It was used by the airlines for many years until I obtained it. The cockpit is a complete replica of the instruments and avionics of the 737 and built around the Sismo suite of hardware. It is Prosim based with P3D on the computers (2 computers only). There is no custom software, drivers or scripts required to run the device. The device is on a military grade frame assembly that is on rollers. I have moved it twice using a car carrier toe truck where they lower the bed and winch it up.
It includes  full linked yokes and rudders, fully adjustable rudder fore and aft travel, real IPECO seats (J-rails), a real TQ mechanized by Northern Flight Sim with my custom electronics package, full working toe breaks, and a thousand more items I can tell you about in a PM. The roof assembly is removable so that it can clear a garage door. The unit weighs about 2,000 lbs.
There are a minor set of things that need repair. I estimate repair cost at under $500 or DYI for much lower. The CAPT side includes a real OEM HUD that is only partially functional.
I am willing to trade for either a boat or RV. But please, not a trade for the $55k value but a trade more closely to the appraised value.
I am not willing to part it out, Please PM me for additional pictures and details. Located in Orlando FL.
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: bernard S on January 01, 2019, 11:29:09 AM
floor to ceiling height please
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: navymustang on January 01, 2019, 01:15:59 PM
The platform is 110" x 90"  (width is 110)
Platform is 21" above floor
Total cockpit height is 98" (floor to ceiling, or top of sim that is)
Cockpit height without roof is 74"

My garage workshop has a ceiling height of 117"
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: bernard S on January 04, 2019, 11:07:13 AM
really miffed as it will not fit ... 😣😣😣😣😣
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: dvst8r on January 14, 2019, 10:58:58 AM
Having seen this sim in person a few times,  I can say it is A+
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: navymustang on January 14, 2019, 11:07:28 AM
Thanks to everyone for the positive comments. Now - someone make me an offer  :)
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: navymustang on February 10, 2019, 12:50:48 PM
Getting closer to my moving day and I am dropping the price of the cockpit assembly of this simulator to $49k (or make me an offer). So many features, probably one of the best cockpits you will find. All metal construction with fiberglass shell.
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: navymustang on March 21, 2019, 09:38:45 AM
I'm dropping the price to $48,000 in order to move the sim. Please PM me for additional information or pictures.  Again as a reminder, this price is for the sim shell and contents only. It does not include the visual system or supporting computers.
The CAPT side HUD (or HGS) has been removed and I am installing the normal overhead liner panel.
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: Trevor Hale on March 22, 2019, 09:03:02 PM
Wana Trade for a King Air?  LMFAO....
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: navymustang on March 22, 2019, 09:09:12 PM
Ha - the goal is to empty the hanger, not fill it up again  :)
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: Trevor Hale on March 23, 2019, 11:10:21 AM
Copy That LOL....  Doesn't hurt to try :)
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: navymustang on April 25, 2019, 10:28:01 AM
Fire sale - I need to move so the cockpit (only) is now selling for $40,000.  You simply will never find a deal like this anywhere.

PM me with all offers.
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: jskibo on April 25, 2019, 02:25:50 PM
How much for the MCP?


...just kidding.  Good Luck with the sale!
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: Ed on May 07, 2019, 08:01:22 AM
Worth every penny for 40K. If I wasn't so far into mine I'd jump on that Jim.
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: navymustang on May 24, 2019, 09:33:59 AM
Final sale - dropping the price of the cockpit assembly down to $35k. This sale will only last for one week then I start tearing the sim down and selling the parts. The cockpit must be picked up over the next two weeks. PM me for cockpit details.
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: Mach7 on May 27, 2019, 09:50:10 AM
Hello Navymustang,

I have reached out a couple of places to see if anyone would be interested in your pit. Namely a relative in MLB who is close to your location. Problem is he does not have the dimensions to house such a project.

Have you considered placing it in storage for the time being?

Your sim is such an achievement that I truly believe you will get top dollar if you have the time to wait for the right buyer.

