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Title: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: archen on April 10, 2020, 06:25:43 AM
Hello all,
I'm working on a new product for the parking brake lever on the throttle Quadrant.

Features:
- Automatic release when pushing on brakepedals.

- Realistic method for setting the parking brake. You need to press the brakes to be able to pull the handle all the way.

- To set the parking brake you also need keep your hand on the lever until you release the brakes.

- When set, you can't push the handle down. You need to release the pressure on the brake pedals.

It will work by electronics (solenoid) OR a mechanical linkage to the pedals. The second version will be later on.

The main design is finished and I'm manufacturing the first prototype at the moment.



I need you input, what kind of connector do your OEM parking brake rod have?

Was your rod cut when you purchased the TQ?

Share your pictures, thanks [emoji4]

Anders

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Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: mickc on April 10, 2020, 06:36:11 AM
OEM TQ has a small bellcrank at the bottom, this connects to the linkage with a rod end.  This linkage is usually cut or stays with the aircraft depending on how much of a rush the dismantler is in  :)

Below is a layout of the full linkage
Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: archen on April 10, 2020, 07:10:58 AM
Hello Mick,
Seems like there are some methods out there when dismantling the TQ. Many are cut as I can see. Do you know how the rod connects to the bellcrank? Any dimensions of the connector?

The rod will connect to a arm in my construction, just thinking about to design the connection so it will fit those TQs that still have the connector.

I suppose it's something like attached picture?

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200410/c403d761fe21cf7a73ac7f8c5017bf15.jpg)

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Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: mickc on April 10, 2020, 07:39:33 AM
Quote from: archen on April 10, 2020, 07:10:58 AMHello Mick,
Seems like there are some methods out there when dismantling the TQ. Many are cut as I can see. Do you know how the rod connects to the bellcrank? Any dimensions of the connector?

The rod will connect to a arm in my construction, just thinking about to design the connection so it will fit those TQs that still have the connector.

I suppose it's something like attached picture?

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200410/c403d761fe21cf7a73ac7f8c5017bf15.jpg)

Yes, but with a male thread.  It just has a 3/16" through bolt holding it on.  I can measure and take pics tomorrow
Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: archen on April 10, 2020, 08:34:33 AM
Awesome! Thank you very much mick

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Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: kattz on April 13, 2020, 12:55:47 PM
Hi, Anders,

Sign me up when you have them finished!

Regards,

Kev
Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: archen on April 14, 2020, 12:13:15 AM
Hey Kev,
Thanks! I'll post video and updates in this thread once available.

I have a working prototype now, waiting for some hardware before sending it out to a friend that has a OEM TQ for integration.

Br.
Anders

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Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: kattz on April 14, 2020, 06:04:09 PM
I have one too!  Ready to test!

Kev
Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: archen on April 14, 2020, 11:05:35 PM
Awesome. I'll be in touch [emoji4]

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Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: archen on April 18, 2020, 09:54:50 AM
Prototype is more or less finished. I'm waiting for threaded inserts, then I will be able to assemble the unit and send it for testing.

Design worked as planned. I plan to use some kind of friction material on the lever to introduce some inertia.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200418/f438b582542cd43ef2518c4f15eb0176.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200418/9f135d3541986aee8ee718a78355bebd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200418/0c79254c8a973a6882a38c6e009a5738.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200418/e76bfb1db69f4e9c76de262fa77a35cc.jpg)

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Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: archen on April 23, 2020, 08:31:21 AM
Prototype ready and sent for testing in Real 737 TQ.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200423/71d21d10926cb43584258e824dae6e10.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200423/3ea45d422d72c3ee2ed3157701e1fb6a.jpg)

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Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: Trevor Hale on April 23, 2020, 09:02:54 AM
Quote from: archen on April 23, 2020, 08:31:21 AMPrototype ready and sent for testing in Real 737 TQ.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200423/71d21d10926cb43584258e824dae6e10.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200423/3ea45d422d72c3ee2ed3157701e1fb6a.jpg)

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Brilliant engineering.  Well done.

