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Title: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on November 15, 2009, 06:17:14 PM
At long last (and with the arrival of the ABU 11/A  clock) I have had a chance to cut the last of the instrument cutouts and finish off the panel.

I can tell you, as the hours built and the number of holes increased, I became more nervous that I would *&&^^ something up on the next hole and ruin the panel! But we came through unscathed in the end.

Here is the raw panel ready for painting:

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The spray painting went OK, but spray cans are not as reliable as they could be so the finish is not perfect..but good enough for a rushed wartime factory job I think.

I let it dry for twenty four hours and then fitted all the instruments, switches and additions.

I am very pleased with the results but unfortunately the nightime photos with a flash wash out the panel and don't really do it justice. I'll try to get some better ones up soon.


Next I will finish fitting the controls to the shell and build the seat over the next couple of weeks. Not a bad weekend's work!!


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I will take some more photos in daylight, the flash really does not do justice to the panel!!
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on November 15, 2009, 10:15:00 PM
Ok,

Couldn't leave it alone, some more progress in a short time tonight.


The updated photos in better light conditions:

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The Trim unit I built (with a real P51 Rudder Trim and Gwyn's fabricated Trim wheel), the two switches at the bottom are for Camera Power and Pitot Heat. The "tracks" are to run the chains back from the Elevator Trim wheel to a dummy set of push/pull rods.

Next to it is Gwyn's shameless attempt at making me look REALLY bad..his beautiful throttle Unit!

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"The Office"

The real thing:

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The sim so far

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My favourite shot of the whole thing so far...the view from the throne:

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I am actually starting to think I may finish this......



Darryl

Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Boeing Skunk Works on November 15, 2009, 11:45:13 PM
Boy that sure has come a long way. It looks great Darryl!

Keep the photos coming.
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Trevor Hale on November 16, 2009, 12:18:32 AM
Man I agree with Mike,  Looks amazing..  Nice work.  I bet she is fun to fly that's for sure..  I can just smell the fuel and the fumes in the cockpit already.

Trev
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Bob Reed on November 16, 2009, 03:29:45 AM
That looks great Darryl... The rest of your pots are on thier way!!
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on November 16, 2009, 03:37:04 AM
Cheers guys, and thank Bob, I should have the seat finished by the time they get here..she will be flyable then.
Mike, yes I'm at one of those stages when a little bit seems to result in a large improvement...only fair payment for the many hours of work that go into some things without ANY visible result!

Trevor..wife went ixne on the lpetroe unfortunately..I thought the smell of petrol and oil (which the Spitfire is famous for) would add that certain je ne sai quoi to the pit room......women eh????!!!!!......

01:30 here and just finished test flying the instruments, making sure that nothing got knocked out of whack putting them in the panel..seems fine. It DOES look good to have them all functioning and in the main IP at last!!.


thanks all


Darryl
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Trevor Hale on November 16, 2009, 03:56:26 AM
Hilarious Darryl..  I can't imagine why she wouldn't have gone for that..  :huh: LOL.  None the less I am sure you can manage without..  Besides..Maybe a little WD40 here and there "Sprayed generously on the hinges or seat rails" will be enough.. LOL

Thanks for sharing.

Trev
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: PaulEMB on November 16, 2009, 11:24:14 AM
Really nice to see it coming together, Darryl.

Makes me envious of the whole idea of a Spitfire sim, and I think the level of realism in your project is awesome - cant wait to see some video footage of you first dogfight!

Good Luck,

Paul
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: when acting as a wave on November 16, 2009, 11:30:05 AM
Wow. Nice work. And I love the natural light setting in the last batch of photographs too. This shot here is especially beautiful ...

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Dean.
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on November 16, 2009, 11:54:09 AM
Thanks guys,

Dean, yes, my wife advised me to take the photos just on sundown. It worked well although I should have got a little closer for some of them. The flash still activated so i stood back a good way and used a 200mm lens. Photography is not my thing unfortunately, I'll see if I can get her to take some for me. The shot you picked is my favourite too!!

Trevor, WD40, brilliant and totally unable to be argued with...after all, a man has to lubricate!!  Um, well, you know what I mean ;)

Paul, thanks mate, I am aiming to have it pretty close. I havea fortune worth of real bits that I can't even put in until nearly finished..radio control, Gunsight bulbs, morse Key, etc. They should really finish it off I think.

The aim is to have it feel like sitting in a real Spitfire. I haven't but have stood on the wing and photographed a cockpit extensively so I am hoping I can make it all work!



regards

Darryl
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Trevor Hale on November 16, 2009, 12:03:43 PM
Quote from: DarrylH on November 16, 2009, 11:54:09 AM
totally unable to be argued with...after all, a man has to lubricate!! 

:rock: LMFAO  Hilarious....
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on November 16, 2009, 12:10:50 PM
Sorry...you got me before my morning coffee....NEVER a good time!!! :)


I see you mention "Bad Canadian Jokes" on another thread..I only know 2.


1. A baby seal walks into a club...


2. Alanis Morrisette


D
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Trevor Hale on November 16, 2009, 01:49:21 PM
 :idiot:   ROFL
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Boeing Skunk Works on November 16, 2009, 02:37:22 PM
I know what you mean. I about peed my pants the first time I fired up the instrument panel for the first time and actually flew it with the MIP. Same thing nearly happened again when I finally got my engine stack running.

And yeah, from what I remember from many years ago, it does feel like sitting in a real 727.  :idiot:
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Aerosim Solutions on November 18, 2009, 04:56:53 PM
Can't wait for my first ride in a few weeks Darryl, I have two weeks leave starting Dec 21!!!

It's official - "Aerosim Solutions" is a registered Australian business!

Gwyn
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on November 21, 2009, 11:41:23 PM
Hi guys,

I spent Saturday doing all the cockpit placards and panel labels with my laser cutting mate!!

He did a first class job and the panel is now fully finished and looks great.
Pictures soon,


congrats on Aerosim Gwyn, and looking forward to flying with you over Christmas maybe??

BSW, yep very happy, adult diappers on order.....

Darryl
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Bob Reed on November 22, 2009, 03:49:06 AM
Hey Darryl, any news on the pots? have they arrived to Gwyn yet? Can't wait to see the pics!
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on November 22, 2009, 09:24:56 AM
Bob,

haven't heard from Gwyn to that effect yet, hopefully not too far away.


Darryl
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Boeing Skunk Works on November 22, 2009, 10:15:14 AM
Gwyn, are getting any flying in at all anymore?

I know you have business stacked to the rafters.
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Bob Reed on November 22, 2009, 11:11:36 AM
Quote from: Boeing Skunk Works on November 22, 2009, 10:15:14 AM
Gwyn, are getting any flying in at all anymore?

I know you have business stacked to the rafters.

Last I heard he was moving to a better location for the sim. Where he was the sim was in storage.
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Aerosim Solutions on December 18, 2009, 12:24:40 PM
Hi guys, I just love seeing some of my handywork on display! Great pics Darryl, keep em coming.
Bob - the pots arrived and Darryl now has them so the throttle quad will be alive in the Spitfire shortly.
Mike - I have made small progress on my sim, the other night we went around to my new place and reassemble the major pieces so it is back together again in it's own room. The room is perfect and it's half the reason I chose that house! My new home is still being rented to the people who sold it to me, they move to the UK on February the 10th and I will be in like Flynn to get the sim going. My 'tenants' have been great in allowing me in to work on the sim and I'm going around to mount the projector next week. The sim is behind a fibro stud wall and I just have to cut out a big rectangle to make a screen, I should have about 4m (12'6") projection distance which should give me a bigger picture than before. I'll fire up the projector, project the biggest image possible on the wall then mark it out for cutting. I have bought a new 500thread count bed sheet for the screen, these work great for rear projection.
I'm still busy with the scarebus throttles and Darryl's Spitfire amongst other things and I just spent the morning setting up my brand new lathe, it's fantastic, I'll post pics soon.

All the best to you all,

Gwyn
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Bob Reed on January 13, 2010, 08:29:41 AM
Soooo........ Whats going on here? Is there any news? Pics or videos of it in action? Come on we want to know!!! LOL :D :idiot:
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Aerosim Solutions on January 23, 2010, 04:30:17 AM
Darryl's gone walkies! He's gone to New Guinea to do the Kokoda trail for the second time. Aparantly there isn't a McDonalds store on it so I'm not going!!!

Gwyn
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Bob Reed on January 23, 2010, 04:46:02 AM
Oh!! There are lots of crashed WWII aircraft in those jungles. I have read stories on many and know of at least 8 AC in the States that came from there.
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: warvet on January 23, 2010, 02:03:10 PM
Hey Gents,
Congrats Gwyn and heres a page y'all might like to have a boo at :)   HERE (http://hitlernews.cloudworth.com/crashes-planes-pilots.php)

Hope everyone is well and talk soon.
Tim
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on January 26, 2010, 04:14:37 PM
Hi guys, thnaks for the interest.

