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Title: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: kurt-olsson on October 07, 2016, 10:56:51 AM
Updated 2017-07-20

Found all my panels thanks to help from this forum.





Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: mickc on October 07, 2016, 02:56:08 PM
Theres a bleed panel on Ebay at the moment,   
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Boeing-737-Air-Conditioning-Bleed-P5-10-Control-Panel-/282211458347 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Boeing-737-Air-Conditioning-Bleed-P5-10-Control-Panel-/282211458347)
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: 727737Nut on October 08, 2016, 05:31:08 AM
Not a great deal but not bad either.  I'd say go for it.
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: quid246 on October 08, 2016, 06:10:29 AM
Quote from: kurt-olsson on October 07, 2016, 10:56:51 AM
I am looking for these panels:

Window heat panel
Apu panel
Bleed air panel
Flight control panel
Air conditioning panel
Preassurization panel

Here is what you will find out there:
Window Heat - 737CL Only
APU Panel - 737CL Only (I've only known of one NG panel to make it to a simmer)
Bleed Air - 737CL Only (w/one Recirc Fan as used on 600/700) or one out of a Southwest that will have a "GASPER FAN" in place of the L RECIRC FAN
Flight Control Panel - The ones I have sold are 737CL, NG have diff revision numbers but identical in appearance
Air Conditioning Panel - I assume you mean Cabin Temperature, 737CL only, the -800 style (also used on -400) are impossible to find
Pressurization Panel - OEM Digital Ones are as rare as unicorn dung... these are interchangeable 737CL & NG I believe, so more incentive to keep those in serviceable condition
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: 727737Nut on October 08, 2016, 07:20:46 AM
Adam you made laugh so hard! 
Quoterare as unicorn dung
;D ;D

Rob
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: XOrionFE on October 09, 2016, 08:00:09 PM
I have been able to obtain some great unicorn dung but that particularbone I havent ever sniffed either...though I am always keeping my nose to theground...


Lol
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: kurt-olsson on October 11, 2016, 10:17:40 AM
Stay away from the bleed panel boys! :)
Its my bid on it. Like Rob said, not great deal but fair and in europe so cheap shipping and no taxes!

The important thing here is to NOT support swiss-sim who sells broken panels for 3 times the price. I bought my throttle from them and yeah, not a great deal but the throttle was in super-condition and it was not that much overpriced. A year ago.

But now, i see panels without lightplates, missing korrys and switches and still each panel is like 400dollars!

They should be ashamed of them self.

I could really recommend a vendor from Canada. Supernice and the panels i bought was in outstanding condition and about half price of swiss-sims. Dont know if he will have more panels avsil though.
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: kurt-olsson on October 11, 2016, 10:21:46 AM
Faulty
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: kurt-olsson on October 11, 2016, 10:26:34 AM
Quote from: quid246 on October 08, 2016, 06:10:29 AM
Quote from: kurt-olsson on October 07, 2016, 10:56:51 AM
I am looking for these panels:

Window heat panel
Apu panel
Bleed air panel
Flight control panel
Air conditioning panel
Preassurization panel

Here is what you will find out there:
Window Heat - 737CL Only
APU Panel - 737CL Only (I've only known of one NG panel to make it to a simmer)
Bleed Air - 737CL Only (w/one Recirc Fan as used on 600/700) or one out of a Southwest that will have a "GASPER FAN" in place of the L RECIRC FAN
Flight Control Panel - The ones I have sold are 737CL, NG have diff revision numbers but identical in appearance
Air Conditioning Panel - I assume you mean Cabin Temperature, 737CL only, the -800 style (also used on -400) are impossible to find
Pressurization Panel - OEM Digital Ones are as rare as unicorn dung... these are interchangeable 737CL & NG I believe, so more incentive to keep those in serviceable condition

I domt mind to mix and match the CL and -800 stuff. The OEM is so magic i think its more important with quality than plastic replicas. So i will for example get the mic panels from the -300/-200 since they have better price.
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: quid246 on October 11, 2016, 05:16:55 PM
Quote from: kurt-olsson on October 11, 2016, 10:17:40 AMBut now, i see panels without lightplates, missing korrys and switches and still each panel is like 400dollars!