Flight schools, trade a plane, etc etc to name a few.

I will keep my ear ear to the ground and see if I can generate any interest.

I may be in a similar situation when I decide to sell my house, my plan is to include it in the asking price or place it in storage until I can sell it.

all the best

-Jim
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: navymustang on May 27, 2019, 10:12:40 AM
Jim - thanks for the kind comments. It's all about trade offs of storage fees and moving cost.  It will be approximately $500 just to hire the truck to move it along with paying a couple of guys to support the move. Plus I really would like to move on to my next project which will be a sci-fi helicopter (SA-2 Samson from Avatar).  Plus I need to tear it down and folks usually like to see the sim running before purchase, which I will no longer be able to support.
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: blueskydriver on May 27, 2019, 03:06:43 PM
Hey Jim,

I can store and help you sell it for free, just pack it in a large UHaul truck, then Karen and I will come get it. She can drive the biggest trucks already!

Of course I live in Wisconsin and it’ll likely cost $1k for the truck one-way and another $500 for fuel, so there is no real cheap way of keeping your simulator until it’s sold.

Oh, have you also posted it on Craigslist, Barn Stormmers and eBay? I was surprised by this, but I sold 1 cockpit and the fire truck simulator on Craigslist. Thus, try all avenues for selling it... :idiot:

John
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: navymustang on May 27, 2019, 03:19:11 PM
Haven't tried the list yet. Great idea, but wow- who would be building a cockpit and not be a member here also?

Thanks
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: Trevor Hale on May 28, 2019, 11:31:33 AM
Jim, you would be surprised at the number of people that are unaware we (this site) exist.
Trev
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: n4208t on May 28, 2019, 12:21:04 PM
Jim,

If you are unable to keep the sim whole and functional for a prospective buyer, at least do a detailed video of the current setup showcasing the hardware, software, and functionality.  Given your background, assuring them you will help them (virtually) set up the sim will also be helpful to a prospective customer.
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: navymustang on May 28, 2019, 01:31:38 PM
Thanks guys for the replys. I will certainly make a video and post it after FSExpo.

Maybe it will sell at the show.
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: blueskydriver on May 28, 2019, 02:29:56 PM
Hey Jim,

Besides the aforementioned ways of selling it, you could get on YouTube and look for some home cockpit builders' videos, then ask the owners if they'd mind that you post a link back to this thread to help sell it?

Why? Just about every other question in the YouTube comments of such videos are; where can I get one, how much is one and so on? Of course most are just curious viewers; however, it's the few with the means too buy your sim that also watch these videos you want to reach... :idiot:

John
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: 757Simulator on May 29, 2019, 05:04:34 AM
I wish you the best of luck but sadly you'll probably be lucky to redeem 8-10% of your initial investment. Why? Because none of it is certified by the FAA to do anything. The entire apparatus must be certified in its entirety to to make it a worth while investment for schools, etc.

We are a unique breed and the average casual buyer does not possess the knowledge, networking skills, programming, etc. etc. to justify the cost. I hope I'm wrong because you have one helluva setup!!!
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: FredK on May 29, 2019, 02:04:16 PM
Regarding the market for full-size cockpits........

The point made on ruling out a training school as a buyer (regarding certifications) is a valid point.

So that leaves only the "hobbyist".  But the reality is that there are only a few of us who are crazy enough to make this kind of investment in a full-size cockpit, given the constraints of money, time, and space etc.  And for many of those who are interested (like myself) the quest and satisfaction of building the thing themselves is half the attraction.  So that does not leave a very big market.....as we are presently witnessing with Jim's project.

....but this really is nothing new and is no surprise.  We have witnessed it all before.

That said, patience is the key, but it may take a couple of years to find a buyer.