Despite PNG's best efforts (escaped murderers and bank robbers, an exploding bus, a 14,500ft flight wthout pressurisation or oxygen, a badly sprained ankle the last day, a tropical ulcer, nearly losing one guy ovr a waterfall, badly swollen rivers washing away most of the "bridges" and a BIG thanks to Qantas for losing my pack and making me walk the track with a bit of scrounged gear), I have made it back. My fifth and hopefully last crossing. This one was organised at very short notice and my old bones really objected to the frantic training and hard trek. I elected to carry a day pack this time instead of my full pack. Much more sensible!! Inthe eighteen months since I did my double crossing (from Kokoda top Owers, then turned around and went back out to Kokoda) I have aged terribly and the dysentery I had last time is still affecting me in some ways...this time was not easy at all....mind you, it never is!

Anyway,  more flight sim updates to come after tthis weekend,



Darryl
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on March 01, 2010, 02:00:14 AM
Well, a long while between posts..a lot of jungle, some bad luck, some carelessness and some challenges in between.....but I made it here at last.
This weekend has been spent almost entirely on the Spitfire, so some fair progress made. The upper structure (save for the door) is complete. The cockpit coaming was a terror but didn't finish up too bad I think.  I also put all the labels on the main panel and temp fitted the gun sight.
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I  also finally got the compass finished and while it is not functional, it does look pretty good and unless I put the real one beside it, it is hard to tell the difference.
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The position behind the stick and well forward makes it quite hard to see and the parallax error is huge so navigation on the compass alone must have been a nightmare.

Last of all I did up a couple of templates for the skin. I am still undecided on material but the plastic I used for the templates is pretty durable and if glued onto the formers looks like it would be quite strong. It is not too bad to work with and I may just get some more, cut better pieces and use it as the final skin. I will have to test paint some to see how well it takes.  The structure may need a couple of extra  longerons if I go that route, as the monocoque effect is not great with the plastic skin.
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Lastly, before I went away, I almost finished the seat
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Once the skin is done there will only be  the wiring and  some detailing to do in the pit itself and the computer box and monitor tray to build (plus rearrange my whole office to cut down the desk and fit the pit in......



More soon with any luck.   



Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Aerosim Solutions on March 01, 2010, 03:53:41 AM
It's looking great Darryl, can't wait for a ride. I'll bring eight Browning machine guns down with me and a couple of drums of glycol!!!

Gwyn
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: jackpilot on March 01, 2010, 05:43:55 AM
Great...really impressive.
What about skinning it with 1mm aluminum sheet screwed on the ribs to mimic rivets ??
How do you actuate your gauges?
Jack
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Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Bob Reed on March 01, 2010, 06:15:38 AM
Darryl....WOW!!! Have you flown it yet? That's what I want to know. Looks impressive. Can you get us a couple of outside shots of it? Would love to see what the outside of it looks like. Very nice work.
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Trevor Hale on March 01, 2010, 04:51:26 PM
I am in awe..  Great shots, I cant wait to see a video of it in action. 

Trev
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on March 01, 2010, 05:56:49 PM
Thanks guys!


This is the fun bit where all the problems start to crop up…like HOW do I get in and out without the windscreen/mirror frame which is usually used for handhold? How do I skin the thing but still leave access for maintenance?  How do I build a solid monitor tray with plenty of support for three monitors but still leave the cockpit easily “breakable” into two parts? And a few others.

Gwyn,  no worries, as soon as she is ready to fly I will call you. (any progress on the fuel selector and de-icing taps?) Hope you got the A340 throttle away OK?


I have all the gear now that I am buying but do still keep an eye on the auctions, so thanks for that Jack. The gauges are Flight Illusions and interface through their software and FSUPIC. They took me an age to calibrate, not because of the software but because I had to fudge the figures to make the gauges perform more realistically than the Spitfire model I have.


Bob, no, the problem is one of logistics. The computer is a large Thermaltake body with three monitors, which is hell to move around and the pit is in the garage so I really need to pretty much complete the skinning and painting before she migrates inside. The small detail work and wiring can be done after.   

Thanks Trevor, it is a fun project and is really starting to come together now. Hopefully this week I will do some bits, fit the harness etc, and then next weekend will be skinning and maybe some painting?

We’ll see.


Darryl
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Aerosim Solutions on March 01, 2010, 08:05:04 PM
Hi Darryl, yes the A340TQ has been installed in Erhard's sim in Thailand it is up and running. Can you resend pics of what you need, I don't know what I've done with them or if you sent me any! I'm snowed under with work just lately but I will get them done...

Cheers Gwyn
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on March 01, 2010, 08:38:11 PM
Gwyn,

OK, sent them through just now, I had already sent them back in December, but no worries.

D
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on March 12, 2010, 03:00:13 AM
AND......A nice little message and photo from Gwyn tonight..completed tap handles (beyond my skill!)... so now I guess I have to spend some time this weekend  building the mounting plates and fitting them.


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During the week I started the long  job of painting components and finishing the extra structural bits inside. I ahven't started on the monitor stand and computer box but soon....

The Fuelcock (yes I know, fuel **** but......) is finished and I am getting the faceplate done in the morning. So by the end of the weekend we should have some interesting pictures.

The only down side is that to paint I had to remove the instrument panel which will not now go back in until the end of the build. A great pity as I was enjoying looking at it and playing with the knobs whilst sitting in the seat.


Darryl
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Bob Reed on March 12, 2010, 05:28:08 AM
See here is another one who sits in his sim and makes airplane noises!!  :D :o 8)
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on March 12, 2010, 07:00:48 PM
Well, ah.....


;D
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on March 19, 2010, 08:14:51 PM
A little bit more progress before I have a weekend off...

The Fuelcock finished and ready to bolt on. It is built from some garden irrigation fittings and an old landing gear lever I had. the handle is 3mm aluminium pollished and the grip "buttons" are chromed nuts joined by a threaded rod.
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Sundry Placards generously cut for me by Chris and his invaluable laser.
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A couple of better photos of the compass...again, the degrees disk by Chris and the body out of 120mm plumbing fitting with the "card" holder in 2mm aluminium and a heavy gauge screw onto angle alu. As always a great 3d effect is obtained by multiple layers of acrylic with  different details etched on them and painted.
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The completed %^%$& of an IFF Destruction unit. Save for the 1  1/2" problem with the GA drawings in the fuselage, this bit has given me more trouble than any other.  About 12 hours spent on it all up to finish!!  It is a whole 8" long and 2" wide.  I should have just bought a housing from Spitfirespares for $300...
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A nice family shot to finish..
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More later in the next week. As always, cheers for the interest.








Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on March 19, 2010, 09:02:30 PM
And just before I pack it in for the day....


The controls now painted and ready to drop in and wire:
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The De-icing switch, the best alu part I have made so far , very pleased. The legend should get engraved this coming week.

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Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: shaneb on March 19, 2010, 09:08:21 PM
Darryl, 

That is really nice work on those parts . . the attention to detail is amazing.  Looking forward to seeing more of your progress, I really like your build.
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: jackpilot on March 20, 2010, 04:47:31 AM
Hi Darryl
Very nice. (even if time consuming)
Aluminum is actually easier to work with than tought.
Can be shaped, cut, drilled,  with ordinary tool and a bit of ingenuity.
Makes very strong parts, unlike wood.
Gives very pro looking results and can be polished to perfection.
And ridiculously inexpensive if you find a local metal shop and dig in their scrap bins.
Jack
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on March 21, 2010, 02:44:15 AM
Thanks Shane,
I've been following your build with great interest too. The Spitfire is getting there at a great rate now.

Jack, unfortunatley I had very little aptitude with my hands at school and a metal work teacher who delighted in crushing people like me. Consequently I have a hard row to hoe, anything that goes well I tend to regard as a fluke and anything that falls apart really dents my confidence. Things like making the Fuelcock are probably more effort and harder to make than say, the deicing unit...but I see it the other way.

One day I may actually start on making the frames out of aluminium, just to see how I go, after all the instrument panel was a huge confidence boost for me....and then convert the cockpit...but it would be a big step for me...wood I feel comfortable with.


Cheers guys
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: shaneb on March 21, 2010, 01:21:42 PM
Hey Darryl,

My favorite saying "nothing's ever easy"  at least for me!  I usually take about three attempts at making a part before I am satisfied with it . . if I'm lucky      :idiot:
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: jackpilot on March 21, 2010, 04:59:32 PM
Darryl.
Well, you obviously catched up since school days because your airplane looks really good.!!
Will you see the propeller forward with your visual?
Those huge windmills were so impressive!
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on March 21, 2010, 07:40:00 PM
Quote from: jackpilot on March 21, 2010, 04:59:32 PM
Darryl.
Well, you obviously catched up since school days because your airplane looks really good.!!
Will you see the propeller forward with your visual?
Those huge windmills were so impressive!

Cheers Jack,

Yes, the model from A2A does show the prop. When they Accusim it, I will be requesting that they pay special attention to the prop, particularly on startup,


And Shane, yep I fall WELL into that category!!


Darryl
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Aerosim Solutions on March 21, 2010, 11:27:34 PM
Hey Darryl, it's about time you took some credit mate! Despite the bits and pieces you have had made by others, aka Me and Chris, your Spitfire is absolutely first class and a true credit to your building skills. It is the best Spitfire sim I have ever seen, I'm fanging for a blast in it!!!

