Well, it has been a long year of collecting and odds and ends work but finally ready to start posting progress of my new build. Inspired by the work of Rob Archer last February I embarked on a quest to build a 737-200 of my own based on the awesome FlyJSim 732, X-Plane, mostly real aircraft parts, and my FDS shell and liners. As part of this rebuild I also decided to pull out my pvc based yoke columns and replace with the real deal as well. I have many folks I need to thank that are making this possible by contributing in knowledge and/or parts and even some custom fabrication. Of course Rob Archer who is essentially my co-builder (we will have sister ships based 2 hrs apart in the US midwest). Roberto Blanco for my pedestal and some other hard to find parts along with some sketches from his real cockpit. James Price for supplying me with enough cannon plugs (which will all be re-pinned) to accomodate all my mip guages as well as some other key type specific panels and parts along with encouragement and wisdom. Michael Sherrick for his custom fabrication of parts for my yoke/column build and an awesome set of custom j-rails. Again, Michael provides great encouragement and ideas. Matt W for his pioneering work on real parts. Steve Cos for insights on using the FDS shell with real parts. And Last but not least all of you.
Here are some pictures of structural progress on various parts and my collection so far. Also a picture of the FDS shell top that had to be cut along with creation of a custom cover to accomodate a real overhead.
I will post more as I progress.
Scott
Scott,
It looks awesome and some work ahead. Should be very rewarding, nothing like
having to get your grey matter going. Looking forward to more and its great to see
you back up with us again.
Cheers
Les
Wow! Not much more to say about this. Can't wait to see the videos of it working!!
I have been looking forward to this phase since I talked Scott into this madness a year ago. :) With his visuals and shell this will be the true "As real as it gets 737 sim"
Can't wait for the online flying and Shared Cockpit flying, after many hours of phone calls and visits to come in the coming months. LOL
I applaud you Scott for overcoming the fears of this undertaking and being open minded to mine and others suggestions.
Rob
Happy New Year Scott.
Absolutely beautiful!
Surely you can squeeze in some Ultra Short throws? :laugh:
Nat
Quote from: Nat Crea on December 26, 2015, 06:22:01 PM
Happy New Year Scott.
Absolutely beautiful!
Surely you can squeeze in some Ultra Short throws? :laugh:
Nat
Judging by what I have heard the newer projectors really give great resolution and I would love to have them. My only issue is ceiling height. My basement ceiling is only 7.5ft and since I had to raise the whole sim an additional 5 inches to accomodate the yokes I lost that much more.
If I ever move it to a larger space will definitely give projectors a go again. And I would definitely pay Natvis to do the work!
Happy New Year Nat
Nice work there, Scott! Nothing like the real parts. I have been buying up real 757/767 parts for the better part of a year now, it's addictive. Nothing can compare to the look and feel of real yokes though, glad to see you made the switch!
Matt
Great job! Excellent!
Cheers
Hans
Thank you Scott.
Both Rob and you are our "pioneers" in Simbuilding! :D
Keep us up to date...
definitely worth a short hop to Chicago !
Looks awesome Scott . . will be watching for more updates!
Awesome Scott!
I guess you are going to start stocking up on Arduinos??
Are the A/P & F/D mode annunciator modules out of a Level D sim? They look to have the same markings as the AFDS units I got from a CAE sim.
Lots of fun ahead for you guys :)
Quote from: mickc on December 27, 2015, 02:24:29 PM
Awesome Scott!
I guess you are going to start stocking up on Arduinos??
Are the A/P & F/D mode annunciator modules out of a Level D sim? They look to have the same markings as the AFDS units I got from a CAE sim.
Lots of fun ahead for you guys :)
Mostly Teensys for interfacing. I have a ton of them along with breakout boards. Will likely be using OC Outputs boards and Sioc for Korries. I have four Outputs cards.
As for the AFDS units, they came out of a UPS plane.
Quote from: jackpilot on December 27, 2015, 05:10:25 AM
definitely worth a short hop to Chicago !
Always welcome Jack. Guessing it will be flying by March or April. Lot of wiring to get done now.
Scott
Wow!! Love the MIP. Keep posting photos from your project Scott.
Anders
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Scott
You're crazy man. :) A Lear 45 is a walk in the park by comparison.
Alan
Here is a video of the installed yoke, columns, crossover tubes and how I handled pitch tension and centering with bungees...
https://youtu.be/Znh0GGD8C0I (https://youtu.be/Znh0GGD8C0I)
And just for fun installed a stick shaker to try...
https://youtu.be/7waDy5cosgU (https://youtu.be/7waDy5cosgU)
Enjoy
Scott
Test fitting new floor, column covers, TQ and Pedestal...
Looks awesome Scott! Can't wait to come work on it and fly it.
Rob
Congratulations Scott on your speedy progress on the 737-200 project. It is amazing what you have accomplished in such a short period of time! Looks like you will be flying fairly soon. Keep up the good work!
Best wishes,
Mike
Ditto
:D
Nice build Scott . . like the stick shakers!
Progress..
Had electricians out to put in two dedicated 20 amp circuits with key lock switches (to keep safe from my kiddies). Also had a dedicated ground run installed so I can ensure proper grounding on all electrical equipment. Will be running many different voltages including 5vdc, 12 vdc, 28v dc, and 110 vac 400hz. Got to be safe! Installed a 19" rack to hold power supplies and audio gear. It will have a breaker panel with real ac breakers of varying capacities. Again...maximum safety. Rob coming over this weekend to help me start getting the avionics going. Hopefully will be up and running by summer.
Best regards,
Scott
keep pics coming....enjoyable
Jack
Impressive Scott!
X-Plane I hope :)
Nat
On vacation in Florida now (Sanibel Island) for the week. Before I left I finishe the columns and yoke interfacing and installed my custom j-rails from Mike. Got the seats reinstalled and started TQ and pedestal placement. Removed the motors from the Tq since the 732 has no Autothrottle and because they wouldn't fit the way they were into the 2 bay pedestal. Below are some progress pics.
Scott
Looks great Scott! This is going to be an over the top set-up!!! Enjoy your vacation. :cheers:
Rob
Time for a little update...
I took a trip over to Rob's house yesterday and we spent the day building up the synchro interfaces for my 732. These are needed to drive many of the gauges and just one of the many items on my to do list that can be checked off thanks to Rob. I am going to call Rob's sim 732-001 and mine 732-002. While at Robs I spent a little time in 732-001 which is just incredible. Did a takeoff and landing and otherwise just stared at all of the eye candy. Oh and his 4k displays are unbelievable...
Lots of fun....back to the work on 732-002....
Right now I can say the structural changes/upgrades to my sim are complete. The yokes and columns work perfect. I put the FDS rudders back in place and began work on modifying my TQ to remove the Throttle lever motors which arent necessary on a -200 (they didnt have autothrottle). The TQ set I then got to work on programming the first Teensy to handle the tq. I am happy to say that as of this afternoon 732-002 is now flyable!
Below are some pics of Rob and I working on the Synchros for 732-002 and the fruits of our labor.
Scott
Those sure are some sexy mechanical interfaces you got there! It was a fun day building. ;D
I just received my first Teensy's and I am loving them already. Already find myself hunting on the bay for some goodies to go with them! lol
Guys, if you don't stop posting about the 200 you run the
risk that I might end up joining the "200" club. Anyhow I am down for the NG to a 600.
As David Allen keeps telling me, another STC to be filled.... And we are good to go.
Keep the seminal work going and many thanks for sharing your journey.
Cheers
Luis
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I have been thinking about a 500.... Kind of the best of both worlds. We will see I am early enough in my build that I could do it. Would have to find a lot of parts. We will see.
Quote from: Bob Reed on April 12, 2016, 01:59:55 PM
I have been thinking about a 500.... Kind of the best of both worlds. We will see I am early enough in my build that I could do it. Would have to find a lot of parts. We will see.
Bob,
You can do that with PM, I did, remember? Use the 767 option in PM Other then AP annunciation it is really close.
Quote from: 727737Nut on April 12, 2016, 03:30:58 PM
Quote from: Bob Reed on April 12, 2016, 01:59:55 PM
I have been thinking about a 500.... Kind of the best of both worlds. We will see I am early enough in my build that I could do it. Would have to find a lot of parts. We will see.
Bob,
You can do that with PM, I did, remember? Use the 767 option in PM Other then AP annunciation it is really close.
I know and have a few analogs as well! I am thinking about it...
Time and space .......
Two things I wish I had. :laugh:
Great work Rob and Scott and keep up the good work on yours too Bob !
I have been swamped in my business lately and between that, three kids, and a great wife I'm sorely lacking in the time department. Looking forward to making more progress soon. Love to see others getting things done. Please keep adding pictures!!
Craig
Scott - Brilliant work. Credit to you!
Are you interfacing all the guages?
Thank you Geremy. All real gauges will be interfaced and the credit for thst goes entirely to Rob and a few other unsung heroes out there. I am just fortunate to have these folks as fellow builders willing to help. Everyone here adds something to this project and I could not do it without everyone else. Here is a little video I took while Rob was modifying a servoed altimeter of mine.
Best regards,
Scott
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb9fEGeZwp8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb9fEGeZwp8)
I have been on a slow boat this spring with my build but making a little progress here and there. I finished reintegrating my real TQ and rewiring / programming direct to x-plane via the teensy's and some custom breakout boards that rob designed.
I also just had a custom mounting plate made for my glareshield to house the flight director and autopilot modules. Below are some pics of how it turned out.
Scott
Impressive. How much of your cockpit is functional ?
Jim
Envious...
Quote from: navymustang on June 15, 2016, 04:23:32 AM
Impressive. How much of your cockpit is functional ?
