Hi everybody.
I registered in this forum a while ago, but here's my first post. After a few years of research and thinking, I finally took the plunge and started building my 727 cockpit in January this year. Some of you may have seen what I'm up to in here (http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/showthread.php/24047-Norwegian-727-200-project)
Here's a picture of my newly refurbished and interfaced TQ
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My home made MIP. Lots of detailing to do yet.
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Here's my pit prior to deconstruction. I'ts in boxes at the moment due to a pending refurbishment project on the house. When that's done I'll start constructing a base and shell for it as well as a proper projection screen.
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So long!
Your project looks great! What flight model are you using? Is it Captain Sim B727 or other? Also, who did your gauges, wouldn't mind getting copies of those from you.
Looking forward to seeing your project get started again. Please keep posting about it once you do...
BSD
Hi BSD.
The flight model is the Dream fleet 727. I'm running fs9. The gauges are a mix of DF727, Richard Probst and Aerosim 727 guages displayed on a custom panel made in fs panel studio. Will post once there's progress to report.
Tor
Got the radios up and running the other night, as well powering up the TQ light plates.
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Still need to back light the radio panels. Progress is slow at the moment due to the house projects.
Hi again. I haven't been very active in this forum, so here's an overdue update on my project.
Over the summer I've been busy refurbishing the second floor of my house. The sim naturally had to be put aside for the duration, but it's finally coming back together in it's new dedicated sim room.
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I finally sourced some fire handles!
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My custom made annunciators are in place. These are clear plexi glass which I have painted black around the edges. Annunciators displayed on the LCD screens will light through the plexi glass and will hopefully resemble the real deal.
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The sim room is coming together as well! :)
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It's been a long day, I'll kick back with a glass of wine now! Cheers!
Looks really good :)
Thanks Ivar! :)
I've been working on the steering mechanism lately. After a few tweaks it works about right. I haven't done any interfacing yet though.
Probably not the most elaborate piece of engineering, but it's simple and it works. No spring return on the ailerons yet, but the gas struts centers the elevator nicely.
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Outstanding work there. Your instrument panel looks really good, sleek and uncluttered.
Thanks a lot Michael! Good to hear from you. Your posts and pictures on various forums have been more than helpful to me throughout my build. How's your project doing?
I'm going to start building my side walls soon, and I must admit I've had a good look at the pictures from your build! :)
Cheers
Tor
The window frames are taking shape. Lots of measurements, angles and sawdust to make that happen!!
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The curved wall is up. By far the most difficult part of the build thus far! 3 layers of paint, and I'm still not happy with the finish!
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The over head panel is back up! :)
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TQ in place
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an old 17" screen for INS, WX radar, etc.
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Been working on the side walls lately. It's going to take some filler and sanding before they're ready for paint!
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More of this beauty getting your cockpit, you're building real well same
One set of levers TQ and avionics, are even real. I really miss, this aircraft flew many horars them.
hug and good luck.
Thanks Aeroprado! :)
I finished the interfacing of my Yoke mechanism this evening. Calibrated it and did my first flight since the rebuild. Both Yokes and TQ works really well. Still a bit of tweaking needs to be done to the flap lever calibration, but everything else works perfectly! I have to get on with the side walls and ceiling now. Pictures to come soon.
Heres a new update.
Been busy interfacing and assingning axes and buttons so I haven't really been building much lately. At least it's flyable now! :)
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In this pic you can see the eyebrow window structure I struggled with last week! What a nightmare to make!
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The annunciators light up nicely through the plexi pieces I had made
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Got my oxy panels and my landing gear mechanism today.
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Can't believe how big this thing is!
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Been busy setting everything up and making it work lately. Big mistake, I don't get any building done now! :P
The warping is very temporary. Need to do it more accurate
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Only one projector for the visuals yet. Will probably stay that way for while too.
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My Ruscool radios work like a charm.
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Got the angeled panel with rotaries and switches hooked up the other day
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Haven't updated this thread in ages. Quite a lot has happened since the last update on here.
Got hold of a few map lights and had them mounted
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I finally got my pneumatic brake handle mounted to the MIP as well
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Hi everybody. Another update of my 727 pit.
I finally got my hand on some plastic wings for under the glare shield! :)
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Got one of these to!
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Mounted, but not hooked up to the outputs card yet.
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Here's a video I uploaded a little while ago while testing various outputs of my newly aquired outputs card.
727-200 Home cockpit. JFK Take-off, engine failure & landing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1VItauV9sw#)
Tor
Looks great!
What output card are you using and what voltages are you using for indicators?
I'm using an outputs card from Ruscool electronics. I use 24 V for all outputs.
Does that mean that you can use a 24vdc power supply with the Ruscool cards?
That would be a first and I will definitely be giving these output cards a look if that is so.
Yes, it handles 24V no problem. So does the OC card I think? Anyway, the Ruscool config software is very easy to work with, and they are very good at customising things to suit individual customers needs. Infact, they're updating the software as se speak to better fit the 727. They're a lot better at programing than I am, so that suits me fine! :) They custom made my radios as well. They offer them as 727 radios on their site now.
Hi all. No big things have happened to the sim lately, but I've spent many hours hooking up and configuring outputs lately. I've spent a lot of time flying the thing lately as well! Last night I made a bass shaker out of an old 15" speaker. I mounted it under the floor below the capt seat.
Gives some decent vibrations as I roar down the runway!
