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Title: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: XOrionFE on February 06, 2013, 06:34:53 AM
Well I went ahead and did it.  Bit the bullet and got two more 60" LED screens.  Now running each at 45 deg FOV for a total of 225 degree wrap.   This video is in Innsbruck scenery that comes free with X-Plane 10 on the demo.  Note, on the second video for some reason my Iphone went to portrait mode while filming.  I had it rotated on Youtube before publishing but seems it zoomed in.   Not sure how to fix but you get the general view anyway.

Hope you enjoy!

Scott

Part 1

http://youtu.be/YXry4oG5L8E (http://youtu.be/YXry4oG5L8E)

Part 2

http://youtu.be/myMZi8SE1Ec (http://youtu.be/myMZi8SE1Ec)
Title: Re: VIDEO - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: jskibo on February 06, 2013, 06:37:45 AM
I knew you would!  ;)

Damn, Scott now I have to come over again
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: blueskydriver on February 06, 2013, 07:31:43 AM
Told you so...you're the cutting edge!

John
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: jskibo on February 06, 2013, 07:47:15 AM
Scott,

Still 3 PC's?  letting the sides do 3840 x 1080?
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: XOrionFE on February 06, 2013, 07:52:12 AM
Quote from: jskibo on February 06, 2013, 07:47:15 AM
Scott,

Still 3 PC's?  letting the sides do 3840 x 1080?

No, I tried that and not only did it not look good but the frame hit was too high.   Running 5 PCs now.
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: jskibo on February 06, 2013, 08:06:17 AM
Ummm, wow!

So what's the specs on the PC's?  i5-3570K's?
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: XOrionFE on February 06, 2013, 08:16:45 AM
Quote from: jskibo on February 06, 2013, 08:06:17 AM
Ummm, wow!

So what's the specs on the PC's?  i5-3570K's?

The two extra ones are my older i7s that I use on my GA cockpit.  I just ran some DVI to HDMI cables from them and copied X-Plane to them and thats it.   One is an i7 920 with a GTX 550 card in it and the other is an i7 965 with a GTX 480 in it.   I want to upgrade both of these cards and that will allow me to turn on HDR mode along with turning up some of the rendering.    So I didnt have to buy more PCs, just hook up the two I already had.  Easy to switch them back and forth from the GA Pit to the 737 without having to buy more PCs.
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: blueskydriver on February 06, 2013, 09:00:12 AM
Scott,

I think Trevor will have to get "Drool Towels" made with the "Cockpit Builders" logo on them, so he can give them...uh, sell them too all the people who see your sim! I know my keyboard is drooled on...lol.  :laugh: Man, 5 60" LCD's and 5 PC's is an all new achievement for a home builder. I'd say it can't get much better than that...

Karen and I will for sure make another trip back to your place this Spring. Can't wait to get a couple of flights in with you...

John
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: jskibo on February 06, 2013, 09:02:55 AM
Good way to do it. 

My two spare PC's are Q6600 boxes with GT260's :(

Well, more Newegg and Microcenter sales to watch.....


....I'm also buying more ComEd stock with your new acquisitions :)
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: Maurice on February 06, 2013, 11:23:41 AM
Darn it Scott! I made a bet that you would have 5 screens running by this coming weekend and you jumped ahead and finished already. I was sooo close  ;D

Stunning graphics no doubt about it, but it unfortunately requires a fairly hefty financial outlay just for the visuals. But I guess that is the price you have to pay if you can afford it & cannot live with FSX weaknesses.

So, what is the next step for you Scott...5 high definition projectors or collimated displays maybe:) You are not the type that can rest on his laurels so I'm sure you must have your eyes on something else already if you are foolish enough not to stop and enjoy what you already have :)

Maurice
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: XOrionFE on February 06, 2013, 11:52:16 AM
Quote from: Maurice on February 06, 2013, 11:23:41 AM
Darn it Scott! I made a bet that you would have 5 screens running by this coming weekend and you jumped ahead and finished already. I was sooo close  ;D

Stunning graphics no doubt about it, but it unfortunately requires a fairly hefty financial outlay just for the visuals. But I guess that is the price you have to pay if you can afford it & cannot live with FSX weaknesses.