Cheers Gwyn  :)
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on March 22, 2010, 12:54:50 AM
Gwyn,

Cheers mate...   I AM happy to take some credit and I AM happy with what I have achieved...but that doesn't make my parts as good as a professional makes them...and THAT is the issue for me. I guess I am really happy with how I've pushed my limits out (a fair way thanks to some great support from you and others) but I have been extremely fortunate in receiving that support, contributions and advice... that is what has made her what she is (or is fast becoming). To say I have "done it" is pleasing but it is also impossible to ignore that I simply COULDN'T have done it by myself.  BUT then isn't that just THE THING about this community? I don't mean to sound self depreciating OR wreak of "false modesty"...but I do want to give credit where it is due.

I don't stand at my gate barking at strangers because I have a dog to do that for me.....more than happy to acknowledge his efforts too  ;)

I'm aiming at the BEST Spitfire simulator anyone has completed and because I have managed to learn new skills, develop a network of friends who have others AND I can have a good guess at what to attempt and what to seek support on, I am hoping that is exactly what "we" will end up with......


And you, my friend, are second in the pilots seat when she is finished!!!


D

Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Bob Reed on March 22, 2010, 05:06:31 AM
 Darryl, yes that is EXACTLY why Cockpitbuilders was put together! YOUR work is very good. I see some things you have made and even with my 18 years in the autobody feild and my 4 years as a Navy aircraft mechanic, I have no idea how you have made some of those bits... Your sim is already a great piece of work!
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on March 22, 2010, 06:02:13 AM
Cheers Bob!  If you tell me which bits, I'll happily tell you "the secrets".

One thing I can do is make things out of other things rather than fabricate from scratch...so someone sees a decorative fountain head, a couple of 4 inch lengths of conduit, a couple of small 12mm sprinkler heads, a couple of chrome nuts and a  a large plumbing fitting...but I see a fuelcock and the body of a compass.

When I was a kid I had an ENORMOUS bottle of spare bits from Airfix aircraft. My brother and I would tip all of them out and then build Dune Buggies or rockets, or farm equipment out of them....a Lancaster undercarriage leg became a chassis, half a 500lb bomb became a nose cone, a exhaust stack became harrows tynes.

Now I am a big boy, the whole world (or at least major parts of it covered in hardware stores and $2 shops), has become my parts bottle!!


The 3d gauges are something I am particularly happy with. they started being made out of multi layers of printed computer paper like Paper Toll, but when Chris saw them he said "we could do that in acrylic on the laser". So the layering and paint backfilling began. And of course clear acrylic allowed many layers to be put together so that it ends up looking like a real 3d object. .But even with printed paper , you can make quite stunning instruments (I still have one in the pit...the Ammeter and a couple of people have actually asked if that is one of the REAL antique gauges I bought...even when they have seen it up  close.)


So I guess what I am trying to say is , no matter what your skill level, have a go, ask for help, be prepared to do it multiple times, DON'T RUSH THINGS (my biggest fault) and "If I can do it, anybody can".



(Dismounting soapbox and pouring a large drink)
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: jackpilot on March 22, 2010, 07:02:00 AM
I know what you mean, and I know some fellows here who know it too.
I can spend hours in a Hardware store, opening all those little drawers full of washers, joints, mini  bearings, nylon bushing, bolts of all kinds, etc, most of the time without anything precise in mind, just browsing until the little bulb above my head lits up.!
Plumbing supplies too are a gold mine!
Cheers
JP
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: shaneb on March 22, 2010, 02:50:34 PM
Jack,

I thought I was the only one who "browsed the hardware store".  Don't you just love when they ask if they can help you find something . . " oh sure, I'm building an airplane in my basement . . which way to the aircraft parts"      :o

Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on March 22, 2010, 10:09:01 PM
Shane, I am lucky on that score...my local harware store INSIST on update photos every time I go in there!!  8)


Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Bob Reed on March 23, 2010, 04:44:10 AM
Quote from: shaneb on March 22, 2010, 02:50:34 PM
Jack,

I thought I was the only one who "browsed the hardware store".  Don't you just love when they ask if they can help you find something . . " oh sure, I'm building an airplane in my basement . . which way to the aircraft parts"      :o

Well in the last few days I have not had much to laugh about trying to get this business off the ground but... That made me chuckle this morning!
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on March 24, 2010, 01:04:45 AM
An incredible piece of luck this afternoon....picked up the following for just $30 more than it cost me to make the replica!!!

Last time I had the oportunity to buy one it was A$900 and I saw one really bad condition that sold for $550.


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I am still shaking my head in disbelief!!



:shock:
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on March 28, 2010, 07:18:03 PM
I spent this weekend doing the housing that protects the control wires running from the Undercarriage unit. I am gradually beating aluminium. It took some difficult measuring to get it all fitting fluch after the bending of the sides and edges. Allowing for differences in length that different bends cause is not someting I have much experience with...but I resolved to cut it too long, and test fit/eyeball/trim it until it worked. It came out as well as can be expected , as did the Remote Contactor unit with the modern Collins radio inserted instead of the timer.

Pictures to follow


Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on April 07, 2010, 02:29:22 AM
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The single exposure button is working (for taking screen shots) and the red light is functional. I have an idea for the green light but have to check if the "flashing" circuit I have will work. Otherwise I may well arm it with a flashing LED. We'll see.
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I am very happy with how close Chris and I came with the mock up. It is very close in dimensions, just a fair bit thinner than the real one and a little smaller. Still, going off scaling from photos I am pleased. The real one will now take up residence, the fake one will be converted to a junction box for the wiring.

I finished the Windscreen De-Icing  and it has now been engraved by Chris, white undercoat, black top coat and then laser off the black.It gives a magic finish as you can see.
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Remote Contactor (mounting the Collins Radio instead of the timer) is also finished and this time raised tags engraved by Chris.
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On then to the U/C controller unit
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The cover that runs between the U/C  unit and the panel frame was a major job. Measuring the angles and the bends to still fit squarely in the gap was a major stretch for me.  I ended up leaving lots of excess and trimming it down to fit in. It  compliments Gwyns U/C perfectly I think (to which i also added the small detail of the cylinder on the rear. Pictures:  (I did however not notice the sawdust until after these shots DOH!!)
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I also found that I had given Gwyn the wrong picture of the Tank Pressurecock.  So a little modification, a repaint  and it was ready to go.  Then I fabricated the front and rear plates to hold the legend and the rotary switch for thecock.
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Assembled and fitted..(just some painting left to do)
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The new version of the IFF Destruction Unit.  NO COMMENT on this, at least none that is printable..but it looks OK now (ended up changing to a bigger "Emergency" warning label as Gwyn has agreed to make me a scale Emergency Undercarriage Lowering bottle , handle and valve, so it will  be nice to draw more attention to it!!.
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Another gratuitous compass shot...simply because I LOVE this bit!!!
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The current "persons of interest"
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a,  a fairly busy section of "Spitfireville", the right hand side almost complete and test fitted before the skinning starts:
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The Radiator Shutter Lever in progress. I cut two grooves up either side of a steel tube. Screwed a butterfly nut (wingnut) on the end of a threaded rod (with a locking nut) put a couple more along the length to stop the "play" inside the tube and topped it off with a nylex locking nut "button".
The bottom wooden stopper doubles as a mount for the Dowty switch.
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When the button is depressed the against a compression spring it moves the butterfly nut down and this will disengange it from a "gate". The gate will have positions for each of the  of the switch (four ..corresponding to Open, cruise, guns warm and closed, the four normal shutter positions.
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The gate and mount  is the next job.
The Morse Key mounting is my first compound curve (I cheated with the cockpit coaming) achieved by bending over and around an old jar lid. A simple looking piece but not easy to make. I think it came out satisfactorily though.
(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2Fmorse11.jpg&hash=04fee4b1dcf7d68e9912dc48b1e2c35bb1fbf4d6)
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A few of the progress on the left cockpit wall.
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The Throttle is painted, the handles painted and clearcoated, the red boost cut out now adjusted to the right colour, the mounting made more secure and I just need to make the "Airscrew Control" legend to go on the black lever closest. I think I will leave the others bare metal for effect.
(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2Fleft12.jpg&hash=7dd2586d24fd1852d77c4a02210540185b981b2d)

The great Trim Wheel Gwyn made is, in some respects like the later ones and in others like the earlier version. As the primary focus is now the Spitfire 1A / 2A,  I painted in the centre and it is now very like the early model. (another jar lid as a painting mask!!) The rudder trim is still wrong (Mustang) but I will replace that in due course.
All the levers, panels, handles and trims have now been clear coated and the duller finish is more in line with a warbird.
I've also added a third switch housing to the bottom of the other two ...so now have Pressure Head Heat, Fuel Pump (not strictly a Mk 1 or 2 feature!) and a Camera Master.  I still need to get the chains to run dummies from the trim wheels.
(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2Fleft13.jpg&hash=702473c13964fcd8790c0261dafd75aec5c698b6)
That's about it for now.
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Trevor Hale on April 07, 2010, 05:38:07 AM
Drool...  This thing is looking better and better all the time..  Keep up the great work.

