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Title: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: ian@737ng.co.uk on November 16, 2009, 04:33:04 AM
hello chaps.......
just thought i'd let you know about these......
phil744 is making some real sweet DZUS fasteners. i managed to let him relieve me of some of my Lelystad spends by buying a few... now i've got them home and fitted them, i'm stunned and just ordered 50 more.   lovely quality......and not expensive either.
http://www.737ng.co.uk/dzus1.jpg (http://www.737ng.co.uk/dzus1.jpg)
http://www.737ng.co.uk/dzus2.jpg (http://www.737ng.co.uk/dzus2.jpg)
http://www.737ng.co.uk/dzus3.jpg (http://www.737ng.co.uk/dzus3.jpg)
www.simvionics.co.uk (http://www.simvionics.co.uk)
site is down for maintenance, but use the contact us page and ask for 'cheeky boy lambert'   ;D
regards to all ... ian
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Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Trevor Hale on November 16, 2009, 04:57:13 AM
 :rock: MINT!!  I love them.  Thanks for posting the pictures..  Its a good thing Phil had to twist your arm to take that money too..   :cheers:
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: ian@737ng.co.uk on November 16, 2009, 05:00:45 AM
oh, he didn't have to twist my arm trev.    once i saw them, i wanted to put money in his hand  ;D
best i've seen for the moeny believe me.
rgds ... ian
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Trevor Hale on November 16, 2009, 05:04:49 AM
No Doubt!  I have yet to see anything Phil has made, not bring a grown man to tears.. :)
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: ivar hestnes on November 16, 2009, 06:08:54 AM
I have a few bits and pieces from cheeky Phil in my setup. And for sure, it is no panels out there that match Phils work. I am sure a real pilot would not see the difference from a real one. Bet his Dzus replicas are just about the same quality :)

:)
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Efe on November 16, 2009, 07:35:46 AM
Quote from: ivar hestnes on November 16, 2009, 06:08:54 AM
I am sure a real pilot would not see the difference from a real one.

I'm sure we would have to chip, stain, scratch, etc. Phil's panels before we could convince pilots they were real. Unless of course we tell them its a brand new part. Otherwise, the ones in the actual planes are pretty beat down :D
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: nihad on November 16, 2009, 07:41:26 AM
I had to share a few pictures of a lovely panel I got from Phil and his work is really amazing and in my opinion
his panels look like the panels in a brand new plane if not better.

(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi194.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz21%2Fnihad_03%2Fb767-pan5.jpg&hash=4678370ed4688c4e1bc7b5ce7d74d5db2a4dee57)

(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi194.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz21%2Fnihad_03%2Fb767-pan4.jpg&hash=923097199a4312324a49d89bcefe04a1e8254896)

Nihad
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: dnoize on November 16, 2009, 08:21:12 AM
Even I have some of phils panels in my sim.....(shhhhtttt...dont tell anyone)...

i even upgraded some of phil panels with his newer version this fsweekend.

...and i have to say...great panels.....phil is dedicated to his work...a real perfectionist....

and we all benefit from that.....

Stef
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: jackpilot on November 16, 2009, 08:59:07 AM
Phil sent me some Dzus  too,  superb quality and it really looks like the real thing when the bolt is set in. have to count how many I need to place an order,
Go4it Guys!!
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Trevor Hale on November 16, 2009, 10:09:18 AM
Wow Stef..  That is one heck of a compliment..  To have some of Phil's Panels (We all know what they are like) in conjunction with Engravity stuff..  Great News!  Man it is stuff like that that make this hobby so great.  Nobody is too proud to admit when someone else does an amazing job.

Trev
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Hessel Oosten on November 16, 2009, 08:28:46 PM
phil744 is making some real sweet DZUS fasteners

And not only that ..... !!! :-)

Ian,

I try to make them myself, see below.
I also try to imitate Phil as close as possibe.... (isn't it Phil ?).
Even more "strange" ..., he stimulates it....:-).

Now seroius:

Are there also (realistic) springs in de "Phil-fasteners" ?
If that's the case I have to make that too ...

Another "problem"  I have, is that when the screw is tightened it's not automatic in the correct  position (vertical alligned with the DZUS rail). Someone idea's how to make that ?