Jim
At the moment, not much. All of the flight controls are working so in that regard it is flyable. I have spent most of this last year just refitting and collecting all I need including not only all the real guages and panels but also the proper powerr supplies, teensy cards, synchros, steppers and other items needed to put all together. Much of the work has been structural including raising the floor, putting in the real columns and yokes, cutting open the top of the FDS shell to accomdate the real overhead panel modules, and redoing my seat rails with custom parts from another member here on CB.
But that said, it was a ton of work and I have a ton to go. The great part now is that I am just about done with all the structural stuff, power, etc and now the real fun begins on wiring all the gauges in order of priority for flight. Rob has done all of the hard work in terms of figuring out the interfacing and writing the teensy sketches. I just have to wire and make slight mods to his sketches for my input and output numbering. A lot to do but the hard part is really done....just busy work.
More progress...
For my overhead I have a real frame and all real panels. The frame however is from a classic and therefor has a different lower light panel than the -200 mainly noticeable in the way the start switches are implemented. I have a reall -200 panel and also real Cole start switches. The start switches are also from a classic or new model. In order to make life simple I have opted to use the newer lower panel setup rather than staying completely true to the -200. That said, I needed a lower panel light plate because the one I have is for the -200 and doesnt match to my frame or start switches.
FDS came through for me supplying a lower light plate panel that with a few mods to the frame and the panel work out perfect (see picturea below). You can see how accurate the FDS panel is as even all the screw holes match up perfectly to the real frame! I also know from persoanl experience that the backlighting of their panels is exactly the same looking as the real deal and also a perfect match. Thank you Peter Cos! You guys are the best in the business hands down and great friends to this community of builders.
Thanks all for following,
Scott
Looking good Scott. Going to be nice to see her get in the air!
Thanks Bob
Pedestal back in today also
Well, here comes some big news. I am officially tabling this project and reversing course back to an NG. I know many will see me as crazy but actually I am not. I have many good reasons for this and will lay some of them out here. I am really torn actually between the two to the point that I called over a very good friend on Monday night who is also a fellow CB member, CPJ aka FirstInFlight. CP and I basically conducted sort of a SWOT analysis of the two options trying to remain as objective as possible and the NG build (or going back to the NG if you will..won the debate hands down). Granted, there are many opinions mixed into our results but they are informed and based on great experience.
So what sparked this? I had started working on my -200 again as summer is slowly coming to a close and while doing so I started messing with networked X-Plane and doing some flying again. There has always been an issue with weather and syncing of clouds in X-Plane that have been driving me nuts and Iwas hoping Skymaxx would resolve it. Well, no luck. Cloud syncing is horrible on networked visuals. i tried multiview with immersive desktop pro and while that resolves the cloud sync issues performance was just not good enough due to the massive amount card has to process with 3 views. i could only run two views with the demo and that was bad enough even using a GTX 1080 card. In other words, not a good solution. Then I asked a friend (someone well known in our community and an x-plane guru what he was doing...). He said that he had switched to P3D v3 and it was incredible. What? I had to see what he was talking about so I bought a copy and installed it...native. Setup a typical 4 view setup with three screens in surround on one computer and WOW. I was amazed at how good this thing looks and performs off one pc! And using my older 780 card no less. Not only that but weather syncing, water, seasons, and last but not least, testing the latest Prosim flight model on it just blew me away.
Now back to the -200. I am not a genious when it comes to hooking up the real parts to our sims. That genious comes from other pioneers like Rob and others who I wont name but are out there. Without them and their efforts and help there is no way I would have ever even tried to tackle the -200. rob has been awesome and I owe him a debt of gratitude for all his help. But alas, I like to truly understand and be able to handle the building myself and have had a really rough time wrapping my head around this project as it is truly massive. I dont understand electrical safety principles enough to feel safe in working with some of the foreign to me power like 400hz and such. Electronics is also not my strong suit. I can understand how to interface using products like OpenCockpits or FDS as well as Phidgets mainly because the hard work has been done by the software folks (ie. Tekworx, Prosim, Sim-A, etc). Working with real parts, synchros, pwm, steppers, etc is much more foriegn and has a learning curve to it). I simply dont have the right amount of time to commit to it. I am however very comfortable with using Prosim, Interfacit, etc so felt in our SWOT that It was much wiser to go with what I personally understand well and can troubleshoot when something goes wrong. Finally, if I am going to spend large amounts of time building I want to really love the end result and that includes the sim environment I fly in. The weather must look great. The water should look great. I should have seasons. I should have a wrapping view and immersion without compromising performance and frame rates. I should be able to run my visuals on one pc rather than 3 or 5. Afterall I am spending tons of money and time...
The real gauges of the -200 cannot be beat or compared to. They are awesome. If you ever get to see Rob's sim in person and in operation it is awe-inspiring. You will leave like Indid with a sense of "I have to have that". But unfortunately I also want the new found awesomeness I just experienced in P3D (bet some of you would never expect me to say x-plane has been beaten but I will...go ahead and flame me) and I cannot see a way or better to say I dont know how to get my -200 gauges to work in P3D like I could with Rob's help in XP. So i go back to what I know best...the NG and Prosim. These two are an awesome combination that is frankly hard to beat for me personally.
So the -200 may go for sale. I can tell you thatbwhat I have would be verybdifficult tonpu together today and I dont intend to let it go cheaply. The right buyer will understand.
For now, I am starting a new direction and will post new pictures in another thread. The NG will still have a real overhead with real panels for the most part. I intend to use the real Korrys at 28 vdc in all their glory. I may compromise with the meters and use the old school ones. The -200 mip will be used but with an NG face. I intend to use my real -300 glare but remake it into an NG using the authentic 6paks and Master Caution/Fire warning indicator switches. So some old some new. The rest of the cockpit doesnt change.
Well, thats all for now. If anyone has serious interest in building a -200 and wants a complete setup to get started send me a message. Be prepared to cough up some dough but it will be worth it if you really want to pursue as I have pretty much evry gauge and panel neccessary. I also have the ever important and ellusive 400hz 500 watt power supply required for this beast. You wont find one anywhere.
Best regards,
Scott
Dear Scott, looks like an incredible decision but guess what, you are not alone.
Had a similar issue with xplane and decided to go back to P3D Prof.Plus and on top Peter Co's delivered the new FDS Internet radios and ProSim737 is the appropriate software for me.
Interesting enough, I had a long conversation with one of the guru's of our hobby, David Allen and he convince me to use FDS plus all my original Korry's and switches. BTW, he is interested in building a 200.
So, it is not unusual to switch plans, in particular, if you want to fly in this lifetime.
Cheers
Luis
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Thank you Luis
Sh...was such a good reason to fly-in!
But I can understand the facts
My sim is now inop as I prepare for a major overhaul too
Leaving dear old PM /fs9/XP on 5 PCs for a more up to date setup with the latest MCP/CDU hardware
With a bit of apprehension as I feel I could "repair" any glitch with my old setup and having to adapt to new softs and realities...
Anyway all the way with you whatever you build
:D
Jack
Quote from: jackpilot on September 01, 2016, 07:19:36 PM
Sh...was such a good reason to fly-in!
But I can understand the facts
My sim is now inop as I prepare for a major overhaul too
Leaving dear old PM /fs9/XP on 5 PCs for a more up to date setup with the latest MCP/CDU hardware
With a bit of apprehension as I feel I could "repair" any glitch with my old setup and having to adapt to new softs and realities...
Anyway all the way with you whatever you build
:D
Jack
Thank you Jack. You are the quintessiantial fs9 holdout. You really got mre mileage out of a platform than anyone in its history. Bravo. Nice to see you are still at it and going to upgrade. When done I wish to visit. Long overdue!
Best regards,
Scott
Hi Scott,
That surely is a major decision - especially after all the hard work you did sourcing the -200 parts and putting together that beautiful flight deck. But as they say... "The last 10% of the project is 90% of the work." This certainly holds true for a lot of things - Sim construction as well.
From what you described, you have done your best to sort out the issues. It takes a wise man to discern when to call a halt to a project, re-asses things, and move on. Your decision to go with ProSim and P3D sounds like a good one, since you are able to quickly get these systems up and running quickly. Even though you have sold a lot of your previous gear, you are going to have a great deal of fun putting together a new system that will no doubt out perform your previous Sim efforts.
Best wishes on the new project. It's going to be fun to see your progress develop. We are all rooting for you.
Mike
Scott, I know how you feel. I too switched back from X-Plane, not by choice. I can not find a 737 you can remove the stock autopilot from. When I would try and use PM the APs would fight for control of the aircraft and you would crash. I fought with it and fought with it. I switched back to FSX and was in the air and flying in less then a couple hours. So I left XP behind reluctantly. Anyway good luck with your new build....
Quote from: XOrionFE on September 01, 2016, 07:42:48 PM
Quote from: jackpilot on September 01, 2016, 07:19:36 PM
Sh...was such a good reason to fly-in!
But I can understand the facts
My sim is now inop as I prepare for a major overhaul too
Leaving dear old PM /fs9/XP on 5 PCs for a more up to date setup with the latest MCP/CDU hardware
With a bit of apprehension as I feel I could "repair" any glitch with my old setup and having to adapt to new softs and realities...
Anyway all the way with you whatever you build
:D
Jack
Thank you Jack. You are the quintessiantial fs9 holdout. You really got mre mileage out of a platform than anyone in its history. Bravo. Nice to see you are still at it and going to upgrade. When done I wish to visit. Long overdue!
Best regards,
Scott
I'm still running my 767 on FS9... when I feel I am ready to turn my life upside down I will be switching to P3D... ;D
I did just add an FDS 747 CDU to my setup and am in love with it.
Shame to see your 732 go by the wayside Scott, it was a beautiful pit, but I understand the reasons. You wouldn't have a power supply you won't need any longer that you want to get rid of, would you? I need one for my gauges...