They should be ashamed of them self.

I could really recommend a vendor from Canada. Supernice and the panels i bought was in outstanding condition and about half price of swiss-sims. Dont know if he will have more panels avsil though.

Yes, repair shop rejects those are.  As for the vendor in Canada, that gent might just be a member here. ;)
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: kurt-olsson on October 12, 2016, 04:03:26 AM
Haha so that was you. :)

I am sad i missed out on your bleed air panel. Let me know if you get some new stuff you wanr ro get rid of.

Someone outbid me on my ebay item! :(
Not sure if i want to go higher, the lightpanel is nor oem...
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: 737NGer on October 14, 2016, 12:28:54 AM
Does anyone know the p/n for the pressurisation panel?
Title: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: Ridgenj on October 14, 2016, 01:10:54 AM
I agree with Peter and the vendor is an active participant in this forum.
Concerning the panels from Arizona, I am using the hardware with FDS panels.
Otherwise it would take  me an eternity to get them up and running.
Cheers
Luis


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Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: 737NGer on June 15, 2017, 10:55:31 AM
Quote from: kurt-olsson on October 07, 2016, 10:56:51 AM
Updated 2017-04-18

I am looking for these panels:

Window heat panel
Apu panel

NG or CL is the first question?

How much are you willing to spend on a single panel?

And finally...what "degree of functionality" are you looking for i.e. Functional logic boards? Or do you scrap everything inside and just use the front assembly (lightplate, Korrys and switches) only?

Title: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: Ridgenj on June 15, 2017, 04:48:07 PM
If you find NG panels from a 737-NG and not from a 737 600, let me know.
CL 500 is the most common ones.
Cheers
Luis


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Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: 737NGer on June 15, 2017, 05:48:59 PM
Quote from: Ridgenj on June 15, 2017, 04:48:07 PM
If you find NG panels from a 737-NG and not from a 737 600, let me know.
CL 500 is the most common ones.
Cheers
Luis


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You mean not from a -500? -600 is still NG.

An NG cockpit panel from a -600 is identical to that used on the -700, 800 and 900. This applies to ALL panels except for:
Air Conditioning Panel (the one with the RECIRC FAN and PACK switches)
Cabin Temperature Panel
Door Warning Annunciator Panel

Any special requests?

What is your average budget for a single panel? Your budget determines the condition of the panel.

Title: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: Ridgenj on June 17, 2017, 06:37:26 AM
My point is that several NG's panels being offered are coming from the 600. I personally use FDS panels and slaughter the OEMs for the hardware. Some are easy to convert but they remain CL panels.
For example United Airlines uses for the AC panel in the NG the ones you find in the 600.



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Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: 737NGer on June 17, 2017, 06:55:12 AM
If you gut the panels for hardware then I'd say unserviceable panels are best (if the reason of unserviceability isn't because of the annunciators, lightplate or switches.)

Not sure what you have against -600 parts - these are identical to the ones on the -800 (part numbers used on the -600 are the same ones used on the -800. No airline cares about what type of NG the part came from - chances are a part on an flying -800 could have been on a retired -600 )

It'll be very hard to find parts not from a -600. Most parts come from the -600, so it's unlikely that I'll be able to find anything like that.
Title: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: Ridgenj on June 17, 2017, 09:28:55 AM
Sorry if I generated  the impression that I don't  like the 736. Most of my OEM comes from CL or 600. I wanted to use it for an  x-plane Sim but now got distracted with P3D4 and here my Sim is an FDS. My TQ is a modified 500 to NG and I love it.
One fundamental issue I have with all OEM panels is that I am totally unable to cut any of the so nicely finished wirings. I just sit there and watch the masterpieces.
Most of my OEM's come from Nick at APHS and from Arizona.
I have a HUD, CDU's IRS and Trim panels waiting to be converted.
Have a nice weekend.
Cheers
Luis


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Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: 737NGer on June 17, 2017, 09:36:19 AM
Okay...Now I understand.

If you don't want to gut all the internal wiring do what I do (which is incorporate all the internal logic of the panels into the interface.)