Trev
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: shaneb on April 07, 2010, 11:56:13 AM
That looks great . . the attention to detail really makes everything stand out!    :idiot:
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on April 07, 2010, 07:30:08 PM
Thanks guys, it is getting finisheder and finisheder now. ;D
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on April 11, 2010, 07:36:42 AM
The final test fit before pulling all the non essential stuff out and skinning the outside. Then on to painting next weekend.  Pictures:
The front  frame of the canopy section covering the accumulator and radios is where the sim ends at the back. I have now made this canopy frame from alu.  In it the circular button at the top is for "canopy open/close" in FSX. This positioning means that to open or close the canopy you need to bring your hand up and over your head just as in the real thing. Hopefully a nice extra little touch of immersion.
(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2FIMG_3931.jpg&hash=f801c77911cbf5d39123e3d41151482b17698dc3)

The sutton Harness is just draped over the seat for this test fit. It will be installed tomorrow or Wed night.
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The view behind the panel.
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The engine instruments and fuel controls. It has never struck me until now how logically and conveniently placed all of these are, I have read criticisms of teh layout before today...can't understand them now. Just out of frame to the left of the Kygas is the main fuelcock.
(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2FIMG_3938.jpg&hash=b6879bdb4e366cbada8861ebfe7d8dab532683d3)

The "six pack"
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The other side.
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The Full monty.
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(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2FIMG_3934.jpg&hash=89002892d102e7b3a545df4c9b5b5e894a0606a6)
(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2FIMG_3933.jpg&hash=1cf54b1ab7f00f758918afdda3a672729e7a859d)
(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2FIMG_3927.jpg&hash=10876cc43361b0da4190b00184386179d5ff4034)
(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2FIMG_3921.jpg&hash=8b6076356aa1a1895a27b51ab86d791e530316a6)
(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2FIMG_3920.jpg&hash=0836f2fce0cf453755fe89e342dc9d6734deaaf5)


I am so close now, I can smell it!!
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: jackpilot on April 11, 2010, 09:11:52 AM
Darryl
Your Spit(fire) is an inspiration, correction should be an inspiration, to any non airliner builder ...Well almost because I still have this steam gauge syndrome very vivid, like: a full 737-200 panel full of pointers going!!
Just to say that you built one of a kind, nicest, fighter bird, seen this side of cockpitbuilding-land.
And as Nick said: Nothing like the smell of a tailpipe in the Morning!!!
JP
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: XOrionFE on April 11, 2010, 12:36:43 PM
Oh my gosh...this is absolutely incredible.   I love the real look.   Cant wait to see it flying!!
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on April 11, 2010, 07:43:02 PM
Thank you  gents,

I have certainly had my share of inspiration from others, so I hope I can return some of the favour.

JP, Steam Gauges?? Is there iny other kind??  8)


Thanks again and I can't wait to get her going and post a video.



Darryl

Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: andarlite on April 12, 2010, 05:22:48 AM

Outstanding work Darryl. You got a real winner there.


Regards,
Henry
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on April 12, 2010, 06:09:53 AM
Thank you Henry, appreciated.

Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on April 21, 2010, 06:05:53 AM
New update. Getting very close to finished now.


First some detail shots of the interior
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They pretty much speak for themselves.

The seat..with Sutton Harness now fitted (the other two straps will be attached, one behind the seat and one through and onto the back of the sim with  an elastic "inertia lock real".
(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2Fseat1-1.jpg&hash=374777b442c729f12f08ca6f0beb7ae74e7a0a16)
(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2Fseat2-2.jpg&hash=38f047a0c20b9158e6c8558587765728f0a50264)
Armour plate waiting for it's next coat of paint.
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A closer look at the undercarriage unti fairing
(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2Fuccover.jpg&hash=10faf591f8a5fe3ebf74c1cd294d9c09cf690564)

The bottom frame of the bullet proof windcreen with the sides of the front canopy frame.
(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2Fwindscreen1.jpg&hash=87acf11d464362d20029a89201e7787c1899d184)
Most of the bits to fix back in..the Lightbulb holder arrived an is currently drying..thank you Spits!
(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2Fgroup-1.jpg&hash=76312e06217236568650281ac6382bb181ed0ee9)
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The "sound system"
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The top coat of Cabots is on but isn't as shiny as I'd hoped. I think I will go get a gloss and use that for another top coat. Sorry but the flash obscures some of the features
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And the final for tonight...the "signwriting". Painted by putting a cut stencil (adhesive) on the wall..had some fun with that twisting and sticking to itself but we got there.  Pay no attention to the rough green line...that will be covered by the windscreen frame.

the shiny glow around the Moody Blue" is the "cloud" I painted  on to break up the outline.
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More to come Saturday night chaps 
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Trevor Hale on April 21, 2010, 06:11:17 AM
Stunning Pictures..  Man you really have attention to detail don't you.  Amazing progress you have made.

Trev
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on April 21, 2010, 08:08:44 AM
Thanks Trevor,

Yes, I do get caught up in the detail...I did a ton of research for this build and found out a good few things I did not know previously about the Spitfire...which surprised me a bit as I have researched a lot over the years previous to starting this.

I believe the Spitty deserves every little thing that I can give her. I felt a little guilty about using blue instead of pink...I also feel guilty about the name....but poetic licence...

But I want a real Spitfire pilot to climb in and feel like it is "right".

Little things help a lot. For instance, the Sutton Harness running through the right seat decking butr going over the seat edge on the left. , also the ORDER the Sutton Straps are attached in (they are numbered) is correct.

Small stuff like that just gives me great pleasure.

More soon, cheers



Darryl
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: jackpilot on April 21, 2010, 09:34:04 AM
Quote from: DarrylH on April 21, 2010, 08:08:44 AM
But I want a real Spitfire pilot to climb in and feel like it is "right".
Darryl
1) Hurry up, they tend to be rare.
2) This being said, the remaining ones all have a twinkle in their eyes and a formidable love for life, and they might be overly sentimental climbing in your amazing bird.

(I lost one of them a few years ago, RCAF Hurricane though, at close to 90 he still had the best Single Malts in the area and a strong inclination for Cigars, Bridge and Ladies. Flying is the best medicine known to man.!)
Cheers
JP
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on April 21, 2010, 05:18:34 PM
Thanks Jack,

Yes, the chances are not good but I can hope.

Tonight sees the interior get it's last coat of paint and the hole for the Emergency Undercarriage Cylinder has to be cut.

Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on April 28, 2010, 07:15:11 PM
Ok, a series of the real thing and then mine to as she is now:

1
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(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2Faspitfireleft.jpg&hash=45eb73a57a46276339672dfe0ca7095c95d9b621)


2
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(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2Faspitfiretopback.jpg&hash=7fc687ac0f57c5dd4633333de68db13934a4d29a)


3
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(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2Faspitfireright.jpg&hash=41596c1bb8604c9713f5242b4cab45a270eebf01)


4
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(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2Faspitfiretrhoughdoor.jpg&hash=a2d60baf97d41b3735f696ca995ad61965099c6a)






And some gratuitous detail and general shots:




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(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2Faspitfirerear.jpg&hash=159ad06cfbc486daf30ced8c6a5cc71f8d0d1fc9)

(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2Faspitfirefront1.jpg&hash=e70c6a04e081897f5c46fe9b6a094dec3a86c85b)

(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2Faspitfirerightdetail.jpg&hash=990e153f9a7cb8cc1d92b94f38b448613f3b4307)

(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2Faspitfireside.jpg&hash=f3ee881799720c336e9516be9568168605f7b519)

Still a lot to do to make her "flyable" but sitting in her now is great. The leather seat back and headrest are being done, and Spits is making teh door mechanism for me..thanks mate...so it is all go. Hopefully an update soon.
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Kennair on April 28, 2010, 08:42:44 PM
Wow, looks beautiful Darryl, but which one is the yours and which one is the real deal??? LOl.

Cheers,

Ken.
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on April 28, 2010, 10:13:15 PM
Thanks Ken,

You'll have to sneak down this way too.

Any 777 pics yet?


.
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Trevor Hale on April 29, 2010, 04:11:08 AM
Absolutely stunning..  I just can't beleive how well yours matches.  Fantastic Job.

Trev
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: bussgarfield on April 29, 2010, 05:35:22 AM
Very impressive Darryl.

I bet you can't wait to get the sound system up and running to get the pounding of the Merlin in your ears and a large fan at the front just for the atmospheric effect.

Gary
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on April 29, 2010, 05:43:59 PM
Thanks very much guys, appreciated.

Yes, I am busting to get it flyable now but real life has caught up a bit..so it could be a month or so now.

Pictures when I make any progress.


Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: shaneb on April 29, 2010, 06:11:58 PM
Looks great Darryl !   :idiot:
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on April 29, 2010, 06:14:38 PM
Thanks Shane!
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Boeing Skunk Works on April 29, 2010, 06:35:47 PM
Really amazing. That's some great work Darryl.
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version
Post by: DarrylH on April 29, 2010, 10:08:13 PM
Thanks Michael.

Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: jackpilot on April 30, 2010, 07:01:44 PM
check your PM..
JP
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on May 06, 2010, 09:35:55 PM
Cheers Jack!
All,

A brief "update" well, actually a step backwards (thank you so much Andy!!!...MATE  :) :) :)

I now find I need to build yet another camera control. The Camera Selector Unit. Until now I had never seen one, couldn't find one  and was going wing it with a 3 position switch. OFF/Oblique/Vertical. But Andy to the rescue with a picture of the unit.