Best,
Matt
Hello Matt,
Yes, I do have a 400hz AC power supply I am selling. It is an APC AFC-500W. It is on ebay right now. Start bid at $750 with a buy it now of $1000. It weighs about 110 lbs so buyer pays shipping.
Not sure if that is the type you need but many gauges require this tyoe of power. I am keeping my other power supplys for the NG rebuild.
Best regards,
scott
And so I lied......
The -200 is still alive.
I won't elaborate right now because if I change my mind again I don't want everyone thinking am a nutball but a few of my most important peers (personal sounding boards...) know the score. Suffice it to say the Chicago -200 is still alive.
Scott
:cheers:
Your my idol Scott! Hehe
Every night before i go to bed i am thinking of building a -300 or a -800 so i completely understand the switching!
My plan if i would go the -300 is to replace the motors in the analog gauges. The amazing caravelle project was done this way. I would also never have the guts to use more than 28v, my skills in electronic sucks and it is thanks to rob i understand the little i do.
Been looking for the 737-300 mip panel on ebay all day long...
Right now i am short of cash though, but i need new parts soon as my panel interface is moving along well.
Keep posting, always fun to follow your build!
/Peter
Scott, you keep me motivated.
I was back in the US for about ten days taking care of some things (including a chance to get out to SC and watch my daughter graduate Basic) and I sat in the garage for a while staring at the pile of boxes against the wall that hold my sim. Still crated up. I have no idea when I'm going to be able to realistically put it back together. It was kind of disheartening.
After reading your post though, I am renergized. Thanks! I still need get out to Chicago to see you.
Warren
Quote from: fsaviator on October 08, 2016, 08:05:59 PM
Scott, you keep me motivated.
I was back in the US for about ten days taking care of some things (including a chance to get out to SC and watch my daughter graduate Basic) and I sat in the garage for a while staring at the pile of boxes against the wall that hold my sim. Still crated up. I have no idea when I'm going to be able to realistically put it back together. It was kind of disheartening.
After reading your post though, I am renergized. Thanks! I still need get out to Chicago to see you.
Warren
Thank you Warren and also thank you for everything else you do.
Would love to have you by some day. If ever passing through Chicago you have to let me get you out here and do some flying and grab some beer and grub.
Best regards,
Scott
Hey Warren... I second your praise of Scott's efforts. If you ever find yourself in Chicago land, definitely take advantage of Scott's invite to see and fly his Sim - you will be inspired by what he has done with his Sim project. Scott is one of those unique people that has the ability to focus on a project and make it happen. He is a pretty remarkable guy, with a diverse range of skills - an ongoing inspiration for most of us.
Not to be too philosophical.... I think I speak for most full-scale Sim'rs, that it is sometimes difficult to see your way to a finished Sim project. This is mainly due to the nature of what seems like a never ending application of our own ideas on what a Sim should look like, how it should be constructed, and how it should perform. Not to mention the continued desire to tweak and improve on what we have completed. And just when we think we get it figured out, in come new issues and opportunities in life to complicate matters. Getting from A to B is always a challenge... In essence, for most folks, a Sim project is never truly completed - it is in reality more of work-in-progress that yields some measure of joy and satisfaction that hopefully is in balance with other aspects and dynamics that fill our life.
Indeed, in the reality of life, we may find our Sims broken down and packed away, awaiting a time when we can "get back to the project". Or the Sim project that worked great yesterday, and now nothing seems to function correctly. This can lead to a sense of frustration as we look around and ponder our passions against our responsibilities and consider exactly what is important in life, and deeply consider what we are doing in life. This tends to strike us on occasion and bring us to our knees, where we consider chasing one quest after another, and the dilemmas that typically follow - only for us to latch onto another quest.
As related to our Sim projects, this is especially true when we look around at a project that is scattered around the house in various stages of operation, or boxed up due to circumstances. Working on these full-scale Sims is a major effort, and it can consume one's life if not careful. There is a time and season for everything, and the challenge of building a Sim project, or getting back into our Sim projects is no different. How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time - all in balance with a healthy diet for the things in our life.
As a gesture of affirmation to you... Take great joy and satisfaction is what has been given to you - for it is the little moments that are the most meaningful - like being there for your daughter's graduation. These are truly the big things in life. Don't be disheartened, the Sim will happen when it happens...
Likewise... If you and/or your family ever find yourself in Las Cruces, NM, you are always welcome to stop by for a visit and fly my Sim. It would be great to visit with you.
All the Best,
Mike
That's great to hear (about sticking with the -200). I am about to tackle a DC-9 cockpit I just obtained. I'll be following as I try to integrate as much of the original cockpit as possible into a flyable machine.
Did you get the collimated display with it ?
Jack
Jim looks like an old delta sim to me ..If this is the case then you lucked out ???? and I won't tell the source lol ..like i said if this the case.. then do not tear into it and start ripping out wires etc to make funxtion with fsx etc.. .. there is no need..the control loading is already in place the work is already done for you why reinvent the wheel , i assume you nabbed one with motion ? if so its a 1k solution to get operational yeap that not a,typo the cards although old can still be repaired .. just get some guru to do a interface to whatever out the window view you want ..to read your up down left right faster slower and stop and your done ..fastest build in history also the cheapest lol
Bernard,
Yep, it is a Delta sim, got it for a steal. No motion, though. I don't intend to do a lot of ripping stuff out of the dash, but this will be my first time attempting to work with avionics/instruments like this (my previous sim was a 737ng). If anyone can point to resources to help will be most appreciated. I expect a lot of trial-and-error.
Jim,
Hope this helps for your DC-9 sim,, I contacted them. It they told me "just to figure it out" but hopefully they will be helpful to you . Guess because I didn't have a real cockpit like them. Haha. http://www.dc-9.eu/en/ (http://www.dc-9.eu/en/) And yes I totally have DC-9 sim envy right now. Nice to see another MD/DC guy on this site. Have a home made DC-9 cockpit, but it's my slice of heaven. Coolsky DC-9 is the best program out there for realism and homebuild integration.
Best of luck!
Mike
Ps I have lots of family in Wisconsin I would love to see that some day, I'm in southern Illinois.
Jim I think perhaps and this is my take. so don't get vexed at me they and the whole sim are already 100 percent operational .. you got the racks right ?..by racks you got the FMC etc if this the case just add power ..via a 240 volt frequency converter ... if you start taking out wires,and stuff you are heading for huge huge did I say huge monumental problems.. your little project now exceeds most on here... its,really simple bud .. stop thinking fsx xplane etc ..you now how to change your entire thought process to how does aircraft work,buses etc ..you are now in big leagues lol...my suggestion as first job.... figure out the power and light her up ! in closing remove wires and you are doomed ..in short what you have is,stand alone sim only thing you need figure out is how to get out the window view to function with your flight controls
Nice discussion guys....now can I have my build thread back? :huh:
Here are some updates on my build. Last weekend I finished wiring up thr "T" of the overhead with two Teency LCs and Rob's custum breakout cards. I also began running wiring harnesses down each side for each module to supply 28vdc, 5vdc (dim-able backlighting), and ground on 3 pin molex connectors. Each module will have its own Teensy with a couple of the smaller modules sharing one. Fun stuff. I am running local fuse protection for each run and they go back to busses in the rear wall of the sim. Those busses are wired back to my rack with 12 gauge runs and all color coded and on real aircraft circuit breakers. Here are a bunch of pics.
Scott
very cool build..here's your thread back lol..my bad
Hi Scott,
Very impressive work thus far. You really have done a nice job of wiring up the instrumentation! Those "red" circuit boards... Did you custom make them? Keep up the good work.
Mike
I apologize for the thread hijack. Once I get the sim moved to my garage and have questions (of which there will be many) and other stuff to add, I'll start a new thread.
The auction people are very much "figure it out", and I do not doubt people will give up on getting their sim out of there because of the ridiculous logistics involved and tight timeline. The building in question is being demolished in a week and a half, yet they won't let us do the required work on the exterior of the building to actually remove the sim until next week...none of this was disclosed up-front, either.
The racks, computers, power equipment, etc... did not come with the sim. The auction company doesn't know anything about this stuff and sold it all separately because it was in a different room. With that, the internal wiring in the cockpit will remain in place, but the wiring from the sim to the building has already been severed. There are people who have already responded who are way more advanced than I am. I thought I was going to go flight control by flight control switch by switch, and gauge by gauge and interface into FSX/P3D. (That's why I commented in this thread). It sounds like that might not be the best option, though, and I am all ears if anyone who knows better has tips or suggestions. Although the power has been cut, I'm certainly not 'gutting' anything and can easily tie into a 240v power source. I am getting the impression that this may be more "plug and play" to some degree than I realize. Boy, am I an amateur!
Beautiful work Scott :cheers:
Nat
Wow! I will steele lot of stuff from this setup, looks really nice and clean!
By the way, do you or Rob have any of those BOB to sell?
Quote from: kurt-olsson on October 21, 2016, 09:19:29 AM
By the way, do you or Rob have any of those BOB to sell?
The ones I have I will likely use and I know Rob is out of them. That said I am sure he can place another order. I think he may be planning some enhancements to it though before he orders another batch. You may want to message him directly.
Thank you for the comments,
Scott
Cool, i will send him a pm, thanks.
Overhead Busses complete and overhead reinstalled in Cockpit. T (center and lower portions) is all working now. Time to start the individual modules one by one. These should go quick now.
Scott
Hooooly *bad word*
This can be the finest home cockpit i have ever seen!
Very nice groundwork with the busses, cant belive you got it up this quick.
It took two nights for me just to identify the pins for the engine anti-ice.
Keep posting, and i would love a video of just filming around and showing the cockpit from all angles.