What NG panels do you have? :)

And what panels would you be interested in? I might be able to help you source a few panels.

Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: jackpilot on June 17, 2017, 01:44:09 PM
Speaking of OEM panels look what haunts EBay theses days:

[ebay]263041381286[/ebay]

Better now for the same stuff:

[ebay]282530878040[/ebay]

3 switches and a few stickers! No rocket science to interface
Got exactly the same one + stall warning with the nice Otto push switches for a (2 digit) fraction of those ridiculous prices a while ago.

(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2Fxq90%2F923%2Fa5EkAN.jpg&hash=4523a3e59f75fbe8cac8e99c956aff0156475f61)

Even worse:
[ebay]282517983671[/ebay]

[ebay]322547703919[/ebay]


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Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: Joe Lavery on June 17, 2017, 03:03:37 PM
Jack, sorry to deviate from the topic, but as the go to guy for real panels, can you tell me how to remove Dzus fasteners from a real panel?

I have a pair of Grimes radio panels that I want to fit but I can't remove the Dzus fasteners.
I've tried a small drift from the back but I'm afraid of damaging or distorting the frame 

Any thoughts?

Joe.
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: 737NGer on June 17, 2017, 03:05:06 PM
Well...for $375 for a Flight Recorder Panel I'd expect AR condition with a 30 day warranty (not "for parts or not working") ..AND fresh from an NG.
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: jackpilot on June 17, 2017, 07:06:02 PM
Quote from: Joe Lavery on June 17, 2017, 03:03:37 PM
Jack, sorry to deviate from the topic, but as the go to guy for real panels, can you tell me how to remove Dzus fasteners from a real panel?

Joe.

Piece of cake
Remove the panel (plastic) from the backer, to avoid cracking it
Sit the backer on 2 small wood blocks, hold another wood block on (Touching) the small part of the dzus and bang firmly with a hammer (one shot is usually enough to pop it out).
No harm even to the dzus itself
(click on to enlarge)
(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2Fxq90%2F924%2FnhFuIF.jpg&hash=3f21387238ef0510df3a90069c34f3e258f82cab)
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: willow on June 18, 2017, 03:23:14 AM
Greetings

I remove DZUS fasteners exactly the same way :)

Works like a charm,   WilloW
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: jackpilot on June 18, 2017, 04:09:56 AM
Removing the dzus is a must if you want to refinish the panel correctly.
You get a flat surface for sanding and painting and you also may redo the dzus itself for a neat reinstall. (see my flight recorder panels picture above)
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: Joe Lavery on June 18, 2017, 04:30:48 AM
Thanks Jack/Willow excellent information as usual... :) :)

The panel inteslf is quite clean, although it's a black set I bought. I would be quite happy to paint them but I wouldn't want to try and engrave or refil the engraving with white paint. Not to mention after filling it with spray paint beforehand. How do you huts approach this problem?

Joe.
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: jackpilot on June 18, 2017, 07:27:21 AM
A tiny strip of masking tape on the inscriptions.
Often done on real airplanes.
When you remove it you get this (on Off of the toggles)
(Click to enlarge)
(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc29%2Fjackpilot%2F20%2520mars%252010%2520068_zpsp8strpwl.jpg&hash=6eb9818140f74f7fa0519acd879623b0f43566fb)

Or this from a 747 Tan panel
(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc29%2Fjackpilot%2FPhotoNIKON007_zpsde5e8fb9.jpg&hash=334114e746733070a755a0ec2b04e67afdae938f)

Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: Joe Lavery on June 19, 2017, 04:52:38 PM
Thanks again Jack, very neat solution, in fact it may look rather good considering that the panels are black.

By the way I meant to say Guys in the last post, not sure where huts came from  :-[

Joe.
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: kurt-olsson on June 21, 2017, 02:57:36 AM
Quote from: 737NGer on June 15, 2017, 10:55:31 AM
Quote from: kurt-olsson on October 07, 2016, 10:56:51 AM
Updated 2017-04-18

I am looking for these panels:

Window heat panel
Apu panel

NG or CL is the first question?