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Oh, and these are in the mail!
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Looking great man!
I was looking at your construction several post up on your sidewalls. I'll be using that same construction again. You really have to have that slanted diagonal support nearly to the rear of the flightdeck. It sets the angles for the #2 windows and the upper rail that it rides in when open.
I don't know why, but I don't see a lot of 737's with this feature. Maybe they changed the contruction or window support track over the decades.
I'm still working (or not working lately) on a few functions on the AP. I'm going to start cutting wood here shortly I hope. After I get all of the basic engine and flight control and AP working 100%.
Yes, they are ment to go in along with a few other details around the windows and side walls. I was just sick of building at the time, painted it and moved in! :)
I will start cutting wood again soon to make room for that FE station, so we'll see, maybe I'll get to some detailing then.
Looking forward to following your shell construction!
BTW, do you remember what offset you used for the starter switches? I use mouse macros, but I get that dreaded TSS sound issue at start up. :/
Cheers
Tor
I get that too unless the overhead start switches are used. Obviously, my overhead is not installed yet, so it does it every time for now.
I think I used 'Jet Starter 1', (2,3), but I can't be sure until I plug in Leo's card back into the computer and check the assignments. That might be awhile. For the fuel cut-off levers, 'Mixure Full Rich' and 'Mixture Full Lean' for each engine.
I'm not sure why the TSS module does that when usig the program overhead and doesn't when using the real overhead switches. I never figured that out, but I hate looking a gift horse in the mouth.
Thanks. The offset is "start switch position 1,2 & 3" or something to that effect. Couldn't find it in the FSUIPC drop down list, so I had to manually type it in with the proper parameters for on and off. Works great though, no more sound loop! 8)
I picked this up at the post office today. A complete FE AUX panel off e-bay! :)
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Too soon?
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The latest additions to the sim arrived today! I see some late Nights of soldering Ahead!
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Hi everybody! It's been a long time since the last update. Nothing much has happened in the sim either. Building wise that is, it has seen some flying. The work on the FE station has begun. The first 4 panels are interfaced and ready to go in. 29 panels to go! :)
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Hi all. It's been an eternity since I posted here, but i'm still here and the 727 is more complete than ever. It's now running with x-plane.
Here's two recent videos. The first one shows start up from cold & dark. The second one is my first attempt at editing multicam footsge. If you don't like music on videos, the don't watch the latter one. I get comments from people disliking music on cockpit videos. Well, I made the sim and I made the music, so I get to decide! 😎
Thanks for posting, Simply AMAZING, what more can you say.
Les
Now, is there anyone else building or going to build a B727 because this video shows how amazingly it can be done.
John
Great videos Tor!!! Your 727 Sim is quite an accomplishment! I wonder if in your next video, you could call out the Flow and Check List for how to fly the 727.
Nice looking visuals too. What kind of projectors are you using, and in what configuration?
Mike
Thanks for the nice words everyone.
The projectors are not fancy as all. I've got two Benq 611 and one 615 (If memory serves) not even 3 equal beamers! But they do a decent job. No HD or anything. I'm planning on doing some more videos soon. Just got a GoPro, so I'll fiddle about with it.
Cheers guys!
WOW! Love it.. Hard to do when your by yourself. But well done!
Thanks Trevor.
Yes she is a bit of a handful when alone. You have to amend the real life procedures a bit, but when you do she's no problem to handle. The FE operatons are mainly during start up and shut down. Kinda hard to start the APU while taxiing to the gate . lol
Another new video. Less music this time.
Innsbruck OPS
Wonderful Sim Project Olav! I have watched your videos several times, and it's impressive to see you so calmly manage that 727 Flight Deck on your own.
If you have time in your next video, please "talk us through" what you are doing in the Flight Deck. Great job, and keep up the good work!
My Sim Project is a 737, but your videos got me wondering what its like to fly a 727. I ran across a few videos on YouTube that cover Procedures, Flow and Checklists. I'm guessing that you are already expert in all this, but perhaps others following your thread might be interested in seeing real-world 727 operations in order to better understand what you are doing in the cockpit. Below are a couple of links...
727-100 Normal Procedures, Checklists, and Flows
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-fBQRKKTi4
LAS 727-200F Cockpit Flight out of Bogata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwvhpslsPzk
All the Best...
Mike
Hi Mike.
I might do a talk through video one day. I'm not strictly adhering to real procedures by a mile, so if I do I kind of give away my cheats. 😝 I do however do what's required to operate and fly the aircraft more or less correctly, but you have to leave some things out in order to fly the 72 single pilot. The FlyJsim flight model has simplified some systems because of this as well. I'm a seat of the pants kinda flyer anyway, so I pretty much do whatever needs to be done to get to where I need to go. I'm not big on procedures, check lists and flows. I'd probably make a terrible airline pilot! Lol. There's not much automation in this plane, so you have to be on top of things. Even on autopilot you have to fly the autopilot. No auto throttles, so speed control is manual, and you have to manually change between different modes. It'll hold your altitude and heading, but when it's time to intercept a VOR radial or a localizer beam, you have to switch it over. Glide slope intercept, same thing. And keep an eye on that airspeed, it'll stall and spin before you know it! It certainly keeps things fun and interesting though! You can't sit back and watch her fly herself. I usually handfly below 10000 feet. Thanks for the video links. I often search YouTube for 727 videos. 🙂