Hi Scott,
Great work on your system wiring! We can all be inspired by your expertise. The cockpit photo is quite impressive. Looking forward to flying your Sim someday soon. Keep up the good work!
If possible... Post some detailed photo closeups of your MIP and other cockpit details. Thanks.
Mike
I have created a walk-through video of the cockpit in its current state that shows a lot of the details.
Enjoy
Scott
https://youtu.be/v2Vx_mZJjUo (https://youtu.be/v2Vx_mZJjUo)
Excellent, Scott!
Thanks for giving us an in-depth view of your sim! 8)
Keep up your great work!
Cheers
Hans
Thanks for the video!!!
Hi Scott,
That's a wonderful video, and you have done a great job of showing the detail of your Sim setup. Your attention to detail with respect to interfacing the various systems is admirable. Congratulations on the clean wiring job. Looking forward to seeing your project in person.
Mike
Where canbi buy those awesome power buses? The one hou use with plastic cover.
Great video Scott.
Found myself watching this today at lunch and I was glued to the monitor. Nicely Done.
I love your tv screens. And the fact you can move them out of the way is even better for working on the project.
Awesome.
Quote from: Trevor Hale on November 01, 2016, 01:41:20 PM
Great video Scott.
Found myself watching this today at lunch and I was glued to the monitor. Nicely Done.
I love your tv screens. And the fact you can move them out of the way is even better for working on the project.
Awesome.
Thank you Trevor. They work out nice for my space though I would love to see one of Nat's projection setups....on second thought maybe better I dont....might cause me to tear out my ceiling next...lol
Glad you like the video
Quote from: kurt-olsson on November 01, 2016, 12:27:34 PM
Where canbi buy those awesome power buses? The one hou use with plastic cover.
Just google "Blue Sea Busbar" and you will see a bunch of sources of them. They are not cheap but I think worth it. Very nice.
QuoteI would love to see one of Nat's projection setups....on second thought maybe better I dont....might cause me to tear out my ceiling next...lol
You should send me your room dimensions just to make sure its not possible :)
Nat
Scott
Very impressive for sure. It is amazing what you have accomplished within what looks like a constrained space area!
Thanks for posting the very informative video!
Fred K
@ Nat and Fred
The room footprint for the shell and rack portion is 12ft (3.65m) by 14ft (4.26m). There is about another 6ft on the front side of the rack for walking around and to access another storage closet. The shell is sitting with the front to back in the 12 ft space so basically sideways in the room which allows the power rack and computers to be on the side and closer to the nose. I used to have a 12ft diameter curved screen with 3 projectors and they fit fine but barely due to room height. The ceiling for the most part is 89"(226cm) but there is a soffit for the heating ductwork that is in the way and only 80"(203cm) of height under it. My old projectors had the lenses just under that soffit and the image only had like a 2 inch drop from center of lenses so barely worked fr a 210 degree wrap around setup with image height of 48in(221cm).
Problem now is that I had to raise the floor to fit the yokes and I am 10 cm higher then it used to be.
What I need is mini projectors!
Yep ceiling is a killer...maybe projectors that have x-ray vision?!
Nat
Hows it going? Are you working on some gauges or switches? :)
Hi Kurt,
The -200 project is on hold...
I am not happy with X-Plane 11 and was hoping for a much better new version than what I am seeing. On the other hand, Prepar3d with AS16, REX, and ORBX is the bomb. There is almost no way to build a -200 in Prepar3d without a lot of programming requiements being developed. I looked at the Milvis -200 and was not impressed. Capt Sim is also a bust as far as I am concerned. To continue the -200 really requires X-Plane as the base. So for now I am shelving the -200 and switching back to an NG running on Prepar3d for my main ride. Once that is complete I may continue working on the -200 mip and gauges as a side project with X-Plane when XP11 is much more further developed.
A new FDS MIP has been ordered and right now I am running using the -200 mip with NG front panels. Actually completed a full flight from KABQ to KDEN last night on pilot edge with fellow builder CP (aka FirstInFlight). We had a blast.
Scott
Cool. Great to hear an update from you, really nice to run two sims. :) I am also "in the middle" due to addons. I know that i want to use x-plane and wish that the ixeg 737 was a 800, then it would be my final setup. But i am using x737 untill pmdg comes along.
Happy flying! :)
Been a while so thought I would update. Looks like I will end up with two sims. Its the only way I will ultimately be happy. My FDS mip will come in April. As I await it I continue to work on my 732. But I have some news in that front. I decided to upgrade my computer's motherboard, cpu, and memory to see if I could get more frames out of XP11 and the investment paid off. With an i7700, 32 gig DDR4 memory, SSDs and the 1080 gtx card I am able to get very good results running all 3 60" screens at 1080 with 3 view points (which is essentlially like running three instances of XP on one machine. With that working and combining with the use of ortho scenery X-Plane is really looking and flying fantastic now.
So, with al the electrical bus planning and work wiring behind me it makes the most sense to complete the -200 right where it is at in my FDS shell. I will likely setup my FDS Mip and Prosim as a separate sim all together.
The -200 is coming along. With the help of Rob and another friend I have the TQ all programmed using Teensy. In addition, my APU panel and the "T" on the overhead are complete as well as the landing gear panel. Next is the Bleed air panel which I will tackle next weekend.
Some more pics
Looks great Scott. With the help of Trevor I have started messing with Arduino. We will see where that leads.. lol
Thanks for the update!
I will also interface the bleed panel in short period of time. :)
Freaking awesome Scott!
Nat
Been a while since I posted any updates. Well the latest news is that I have made a change and decided to build the -300 instead of the -200. The IXEG is a phenominal aircraft model and well, I have come to start liking the idea of striking the perfect balanace between the old and the new. I still get my steam gauges and that old school feel along with OEM ambiance but at the same time modern amenities like a working FMS and if wanted, full vnav, lnav with autothrottle. Finally, since Rob has much the same (almost sister ships...) I can leverage his code much easier without having to convert all the datarefs.
So here is a picture or two of the current flightdeck. Engine gauges will be working very soon and will post a video when done.
Many thanks to the following contributors for their assistance in making this latest change possible: Jorg (Yoda), Rob, SBD3Dauntless (for supplying the magic pri eng panel..), and Phil for the -300 pedestal. Also would like to thank all the other forum members who helped in looking for the panel and pedestal I needed including Jack, Steve Cos, and Jim.
Best,
Scott
Fabulous looking flight deck. Much more intimidating than modern day NGs. :)
What a beautiful cockpit!!
Franck
Thank you all.
Here are some pics of the primary engine display panel wiring and interface. The red board you see is a custom breakout board Rob designed for the Teensies. There is a ULN2803 circuit installed (board can accomodate 2) that essentially acts the same as having 8 relays for the korries. Same concept and chipset I believe as the Opencockpits Outputs card. The daughterboard you see pictured is for adding some caps and resistors inline for the N1 & N2 guages to " trick" them into working (dont ask me...this is where Rob's circuit genious comes in).
Enjoy
Scott
Hi Scott,
great flightdeck, good job! 8)
How did you fix the cables in the cannon plugs? Or is the cable diameter fixing itself?
Cheers
Hans
Quote from: B747-400 on August 22, 2017, 12:11:42 AM
Hi Scott,
great flightdeck, good job! 8)
How did you fix the cables in the cannon plugs? Or is the cable diameter fixing itself?
Cheers
Hans
Hello Hans,
I use the required Crimpers, pinning and de-pinning tools shown here. You also need to buy pins which can be pricey. I purchased all on ebay.
I am using 22 awg wire from Allspectrum Electronics (www.allspectrum.com (http://www.allspectrum.com)).
Scott
Hello Scott,
ah, could not see them on the picture.
Thanks for info and shots.
Cheers
Hans
Made some progress....its breathing!
I hope to have up and running tomorrow!
Scott
That OEM gear looks absolutely beautiful. Wishing you all the best in your project.
Out of this world!! Amazing project :)
Amazing sim indeed!
Seeing an OEM Panel being brought back back to life is immensely satisfying! :)
Primary Engine gauges up and running!
https://youtu.be/wYPAZRyWO4o (https://youtu.be/wYPAZRyWO4o)
Amazing work, Scott.
I just can't get over how far you've come with this. I look forward to the next video
-Warren
Wow Scott. This is absolutely amazing. I just love how you interfaced the real guages.
Br,
Anders
Skickat från min SM-G955F via Tapatalk
Rob was over all day today and we worked diligently to build out my stepper to synchro interfaces which control many of the flight instrument. ADI Pitch and roll complete along with HSI Compas card. We also kicked off the beginning of fall season enjoying some Sam Adams Octoberfest beer while we wired and tested and tested and wired. Did I mention that we did a lot of wiring? Lol...
Good for you guys!
Keep on posting !
:D
Ok, here it is...
Bleed Air panel - up and fully functional except for packs gauge (which will require some synchro work..)
Capt ADI - Pitch and Roll complete (FO will be cake as it jus copies signals)
Capt HSI - Compass Card running (again FO will basically "Y" off and use same signal.
Video Here
https://youtu.be/lP5thad7CgI (https://youtu.be/lP5thad7CgI)
Quote from: XOrionFE on September 11, 2017, 07:19:45 PM
Ok, here it is...
Bleed Air panel - up and fully functional except for packs gauge (which will require some synchro work..)
Capt ADI - Pitch and Roll complete (FO will be cake as it jus copies signals)
Capt HSI - Compass Card running (again FO will basically "Y" off and use same signal.
Video Here
https://youtu.be/lP5thad7CgI (https://youtu.be/lP5thad7CgI)
Yes I have a bleed air gauge as well. I need to do some sychro work myself. I will be watching!
Hi Scott (and Rob... :) ),
Four words on your simulator:
Wow!
Amazing!