How much are you willing to spend on a single panel?

And finally...what "degree of functionality" are you looking for i.e. Functional logic boards? Or do you scrap everything inside and just use the front assembly (lightplate, Korrys and switches) only?


Hi!

The important thing is that the backlight and switches and korrys are working. Does not have to be in mint condition. I Gut everything out and create my own BOB that i connect in the back of the panel.

I think 250$ / panel is fair price if good condition.
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: jackpilot on June 21, 2017, 03:48:57 AM
Backlight, korrys and switches work 99% of the time, because they are virtually indestructible with aerospace standard.
IMHO there is no "fair" value as the parts available have NO commercial value and  good, at best, for recycling. Most yellow tags date back 10 -20 years and cannot be considered serviceable, hence no value.
As often said, the only value is what a crazy builder is ready to pay for.  (me included ..lol)

My2¢
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: 737NGer on June 21, 2017, 06:59:56 AM
$250 for NG...not impossible but hard to get any 'big' panels for. $500 should be you target price for the big panels.

But if parts are bought in batches the price tag might go down to around that price.

I'll keep an eye out for unserviceable parts.
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: kurt-olsson on July 20, 2017, 01:06:45 PM
Finally got the apu gen panel, thanks to a tip from the forum.
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: jackpilot on July 20, 2017, 01:16:18 PM
[ebay]263097128019[/ebay]
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: kurt-olsson on July 21, 2017, 12:14:04 AM
Thanks Jack, allteady have that one but man... that price... grab it!!!
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: fordgt40 on July 21, 2017, 12:20:22 AM
Sorry, but that is way overpriced from a vendor who is notorious for it.
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: jackpilot on July 21, 2017, 04:37:11 AM
They tend to have more affordable  offerings ($) though since a while
At least their parts are clean most of the time.

Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: kurt-olsson on July 21, 2017, 05:41:54 AM
Some panels are expensive and some dont. Just bought the apu/gen panel from them for 200$, looks to be in awesome shape.
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: mickc on July 22, 2017, 04:47:01 PM
I consider this guy to be the current king of ridiculous Ebay prices at the moment  :o

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=&_ssn=thejetsim&_sop=16 (https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=&_ssn=thejetsim&_sop=16)
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: bernard S on July 22, 2017, 05:58:00 PM
same seller with different hat   
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: Joe Lavery on July 23, 2017, 06:59:14 AM
Let's hope there's no one in this community who pays the price, or perhaps we all should make him equallly ridiculouse offers.
I think I'll bid him $5 for his $315 pilot's phone, that's all it's worth.... ;D ;D

:2cw:
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: 737NGer on July 23, 2017, 08:05:08 AM
Quote from: Joe Lavery on July 23, 2017, 06:59:14 AM
Let's hope there's no one in this community who pays the price, or perhaps we all should make him equallly ridiculouse offers.
I think I'll bid him $5 for his $315 pilot's phone, that's all it's worth.... ;D ;D

:2cw:

$315...what is it the new iPhone 8?

This seller is quite new to the market, he came up just a few months ago - maybe hes just pushing his luck to see what's the biggest buck he could make out of each panel. Pricing is "Okay" for SV parts, but way out of range in regards to the retired parts market.
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: bernard S on July 23, 2017, 10:12:11 AM
okay i will bite ????  who owns the parts him or UAM if you going to sell items   take the ipeco seats as an example ... dont photograph them next to UAMs display 747   otherwise people like myself call foul   
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: Garys on July 23, 2017, 11:31:44 AM
When looking more closely at  the old UAM display cockpit interior you will notice that they are parting it out. That is where most of the 747 parts are coming from. In the latest pics of the MIP you can see it the background in one of the shots and its basically been taken back to the shell.

I believe the Jetsim is a partnership between Tom Anderson who was a member here and an Australian builder Joe. Obviously Tom still has close ties to UAM which is why they are able to obtain all these parts, but is now more of a middle man which is why we are still seeing the parts located in tupelo yet the prices being much higher for items than what we were able to buy them from him when dealing directly at UAM in the past. (Much the same as Jim Doyle of Desert Air Spares)

This is only my observation. I have no insider information so can be far from what the reality of the business relationship is. I did see that they sold recently a Airbus cockpit shell for $150 while others are wanting thousands for the same thing so its very hit and miss, but I have found them to be responsive to offers.