Hessel
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: phil744 on November 16, 2009, 09:42:31 PM
 :o come on chaps your making me blush now.

Hehehe I wasnt planning on selling them by themselves, there a part that comes standard with the panels, but why the hell not eh? i need to get ones finger out and sort my website out.

But thank you for the compliments :)

Take it your happy with the map panels Stef ;)

Hessel, got your email also but have been very busy, sorry about that will reply later on tonight, the solution to your problem is simple, drill your Dzus 0.75mm deeper than what you would normally do, then place rubber (nitrile to be exact) "O" ring in there, the screw tightens up to the O-ring and the o-ring still has enough compression to allow you to turn the screw until the slots all allign up :) i have some over in the workshop, will dig them out tonight and get you a PN

Thanks again Chaps, now gotta make more Damn Dzus ;)
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: dnoize on November 16, 2009, 11:22:49 PM
Quote from: Trevor Hale on November 16, 2009, 10:09:18 AM
Wow Stef..  That is one heck of a compliment..  To have some of Phil's Panels (We all know what they are like) in conjunction with Engravity stuff..  Great News!  Man it is stuff like that that make this hobby so great.  Nobody is too proud to admit when someone else does an amazing job.

Trev


Being Part of a vendor doesnt mean i have to limit myself to that vendor.
I use Phils map light panels (Had his old version and got the new version last week.), Nihads oxygen panels and some of his knobs, Dave's Window handles, etc.

Ofcourse if Phil starts making other 737 panels i will have to kill him ;-)

Stef
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: dnoize on November 16, 2009, 11:23:51 PM
Quote from: phil744 on November 16, 2009, 09:42:31 PM

Take it your happy with the map panels Stef ;)


Love 'm

Stef
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: ian@737ng.co.uk on November 16, 2009, 11:40:10 PM
and i'm just a boy who can't say no as well......
i had the Mk 1 map/chart light switch panels, but when i saw Phil's new ones i just had to stuff euro's in rhys's hand and take a pair away with me  ;D   stunning quality........
just can't understand why somebody with this kind of talent keeps such a low profile  ;D
regards ... ian
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Hessel Oosten on November 17, 2009, 12:27:03 AM
Quote from: dnoize on November 16, 2009, 11:22:49 PM

Of course, if Phil starts making other 737 panels, I will have to kill him ;-)

Stef


What do you need Stef  :-) ;-) :-)

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Old-Cockpit-Rescue-Knife-RARE-ITEM-Aviation_W0QQitemZ120488334198QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item1c0daa1376 (http://cgi.ebay.ca/Old-Cockpit-Rescue-Knife-RARE-ITEM-Aviation_W0QQitemZ120488334198QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item1c0daa1376)

-:)

Hessel
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Trevor Hale on November 17, 2009, 01:00:19 AM
Hilarious..  All of you..  And Ian, perhaps you didn't read Stef's message..  If Phil starts making more stuff (and not hiding in the shadows) More people will attempt to kill him LOL.

Hessel, I think that will do the trick nicely.

Trev
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: dnoize on November 17, 2009, 01:24:37 AM
LOL @ Hessel

;-)

Stef
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: dnoize on November 17, 2009, 01:27:48 AM
Quote from: ian@737ng.co.uk on November 16, 2009, 11:40:10 PM
just can't understand why somebody with this kind of talent keeps such a low profile  ;D
regards ... ian

I cant either....but I'm glad his focus is on boeing brown and not boeing grey :-)


Stef
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: phil744 on November 17, 2009, 02:48:18 AM
 :huh: one moment your singing my praises, the next your trying to kill me, love it :)

hmm, real problem for me is the 737, if i make it im dead, if i dont im dead, one cant win lol, hmm neutral ground, maybe airbus???

Few reasons why i keep a low profile, im just a quiet chap, erm, want to make sure im happy 100% on anything i do sell and im snowed under as usual with orders and full time job on top, and if you know what im working on i would have to kill you all hahahah

But thanks again :)
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Trevor Hale on November 17, 2009, 02:58:34 AM
Phil, by the sounds of things it is like you are plugging the hole in the dam with your finger, and you know what will happen if you let go!  ROFL..

Regardless, I think it is safe to say we are all very happy with the work you do, wether you realize it or not.  Your 100% dedicated to this hobby, and you will be very successful.  I know that for sure.

Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Efe on November 17, 2009, 03:26:09 AM
Hey Phil,

When's the site going back up?
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Boeing Skunk Works on November 17, 2009, 03:49:10 AM
I hope you're working on what I think you're working on.  ;D This old Bendix unit looks like it's on it's last leg.
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: ian@737ng.co.uk on November 17, 2009, 04:22:45 AM
hi guys.......
i was talking to phil yesterday and what he's upto you'll never get.   i'm suprised nobody went there before  ;D  but, that's what covert operations are all about  ;D  ;D  ;D
i'd love to tell you, but sworn to secrecy and all that and if i tell you, he lives too close to me, so i might be the one who gets to sit on the knife  ;D
but, joking apart, i have to take my hat off to a very talented guy and a true gentleman who you just can't help but like.......  ;D
go for it phil, do what you do best, just stunning quality in every panel....
regards ... ian
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Trevor Hale on November 17, 2009, 04:30:19 AM
I second that motion Ian..  He really is all of that and a pint of beer all at the same time.
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: ian@737ng.co.uk on November 17, 2009, 04:42:53 AM
ok, i know i've said it before, but that's what i like about you trev, the thread always leads to beer  ;D
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Boeing Skunk Works on November 17, 2009, 04:54:12 AM
Who said Beer?

(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fll.broadbandsports.com%2Fimages%2Fhot_beer_girls400.jpg&hash=e2eaec04b8abcea286576f3e19a93f16f5837953)
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Trevor Hale on November 17, 2009, 05:59:01 AM
Drool..  Now thats some nice looking Beer :)

:cheers:
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Trevor Hale on November 17, 2009, 06:00:01 AM
Quote from: ian@737ng.co.uk on November 17, 2009, 04:42:53 AM
ok, i know i've said it before, but that's what i like about you trev, the thread always leads to beer  ;D

LOL, Other then Beer and Flight simulators, not in any particular order... whats left in life?  LOL
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: phil744 on November 17, 2009, 06:44:58 AM
Quote from: Boeing Skunk Works on November 17, 2009, 04:54:12 AM
Who said Beer?

(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fll.broadbandsports.com%2Fimages%2Fhot_beer_girls400.jpg&hash=e2eaec04b8abcea286576f3e19a93f16f5837953)

Beer? i cant see no beer, i was thinking milk from that picture  :P

Quote from: Trevor Hale on November 17, 2009, 02:58:34 AM
Phil, by the sounds of things it is like you are plugging the hole in the dam with your finger, and you know what will happen if you let go!  ROFL..


Trev, u hit the nail on the head there, but its not my finger im using, need those for the panels  ;)

Efe, another thing still on the "to do" list, every year after Lelystad i spend 2 weeks just stripping the machines (admits rather strip down the blonde on the right of the above pics) down, service clean and re build, at the moment the place is a bombsite, a couple of days and i will attack that, the I.T. monkeys managed to destroy it so its not just a case of uploading new products but a lot of behind the scene work to be done also.

Ian, you do live quite close to me, pop down for a brew one evening if you wish

Cheers guys ;)

Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: andarlite on November 17, 2009, 07:08:04 AM
Quote from: Trevor Hale on November 17, 2009, 06:00:01 AM

LOL, Other then Beer and Flight simulators, not in any particular order... whats left in life?  LOL

Hmmm, looking at that picture again, I can think of one or two things.  ;) ;D

And just to keep on topic, hey Phil, have you been working on expanding the 767 overhead panel line yet?

Regards,
Henry
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Trevor Hale on November 17, 2009, 07:12:03 AM
Touché
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: phil744 on November 17, 2009, 07:20:56 AM
Quote from: andarlite on November 17, 2009, 07:08:04 AM
Quote from: Trevor Hale on November 17, 2009, 06:00:01 AM

LOL, Other then Beer and Flight simulators, not in any particular order... whats left in life?  LOL

Hmmm, looking at that picture again, I can think of one or two things.  ;) ;D

And just to keep on topic, hey Phil, have you been working on expanding the 767 overhead panel line yet?

