737 TQ from Revolution Simproducts

[ian@737ng.co.uk]

capt. riggins, good day sir..........
         well i guess you are happy then.     i had the first production prototype of this TQ and it was good.   and now there are all the improvements done, no looking back.
i'm off to paris next thursday to meet up with Eren to discuss some more 'innovative' ideas for the future.
stay tuned.......
regards to all .... ian

[NAX228]

Lets get this post into topic again.

What order number did you have my737sim?
I think I have order #11. Shouldn't be to long now...

[my737sim]

Lets get this post into topic again.

What order number did you have my737sim?
I think I have order #11. Shouldn't be to long now...

Actually don't think I had an order number. I just emailed them, said how much, and paypaled it to them heh. I ordered mine Nov 26th.

Overall I'm very pleased with this TQ, it looks great and is performing well, despite UPS dropping it. Thankfully the damage was minor and Eren was great in dealing with me, not only through the whole process, but he really wanted to help me out.

Great guy, I'm definitely promoting them from this day forward.

Matt

Captain Matt Riggins
VATSIM Pilot, USA-W
Coral Airlines CORAL24
Pilot ID: 908853
Email matt@my737sim.com
Web: http://www.my737sim.com
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=106053044314

[fly_ebos]

hi Guys, since last Thursday I have my TQ Pro at home and I thought it's a good idea to share my experiences so far.

I originally ordered the TQ in September, due delivery at Lelystad beginning November. But after the many suggestions they got there, they gave me the option to wait for a revision, which I did. It has took them a little bit longer because many items where changed (eg aluminium inside mechanism, flaps, spoilers and levers) but it was definitely worth the wait. And then in December they told me they were working on a Pro version with auto spoiler, manual trim and a parking brake which springs back when you push the brakes, so I asked them if I could upgrade my TQ to a pro version. No problem, but just a little longer waiting.
But then Eren called me: Thomas, your TQ is ready! So there I was driving to Paris.

Left Brussels around 6AM in the morning and was driving under Charles de Gaulle runway (LFPG) around 8.45am, great view by the way. After a little traffic jam, I arrived at Erens place around 10AM. After many video skype sessions, I was anxious to finally see my TQ and the workshop in real life!

I was in for a big surprise: a beauty was awaiting me. This is not only a throttle, it is more, it is a piece of art  It really looks stunning, and the feeling you have when pushing forward the levers is awesome. Still now, sitting at my desk, I like to move them forward, backwards, reverse, just for the feeling (yeah you can call me a bit crazy )

After finalizing my TQ Pro, and lots of testing I was returning home around 5PM with my TQ in the boot and a little box with some surprises: a real Boeing 737 pin and 2 name tags to put on the side: "Capt Thomas".

The drive back was 3h but I must say it felt like 6. Got home, plugged in the TQ and was ready for some serious testing. Installation was not difficult, I got a pdf manual that takes you step by step through all the required actions. The 3 USB cables needed no drivers, auto recognition. Now I was ready to launch FS2004 and SIOC.
But then I ran into a little trouble: there were conflicting inputs when I pushed the levers forward and on after a reboot then it were the reverses who didn't work. So I hit up skype and called Eren and Oral and we had a crossloop session to figure out the issue. Finally we came to the conclusion that it had to be a Windows 7 issue because the TQ worked flawlessly in there workshop on XP. So i plugged in an old hard disk, put Windows XP back on and fired up FS and yeeeeeaaah it worked perfectly 

So my fellow colleague's, be aware that there is a compatibility problem with Windows 7!

Now I have been flying with it for 2 days and here are my findings: It has allready changed my way of flying big time! Watching the levers go to takeoff power in 5 sec (as in reality) is a beauty, watching them move in a synchronized way during flight is even better, but what is really exciting is when you put the wheels on the ground and pull the thrust reverse and then see the spoiler go down automatically. And as a bonus: go again to normal engines and give a bit of thrust and the spoilers come back to normal position 

But here comes the best part: the mechanical locks with the thrust reverse. Move the throttle out of idle and the reverses are blocked. When you have shut down one engine, and the fuel lever is in cutoff position, then the reverse of that engine is blocked as well, even in idle.