Thank You!
Seeing what you guys have accomplished with your ADI and HSI inspired me to bump my ERJ135 stand-by instruments up a couple of spots on my list of things to get done! Fair warning: may (WILL!) have to pick your brains on how to do them!
Thanks for sharing, and congrats on such unbelievable progress!
Marco
Real 737 Instruments and Samuel Adam's...Heaven :love
Quote from: Nat Crea on September 12, 2017, 02:24:12 PM
Real and instruments and Samuel Adam's...Heaven :love
All its missing is a beautiful Natvis display setup :(
Standby ADI Up and running!
Video:
https://youtu.be/G-LxRq3bBDQ (https://youtu.be/G-LxRq3bBDQ)
Very nice! I have a couple of those servos! lol
Quote from: Bob Reed on September 23, 2017, 10:48:42 AM
Very nice! I have a couple of those servos! lol
Got a good deal on them with a free programmer....couldnt resist
New Update:
Airspeed Gauges, Altimeters, and Clocks working.
Rob came out yesterday and we made some great progress.
https://youtu.be/yyyWmJfrRwk (https://youtu.be/yyyWmJfrRwk)
Couldnt get much better, Pizza, Beer, Sim ;D
Well looks like you are flying it now! That has to be a milestone! Nice job you guy!
Quote from: Bob Reed on November 04, 2017, 07:43:48 PM
Well looks like you are flying it now! That has to be a milestone! Nice job you guy!
Yes, truly a milestone Bob. I had been flying around with Xplane data onscreen so I could see various pieces of flight data. The last piece was airspeed and now with my aispeed gauges working I can pull that off the screen. In P-3s early 90's we flew with steam gauges. I got my PPL and initial instrument trining on steam gauges (172R) only later learning to fly the G1000 equipped 172 SPs. I love the steam gauges and the traditional 6pak. I am in heaven with the -300 and these Operational OEM gauges. When the going gets tough and something is not working I always tell Rob I am going to have to dump it and pull the NG mip out of thr closet (which truthfully I do have waiting in the wings brand new...just in case...). Rob always laughs and says.."seriously...look down at your -300 OEM mip and tell me what else can even come close to comparing...". He is right....nothing compares and I always have to pinch myself....
If anyone on this forum ever wants to stop by for a visit to experience what I can only describe as flying a museum piece..a piece of history...give me a shout. You are welcome. I am sure Rob would oblige as well if you happen to be passing through South Bend, In. These are almost identical sisterships living in the US heartland.
Scott
Man, i wish i could visit when you had your workshop! Both fun and would be great to learn from the masters! :)
New video...
Enjoying a little XEnviro weather flying a circuit at KSEA.....all running smooth and looking phenomenal.
https://youtu.be/QTs4n1mpq34 (https://youtu.be/QTs4n1mpq34)
733....slowly but surely coming along...
Scott
Quote from: XOrionFE on January 20, 2018, 07:20:43 PM
New video...
Enjoying a little XEnviro weather flying a circuit at KSEA.....all running smooth and looking phenomenal.
https://youtu.be/QTs4n1mpq34 (https://youtu.be/QTs4n1mpq34)
733....slowly but surely coming along...
Scott
Great Video Scott. Very smooth. Huge wow factor !
Decided to fire up my back two displays again networked on XP. Installed XEnviro on them and working great. not always perfect because the clouds are not synced perfectly across networked visuals but good enough for me......and Immersion well.....IMHO beats the hell out of projectors. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You have to be in it and see it believe me. All are welcome to visit.
https://youtu.be/Tm7waOeZB0s (https://youtu.be/Tm7waOeZB0s)
https://youtu.be/h9iNzqmg8kY (https://youtu.be/h9iNzqmg8kY)
The entire sim is amazing! Great work!
All MIP Korries, Master Caution, Fire Warning, and Six Packs interfaced and working...check. (Lights test looks like XMAS!)
Pressurization panel interfaced and working...check
Quote from: XOrionFE on March 02, 2018, 04:15:26 PM
All MIP Korries, Master Caution, Fire Warning, and Six Packs interfaced and working...check. (Lights test looks like XMAS!)
Pressurization panel interfaced and working...check
Looks awesome Scott!
Worked on my Windshield/Pitot Heat panel this weekend. Have to finish my Teensy sketch and will be working by tomorrow night. Here are some pictures of interfacing the real panel and how it wires into a Teensy using Rob's breakout board with some ULN2803s and a Teensy LC.
Scott
You Guys are real 73-Nuts !!!! :D
Keep on !
Hey Rob and Scott,
My curiosity into using Teensy cards is getting stronger every time you guys post something new, and now seeing the PCB's that Rob has developed is making things that much easier. So, Rob are you planning on selling these in a kit and/or as P&P in the future?
Next, Rob I know you did the B727 in the past, but could it be done using Teensy's along with your PCB (and other needed items)? Also, what language/software (interface) are you using to set everything up? In other words, I know zilch about the methodology involved with the setups Scott and you are doing; however, I surely could learn, but mainly for the 72 as well as the 73.
Likely, you're wondering where I am going with this line of questioning...well; if do not sell my 72 I might decide to keep it and get it working. After all the time and effort just acquiring it, plus seeing it sitting here next to me everyday just looking pretty makes it a whole lot harder to part with her. Actually, sitting here in the hanger everyday is just as bad, if only I had you guys closer I could just imagine what we could do.
Heck, any other members living closer would be a blessing, but that is not in the foreseeable future, not unless I convince Bob and his wife to move near me...come on Bob...just keep saying Tomah, WI, Tomah, WI...lol! Everyone else you're welcome to come visit or move to Tomah, WI and join me. I really do need a partner or two, as my past ones developed medical issues; one with survivable Prostate Cancer and the other passed away due to Colon Cancer.
Uh, no I am not bad luck or anything...lol...but then again who else just had surgery?
Makes you wonder... :huh:...hahahaha...but then again, can you say;
"Things that make you go hmmmm?!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF2ayWcJfxo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF2ayWcJfxo)
Did you enjoy the retro?
John
John,
The 727 could EASILY be done using Teensy interfacing the same as we are doing here. In fact, I could quite easily switch mine back to a 737-200 if I chose with a few panel changes. For a 727 you would want to use X-Plane and the incredible awesome FlyJSim 727 aircraft addon. Jack (the main developer of FlyJSim) is updating the 727 to version 3 as we speak just like he just did for his incredible 732. He exposes all of the systems via datarefs and my guess is the 727 would be near if not 100 percent interfaceable the same as Rob and I have done ours. See Jack continue developement of the new version on his Twitch channel. My guess is it will be completed within the next month or two but you could use the existing version until then just fine. It would be really something for you or someone to build that 727. Rob and I would be hapoy to help with coding questions and such. May even be able to take a trip there at some point. You have to come pay a visit to me in April when I am back from Spring vacation.
As for the coding, it is simple C# Arduino ccoding but Teensy's offer a unique flightsim library and plug in for XPlane and very powerful performance for a very low cost. What is also cool about Teensys and Arduino is that the code (sketch) is self contained on the Interface once you load it and a simple plugin in XPlane allows the communication. You can unplug one of these or reload it on the fly and do not have to restart the sim. You can do this in flight! Makes testing really slick and easy.
I will post my Sketch for the Windshield Heat panel later today or tonight when I finish it and you can see how simple.
Build that 727 John! If I had the space I would buy it from you in a heart beat and build it myself!
Scott
That panel interface is looking awesome. What awg you using for 5v,28v and ground? What is your connector called and what tool to press it?
Quote from: kurt-olsson on March 05, 2018, 05:46:12 AM
That panel interface is looking awesome. What awg you using for 5v,28v and ground? What is your connector called and what tool to press it?
Kurt,
The wire AWG is all dependent on the circuit load and as the case with most simbuilders, we go way overboard. LOL For real Korry's, they draw 70 - 80mA per bulb so roughly 150mA per Korry. So from the Korry to Teensy board 26ga would be plenty, same for the switch signal inputs. Now for the wire to feed the 28v and GND to the module as a whole lets use this panel Scott built as an example. 17 Korry's so that 17x 150mA = 2550mA or 2.5A So to feed that panel you would only need 18ga wire. Now for the entire overhead while on a Lights test, you would calculate total load and use the appropriate sized wire for that load. NOTE! when calculating wire size you must know the distance of the run to and from the power supply. So if your 28V power supply is sitting 20ft away form the supply terminal strips in the overhead, you would need to use 40ft as total run distance and lets say 10A So you would need a 12ga feed wire from your power supply to the overhead. Make sense? As for connectors, Scot uses Amp brand connectors, I used automotive style connectors I got from amazon. Doesn't matter what you use as long as you get a properly rated connector for the amp draw. These are overkill that we use but easier to handle with average hands and more robust than smaller connectors.
One day we can discuss how I only have 3 wires to mine as well but in my case the Ground is also DC and AC gnd as all my backlighting is 0-5Vac. ;) Scotts 3 wires are 28Vdc, 0-5Vdc, and GND Mine are 28Vdc, 0-5Vac, and GND plus one usb connection. It has proven to be a very nice, robust, and most of all convenient to remove for updates/repairs/maint.
Rob
Quote from: kurt-olsson on March 05, 2018, 05:46:12 AM
That panel interface is looking awesome. What awg you using for 5v,28v and ground? What is your connector called and what tool to press it?
Thanks Rob, and for a little further on mine...
The wires going to the Teensy are 22 awg (24-26 would be fine as well but i like 22 for added measure and ease of using various connectors). Gray wire is for ground signal on korrys back through ULN2803 chips (defined as outputs on the Teensy. White wires are input wires going from switches to the Teensy. Red wire (with white strip or white heat shrink) is noted as 5vdc backlighting power which is variable with dimmers. Purple in my cockpit is 28vdc. The thicker Red, Purple, and Black wires going into the Molex connector is 16 awg. I use 16 awg as feeders into all panels. those feeders go to my Blue Ocean Busses and all feeders have appropriate fuses. The blue ocean busses connect back to my rack and to the appropriate power supplies via 12 awg wire and on regular aircraft style breakers.