Regards,
Henry

Got the Ped and glare done, MIP in progress so can continue to upgrade the overhead now, hang in there ;)
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: andarlite on November 17, 2009, 09:40:44 AM
Quote from: phil744 on November 17, 2009, 07:20:56 AM
Got the Ped and glare done, MIP in progress so can continue to upgrade the overhead now, hang in there ;)

(https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi227.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd11%2Fandarlite%2FCockpit004.jpg&hash=eb969c4164f3ad0df19a55db370ed71c4f56b9d8)

They're hanging in there but getting mighty lonely.  :D

Regards,
Henry
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Trevor Hale on November 17, 2009, 09:53:58 AM
LOL Henry.. Looks awesome though.

Trev
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: jackpilot on November 18, 2009, 01:59:28 AM
hey Henry, nice visual, are you happy with it?... specs please?
Cheers
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: andarlite on November 18, 2009, 03:19:51 AM
Hi Jack

Yep, very happy with it. Matrox TH2G (digital) to 3 22inch LCD's, running at 5040x1050 (which means I can run these LCD's at their native resolution of 1680x1050). One thing to be beware of is that to run at 5040x1024 the LCD's must be able to handle a refresh rate of 57Hz ... some people have been caught on that.

I prefer LCD's over projectors due to the sharp and clear image that I can get (no disrespect to the guys running projectors ..... this is just my opinion). I will eventually start using Wideview and more LCD's to expand. I suppose one big knock against using multiple LCD's is all the borders you end up seeing, but after seeing Angus visuals, it is not a problem.... after a while you don't notice anymore.

Regards,
Henry
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Boeing Skunk Works on November 18, 2009, 04:05:23 AM
No, you really don't notice. The brain sort tunes them out.
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: ivar hestnes on November 18, 2009, 04:34:53 AM
Wish I had a few beers like that  :cheers:
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: jackpilot on November 18, 2009, 08:57:24 AM
After all the DC9 or MD-80 had this arrangement of front windows!

You mean that the monitors should be able to handle 57hz precisely or a minimum of 57 ?
Sorry if it is a dumb question! :idiot:
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: andarlite on November 18, 2009, 09:53:12 AM
They gotta be able to run at 57Hz. Check this thread for a list of monitors that are known not to work and those that do:

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14461 (http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14461)


Regards,
Henry
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: phil744 on November 29, 2009, 07:13:10 AM
Henry your parts are being shipped tomorrow mate :)

Okay, finally got around to getting the old website back up to speed, just need to make stuff to put up there, including the rest of the overhead for the 767, and some parts of a grey'ish colour  :idiot:

Dzus are up there also http://www.simvionics.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=25 (http://www.simvionics.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=25)

but if you do fancy some just put a note saying what aircraft there intended for so i can get the colour right, infact you can have any colour you like, bright pink if it floats your boat, you can even have the panels to match ;)

Have fun chaps
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Trevor Hale on November 29, 2009, 07:59:39 AM
Awesome Phil,

Great to know..  Your the best.

Trev
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: andarlite on November 29, 2009, 08:19:13 AM
Quote from: phil744 on November 29, 2009, 07:13:10 AM
Henry your parts are being shipped tomorrow mate :)

Okay, finally got around to getting the old website back up to speed, just need to make stuff to put up there, including the rest of the overhead for the 767, and some parts of a grey'ish colour  :idiot:

Dzus are up there also http://www.simvionics.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=25 (http://www.simvionics.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=25)

but if you do fancy some just put a note saying what aircraft there intended for so i can get the colour right, infact you can have any colour you like, bright pink if it floats your boat, you can even have the panels to match ;)

Have fun chaps

Thanks Phil.

Bu the way, I want to add a set of these DZUS fasteners to my order..... how do I do it without incurring the shipping charges again?


Regards,
Henry
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: phil744 on November 29, 2009, 08:24:07 AM
Send me an email bud
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: andarlite on November 29, 2009, 01:50:23 PM
Hey Phil, sent you a Paypal for it. Sorry I missed your call .... just as well as I probably wouldn't have understood your British accent anyway  :D :D :D  .... just kidding. Don't know why, but my wife said she couldn't make out what you were saying.....probably just our cheap phones.  :laugh:

Thanks a lot.