Oh one other recommendation I have to make: the TQ comes with bolt down features. It is recommended to bolt it down to your cockpit floor because you need some power to move those levers forward. It certainly has not a cheap joystick feeling where you can go full thrust with one finger

The guys at Revolution-Simproducts have made one hell of a TQ, but what really makes them special is the service they give. Any problem you have, just skype and they figure it out. All in all I am one really happy customer, and a happy customer always come back

Here are some pics:

http://picasaweb.google.be/thomas.billiouw/RevolutionSimproducts737TQPro#5428164589258316898

http://picasaweb.google.be/thomas.billiouw/RevolutionSimproducts737TQPro#5428164639448570722

http://picasaweb.google.be/thomas.billiouw/RevolutionSimproducts737TQPro#5428164530929661042

http://picasaweb.google.be/thomas.billiouw/RevolutionSimproducts737TQPro#5428164687241081250


enjoy your flights
Thomas

[Trevor Hale]

Thomas, what a wonderful review..  Thanks for the pictures and advice..  Sounds like a great product.   Most importantly, it sounds like 10000 times better quality then my FSC TQ.

Best regards, and happy landings.

Trev

[ivar hestnes]

WOW
Thanks for your nice review. Very good reading.

This looks like a serious piece of hardware. Very detailed. Scale looks perfect. Had to look several times at the speedbrake handle. Its like candy to me

I can understand why you are smiling on the photo. You have good reason to smile

Now we are hoping for a video 

Hopefully they will make it PM and win7 compatible also. By the way it looks, no one is even close to this machine.

[dnoize]

Thanks for the review Thomas.

Revolution Sim is honouring their name. This throttle is a real revolution compared to the competition and its also a great improvement over the first version.

Look forward for a test review in combination with flightdecksoftware and PM.

Get to work thomas :-)

Well done Rev Sim team !!

Thats Eren btw with the grin next to the throttle...not thomas  ;-)

Stef

[fly_ebos]

hi, thanks for the comments!
I would say, if your interested, head over to their site for a look

Stef's right, that is not me in the last picture, but Eren (the hardware specialist)

I made some video's this morning of an aborted takeoff run with TOGA and of a landing with the auto-spoiler

Revolution-Simproducts 737 TQ pro - demo of TOGA and aborted takeoff

[ivar hestnes]

Great video. It tells the story very good. Very good stuff. I am going for a bank tonight. Anyone joining? 

[phil744]

Great video. It tells the story very good. Very good stuff. I am going for a bank tonight. Anyone joining? 

Your having a what tonight?

[Bob Reed]

Great video. It tells the story very good. Very good stuff. I am going for a bank tonight. Anyone joining? 

Um..... Ya know, they put you in jail for that! 

[ivar hestnes]

PHIL:     BANK not w_nk you tit, lol

Rob, plunder, steal, get all their cash

[fly_ebos]

Oh goodie can I join?

I had to remove the landing video because I did not properly demonstrate the Speedbrake Arm function.
If I have the time, I'll make one tonight, otherwise in the next coming days.

Thomas

[ian@737ng.co.uk]

whatever is wrong with you lot.....
what ivar actually said was (quote):
"I am going for a bank tonight."  and  " Rob, plunder, steal, get all their cash"
he's going to rob a bank, whatever did you think he meant 
but fair play, Bob got the idea "Um..... Ya know, they put you in jail for that!"
hope he gets away with it then he can spoil us all with a cockpitbuilders.com
bash.  (sorry made me laugh this one).
have a great evening chaps.... ian

[ivar hestnes]

hehehe, good one Ian 

[fly_ebos]

Just shot 2 more videos this morning. The first one is a departure out of EBBR RWY02, climbing straight ahead to 2500ft and 230kts, when level a right turn. The second one is an ILS landing RWY25L, starting at 180kts and reducing to 135kts whilst bringing down the flaps. Upon main gear touchdown you can see the autospoiler deploying. At the very end I put the parking brake on and you can see why you have to bolt the TQ to the ground

One more thing: when the speed is reducing on the ILS, you see the throttle levers moving a lot. This happens because it is the PMDG logic driving the autothrottle and thus the TQ. I will test later with FlighDeckSoftware.