Trev
Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: MistyBlue on April 23, 2020, 10:19:36 AM
Nicely done!  I'd be up for one of these but not sure it'll fit in my RevSim TQ.  Will have to get some dimensions.
Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: archen on April 23, 2020, 02:12:47 PM
Thanks Trev! 😊

Misty, that would be interesting to know if it would fit.

Br.
Anders
Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: kattz on April 24, 2020, 04:19:02 AM
Outstanding work, Anders!  When you make them, put me down for one, please.

I just bought the N1/SPD and autobrake switches from you.  Excited for their arrival!

Cheers!

Kev
Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: archen on April 25, 2020, 12:01:10 AM
Thanks a lot [emoji4] video coming today or during the weekend

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Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: archen on April 25, 2020, 08:22:31 AM
I'm also working on making the unit even smaller by realigning the solenoid and optimizing parts.

I think I'll be able to cut 30mm on the height and maybe a little on the width.

Always tight on space in simulators [emoji23]

Br.
Anders

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Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: archen on April 27, 2020, 07:04:28 AM
New version with smaller footprint

Dsub  moved to make more space for connector. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200427/99e7897773b7c91a57ed00a39b07e20f.jpg)

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Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: archen on April 27, 2020, 09:43:45 AM
Drawing with dimensions of V2.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/17RGddr_UH0WW0XXphfLOjoLq-c5_mL-w/view?usp=sharing


*edit* new link
Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: kurt-olsson on April 27, 2020, 12:17:34 PM
I just recieved mine!

Excellent quality!
This thing is really sturdy and is also very easy to mount due to predrilled holes/lines in the module.

I made a small video of this item that is used in my OEM throttle quadrant.
Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: kurt-olsson on April 27, 2020, 12:47:57 PM
The demo

https://youtu.be/xsqBU63LlJs
Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: archen on April 28, 2020, 02:07:11 AM
Support ticket created with prosim to implement support for the module.

I have also sent V2 to another simmer here in Sweden to be interfaced with prosim737.



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Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: KyleH on April 28, 2020, 04:06:05 AM
Sweet. I imagine I could adapt it for my 767?
Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: archen on April 28, 2020, 04:11:45 AM
Quote from: KyleH on April 28, 2020, 04:06:05 AMSweet. I imagine I could adapt it for my 767?
I'm not familiar with the 767 TQ but if it has a rod connecting the lever, it should work.

Can you measure the total travel between on and off position?

I have added 2 more holes on the leverarm so it will work with many different TQs.

Measure and let me know.

Br.
Anders

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Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: KyleH on April 28, 2020, 06:39:24 AM
Hi Ander,

I do not have a real 767 TQ, it's a purpose built simulated one for an FTD, and has no parking brake handle...yet.

I opened up the pedestal had had a look, there is lots of room for me to fabricate a mount.
The 767 parking brake is a handle on a rod that pulls up directly vertically so I'm thinking it would work fine.
No idea the distance it pulls up. I'll have to look into that.
Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: archen on April 28, 2020, 06:51:15 AM
Sounds like it will work easily. I'm also planning to offer a custom arm for those who have a on-off distance of longer than 4cm. But I think my design will cover most Quadrants.

Br.
Anders

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Title: Re: OEM 737 Throttle parking brake mechanism
Post by: archen on April 28, 2020, 09:08:41 AM
I have now ordered parts for 5 sets that will be the first batch. This batch will be shipped during mid to end of May or sooner.

I can only accept 5 orders to begin with. Batch #2 will follow in June.

Feedback from customers are highly valuable.

Price for these 5 sets are discounted to €235 excluding shipping and taxes (only for EU customers). The unit will sell for €295 when sold through the webshop during June.

Shipping flatrate €25 worldwide.

Comes completely assembled and wired. External diode is included. Dsub connector with solder cups is also included.

The product is not available in my shop yet so orders are accepted through private message or email. anders AT anderssimparts DOT Com.

First 5 confirmed orders will be accepted.

For info, or questions please keep it in the thread for everyone to see, but no orders in the thread pls.

Br.
Anders

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