The molex connectors are by Waldom and are the .093 size for 16 gauge wires. .062 for smaller 22-24 awg wire. You can buy the crimper from them as well as a tool used to extract pins once installed. I get them from Digikey.
https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/molex-connector-corporation/76650-0058/WM8355-ND/2115919 (https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/molex-connector-corporation/76650-0058/WM8355-ND/2115919)
Thanks! Will have a good strategy and proper tools before i start my interface-fest! :)
It would be nice to see some of this information captured in it's own space with part #s..... My bookmark list is getting kind of large. So is the pile of parts, chips, PCBs and all for me to tackle teensy. I need to retire. This work thing is interfering with my simming
Here is the Teensy sketch for my Window/Heat panel:
Scott
------Begin-----
#include <Arduino.h>
#include <Bounce.h>
//IXEGWindowHeat Panels using TeensyLC
// output pins
const uint8_t WIN_OVHT_LEFT_SIDE_LT_PIN = 0;
const uint8_t WIN_OFF_LEFT_SIDE_LT_PIN = 1;
const uint8_t WIN_OVHT_LEFT_FWD_LT_PIN = 2;
const uint8_t WIN_OFF_LEFT_FWD_LT_PIN = 3;
const uint8_t WIN_OVHT_RIGHT_FWD_LT_PIN = 4;
const uint8_t WIN_OFF_RIGHT_FWD_LT_PIN = 5;
const uint8_t WIN_OVHT_RIGHT_SIDE_LT_PIN = 6;
const uint8_t WIN_OFF_RIGHT_SIDE_LT_PIN = 7;
const uint8_t CAPT1_AUX_LT_PIN = 8;
const uint8_t FO_2_STAT_LT_PIN = 9;
const uint8_t LEFT_ELEV_PITOT_LT_PIN = 10;
const uint8_t LEFT_ALPHA_VANE_LT_PIN = 11;
const uint8_t TEMP_PROBE_LT_PIN = 12;
const uint8_t FO_2_AUX_LT_PIN = 13;
const uint8_t CAPT_STAT1_LT_PIN = 14;
const uint8_t RIGHT_ELEV_PITOT_LT_PIN =15;
//const uint8_t RIGHT_ALPHA_VANE_LT_PIN *Note that the Right Alpha Vane Korry is on a separate Teensy*
const uint8_t WINHEAT_LEFT_SIDE_SW_PIN = 16;
const uint8_t WINHEAT_LEFT_FWD_SW_PIN = 17;
const uint8_t WINHEAT_RIGHT_SIDE_SW_PIN = 21;
const uint8_t WINHEAT_RIGHT_FWD_SW_PIN = 20;
const uint8_t PITOT_A_SW_PIN = 22;
const uint8_t PITOT_B_SW_PIN = 23;
const uint8_t WINHEAT_TEST_SW_PIN = 18;
const uint8_t WIN_PWR_TEST_SW_PIN = 19;
const int BOUNCE_TIME = 15;// Switch debouncing time (used for all switches)
const float LIGHT_THRESHOLD = 0.2; // threshold to use for light on or off
//define dataRef vars
FlightSimFloat winovhtleftsideannXref;
FlightSimFloat winoffleftsideannXref;
FlightSimFloat winovhtleftfwdannXref;
FlightSimFloat winofflleftfwdannXref;
FlightSimFloat winovhtrightfwdannXref;
FlightSimFloat winoffrfightfwdannXref;
FlightSimFloat winovhtrightsideannXref;
FlightSimFloat winoffrrightsideannXref;
FlightSimFloat capt1auxannXref;
FlightSimFloat fo2statannXref;
FlightSimFloat leftelevpitotannXref;
FlightSimFloat leftalphavaneannXref;
FlightSimFloat tempprobeannXref;
FlightSimFloat fo2auxannXref;
FlightSimFloat captstat1annXref;
FlightSimFloat rightelevpitotannXref;
FlightSimInteger winheatleftsideactXref;
FlightSimInteger winheatleftfwdactXref;
FlightSimInteger winheatrightsideactXref;
FlightSimInteger winheatrightfwdactXref;
FlightSimInteger pitotaactXref;
FlightSimInteger pitotbactXref;
FlightSimInteger winheattestactXref;
//Bounce Switches
Bounce winheatleftsideSw = Bounce (WINHEAT_LEFT_SIDE_SW_PIN, 5);
Bounce winheatleftfwdSw = Bounce (WINHEAT_LEFT_FWD_SW_PIN, 5);
Bounce winheatrightsideSw = Bounce (WINHEAT_RIGHT_SIDE_SW_PIN, 5);
Bounce winheatrightfwdSw = Bounce (WINHEAT_RIGHT_FWD_SW_PIN, 5);
Bounce pitotaSw = Bounce (PITOT_A_SW_PIN, 5);
Bounce pitotbSw = Bounce (PITOT_B_SW_PIN, 5);
Bounce winheattestSw = Bounce (WINHEAT_TEST_SW_PIN, 5);
Bounce winpwrtestSw = Bounce (WIN_PWR_TEST_SW_PIN, 5);
elapsedMillis sinceUpdate;
// setup runs once
void setup() {
Serial.begin(38400);
//IXEG Datarefs
winovhtleftsideannXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winovht_l_side_ann");
winoffleftsideannXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winoff_l_side_ann");
winovhtleftfwdannXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winovht_l_fwd_ann");
winofflleftfwdannXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winoff_l_fwd_ann");
winovhtrightfwdannXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winovht_r_fwd_ann");
winoffrfightfwdannXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winoff_r_fwd_ann");
winovhtrightsideannXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winovht_r_side_ann");
winoffrrightsideannXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winoff_r_side_ann");
capt1auxannXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_capt_1_aux_ann");
fo2statannXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_fo_2_stat_ann");
leftelevpitotannXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_l_elev_pitot_ann");
leftalphavaneannXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_l_alpha_vane_ann");
tempprobeannXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_temp_probe_ann");
fo2auxannXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_fo_2_aux_ann");
captstat1annXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_capt_stat_1_ann");
rightelevpitotannXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_r_elev_pitot_ann");
winheatleftsideactXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winheat_l_side_act");
winheatleftfwdactXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winheat_l_fwd_act");
winheatrightsideactXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winheat_r_side_act");
winheatrightfwdactXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winheat_r_fwd_act");
pitotaactXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_pitot_a_act");
pitotbactXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_pitot_b_act");
winheattestactXref = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winheat_test_act"); //Overheat position = -1.00, Pwr Test = 1 , Off = 0
//define Teensy pin types
pinMode (WIN_OVHT_LEFT_SIDE_LT_PIN, OUTPUT);
pinMode (WIN_OFF_LEFT_SIDE_LT_PIN, OUTPUT);
pinMode (WIN_OVHT_LEFT_FWD_LT_PIN, OUTPUT);
pinMode (WIN_OFF_LEFT_FWD_LT_PIN, OUTPUT);
pinMode (WIN_OVHT_RIGHT_FWD_LT_PIN, OUTPUT);
pinMode (WIN_OFF_RIGHT_FWD_LT_PIN, OUTPUT);
pinMode (WIN_OVHT_RIGHT_SIDE_LT_PIN, OUTPUT);
pinMode (WIN_OFF_RIGHT_SIDE_LT_PIN, OUTPUT);
pinMode (CAPT1_AUX_LT_PIN, OUTPUT);
pinMode (FO_2_STAT_LT_PIN, OUTPUT);
pinMode (LEFT_ELEV_PITOT_LT_PIN, OUTPUT);
pinMode (LEFT_ALPHA_VANE_LT_PIN, OUTPUT);
pinMode (TEMP_PROBE_LT_PIN, OUTPUT);
pinMode (FO_2_AUX_LT_PIN, OUTPUT);
pinMode (CAPT_STAT1_LT_PIN, OUTPUT);
pinMode (RIGHT_ELEV_PITOT_LT_PIN, OUTPUT);
pinMode (WINHEAT_LEFT_SIDE_SW_PIN, INPUT_PULLUP);
pinMode (WINHEAT_LEFT_FWD_SW_PIN, INPUT_PULLUP);
pinMode (WINHEAT_RIGHT_SIDE_SW_PIN, INPUT_PULLUP);
pinMode (WINHEAT_RIGHT_FWD_SW_PIN, INPUT_PULLUP);
pinMode (PITOT_A_SW_PIN, INPUT_PULLUP);
pinMode (PITOT_B_SW_PIN, INPUT_PULLUP);
pinMode (WINHEAT_TEST_SW_PIN, INPUT_PULLUP);
pinMode (WIN_PWR_TEST_SW_PIN, INPUT_PULLUP);
}
//Function Definitions
//This function used for lighting korrys
void setAnnunciator(float value, const uint8_t outputPin) {
digitalWrite(outputPin, value > LIGHT_THRESHOLD ? HIGH : LOW);
}
//This function used for a single toggle switch
void updateFunction(Bounce *bounce, FlightSimInteger *dataRef, bool resync) {
if (bounce->update() || resync) {
if (!bounce->read()) {
*dataRef = 1;
} else {
*dataRef = 0;
}
}
}
//This function used for a 3 position Toggle switch
void updateFunctionDoubleSwitch(Bounce *bounce1, Bounce *bounce2, FlightSimInteger *dataRef, int val1, int val2, int valNone, bool resync) {
// Check if switches have been changed.