(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2FCockpitPortsidePR1XI.jpg&hash=e556f6aba2a0022ff50d8208b36e800733648c16)

It seemed to have three switches and lights, and what I thought was a fuse box...details Andy confirmed for me soon after when he found the diagram:

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Luckily I have three supercharger type switches spare, two lights (and just found a third) and stumbled upon a fuse box that is very close or identical, provided it is the size i think it is when it arrives. It is a Type G fuse box...I don't suppose anyone can say "yep, that was the type used in the Camera Selector"?? And into the bargain I picked up a shallow two way AM switch for the OFF toggle!


More work but all for the good I suppose. A genuine thank you Andy.


.
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on May 19, 2010, 04:46:16 AM
The Seat upholstered and the head pad done. He did a great job on both...the seat pad is a "private purchase" item, longer in the back than standard issue (as I am getting too old for hard seats fro 3-4 hours at a time.

(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2FIMG_3979.jpg&hash=9abfd315ecb57fe687dc92e2af38e36e471b6157)
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Boeing Skunk Works on May 19, 2010, 06:07:17 AM
Looks very nice Darryl.

I have to ask, how comfortable is it to sit in the Spitfire cockpit?
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on May 19, 2010, 06:22:17 PM
BSW...simple answer..IT'S NOT!!!!

You sit very straight, the cockpit is wide enough in civvies but would close in rapidly with Irvin Jacket etc on.

I will be sitting on a "parachute" made out of a soft cushion and have the full back rest. BUT there are also plenty of sharp edges etc to "take bark off" as we say here..so I have leather flying gloves to protect my hands. Leg room is good. I also don't need to worry about banging my head...I think if I put a canopy on it would close in rapidly too.

It certainly doesn't have the roomy feel of an F16.



Darryl
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on July 06, 2010, 12:36:41 AM
OK, finally some photos of the Throttle (and you can see the new better green interior as well on the last two photos..the throttle pics washed out with the flash.).

1. Closed position, Prop Pitch full fine...as you would leave the aircraft.

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2. Maximum weak mixture setting with the mixture lever (left) at its full travel. The throttle can be moved forward from here but will exceed the allowable boost if weak mixture is selected. When the throttle is closed from here it takes the mixture back with it to "rich" (fully back) position, so the engine can not be run at weak mixture and low power, which causes detonation if allowed to happen.

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3. The warning horn switch (rear) and undercarriage indicator power switch(forward).

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4. The label for the throttle...carved with an engraving dremel bit into the wood handle I made.

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5. Full rated boost with the throttle at the forward stop...if moved a little left from here it can be pushed further forward to the takeoff setting (or to full boost if the boost override cutout is flipped. I've just noticed that this setting is NOT safe as the mixture is "weak"..it should be pulled back fully...Ill catch hell from the Mechanic for that!!

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6. Top view..you can see the stop on the left for the mixture at half way...also the forward stop for Rated Boost and then the slip chanel of the gate to go sideways and a little further forward into  Take off Boost.

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And a couple of the monitor tray now ready to be installed after the wiring is finished.
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Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: shaneb on July 06, 2010, 04:19:48 PM
Hey Darryl,

TQ looks awesome . . really like your project!   :idiot:
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on July 06, 2010, 05:42:41 PM
Thanks Shane,


D
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Aerosim Solutions on July 06, 2010, 06:50:00 PM
Now how long did it take me to machine up that beautiful PVC MkIX Spitfire throttle handle again? Oh yes, it was just under two hours I think. I bet it is a wonderful paperweight now! Oh sigh!!!

GP
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on July 06, 2010, 08:04:37 PM
**G*** Gwyn, no, not a paper weight...safely aside for attaching when I fly the RealAir Spitfire IX. The mixture is a "weak" or "Automatic" switch for that aircraft so the throttle still fits perfectly well with it.  I will use it for all aircraft other than the Mk II as the other thing it does is protects my hand from great gouges being taken out by the TR radio controller above the throttle!!! (ask me how I know!!!...note to self..ALWAYS wear 1941 pattern gauntlets to fly this thing)


D
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Aerosim Solutions on July 06, 2010, 09:26:55 PM
Or you could throw it at the Messerschmitts when you're out of ammo!
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on July 06, 2010, 09:37:18 PM
Quote from: Aerosim Solutions on July 06, 2010, 09:26:55 PM
Or you could throw it at the Messerschmitts when you're out of ammo!

The handle or the bloody TR controller :D


Oh, Radiator stuff on way!
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on September 01, 2010, 05:00:15 PM
Latest photos.

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The office.
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From rear starboard quarter
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Panel
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Pipe detailing, left hand side.
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Landing Lamp Unit and Compass
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Ready to go.
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Chocks away
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Easy turns.
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Throwing her around
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Pre landing checks
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Turning final
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Short final
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Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: jackpilot on September 01, 2010, 05:28:05 PM
Whaoooo!

And I thought "I " was crazy......Great, this is pure and fantastic Madness!

Congrats, best bird !!!!! (and amazing Pilot!!)

Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on September 01, 2010, 08:24:15 PM
Thanks Jack,

Would you believe...some people have had the gall to call me "obsessive".

The helmet and mask are are regular feature, the sound being organised through them. The Irvin Jacket is not...mid winter here and it was still intolerably hot in that jacket!! The gloves are also fairly essential as there are quite a few sharp edges in there!

I am currently putting together a video which will show the lights working (a big thanks to the guys who helped me there) and the instruments working as well as the new 7" I've just put on as a rear view mirror.

cheers mate, thanks for the interest and for almost not calling me a nutter!!  ;D
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: jackpilot on September 02, 2010, 03:43:02 AM
My 2¢, because I cant keep my brainwaves quiet. :P

Maybe you could build the complete birdcage above your head and  in front, including plexi windows and have one single short throw projector giving you some 4-5 square meters image...enough to get disoriented in a tail spin!!!

Something like this
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Aerosim Solutions on September 02, 2010, 04:35:21 PM
Just wondering where the picture of me flying it is? Come on Darryl LOL!!!
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on September 02, 2010, 08:26:48 PM
Gwyn,

Wasn't that YOU with the Pony Tail?? Sorry, I'll dig a couple out and post them...just to prove you are not some myth that people tell their children at bedtime if they want them to grow up to be Jordies.... :P


Jack,

I considered something along those lines but having stood on teh wing root and gazed through the Mk22's windscreen..seeing just HOW restricted forward view is, I opted for the "cramped" look of the three monitors with heavy frames. With the TiR I am not sure that you could improve it much? Still..one day maybe..

Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: RojanTrojan on September 04, 2010, 07:21:20 AM
Holy moly! Stunning build. The attention to detail is incredible!

Well done.

Rhydian
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on September 05, 2010, 07:27:34 PM
Thanks mate!!

First rough video. A lot of room to grow with the new video software but this is my first attempt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVfeiBX7Aww

Concentrates on visuals and a few gauges rather than an overall view of the pit.

Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: NAX228 on September 06, 2010, 12:34:27 AM
nice build!!
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Bob Reed on September 06, 2010, 06:47:07 AM
What a build! Nice job. I am a little confused on the camera controls. What are you doing there?
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on September 06, 2010, 05:05:45 PM
Thanks guys!!

Bob, the Camera Selector (angular box) is just for show. The wiring will be such that if you flick the Port/Stbd/Oblique toggles, the appropriate light will come on. The Type 35 is rigged with a push switch that takes screen shots and a couple of lights which are for 1. Power on, steady red, 2. flashing green on and off to simulate "exposure in process". The gun camera button is similarly linked to the screen shot command.

Now that the gunsight has proven untenable, I will make a new wedge plate for the Type35 controller which will now go where the gunsight was (as in most PRU planes.)   

So fly straight, look left and reach up to the panel to push the exposure button. Voila, oblique photo. Now after a 200 mile flight to small pinpoint target on clock and compass, in bad weather, I can take the photo of the object, return to base and check to see that I got the right shots!! If not.....back the next time.  As I don't generally like flying the same route twice..it is a good incentive for me to do it right first time.

The Spit is very difficult and tiring to fly and navigate for long periods. So I will be getting some of the discomfort and frustration that faced PR pilots but, of course, none of the danger.


Darryl



Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Aerosim Solutions on March 13, 2011, 10:09:06 PM
Hi all,
This weekend I made this "Drop tank release" mechanism for a very happy Darryl!
Darryl supplied me with genuine Supermarine drawings for this part, I had to convert the secret ancient imperial code to metric to drive the CNC but the finished part looks exactly like the pictures of the real thing.
A320 Airbus flap and spolier mechanisms next on the list...
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Cheers, Gwyn
www.aerosimsolutions.com.au (http://www.aerosimsolutions.com.au/)
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on March 24, 2011, 07:28:33 PM
Looking forward to getting it all in on Sunday mate!!

D
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: jackpilot on March 25, 2011, 04:22:32 AM
Darryl

Keep us posted and "pictured" about your latest missions as I am pretty sure that you fly the big beast!!
We are anxiously waiting at the Club ,mug in hand, sweating in the bomber jackets ....

Cheers
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on March 25, 2011, 07:28:34 PM
Yes Jack, I fly her now (and that has held up building progress a bit!!)

This is one I had a while back and before A2A Accusim Spitfire was released. The Acc makes things even more interesting now and I was lucky enough to have major input into the systems and performance of her throughout Beta.   