B737 takeoff demonstratation with Revolution-Simproducts TQ 737 Pro

B737 landing at EBBR with Revolution-Simproducts 737 TQ Pro

[Trevor Hale]

Looks like one heck of a neat product..  I would love to stand it next to my FSC TQ and see how it measures up.  I bet it was 100% worth the extra pennies.

Great stuff Thomas.

Trev

[ian@737ng.co.uk]

hello chaps......
i was in Paris, thursday with Eren at Revolution discussing some 'stuff' and i was looking at the construction of the New ProLine TQ.     have a look at these, shows the all aluminium construction.
very nice, feels so realistic in operation. 



and there's more     they have a couple of new 'projects' under development as well.


i got to see the new seat (IPECO type) which is still in the final stages of development.
going to be available in Grey Leather or with a sheepskin facia.   pricing i'm told will be
aggressive (i like that).
forgot to mention that the seat will be fully adjustable and have a metal frame.... no
plastic or MDF here chaps.......
but what really did it for me was the 'Auto Yoke System'.    This is only in prototype,
but how come nobody thought about this before.   there i am spellbound, watching the
yoke follow the inputs from the Autopilot.     again this is still in prototype and i'll go back
to Paris when they have a working dual 'pre-production' setup.
i won't say anything about Rudder Pedals because i only saw the parts 
great day out and pleasure to see some dedicated people looking at new products from
a different perspective.....
there's a couple of other photo's on my news page
have a great day chaps .....  ian

[Trevor Hale]

Looks Exciting Ian.

I would have to say that in Europe the ability to travel from country to country seems to be like going on a decent drive.  Glad you were able to bring these pictures to us.

Thanks a bunch.

Trev

[fly_ebos]

Trev, London to Paris, thats like Boston to NY, you can even take the train these days under the Channel.

[Trevor Hale]

Oh geeze..  that is really neat..  I guess some people like me don't realize how big Canada and the USA are when you compare them to small countries like those in europe. I mean, take for example, the entire population of Canada, lives in New York city. 

I was never a geography major LOL.

[Boeing Skunk Works]

Yep. A 50 minute flight from London to Paris. An hour at best.

Anywhere is Germany is no more than two hours from anywhere else. London to Munich in 2.2. Oktoberfest here I come!

[JWS]

hello chaps......
i was in Paris, thursday with Eren at Revolution discussing some 'stuff' and i was looking at the construction of the New ProLine TQ.     
and there's more     they have a couple of new 'projects' under development as well.
i got to see the new seat (IPECO type) which is still in the final stages of development.
going to be available in Grey Leather or with a sheepskin facia.   pricing i'm told will be
aggressive (i like that).
forgot to mention that the seat will be fully adjustable and have a metal frame.... no
plastic or MDF here chaps.......
but what really did it for me was the 'Auto Yoke System'.    This is only in prototype,
but how come nobody thought about this before.   there i am spellbound, watching the
yoke follow the inputs from the Autopilot.     again this is still in prototype and i'll go back
to Paris when they have a working dual 'pre-production' setup.
i won't say anything about Rudder Pedals because i only saw the parts 
great day out and pleasure to see some dedicated people looking at new products from
a different perspective.....
there's a couple of other photo's on my news page
have a great day chaps .....  ian

Hi Ian,

I understand that you have contributed to the new cables in my TQ. Thanks.

I guess you have not signed a nondisclosure agreement.

Regards,

JWS

[carlos hermida]

     So, finally after to many years waiting i have done my choice of TQ to use with my sim, only need to wait for the PM compatibility to order the PRO LINE TQ from Revolution Simproducts...thanks for the pics Ian and the videos fly_ebos !