// We can't use "if (bounce1->update() || bounce2->update())..." here, because that way, if bounce1->update() returned true,
// bounce2->update() wouldn't even be called, meaning that the switch wouldn't be debounced.
// Another way to do this would be "if (bounce1->update() | bounce2->update())..." (using an ARITHMETIC or - single vertical
// bar), but that is error prone.
bool bounce1Updated = bounce1->update();
bool bounce2Updated = bounce2->update();
if (bounce1Updated || bounce2Updated || resync) {
if (!bounce1->read()) {
*dataRef = val1;
} else if (!bounce2->read()) {
*dataRef = val2;
} else {
*dataRef = valNone;
}
}
}
//End Function Definitions
bool wasEnabled = false;
bool checkResync() {
// check if flight sim was just enabled
// this is the case if it WAS NOT enabled before and IS enabled now
bool newEnabled = FlightSim.isEnabled();
bool result = (!wasEnabled) && newEnabled;
wasEnabled = newEnabled;
return result;
}
// loop runs repetitively, as long as power is on
void loop() {
FlightSim.update();
bool resync = checkResync();
//***Switches***
updateFunction(&winheatleftsideSw, &winheatleftsideactXref, resync);
updateFunction(&winheatleftfwdSw, &winheatleftfwdactXref, resync);
updateFunction(&winheatrightsideSw, &winheatrightsideactXref, resync);
updateFunction(&winheatrightfwdSw, &winheatrightfwdactXref, resync);
updateFunction(&pitotaSw, &pitotaactXref, resync);
updateFunction(&pitotbSw, &pitotbactXref, resync);
updateFunctionDoubleSwitch(&winheattestSw, &winpwrtestSw, &winheattestactXref, -1, 1, 0, resync);
//*****Outputs*****
setAnnunciator(winovhtleftsideannXref, WIN_OVHT_LEFT_SIDE_LT_PIN);
//setAnnunciator(winoffleftsideannXref, WIN_OFF_LEFT_SIDE_LT_PIN); //Note - commented out because the IXEG uses OFF lights instead of ON lights
setAnnunciator(winovhtleftfwdannXref, WIN_OVHT_LEFT_FWD_LT_PIN);
//setAnnunciator(winofflleftfwdannXref, WIN_OFF_LEFT_FWD_LT_PIN);
setAnnunciator(winovhtrightfwdannXref, WIN_OVHT_RIGHT_FWD_LT_PIN);
//setAnnunciator(winoffrfightfwdannXref , WIN_OFF_RIGHT_FWD_LT_PIN);
setAnnunciator(winovhtrightsideannXref, WIN_OVHT_RIGHT_SIDE_LT_PIN);
//setAnnunciator(winoffrrightsideannXref, WIN_OFF_RIGHT_SIDE_LT_PIN);
setAnnunciator(capt1auxannXref, CAPT1_AUX_LT_PIN);
setAnnunciator(fo2statannXref, FO_2_STAT_LT_PIN);
setAnnunciator(leftelevpitotannXref, LEFT_ELEV_PITOT_LT_PIN);
setAnnunciator(leftalphavaneannXref, LEFT_ALPHA_VANE_LT_PIN);
setAnnunciator(tempprobeannXref, TEMP_PROBE_LT_PIN);
setAnnunciator(fo2auxannXref, FO_2_AUX_LT_PIN);
setAnnunciator(captstat1annXref, CAPT_STAT1_LT_PIN);
setAnnunciator(rightelevpitotannXref, RIGHT_ELEV_PITOT_LT_PIN);
//Note - had to add these in and reverse High and Low because IXEG uses OFF lights instead of ON lights
if (winoffleftsideannXref > LIGHT_THRESHOLD) {
digitalWrite(WIN_OFF_LEFT_SIDE_LT_PIN, LOW);
} else {
digitalWrite(WIN_OFF_LEFT_SIDE_LT_PIN, HIGH);
}
if (winofflleftfwdannXref > LIGHT_THRESHOLD) {
digitalWrite(WIN_OFF_LEFT_FWD_LT_PIN, LOW);
} else {
digitalWrite(WIN_OFF_LEFT_FWD_LT_PIN, HIGH);
}
if (winoffrfightfwdannXref > LIGHT_THRESHOLD) {
digitalWrite(WIN_OFF_RIGHT_FWD_LT_PIN, LOW);
} else {
digitalWrite(WIN_OFF_RIGHT_FWD_LT_PIN, HIGH);
}
if (winoffrrightsideannXref > LIGHT_THRESHOLD) {
digitalWrite(WIN_OFF_RIGHT_SIDE_LT_PIN, LOW);
} else {
digitalWrite(WIN_OFF_RIGHT_SIDE_LT_PIN, HIGH);
}
}
Dang that looks pretty intense to me!
Quote from: Steenos on March 05, 2018, 05:02:51 PM
Dang that looks pretty intense to me!
There is a new library out that would cut that sketch in half. And just for comparison, here is my old sketch that i am using Haven't updated mine yet to the new library.
#include <Bounce.h>
FlightSimFloat WhL1;
FlightSimFloat WhL2;
FlightSimFloat WhR1;
FlightSimFloat WhR2;
FlightSimFloat PitHeatA;
FlightSimFloat PitHeatB;
FlightSimFloat OvhtTest1; //Overheat position = -1.00
FlightSimFloat OvhtTest2; //Pwr Test = 1 , Off = 0
FlightSimFloat LsOvht;
FlightSimFloat LfOvht;
FlightSimFloat RfOvht;
FlightSimFloat RsOvht;
FlightSimFloat LsON;
FlightSimFloat LfON;
FlightSimFloat RfON;
FlightSimFloat RsON;
FlightSimFloat CaptAux1;
FlightSimFloat FoStatic1;
FlightSimFloat LelevPitot;
FlightSimFloat TempProbe;
FlightSimFloat FoStatic2;
FlightSimFloat CaptStatic1;
FlightSimFloat RelevPitot;
Bounce WhL1Sw = Bounce (22, 5);
Bounce WhL2Sw = Bounce (21, 5);
Bounce WhR1Sw = Bounce (23, 5);
Bounce WhR2Sw = Bounce (17, 5);
Bounce PitHeatASw = Bounce (20, 5);
Bounce PitHeatBSw = Bounce (19, 5);
Bounce OvhtTest1Sw = Bounce (16, 5);
Bounce OvhtTest2Sw = Bounce (18, 5); //Power Test
elapsedMillis sinceUpdate;
void setup() {
pinMode(16, INPUT_PULLUP); //OVHT test SW
pinMode(17, INPUT_PULLUP); //Rt FWD Heat SW
pinMode(18, INPUT_PULLUP); //PWR Test SW
pinMode(19, INPUT_PULLUP); //Pitot B SW
pinMode(20, INPUT_PULLUP); //Pitot A SW
pinMode(21, INPUT_PULLUP); //Lt FWD Heat SW
pinMode(22, INPUT_PULLUP); // Lt Side Heat SW
pinMode(23, INPUT_PULLUP); // Rt Side Heat SW
// Outputs to Korry's
pinMode(0, OUTPUT); //Lt Side Ovht
pinMode(1, OUTPUT); //Lt Side ON
pinMode(2, OUTPUT); //Rt Side Ovht
pinMode(3, OUTPUT); //Rt Fwd Ovht
pinMode(4, OUTPUT); //Rt Fwd ON
pinMode(5, OUTPUT); //Rt Side ON
pinMode(6, OUTPUT); //Lt Fwd Ovht
pinMode(7, OUTPUT); //Lt Fwd ON
pinMode(8, OUTPUT); // Unassigned
pinMode(9, OUTPUT); //Lt Temp Probe
pinMode(10, OUTPUT); //Capt Static 1
pinMode(11, OUTPUT); //Lt Elev Pitot
pinMode(12, OUTPUT); //missing Korry
pinMode(13, OUTPUT); //Rt Elev Pitot
pinMode(14, OUTPUT); //FO Static 2
pinMode(15, OUTPUT); //FO Static 1
//IXEG Datarefs
WhL1 = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winheat_l_side_act");
WhL2 = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winheat_l_fwd_act");
WhR1 = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winheat_r_side_act");
WhR2 = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winheat_r_fwd_act");
PitHeatA = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_pitot_a_act");
PitHeatB = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_pitot_b_act");
OvhtTest1 = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winheat_test_act"); //Overheat position = -1.00
OvhtTest2 = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winheat_test_act"); //Pwr Test = 1 , Off = 0
LsOvht = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winovht_l_side_ann");
LfOvht = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winovht_r_fwd_ann");
RfOvht = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winovht_r_fwd_ann");
RsOvht = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winovht_r_side_ann");
LsON = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winoff_l_side_ann");
LfON = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winoff_l_fwd_ann");
RfON = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winoff_r_fwd_ann");
RsON = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_winoff_r_side_ann");
CaptAux1 = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_capt_1_aux_ann");
FoStatic1 = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_fo_stat_1_ann");
LelevPitot = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_l_elev_pitot_ann");
TempProbe = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_temp_probe_ann");
FoStatic2 = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_fo_2_aux_ann");
CaptStatic1 = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_capt_stat_1_ann");
RelevPitot = XPlaneRef("ixeg/733/antiice/ai_r_elev_pitot_ann");
}
void loop() {
if (sinceUpdate >= 100) {
sinceUpdate = 0;
FlightSim.update();
}
// Process Outputs
if (LsOvht > 0.2) {
digitalWrite(0, HIGH);
} else {
digitalWrite(0, LOW);
}
if (LsON < 0.2) {
digitalWrite(1, HIGH);
} else {
digitalWrite(1, LOW);
}
if (RsOvht > 0.2) {
digitalWrite(2, HIGH);
} else {
digitalWrite(2, LOW);
}
if (RfOvht > 0.2) {
digitalWrite(3, HIGH);
} else {
digitalWrite(3, LOW);
}
if (RfON < 0.2) {
digitalWrite(4, HIGH);
} else {
digitalWrite(4, LOW);
}
if (RsON < 0.2) {
digitalWrite(5, HIGH);
} else {
digitalWrite(5, LOW);
}
if (LfOvht > 0.2) {
digitalWrite(6, HIGH);
} else {
digitalWrite(6, LOW);
}
if (LfON < 0.2) {
digitalWrite(7, HIGH);
} else {
digitalWrite(7, LOW);
}
if (TempProbe > 0.2) {
digitalWrite(9, HIGH);
} else {
digitalWrite(9, LOW);
}
if (CaptAux1 > 0.2) {
digitalWrite(10, HIGH);
} else {
digitalWrite(10, LOW);
}
if (LelevPitot > 0.2) {
digitalWrite(11, HIGH);
} else {
digitalWrite(11, LOW);
}
if (RelevPitot > 0.2) {
digitalWrite(13, HIGH);
} else {
digitalWrite(13, LOW);
}
if (FoStatic2 > 0.2) {
digitalWrite(14, HIGH);
} else {
digitalWrite(14, LOW);
}
if (FoStatic1 > 0.2) {
digitalWrite(15, HIGH);
} else {
digitalWrite(15, LOW);
}
// Prcess Switch Inputs
if (OvhtTest1Sw.update()) {
if (OvhtTest1Sw.fallingEdge()) {
OvhtTest1 = -1.0;
} else {
OvhtTest1 = 0.0;
}
}
if (OvhtTest2Sw.update()) {
if (OvhtTest2Sw.fallingEdge()) {
OvhtTest2 = 1.0;
} else {
OvhtTest2 = 0.0;
}
}
if (WhR2Sw.update()) {
if (WhR2Sw.fallingEdge()) {
WhR2 = 1.0;
} else {
WhR2 = 0.0;
}
}
if (PitHeatBSw.update()) {
if (PitHeatBSw.fallingEdge()) {
PitHeatB = 1.0;
} else {
PitHeatB = 0.0;
}
}
if (PitHeatASw.update()) {
if (PitHeatASw.fallingEdge()) {
PitHeatA = 1.0;
} else {
PitHeatA = 0.0;
}
}
if (WhL2Sw.update()) {
if (WhL2Sw.fallingEdge()) {
WhL2 = 1.0;
} else {
WhL2 = 0.0;
}
}
if (WhL1Sw.update()) {
if (WhL1Sw.fallingEdge()) {
WhL1 = 1.0;
} else {
WhL1 = 0.0;
}
}
if (WhR1Sw.update()) {
if (WhR1Sw.fallingEdge()) {
WhR1 = 1.0;
} else {
WhR1 = 0.0;
}
}
}
As a programmer a tip i have is to use conditional expression and also you can remove the brackets if only oneline within the if statent.