My first planned and "live", cross country  flight ...I took off from Bunbury and headed north for Jandakot (about 90 NM) and return. (to "virtually" catch up with Gwyn and pick up the squillionth part he made me!). I planned to cruise at 20,000ft,  at least for the 10 or 15 minutes each way that I would not be on climb or descent!! It was a cloudy mucky late afternoon (realtime weather) and I was glad of the "big blue compass" (WA coastline) that made needing to see much of the ground superfluous. This would help later on as well, because the last part of the flight would certainly be Night VFR.

It went really well, a hard climb at +9 Boost / 2850 RPM, but temps and pressures stayed in the green and all was right with the world. I wasn't sure what the poor people were doing and couldn't have cared less.

The new trim wheels gave a much better feel, the lights were working, the switches were all working, the throttle is now adjusted to feel "right". The new head tracker is great and clipped onto the Type C Helmet without having to make any modification to either. The helmet, mask, goggles, Mae West, Sutton Harness and heavy jacket were suitably  awkward and uncomfortable and I was not in a  my computer room but "there". I'm nothing if not compulsive!!

Everything was perfect, ...until Myalup (1/3 of the way to Jandakot).

There, at 16500ft  the engine gave a loud cough and promptly dropped 800rpm. Training immediately took over !! It  ran rough for as long as it took me to trim for the speed I deemed appropriate given the spare altitude I had (about 120mph as a compromise between controllability whilst putting most of my attention inside the cockpit and on the engine...and best glide, which is actually about 90mph).

Then it died altogether. My first ever non Accusim, unplanned engine failure in FSX. 

I glided in circles around Mylup as there is a small private strip there. I tried the starter...no good. Mixture full rich then back to about almost where it had been, no good,  Mags off and on again...nothing.

I shut everything down, noted height (12,000 odd ) and position (still nice and near Mylup). Ok, plenty of time for another go. Fuel on, throttle back as far as possible (given the link between throttle and mixture and the need for a lean mixture at that height), prop full RPM, flick mags, press starter. Bang and off she went but ran rough and the revs wildly varied at any throttle / pitch setting that gave over 2300. So I set +2 / 2250 and it seemed to settle down. I also found that I could maintain height and even climb a little (200-300fpm) at this setting and about 140-150 indicated, temps OK.

So I thought long and hard about it and decided to limp back to Bunbury, 35NM or so. It was a big call with Mylup strip in sight but that is small and rough and has some nasty trees. I know there is a little CALM (government) water bomber strip between me and Bunbury (even though I was not sure exactly where and it isn't marked on the map) and so I figure, between the three fields 10 miles is the furthest I should have to glide even if I've made a bad decision and she packs up all together. Speed is life but altitude is life insurance so even at the height I was, I decided climbing at the expense of a little forward speed was well worth the trade off (not sure this was the right decision really).  And if all else fails the area below is pretty flat farm land for the most part. So +2 / 2250, 300fpm climb and head south....

I got up to nearly 14000 but then the temps started to climb rapidly. Throttle back to +0..stabilize. But after a couple of minutes the temps went wild again and it sounded worse than Lee Marvin singing "Wandering Star" and was running rougher than a Derry night club on 12th July.

I glided for 30 seconds but was losing too much height so I decided to let her have about 500fpm and -4 / 2250, that did the trick. There followed 15 odd minutes of watching temps like a hawk and watching for suitable fields below, between the clouds. I particularly enjoyed entering 8/8 cloud at 8000 and not being able to see a thing...but broke out at 6000 just north of Bunbury strip. So not too bad there. By the time I joined mid downwind I had decided on a glide approach but a bit quick and a bit high. I aimed for a third of the way down the strip even though I had some power assisting the glide so if she quit I was already pretty much on a "glide approach". Bunbury is a long strip for a country field so no problems over-running.. The engine seemed to be behaving much better at the lower altitude but I wasn't taking any chances.

In the end I made a nice three pointer but with a bit of a hop. This finished an interesting flight. Total time mount to dismount was 48 minutes. I still have no idea what happened but hey, that is for the L.A.M.E to sort out. One valuable aircraft back on the ground, in one piece and my drycleaner will not be unhappy

Having had an unnervingly similar experience in real life a few years ago (but in clear weather, in a 172 and at 5000, 10 miles out) I was pleased to notice that my palms weren't TOO sweaty and that the decisions I had made that day held true in the sim. 

The helmet, Mae West, gloves, cockpit, TiR5, flight model and the brilliant ORBX/OZx scenery made it a flight to remember.
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: shaneb on March 26, 2011, 04:28:53 AM
Hey Darryl,

Loved the play by play . . your having fun now!  It is/has been really entertaining watching your build come together.  No doubt a very unique project in the sim builders world!    :idiot:
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on March 29, 2011, 04:45:57 PM
Thanks ShaneB,

Yes, it is great fun but very tiring to fly for more than  an hour or so if "navigating".

When maps need to be used they are completely awkward. There is no room to open them, no room to store them that is not "just" out of reach without serious wriggling, the ground is all but invisible under the nose and wings, requiring you to "tip up" the aircraft to get a fix etc etc etc....

The compass is also very inconveniently placed and requires an amount of leaning and bending to look down at it. Taylor, one of the great PRU pilots reckoned that the best he could do in clear weather was to fly within 5 degrees of track!!

All in all it is a real challenge!

I will have some videos finished soon (traing videos for A2A's Spitfire) and will post notice here. when done.


regards


Darryl
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on July 13, 2011, 08:35:38 PM
I have been very busy in RL lately so not much done on the building front. A major update will follow at some stage in the near future hopefully.

In the meantime,since the last "blow by blow" was received well, I thought I would share with you the latest "adventure".

For those who are not familiar with A2A's Accu-Sim concept...it takes the engine and some other calcs out of FSX, redoes them and then forces FSX to use the outside figures. This delivers an incredible level of realism and means that the aircraft MUST be flown properly or you are in for trouble. Random failures also happen but rarely.


I believe that one of the most valuable possessions (if you like) that a pilot has is his "currency".

If you are not "current" in general or "on type" you are already one step behind the
play. That can, in real life, cost you that life but thankfully in a Sim, it usually just
leaves you red faced. Accu-Sim brings this all in to play.

And so to the whole sad story.......

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Monday 12th July 2011.

The previous flight in the Spitfire Mk II had been low level aerobatics and I had run
her hard...but she seemed to be in good shape nonetheless (Factor 1). I managed to implement Alex Henshaw's technique and can now roll at hanger height, using the fuselage as an extra "wing area" for parts of the roll.  Great fun but stressfull for the normally aspirated Merlin. One feature of Accu-Sim is that the aircraft are "persistent " that is, next time you load up, the aircraft is in exactly the same state as you left it last flight, mechanically, fuel, setup, damage, wear  etc.

After a lay off of a few weeks, I met up with Ron for some aerobatics practice and
formation flying out of Busselton. The warm ups took longer than expected for various reasons (but all checks properly done) and so by takeoff the Radiator was right on 120C. (Factor 2). Any higher (ANY!!) and it would have required a shut down.

Ron had drawn a fair way ahead and above me, so I expedited my takeoff and went gear
up, then immediately concentrated on closing the distance whilst still keeping her at
or below max temps (Factor 3).

Despite battling with the temps the gap was closed but, unusually, I did use the
rudder trim to keep me straight in the climb, something I NEVER do as the rudder
forces on climb are not that great anyway and only have to be used sporadically and
only in a very steep climb. (Factor 4).

When it came time to form up on Ron's starboard wing, we exchanged temps, rpm, boost
setting and airspeed, as per normal. (in this case 2300rpm at +2 and Ron had 232mph
indicated). Ron was running Radiator at 113C and I had mine down to 100C but my oil
temp was 5 or 6C higher than his and not too far south of 90C, the maximum for oil).

I quickly found that at these settings, I could not maintain formation. I put this
down to the previous low level aeros having pushed the engine a bit hard, a suspicion
that seemed to be confirmed by the RPM surging a little more than usual. Or perhaps
having strained the govenor?? Any how, Accu-sim models things differently, so my
Monday Morning Spitfire was just being difficult, or so I thought.

After that the formation took our attention for a while and the lower boost and the high cruise speed let the temps fall back a bit. Our radiators pretty much syncronised at 100C but my oil temp was still 5-6 higher. By this time I was watching the temps intently on a
regular basis, looking for early signs of trouble. (Factor 5). The Merlin will seize up in less two minutes if oil fails.

When the fuel level dictated, we turned back to Busselton, by this time some 40-50nm
away. It was at this time that we decided on Ron trying to form up on me.

NOW all the pieces fell in to place: Sitting there, nicely perched about six to eight inches
from closed, he saw my port undercarriage leg, just open enough to disrupt the airflow into the oil cooler!

Damn that Undercarriage Indicator "UP" Light, it shouldn't be on!!! Go to tap glass
(my standard response to any instrument problem).....it ISN'T on.

You know that sick feeling when you realise that you have done something REALLY stupid
and obviously so??.... I realised that in my haste to "get off", I had not actually
VISUALLY confirmed that the "UP" light had come on. 