So, what is the next step for you Scott...5 high definition projectors or collimated displays maybe:) You are not the type that can rest on his laurels so I'm sure you must have your eyes on something else already if you are foolish enough not to stop and enjoy what you already have :)

Maurice

Haha
Well, in my case I was lucky enough to already have two extra PCs to run the extra TVs.  I just multipurposed my older GA PCs.  If you dont count those then I think the 5 displays come close to what my old projection setup cost when you add in the projector costs, screen costs, and multi licenses of warping software.   The sad thing is that I had spent on all the projectors then changed 2 years later to TVs.    Not for the faint of heart or pocket obviously.    But to be clear to all, I dont consider myself overindulgent with this setup.   This is my boat so to speak.   Many have recreational vehicles, second homes, etc as their luxury items and for me the drums and this sim are it.    Overall I feel I get more enjoyment out of my sim than just about anything else including real flying which I stopped almost two years ago.   I can fly my sim in any weather, anytime, and if I crash, I just reset it :-).  Not a bad investment in a hobby.    So adding the extra visuals for me was a small price to pay for the amount of entertainment it brings to me, my friends, and hopefully at some point my kids.     I had to have the best visual I could afford at this time and I believe this is the perfect setup for me.   At least for another couple years until the next great thing comes out that is  ::)

Scott
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: fsaviator on February 06, 2013, 11:56:57 AM
Dang, Scott.

That is really nice.  You've definitely set the bar on this one.  I can't wait to get home this weekend and finish putting my new computer together
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: Maurice on February 06, 2013, 12:21:44 PM
Trust me Scott, if I did not know myself as well as I do, I would be doing exactly what you are doing. There are 2 main things stopping me...first is my total fickleness & sudden loss of interest when it comes to current & past hobbies, and second is having to explain to my wife why I need to improve anything after telling her 20 times at least in the last 2 years that I was totally fed up and that the sim had to go (she talked me out of it several times).

So I don't think she would believe my explanations/'needs' and frankly,  neither do I . I could not justify it to her when I can't even justify it to myself :) .

Maurice
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: blueskydriver on February 06, 2013, 01:39:46 PM
Hi Scott,

Just a short off-topic bump here.

Maurice,

Got an idea for you. Jump in your car and drive to my house first, then drive to Scott's, then drive to Michael's and afterwards drive to John Skibo's. Trust me, you'll get a whole bunch of reasons why you're still doing this hobby, and don't say it'll just make you want what we either have or don't have.

Instead, it'll remind you that you're a part of something that is great and wonderful. Besides that, you'll see that what you have done with your sim is an inspiration for so many around the world and only dreams to others. You're like a "Yoda" of sim building and unlike him, you cannot go into exile. You have to prevail, even until your last days. That way we'll all be there saying "Maurice was the best and most die-hard sim builder. At times it was tough for him, but he stayed in it until the very end"...

So, if you get 5 screens like Scott, that'll be awesome, and if not, you still have a "kick-ass" sim.

May the "Sim" force be with you!

John
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: XOrionFE on February 06, 2013, 01:50:24 PM
ditto what John said.  i will also say i wish i could fly my 737 half as good as you Maurice.  if you ever come here you are the capt and i am fo in training!
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: dharrison on February 06, 2013, 01:59:31 PM
Scott,

Your nuts! looks like its time for me to redo that approach to Innsbruck.

See ya this weekend!!!

Don
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: Kennair on February 06, 2013, 02:32:34 PM
Wow!  Scott you've raised the bar so high now I can't even reach it  :-\  I like your analogy of it being your "boat" though, many people spend untold thousands on boats, cars and of course real planes so this hobby ranks up there as well and helps justify the expense to some degree.  Great setup, I'm tempted to make a trip across the pond to come visit.

And I third the comments on Maurices sim, regardless of Scott's insane setup Maurices is right up there ranking with the best, stick with it.

Ken.
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: Maurice on February 06, 2013, 02:34:59 PM
Oh John....me a Yoda of sim building??? Whatever it is you are smoking, I want some of it.
Scott is definitely a very worthy contender for that title as he is pushing the envelope and blazing a trail for other daring souls to follow.

And Scott, I'm not half as good as you think I am. Editing blunders out of the movies can do wonders to hide flying mistakes. :)

Maurice
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: Flying_Fox on February 06, 2013, 05:20:17 PM
Oh, noooo! Scott, you did it again!  :o
(running downstairs to workshop to continue MIP building.  :angel: :idiot:)

Nick
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: Boeing Skunk Works on February 06, 2013, 06:05:32 PM
Scott, Innsbruck never looked better in the sim! That's an awesome view around the cockpit.

You've done it again.
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: cmdurney on February 06, 2013, 07:14:09 PM
Scott thanks for sharing all your experience. It's great when someone in your position can help others  :)

Oh are you using REX with Xplane 10?

Cheers


Chris
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: Nat Crea on February 06, 2013, 10:25:55 PM
Looks insane Scott ; )

I'm slowly converting over to XP 10 right now. (thanks to Scott for
helping me with a few tech issues)
Luckily I'll get 200FOV with my current computers.
Just gotta go and re warp and blend...

Nat
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: blueskydriver on February 06, 2013, 11:22:01 PM
Now Maurice you know I don't smoke that funny stuff, I get mine in a little round p.i.l.l. (auto nanny had cookie for p.i.l.l.) form! Would you like some? In my world, my meds come in "Pez Dispensers"; however, I am still looking for the "make your own face on a Pez Dispenser" website...