This post wasnt directed directly at you Bernard but more of a summary of how I see them.

Cheers
Gary
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: Goodenough on July 23, 2017, 12:28:39 PM
I have purchased items on Ebay from the JETSIM. Like anything if you submit a fair price they will either accept it or decline offer. I know Tom is no longer there and has moved on. UAM is a good seller of OEM parts and I recommend them if you're looking to add parts for your sim.
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: bernard S on July 23, 2017, 01:16:25 PM
now that makes sence
.thanks
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: kurt-olsson on July 24, 2017, 02:23:31 AM
When you bought stuff from universalassetsmanagement, where they quick to ship?
I bought it friday but the seller has not shipped it yet. Most ship rightaway...
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: Garys on July 24, 2017, 02:52:53 AM
My last purchase took a few days for them to ship.
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: kurt-olsson on July 24, 2017, 10:23:25 AM
Thanks Gary, good to know.
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: B747-400 on July 24, 2017, 03:33:49 PM
Hi Kurt,

same here! They need a few days because of crating parts, paperworks for custom duty etc.
No problems with UAM!

Cheers
Hans

PS: Gothenburg is a great city - have been there some years ago  8)
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: jackpilot on July 24, 2017, 04:27:45 PM
Just for the sake of it
Same panel:
[ebay]263085729632[/ebay]

$80

[ebay]253061983080[/ebay]

$175

[ebay]231965966838[/ebay]

$250
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: 737NGer on July 24, 2017, 04:49:55 PM
This looks like an NG to me:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Retired-BOEING-737-Cockpit-Voice-Recorder-Microphone-Monitor-Panel-/272718239931 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Retired-BOEING-737-Cockpit-Voice-Recorder-Microphone-Monitor-Panel-/272718239931)
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: kurt-olsson on July 25, 2017, 03:19:43 AM
Haha Jack, you must be the master of ebay finding oem! :)

I am looking for that panel aswell. Normal case i would by that 80$ asap but reality is i have to build up some cashflow after i bought the seats...
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: jackpilot on July 25, 2017, 04:36:39 AM
Quote from: 737NGer on July 24, 2017, 04:49:55 PM
This looks like an NG to me:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Retired-BOEING-737-Cockpit-Voice-Recorder-Microphone-Monitor-Panel-/272718239931 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Retired-BOEING-737-Cockpit-Voice-Recorder-Microphone-Monitor-Panel-/272718239931)


Yes it is, but why pay that horrendous price when you can have this super clean overhauled unit by Collins
[ebay]282557527911[/ebay]

Or the usual one with the dial which is also quite common  on NGs
[ebay]321844687807[/ebay]

And if you really want to waste your money go for this... :laugh:
[ebay]190836286402[/ebay]

A simple 5v feed tamed down with a resistor allows the little needle to deviate when the test button is pushed. Have that on mine and it makes a nice checklist item.
(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F800x600q90%2F922%2F3HwusC.jpg&hash=6372fddda70aef2fb4b8aaba0e9b8a76a0c0c7ad)
:D
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: 737NGer on July 31, 2017, 01:44:45 PM
What on earth happened to this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BOEING-737CL-Fuel-System-Panel-P5-2-UNTESTED-4-/282593691823?hash=item41cbe588af:g:vkQAAOSwJ4hY9NvI&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/BOEING-737CL-Fuel-System-Panel-P5-2-UNTESTED-4-/282593691823?hash=item41cbe588af:g:vkQAAOSwJ4hY9NvI&vxp=mtr)
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: jackpilot on July 31, 2017, 02:33:13 PM
probably left where it belongs....I can hardly imagine that an airline can accept such abuse!
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: Garys on October 02, 2017, 12:15:10 PM
Quote from: mickc on July 22, 2017, 04:47:01 PM
I consider this guy to be the current king of ridiculous Ebay prices at the moment  :o