So, humbled, I flew back towards Busselton and thought long and hard about
undercarriage failure drills, visual indicators, the unfairness of it all and how I
was going to stop Ron broadcasting my stupidity to the world :) 

In the end, we diverted to Bunbury, as that was closer and, as my home field, I am
very familiar with how everything should "look and feel" on approach. Once near the
field, I attempted to lock the wheel back up by inverting the Spitfire. No good. So
next I lowered the gear to see if it would go down and lock. The right gear deployed
normally but the left wouldn't budge. So next I tried the Emergency Undercarriage
Cylinder...no joy either. At least the right gear still retracted, that was something.
So, resigned to a belly landing, I checked the gear lever WAS in the UP position (in
case the right leg extended for some reason on approach, it would at least collapse on
landing), established a normal circuit but a couple of hundred feet high and aiming,
eventually, at 1/3 down the strip, opened the canopy and when turning onto final, shut
off the fuel and electrics, checked the Sutton was tight and disconnected the R/T
leads. At 100 feet I realised that I had been so intent on lining up for 1/3 of the
runway, that I was still aiming for the bitumen, not for the grass to the side, which
was my intended target.So I eased the nose over a bit and made a very good belly
landing (as adjudged by Ron) pulling up quickly and doing hardly any damage apart from
the airscrew and radiator.       

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So...what went wrong? Well, as usual, no single problem leads to an aviation
"incident", there is always a chain of events that conspire. My assessment is
below but I am also keen to hear from any other pilots who have an opinion
on it (apart from one that says morons shouldn't be allowed to fly Spitfires!!)

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1. Whilst past events MUST be taken into account, current problems should be judged on
their merits and without preconception. (assumed substandard performance because
engine tired)

2. The lack of recent flying makes everything much more of an effort and therefore
effectively multiplies any normal workload. Should there be a problem occur (high
temps, lateness ) this can lead to "standard" procedures being skipped or missed (Not
checking U/C Light).   

3. Attention needs to be paid to the WHOLE panel, not just a segment of it.
(concentrating on engine instruments on the right to "catch up" without overheating..effectively ignoring the left of the panel where the U/C Light SHOULD have been showing). The Spitfire has the U/C Light AND physical indicators in the wings and yet because my attention was on the gauges to the right, I missed the lack of "UP "light AND the small portion of red U/C indicator pin still protruding through the wing. 

4. Currency builds consistency. The rudder trim, once dialed in, was left there, effectively concealing the drag caused by the protruding U/C leg. This went unnoticed as I "never use it".

5. Persistent unexplained rise in oil temp should have raised questions as to what other possible causes there could be, rather than an assumption of "bad day"...particularly as radiator temp was around normal. Watching for things to get worse is all very fine but it should NOT preclude further checking for the source of the problem.

What went right....?

1. Practice emergency procedures, have them burned into your brain so that they become automatic. At least once things WERE discovered, the solutions/precautions were pretty much automatic to me.

2. Know your aircraft.... glide approach speeds, where everything is in the cockpit to shut down quickly, what you can and can't turn off or the order that it should be turned off (no good shutting down electrics if your flaps are electric and you need them..etc etc).

3. Burn off fuel. Easy in this case as we were RTB because of fuel anyway...but don't belly land with full tanks.

Yet another Accu-sim experience that is ONLY available from A2A. Thanks guys!


Ron gives me the "good news"
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Attempting to lower my gear.
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Barely visible here but all too obvious AFTER the gear problem was found..the U/C tab extended a fraction above the wing.
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The U/C leg still in jammed position after the belly landing.
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Darryl
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on September 05, 2011, 09:58:29 PM
Ok, a while since I had anything concrete to show (and I have actually been doing a bit on the F-16 again in between) But here is the latest:

Vent Control added under starboard coaming, Oxygen Stopc ock added, (also added a "Cockpit Heat" control which actually controls oxygen flow height) and an undercarriage warning horn cancell switch...all functional. The wires for these are all hidden in the pipework so everything mechanical, hydraulic, pneumatic or cabled appears to work like that and not by electrical toggles, pots, encoders or limit switches as they actually do.

Relasered some gauges (notably the AH) , added all the pipework (mostly from aluminium but some polyethelene and some brass), added proper gun button (thanks again Tony!!) all to tighten up on the details...

Added a couple of PRU specific items (mudflap release on starboard , Amp and OAT gauges next Landing Lamp Control)


And also some general tidy up work, fuse boxes and the start of the Mk V modifications..(fuel pump switch, Oil Dilution Pushbutton and guard) 

I have a ground/air switch here but I am still trying to confirm whether they were actually on the Mk V originally or have been added to the modern restorations.

Anyway, enjoy...

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Lastly the result of some fossicking:

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A pair of Mk IVb's on teh way as well.
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: shaneb on September 06, 2011, 05:20:54 AM
Hey Darryl,

That is awesome . . museum quality . .  Amazing detail work!     :idiot:
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on September 06, 2011, 07:03:48 AM
Thank you Shane!
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: phil744 on September 06, 2011, 03:28:54 PM
That is just jaw dropping beautiful, is it flyable yet or you still working on that?

Seriously i take my hat of to you, if there was sim of the year event you would have my vote no questions asked
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on September 06, 2011, 06:43:34 PM
Thanks Phil,

Yes, fully flyable now (see post 106 and 109 above) just a little detailing and some PRU specific kit left to fit.

The Spit is terrific fun to fly but very challenging and tiring to navigate over my 2 hour "Photo Recon" missions. Between watching the engine temps like a hawk, remembering the oxygen cabin height adjustments, syncing the gyro and the compass, checking behind to make sure I haven't drifted into the condensation level, folding and unfolding maps in an incredibly small space, sitting on an unyielding parachute and having to roll 90 degrees (and upset the compass) just to see the ground (past the nose and those huge wings) and get a positive VFR nav fix from 20,000ft,.... THEN you can relax enough to "just" scan the sky continually for the guys who are trying to kill you.

At least the last is not a worry in FSX but I try to maintain a scan for sake of "realism" .
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: jackpilot on September 08, 2011, 12:30:09 PM
You know what? ....I think you may well be the worst case of us all!!!   :laugh:

I second Phil
I would vote for your bird!
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on September 09, 2011, 01:20:22 AM
Jack, Phil

Thanks for the "vote", both of you :)


Yes, I think you mayt be right.  That is why I rarely mention the F-16 (which actually cost me around twice what the Spitfire did to build).


To paraphrase Mr Wilde"

To build one simulator, Mr Worthing, may be regarded as a misfortune, to build two, looks like carlessness!


:D :D


Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Bob Reed on September 09, 2011, 06:33:58 AM
Would love to see some pics of the 16!  :D
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on September 09, 2011, 08:02:35 AM
No worries Bob, in the morning,

D
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on September 09, 2011, 07:54:41 PM
There you go Bob..

Still a lot of work left to do..once the Spitfire is totally finihed.

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Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Bob Reed on September 09, 2011, 07:57:22 PM
Did you build all of that like you did the Spit? WOW!
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on September 10, 2011, 03:21:09 AM
Bob,

I had the shell half built when I got the opportunity to buy one that a guy had prototyped, so I took that. The structure is a little more complicated thah the Spit and so that saved me six months probably.

A lot of the panels etc are the real thing, now interfaced. The seat I built with a lot of real parts and accessories hung on to it...Parachute box, oxygen fittings, etc,

The cockpit fittings, arm wrest (and wrist wrest still to be fitted) are real as are many of the instrumnets in the main centre console.

The "ICP" and "MFDs Bezels" are all real and integrated through connector cards .


D
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: shaneb on September 10, 2011, 08:12:55 AM
Really nice Darryl!   :idiot:
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Bob Reed on September 10, 2011, 08:28:54 AM
This is another great looking sim. What are your plans for flying it? I ask for a reason.......
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on September 10, 2011, 09:45:58 AM
Thanks Shane!!


Bob,

She flys with Falcon 4..upgraded to OF.

I have flown her on occasion but not all systems work yet.

The Spitfire really sidelined this bird but I have not lost interest. In another 12 months, hopefully, this one will be complete too...

Now, the reason??  ;)
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: Bob Reed on September 10, 2011, 09:49:56 AM
Quote from: DarrylH on September 10, 2011, 09:45:58 AM


Now, the reason??  ;)

So are you open to a sim software change? More when I have more....lol  :idiot:
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on September 10, 2011, 06:29:08 PM
Bob,

Yes and no....the computer on the F-16 is only a dual core. It runs Falcon well but won't really do FSX..haven't got, or tried, X-Plane.

I was watching FO but that seems to be "in due course".

I haven't tried BMS yet but will have a serious look at that too when I get "back" to the F-16,

Anyhows..yep, let me know when you "can" ... I may need to upgrade the computer...ah...not looking forward to putting THAT to teh War Office...

cheers


Darryl
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on December 13, 2012, 09:55:33 PM
The bigggest news I have is the arrival of an 900cm carriage lathe and a medium sized milling machine, which have allowed me to start to build what remains of the door latch (the completion of a project that fell through..)
and to build the primer mechanism out of all brass.

A small side project replaced a cracked plastic retaining block in the radiator shutter lever with an aluminium one and replaced the plastic button with aluminium also.

Slowly I am building the skills required to finish off the sim to a standard I can be happy with and this should lift my work up another notch or two!!