Fred K
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: navymustang on May 30, 2019, 01:25:14 PM
Actually, the sim is completely capable of obtaining a letter of authorization as a level 5 FTD. But as one said, only as it is complete (which I am willing to do). I have canvassed many schools in the Florida area, and the real issue I face is that I am not a recognized builder (e.g., RedBird). My employer found this out the hard way when we bid on several contracts to build sims for flight schools, only to find out that even though our bid was lowest, they wanted a reputable builder with history. The other issue is for me is to warrant the sim, the price sky-rockets since I would have to warehouse many expensive items to maintain some level of up time (can't wait 2 months for Sismo to send me repair parts). And, travel cost to go outside the state for repair visits would break the bank for most flight schools. For most flight schools which I support for maintenance, they have absolutely no money in the annual budget for simulator maintenance. The buy sims for $200,000 and pray they work for many years before breaking down. I whitenessed one flight school here in Florida that was down for jet transition training for months because a simple $5.00 part broke, but getting money to pay for diagnostics and maintenance what not in the budget.

And if most of you have been keeping track of cost, you are right, I am only expecting to get a very small portion of my investment, hence the extremely low price.

I will most like salvage sellable parts in two weeks and sell the remaining for scrap metal pricing.
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: 757Simulator on May 31, 2019, 03:51:00 AM
I will most like salvage sellable parts in two weeks and sell the remaining for scrap metal pricing.

Sadly I think that's your best option. Someday all of us builders will face the same issue and have to cross the same tracks.
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: jskibo on May 31, 2019, 06:30:18 AM
Been there. Had to scrap a whole shell and liners last build when a move left me with no storage or time to find reasonable storage. 

New build moving much slower.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: bernard S on May 31, 2019, 09:28:44 AM
no so  .. if you plan ahead  it's prudent to buy a building to house your sim .. this is why I rant to new builders    where are you going to house it  etc etc ..before you all start doing your nut its actully more cost competitive than you think .. with tax  breaks etc  it's almost free
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: 757Simulator on June 01, 2019, 03:46:56 AM
Huh?  :huh:
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: Joe Lavery on June 01, 2019, 04:29:06 AM
no so  .. if you plan ahead  it's prudent to buy a building to house your sim .. this is why I rant to new builders    where are you going to house it  etc etc ..before you all start doing your nut its actully more cost competitive than you think .. with tax  breaks etc  it's almost free

Bernard you've obviously never dealt with the UK tax, unless you're using the sim for business there are no tax breaks
. If you use it for business then the price of everything goes through the roof.
 :2cw:
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: bernard S on June 01, 2019, 12:18:23 PM
ahhhhhh    okay now the penny drops    thanks ..because when I brought my building to house the sim    I received 100 percent depreciation in first year
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: hillbilly20 on June 01, 2019, 01:06:04 PM
I will most like salvage sellable parts in two weeks and sell the remaining for scrap metal pricing.

Sadly I think that's your best option. Someday all of us builders will face the same issue and have to cross the same tracks.

Hi there

I have just seen a post on the ProSim737 forum from "nisx" asking for a JetMax sim to be located in the US. I thought of your sim - if anything its better than a JetMax setup but I dont know how to put the two of you together. If  you let me have your email address I will be happy to post this in the prosim forum if that helps in any way.

Regards

Alan Hill - UK
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: hillbilly20 on June 11, 2019, 11:38:00 PM
I will most like salvage sellable parts in two weeks and sell the remaining for scrap metal pricing.

Sadly I think that's your best option. Someday all of us builders will face the same issue and have to cross the same tracks.

Hello again,

I am not sure if you still have the sim for sale or if you have begun tearing it down. However, I have seen a post from someone who is looking for a simulator and they are located in Europe. I have told this person to come to the cockpitbuilders site, register and to contact you directly.

However, this person is currently waiting for his request to join to be approved.

If you would like to make contact with this person earlier than the process will allow, then please send me a message and I will be happy to forward it to those concerned.

Just trying to help a fellow simmer.

Kind regards

Alan Hill
Title: Re: Complete 737-800 cockpit - moving sale
Post by: FaustoP on June 12, 2019, 01:26:39 AM
Hello,

Sent you a couple of PM in the past days, did you get them?

Kind regards,

Fausto