Regards,
Henry
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Atomic_Sheep on May 06, 2018, 08:58:21 PM
How good is this dzus solution? Sure they look convincing, but do you need to constantly re tighten the panel all the time?
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: bernard S on May 07, 2018, 06:48:14 AM
phil     does best stuff   period  end of story
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: jackpilot on May 07, 2018, 08:28:36 AM
Agreed...(for once  :D )
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: KyleH on May 07, 2018, 04:01:15 PM
Quote from: bernard S on May 07, 2018, 06:48:14 AM
phil     does best stuff   period  end of story

If you ever get it....
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: jackpilot on May 07, 2018, 05:10:12 PM

Never had any issue with Phil ...superior products and free shipping.
Good things take time ..sometimes :D

Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Atomic_Sheep on May 07, 2018, 06:27:13 PM
But does the screw come undone all the time and needs to be retightened? The original dzus, once you screw it down, it never comes undone, but a screw I imagine is a different story? No?
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Karl737 on May 07, 2018, 06:42:11 PM
 Replica Dzus with screws will be fine as long as you have a decent thread for them to go into so they can be tightened securely without stripping.

If you want to use real Dzus fasteners, you will need Dzus rails.

Karl
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: jackpilot on May 08, 2018, 04:08:10 AM
Repro Dzus also use M4 bolts that you secure with a retaining nut
http://www.ruscool.co.nz/dzus.html (http://www.ruscool.co.nz/dzus.html)
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Atomic_Sheep on May 09, 2018, 12:46:33 AM
Thanks.

EDIT: retaining nut might be a bit too finicky. You would need to pull apart half the simulator in that case! Don't think I like that idea. As for real dzus, I got a quote and it wasn't cheap. I haven't decided whether I'm going to splurge on this area of make do with fakies.
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: jackpilot on May 09, 2018, 04:05:20 PM
You do not have to make big decisions, it all depends on the way you build each component.
Real dzus rails and fasteners are the best way to go but not going that way is not the end of the world
It also depends on the kind od base you attach your panel to.
Wood structure, aluminum railing, real frames etc etc
:D
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: bernard S on May 09, 2018, 06:15:38 PM
my goodness  so much thought in here   .. if this causing you this much grief and this is one of the simpler things  you  will nevrr complete your sim ..i jest
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: ifeliciano on May 10, 2018, 06:11:57 AM
Quote from: bernard S on May 09, 2018, 06:15:38 PM
my goodness  so much thought in here   .. if this causing you this much grief and this is one of the simpler things  you  will nevrr complete your sim ..i jest

Agreed. If you have so much concern about screws backing out and having to re-tighten, get yourself some blue thread locker and put a drop on each DZUS screw before putting it in.
Personally, I don't think a reproduction DZUS fastener with an M4 screw, if tightened properly, will loosen up that easily on a static simulator cockpit.
Title: Re: DZUS Fasteners from Simvionics
Post by: Atomic_Sheep on August 22, 2018, 01:58:29 AM
Quote from: jackpilot on May 09, 2018, 04:05:20 PM
You do not have to make big decisions, it all depends on the way you build each component.
Real dzus rails and fasteners are the best way to go but not going that way is not the end of the world
It also depends on the kind od base you attach your panel to.
Wood structure, aluminum railing, real frames etc etc
:D

Yep, that's what I was trying to do, figure out how the whole thing was going to come together in the end.

Quote from: bernard S on May 09, 2018, 06:15:38 PM
my goodness  so much thought in here   .. if this causing you this much grief and this is one of the simpler things  you  will nevrr complete your sim ..i jest

Leave no stone unturned. But I agree, the expense is time. But you have to also like the final product. If everywhere you look when you fly is something that wasn't completed to your liking, sure you're flying but it won't be as enjoyable.

Quote from: ifeliciano on May 10, 2018, 06:11:57 AM
Quote from: bernard S on May 09, 2018, 06:15:38 PM
my goodness  so much thought in here   .. if this causing you this much grief and this is one of the simpler things  you  will nevrr complete your sim ..i jest

Agreed. If you have so much concern about screws backing out and having to re-tighten, get yourself some blue thread locker and put a drop on each DZUS screw before putting it in.
Personally, I don't think a reproduction DZUS fastener with an M4 screw, if tightened properly, will loosen up that easily on a static simulator cockpit.

That's another option, thanks for the suggestion.