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=&_ssn=thejetsim&_sop=16 (https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=&_ssn=thejetsim&_sop=16)

I know I replied to this topic earlier, but my opinion of this seller is changing for the worse. His recent offerings of 747 panels is ridiculous. As an example the fuel panel can be bought for $200. Even the concord alliance who I consider high priced wants $600 for this panel. The last one UAM sold on ebay also had a buy it now price of $200. He has included a few cannon plugs that a supplier sell for $60ea when they have them in stock and all of a sudden this panel is worth well over $1000. All of the panels he has for sale can be bought for less than $400ea
Tottally out to lunch.

Any 747 builders considering buying these... don't fall for it... your getting ripped off big time. (Matt Sheils post -   http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=1499.msg14040#msg14040 (http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=1499.msg14040#msg14040))

Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: Bob Reed on October 02, 2017, 02:51:54 PM
Gary, I have tried to have that exact same discussion with builders in the past and they just don't get it. They keep paying ridiculous prices for junk which raises the price on this stuff. Silly really...
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: jackpilot on October 03, 2017, 04:29:33 AM
Not really, Bob.
Those items do not move or sell at a way lower offered price.
747-400 panels are starting to show up and prices will crash as the sim market for these parts is not big enough to absorb the offering.
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: Bob Reed on October 03, 2017, 04:35:04 AM
Quote from: jackpilot on October 03, 2017, 04:29:33 AM
Not really, Bob.
Those items do not move or sell at a way lower offered price.
747-400 panels are starting to show up and prices will crash as the sim market for these parts is not big enough to absorb the offering.

Yes, really Jack. If no one paid the silly prices these places ask, they would not sell and what happens when there is supply and no demand? Look how you buy things. You are a perfect example of one who refuses to pay silly prices.... If all the sim folks shop and bought like you do, we would not even be having this discussion.  :)
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: Joe Lavery on October 03, 2017, 04:50:59 AM
I agree Bob - Jack,

If you think about it 10 years ago you could have bought a scrap 737TQ for about £200 - 300, which was the scrap value of the aluminium.
And then the Home cockpit brigade started bidding silly money for them, so suddenly the price rocketed. We only have ourselves to blame, well other than Jack, who has more sense ...  8)

Joe.
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: ifeliciano on October 03, 2017, 10:53:03 AM
Quote from: Bob Reed on October 02, 2017, 02:51:54 PM
Gary, I have tried to have that exact same discussion with builders in the past and they just don't get it. They keep paying ridiculous prices for junk which raises the price on this stuff. Silly really...


People do anything, even get screwed, for realism. I can hear my Dad quoting Voltaire, "you know, Ivan... Common sense is not that common"
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: jackpilot on October 03, 2017, 11:25:04 AM
The key is...patience and a daily trawl on EBay
And the right part at a right price will show eventually.

I was looking for that swiss aero  timer:

(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F800x600q90%2F923%2FP6GI55.jpg&hash=787b3d9b23cb022edf6cfe19b38d269eda44fa2e)

Had to wait for months (maybe  years) but UAM had one and I got a "fair" price. (well over a hundred)

One week later another one appeared...and went for $40.. ???
None since then.

:D
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: 737NGer on October 04, 2017, 02:28:39 AM
Quote from: Garys on October 02, 2017, 12:15:10 PM
Quote from: mickc on July 22, 2017, 04:47:01 PM
I consider this guy to be the current king of ridiculous Ebay prices at the moment  :o

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=&_ssn=thejetsim&_sop=16 (https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=&_ssn=thejetsim&_sop=16)

I know I replied to this topic earlier, but my opinion of this seller is changing for the worse. His recent offerings of 747 panels is ridiculous. As an example the fuel panel can be bought for $200. Even the concord alliance who I consider high priced wants $600 for this panel. The last one UAM sold on ebay also had a buy it now price of $200. He has included a few cannon plugs that a supplier sell for $60ea when they have them in stock and all of a sudden this panel is worth well over $1000. All of the panels he has for sale can be bought for less than $400ea
Tottally out to lunch.