After the indefinite deferral of the  Spit Mk V,  I am now thinking seriously about converting the cockpit back to a Mk I but with "some" updates. Actually these will be "regressions" from where I am now but will look like updates.
I plan to make  "blank" covers for the second fuel gauge and button and for the flaps gauge. These will then look "deleted" even though they never actually made it to the cockpit in the first place.

The undercarriage control unit is tweaking my conscience a little....if the other upgrades were done, it is almost certain that the current powered hydraulic unit would have been fitted...but the Mk I hand pump is just SOOOOO damed cool and
I now have the gear to build it.   

The real thing:

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Of course it would mean relocating the  slipper tank tap/release but I think that is a small price to pay. I may relocate it to where the map box should be low and left or rear right ... or I may just put it in a box next to the old U/C Unit....or sell them both.

Choices, choices, choices....


The P8.....


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The compass. The spider is mounted on a stepper motor and board hacked from a Flight illusion cessna compass that used to just be mounted in the main compass body. That compass was a whisky type and so the spider needed to be made to fit on top and the compass card had to be removed altogether.

The outer ring rotates to set course, the stepper turns the spider and it all works just like the original...which is NO compliment, I assure you!!! (see earlier post)


Cockpit and new screen also the extra Navigation Panel with ADF and the "second engine" panel on the right

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A small detail but it all helps..the Cabin heat label now on (this encoder actually controls oxygen flow altitude/rate)

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The Primer mechanism...a slide pot which will use FSUIPC to send  "open",  "pump" and "close" codes to the sim via FSUIPC at different points on the axis. The brass rod is threaded so the primer lock can still be screwed closed/open. It will be tapped into the primer pump handle.

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The hardest job so far, really, the door latch. The latch handle and rods were made for me (swapped for some laser work) but I've finished them from the rough blanks. The latches themselves were a lathe/mill combination job,my very first!!! with the square hole of the latch guide being hand finished. The claws are made from round and square steel stock and threaded together (saving me using an independant 4 jaw chuck to turn them and mill them from a single square piece.

I'm quite happy for a first try at "fitting". Making things "mate" is not at all easy

The whole assembly so far:
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The (front) claw and guide assembled... square holes are fun!! The finish is reasonable but not perfect..it does look a bit better "in person", the light of the flash does emphasise the ares that are not perfectly smooth....still, no excuses. 


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The claw of the rear latch..the second guide is still to be machined when I get some time.

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And finally, an aquisition from yesterday, the very rare and, in this case still fully functional, Harness Recoil Reel. This will make the Sutton Harness fully functional and allow for the extra cockpit checks on takeoff and landing.


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Not much to happen over the holidays as I am off trekking over mountains again....getting too old for that, just haven't realised it yet!!!


Darryl
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: jackpilot on December 14, 2012, 04:26:25 PM
You win...
   Flat out...

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Good to see you back on line.
Jack
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on December 16, 2012, 12:39:39 AM
Gee thanks Jack...I think.... :)

I've been too heavily tied up with A2A stuff and the cockpit has suffered. But big things are planned for the new year.


Well, just got word from a friend with a a real U/C hand pump. All the details and measurements I am missing will be available, so after the trek and the silly season, I will be onto it. I just can't risk using the machines until after then, I need all fingers and toes :0

Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on February 26, 2013, 06:52:14 PM
Some very rough work on the door. This has proved to be a real challenge in that the factory drawings were inaccurate in the cockpit area so the whole sim is an inch too long. I have managed to "make" the door latch stretch but the proportions look a little off..never mind.

The real door is quite a work of art, very thin and strong and with a beautiful piano hinge base that pivots the whole thing out. It also fits snuggly into a designed recess, which was beyond me whilst using a wooden frame and plastic skin. It took me a wasted wooden blank, a small sheet of ali and about an hour to work out I was NEVER going to get it made like it really is!! So I settled on an "outside" fit of the skin, along the edge of the door "hole" in the sim and will use two or three ordinary door hinges. I wanted the door to "look" thin from the inside of the cockpit, so I made it thick enough to be strong but then made an inner skin which makes the whole thing LOOK thin when viewed from each side (and also gave me a useful cavity to hide all my dodgy joins, crossbraces and gluing!!)


I also found that to "look" square, the thing actually had to be made "out of plum" which was REALLY annoying until the outside skin went on and then it all LOOKED square...amazing and I can't explain it...just don't put a set square near it!! :)


So....The door itself, outside view.

(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2FIMG_0581_zps15ae5bf0.jpg&hash=70a21a30b714f6d57f14a57bfb5cd13cf727b287)



And inside.

(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2FIMG_0588_zps82132eb3.jpg&hash=6028e6acb8845c6f846de65dd109f2e9ba777595)



The Door latch, now attached to the top spar and complete except for fitting the aft latch claw and guide. The latch claw is made but the guide is this weekend's problem (hopefully).

(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2FIMG_0580_zpsdf0c6a06.jpg&hash=920da751066582f7fabaf01c202ec6e106aa6f32)

(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2FIMG_0587_zps77846a81.jpg&hash=0ca0c5af4fcea9dc229777ce12d293c3336770bc)


(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2FIMG_0583_zpsf56258ee.jpg&hash=0d4870d9ddfd04e196ef514389a6a4bad237df76)




The way it works..pivot point in the centre and rotates away, retracting the claw.

(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2FIMG_0586_zps758f1b9d.jpg&hash=087d19abf8430a963e3317b35face20740895321)


(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2FIMG_0585_zps4770a1e2.jpg&hash=c458e3ee8fdcea76f327befa34ba0cc85f448e96)


(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2FIMG_0584_zps1a9161e1.jpg&hash=02b6db406b6c4a31cce67a9f3f0bf0d60b2053b2)


More to come when painted and attached.
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on March 02, 2013, 09:22:16 AM
The door with more detail and the bottom rail and hinge fitted. Tomorrow I will paint it after finishing the last latch guide.

(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2FDoornearlyfin_zpsd5ea90eb.jpg&hash=24212c7184d76274f3e819a42a8ce4a785536153)


Why I haven't finished the last latch guide...

Not sure whether it is "completion anxiety" or attention to detail (let's call it attention to detail, eh??) but I decided today that I didn't like the nice chromed head nuts that I had used on 1/4 bolts to secure the links in the door latch...so I spent the time available designing making and installing four brass cotter pins, as per the original.


These are 20mm long, to fit 4.6mm diameter hole and the end hole for the split pin is 2mm!! Obviously I am not going to win any machining contests just yet but I am pleased with the way they came up and all four are machined pretty much identical specs.


  (https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2Fcot2_zpscb5c5926.jpg&hash=3d17c66d305a480e895faf53363eb8c168a8542e)


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Temp fitted....


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That's all for tonight.
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on March 03, 2013, 08:57:18 AM
Oh well......


I guess I will just have to admit it is "completion anxiety" after all. After a late night and, um, a single drink (or maybe two) which went to my head I couldn't face the guide today....

But I DID notice that the cupscrew that is the axle for the door latch did not look right...so I turned a faux locking cap for the axle and it came up quite well.
I did manage to break my parting tool in the process (on aluminium no more/less!!) but that was not wholey uexpected as it was never quite "right" for my lathe. I will now search for a new one.


(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2Fcapcupscrew2_zpsdbfd4410.jpg&hash=8196fd70d94c8b7e61029dbeddce656ce446f50c)

(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2Fcapcupscrew3_zpsaec3e9e1.jpg&hash=8b5de21297b054c991b900492b90f640795369c6)


The real thing:


(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2F03es09_013_zps5cc1ecb1.jpg&hash=28dd67aea37cb90b9f6d164857d6c56e8bc7305f)

And a quick start to the paint job for the door:


(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2Fdoorpain2_zps34d1c183.jpg&hash=ada5b8a261166308dfbd553413ac3f7c29c7be0e)

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Will it never end???????
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: andarlite on March 06, 2013, 08:35:31 AM
Darryl, it's too bad you had to be in Australia (or I suppose it's too bad I had to be in Canada) ... would love to be able to see your cockpit. Nice job.


Henry
Title: Re: Spitfire FR version (WARNING- NOT an airliner *G* )
Post by: DarrylH on March 06, 2013, 06:56:53 PM
Thanks Henry,

You'd be more than welcome if you ever get over this way.

My lathe died, so a small delay while the motor is replaced has given me the chance to do other bits.

Stencil done..not quite straight but as I said before, the door is actually out of plum. The warning looks almost straight when you are sat in the cockpit.

(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc17%2FKillratioDH%2Fdoorlabel_zpsa4dddf10.jpg&hash=d60ebed643a95acdd6f4f62772651ada97727fec)

I should mention, the sign was done the same way I did "Moody Blue". Chris cut a paper stencil with "sticky" back. This was transfered to the door and sprayed white first. The final colour is "engine red", the best and closest paint I could get to a flat red. It is a bit shiny but will fade. Because it is engine paint, it is also fairly thick and so stands a little proud..which is inaccurate but certainly made cleaning up any seepage under the stencil much easier.
Overall I'm very pleased.

Next job is the second (rear) latch guide this weekend. I've put that off as far as I can now that I won't have the lathe. I'm not really sure what scares me about it, except maybe hand filing the "square" hole to be firmly fit with the claw...the front one is absolutely smooth now that the keyway is painted..hope it wasn't a fluke :) ;)