Ex: instead of:
If (a ==1) {
DoSomething(write,LOW)
}
Else
{
DoSomething(write,HIGH)
}
This can be shortened to:
DoSomething(write, a == 1 ? LOW : HIGH);
There are alot of if / else that could be removed i this code. I think i could remove 40% of it with some refactoring.
Quote from: kurt-olsson on March 05, 2018, 07:51:29 PM
As a programmer a tip i have is to use conditional expression and also you can remove the brackets if only oneline within the if statent.
Ex: instead of:
If (a ==1) {
DoSomething(write,LOW)
}
Else
{
DoSomething(write,HIGH)
}
This can be shortened to:
DoSomething(write, a == 1 ? LOW : HIGH);
There are alot of if / else that could be removed i this code. I think i could remove 40% of it with some refactoring.
Million ways to skin a cat. This code is not fully optimized. As you can see, most is function driven but I had to slam the last conditional statements in to get a particular error resolved and tested. I posted this not so we can discuss programmig technique but so that folks can get an idea of what the effort looks like. Thank you for the tips. Lets keep this topic to the overall build updates though. Perhaps we can eventually have an area on the forum for coding examples and tips 🙂
Scott
Quote from: XOrionFE on March 06, 2018, 03:35:57 AM
Quote from: kurt-olsson on March 05, 2018, 07:51:29 PM
As a programmer a tip i have is to use conditional expression and also you can remove the brackets if only oneline within the if statent.
Ex: instead of:
If (a ==1) {
DoSomething(write,LOW)
}
Else
{
DoSomething(write,HIGH)
}
This can be shortened to:
DoSomething(write, a == 1 ? LOW : HIGH);
There are alot of if / else that could be removed i this code. I think i could remove 40% of it with some refactoring.
Million ways to skin a cat. This code is not fully optimized. As you can see, most is function driven but I had to slam the last conditional statements in to get a particular error resolved and tested. I posted this not so we can discuss programmig technique but so that folks can get an idea of what the effort looks like. Thank you for the tips. Lets keep this topic to the overall build updates though. Perhaps we can eventually have an area on the forum for coding examples and tips 🙂
Scott
Scott, we do have a Arduino Projects section and a LUA section. Arduino Projects has never had a post.
I posted it because it looked daunting to some people and wanted to show that it can be made easier.
Sorry Scott, still looks daunting to my old brain. I'm still at the flash the LED stage. :) :) :)
Joe.
Quote from: kurt-olsson on March 05, 2018, 07:51:29 PM
As a programmer a tip i have is to use conditional expression and also you can remove the brackets if only oneline within the if statent.
Ex: instead of:
If (a ==1) {
DoSomething(write,LOW)
}
Else
{
DoSomething(write,HIGH)
}
This can be shortened to:
DoSomething(write, a == 1 ? LOW : HIGH);
There are alot of if / else that could be removed i this code. I think i could remove 40% of it with some refactoring.
Hi,
Tips like this are incredibly useful to self taught arduino "programmers" (I use the term very loosely!) like me.
I'll be grateful if you could consider opening a new thread with any other similar tips or links to tips?
Apologies for highjacking this thread.
Regards
Paul
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Quote from: kurt-olsson on March 06, 2018, 04:42:55 AM
I posted it because it looked daunting to some people and wanted to show that it can be made easier.
Just wanted to comment on this.
Just because some code is written shorter, doesn't mean it is any easier to follow. Sometimes properly formatted multiple statements can be the better solution if it makes it easier to understand when you come back to it months or years later. Just because some code takes up a lot of space doesn't make it harder to see what is going on.
The embedded programing (microcontroller firmware) I was doing before I changed jobs, we were putting emphasis on proper style, readability, and understandability, over fancy statements that made the text segment shorter. As some sections of our code had safety critical operations this was important.
The other factor with embedded programing is that we had to be very aware of how the compiler would take a statement and then use it on the microcontroller. I remember one compiler that would actually use less memory in the micro if many
if,then,else statements were used over a simpler switch statement. Longer C file but smaller operating code size.
Been almost a year so thought I would post some pics of the build.
Since last time much more has been completed.
1. Switched out ADIs to Collins style and finished interfacing Flight Director, Glide slope, and fast slow indicators.
2. Not sure if it was done last time but OEM MCP is 100 percent interfaced and working using Arinc.
3. OEM CDUs are fully operational using Arinc.
4. OEM weather radar and tcas panel fully interfaced and operational using Arinc.
5. OEM Vertical speed indicators with integrated tcas fully interfaced and operational with Arinc.
6. OEM fuel gauges fully interfaced and operational.
7. 2 bay pedestal replaced with 3 bay and wired for power and hubs.
8. OEM Comms, Navs, and Transponder all wired in and fully functional. Comms and Transponder using Arinc and Navs using custom teensy multiplex interface board we made along with regular teensy programming.
9. Pedestal lights and door lock panels installed and operational.
10. Added OEM ACARs panel which we hope to interface as soon as sim funtionality exists.
11. Added second electronics shelf of stepper to synchro drivers so I can add in signals to run RMIs for VOR and ADF needles as well as to separate FO Altimeter as its own standalone altimeter rather than simply mimicking the Captains.
12. On X-Plane front I am running the latest release of 11.30 flawlessly and have implemented Activesky for XP weather (which is awesome). I also upgraded a second pc with a 1080 TI card and so now I am running the full sim on just two PCs with full wraparound visuals.
In short, much accomplished since this time last year. Special thanks to Rob Archer and Jorg Bleisener who have been instrumental contributors this whole time and withoutbwhom this would not be possible.
Guess it may be coming close to time to finally sell my shiny new NG mip from FDS along with their cdus and my cp flight stuff because I doubt I would ever turn back now. X-Plane has grown by leaps and bounds in the last year and with addons like ActiveSky as well as the new scenery from Orbx and the power of Teensies for interfacing it is one helluva platform for the OEM builder.
Thats all for now.
Scott
Some current pics
Impressive!
Truly a masterpiece!
Fred K
Unreal, Scott. Very nice.
Glad you're still plugging away at this.
Warren
Very nice work. Good to see you back
Thank you guys. Definitely been a labor of love. A lot of blood, sweat and tears to go with it. Cant tell you how many times I have been ready to throw in the towel (although Rob probably has them all logged somewhere...lol). I just keep nudging foward. I will saw without Rob to listen to my grumbling when things go wrong and to keep encouraging me I probably would have gone back to NG but I am well over the halfway mark now so feeling good about the progress. Almost ready for IFR flight now. A few more items to complete on my so called MEL and it will be fully IFR capable on PE.
Scott
Dream machine !!!
Drooling...
Quote from: XOrionFE on March 02, 2019, 05:22:20 AM
Guess it may be coming close to time to finally sell my shiny new NG mip from FDS along with their cdus and my cp flight stuff because I doubt I would ever turn back now.
Hmmmm Think Think Think Think..... :idiot: LOL