Any 747 builders considering buying these... don't fall for it... your getting ripped off big time. (Matt Sheils post -   http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=1499.msg14040#msg14040 (http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=1499.msg14040#msg14040))

The only thing that justifies the high price is if he is selling in ARC/GR or SV.

ARC/GR - As Removed Condition / Guarnteed Repairable. Basically an SV part with a few minor faults and no warranty (or a warranty for a short time period) from the cert shop.

But as I can see, he lists his stuff as "For Parts or Not working," in the avaition world bluntly BER/US (Beyond Economic Repair/Unservicable.)

Some vendors don't even give unserviceable stuff a condition - they just say NA.

Price not justified if this is the case, BUT:

If you notice, some of these are photographed in the cockpit - he probably bought them literally freshly As Removed from the plane. If he sends them to the cert shop, and gurantees the parts repairable AND sells for te same price - then the price might have been justified.


Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: Buster99 on October 04, 2017, 04:27:29 AM
I absolutely agree with all of the above.

But let's assume there are 1000 serious builders that want original parts, availability of original parts may be very limited. Once you need (want) a certain part and have waited long enough a ridiculous price suddenly becomes acceptable.
Personally I have waited for a trim piece for over 4 years and paid way too much, but now I am happy to finally have it.

This will indeed drive prices up but then it is not like there is an abundance of parts out there... European customers have an even harder time to get Boeing parts.

Great overhead timer! That's another one still on my want to get list  :)

Best Regards,
Marc
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: mickc on October 04, 2017, 04:40:24 AM
Quote from: Buster99 on October 04, 2017, 04:27:29 AM
European customers have an even harder time to get Boeing parts.

Try living in Australia  :o :o
Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: Garys on October 04, 2017, 05:22:37 AM
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Title: Re: 737 OEM Panels
Post by: Garys on October 04, 2017, 05:25:10 AM
Quote from: 737NGer on October 04, 2017, 02:28:39 AM
Quote from: Garys on October 02, 2017, 12:15:10 PM
Quote from: mickc on July 22, 2017, 04:47:01 PM
I consider this guy to be the current king of ridiculous Ebay prices at the moment  :o

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=&_ssn=thejetsim&_sop=16 (https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=&_ssn=thejetsim&_sop=16)

I know I replied to this topic earlier, but my opinion of this seller is changing for the worse. His recent offerings of 747 panels is ridiculous. As an example the fuel panel can be bought for $200. Even the concord alliance who I consider high priced wants $600 for this panel. The last one UAM sold on ebay also had a buy it now price of $200. He has included a few cannon plugs that a supplier sell for $60ea when they have them in stock and all of a sudden this panel is worth well over $1000. All of the panels he has for sale can be bought for less than $400ea
Tottally out to lunch.

Any 747 builders considering buying these... don't fall for it... your getting ripped off big time. (Matt Sheils post -   http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=1499.msg14040#msg14040 (http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=1499.msg14040#msg14040))

The only thing that justifies the high price is if he is selling in ARC/GR or SV.

ARC/GR - As Removed Condition / Guarnteed Repairable. Basically an SV part with a few minor faults and no warranty (or a warranty for a short time period) from the cert shop.

But as I can see, he lists his stuff as "For Parts or Not working," in the avaition world bluntly BER/US (Beyond Economic Repair/Unservicable.)

Some vendors don't even give unserviceable stuff a condition - they just say NA.

Price not justified if this is the case, BUT:

If you notice, some of these are photographed in the cockpit - he probably bought them literally freshly As Removed from the plane. If he sends them to the cert shop, and gurantees the parts repairable AND sells for te same price - then the price might have been justified.

Your forgetting though that these have already been sold by the vendor to the Jetsim. There is no overhaul or serviceable shop involved here and never will be. The Jetsim is just a middle man akin to your neighbourhood used car lot targeting US the simbuilder. Only when you see the big picture do you see how obsurd the mark up of these panels are and the reason for my posting to any perspective 747  simbuilder.

In the future this may very well change and these prices will be justified again but right now full airline fleets have been put to the desert with many more coming.

As of 4th quarter 2017,  its just exploitative