As for Scott, nope he is not Yoda. He is Anikan Skywalker/Darth Vader! He was on the Rebellion Side with the projectors, but he switched to the Dark Side with those big black 60" LCDs. And, like Vader, he makes the Dark Side look cool. Sure, Yoda is cool looking too, being 3 projectors and all, but Damn, Darth Vader is doing that choke hold on us with the LCDs...lol.

You go Scott...uh, Lord Vader!

John
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: nicd on February 06, 2013, 11:32:09 PM
Cool Scott... that looks great! The 5-screen 225 setup has alot of merit and I'm finding that the perspective and immersion is right up there, but without all the zoom and alignment hassles. I'll have soime video evidence soon too .. nearly there :)
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: blueskydriver on February 07, 2013, 12:41:54 AM
Seriously, Karen and I were talking about this last night. She saw 70 or 72" LCD's for $1,700. Yes, a little more, but they'll come down eventually. Not that it'd make a big difference over 60", but my point is that at the rate LCD's are going we might see 60" for $500-$600 range by 4Q this year. So, when you calculate 5 each you get under the cost for three projectors easy, as well as you deduct the warping software cost. Yes, you'll need 5 computers to reach Scott's level, but more important is the fact that the scope is changing for visuals.

That doesn't mean we all run out and buy LCDs, but it means that people starting out can jump into the LCDs at a lower price range than what most of us old timers...lol...started out with. In other words, it should make it easier for the community to get bigger and thus, prices to come down across the board. Assuming, we're talking Econ 101...

I am glad that Scott made the transition and is showing us his work. I wonder how motion would work in the LCD world? Sam is likely watching all this and thinking about it I bet.

John
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: XOrionFE on February 07, 2013, 03:09:24 AM
Thank you all for the very nice comments.     

I am really happy of course that I made the swtch to TVs and will be very happy with this setup for a long time to come.    I think the next evolution is probably bezeless LED tvs or flexible bendable LEDs but we'll all have to wait and see.  Three years ago when Ivar Hestness shocked us all with his warping of projection and Nat followed on with his setup (actually might have been the other way around...I'm not sure) I was blown away and had to do that setup.  I enjoyed it for two years and if I hadn't of gone to the FDS Openhouse/CB get together last year and listened to James Price and Matt Ford talking about X-Plane and Peter Cos mentioning that at the time he thought it could have a bright future I probably wouldn't be here today.  One thing kinda led to another.   Curse those guys for I probably would have been 15 K richer right now!   :o

What I need to do now is finish up my Pedestal and radios and then start flying again.   I wold like to get to the level of Maurice, Jack, Trevor, Michael Carter (aka 727 flyer extraordinaire), and my friends CP and Don.   I have all this great setup but ask me to perform an arrival into LAX on a busy day with Vatsim or Pilot edge and I would crumble.  Maybe I could con Mike Leavy into spending a weekend out hear showing me the finer points of 737 flying.  In fact, it would be great to me if some of you guys would start up a thread discussing your favorite flights and the nuances of them.  Would really kick the motivation into higher gear

Thanks again for the nice comments, encouragement, and friendships.

Scott
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: Bob Reed on February 07, 2013, 03:46:45 AM
Ummmmm.......  :huh: Where is the video?  ;D
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: XOrionFE on February 07, 2013, 03:53:28 AM
Quote from: Bob Reed on February 07, 2013, 03:46:45 AM
Ummmmm.......  :huh: Where is the video?  ;D

Links on first post of thread
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: Sam Llorca on February 07, 2013, 04:05:46 AM
Hey Bob, you don't want to watch that video, is way too good, the scenery is awesome and the wrap around set up is out of this world, after I watched it I cry for two hours, forget projectors guys!!!
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: XOrionFE on February 07, 2013, 04:32:26 AM
Quote from: Sam Llorca on February 07, 2013, 04:05:46 AM
Hey Bob, you don't want to watch that video, is way too good, the scenery is awesome and the wrap around set up is out of this world, after I watched it I cry for two hours, forget projectors guys!!!

Hey Sam, of course you are welcome up here anytime.   I would love to fly your beast again someday.  I am heading down to Sanibel in the second week of March.  Not sure how far that is from you.   You have the ultimate motion machine and will never forget flying it at FDS last year.
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: Sam Llorca on February 07, 2013, 04:53:27 AM
Thank you Scott, I'm about one hour north of Sanibel, you are always welcome, maybe you can fix my flashing CDU's, great set up there with the LED's, it blew my mind!!! Take care Scott and Ill see you in March, cheers.
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: blueskydriver on February 07, 2013, 05:03:03 AM
Do say what? You still have the flashing CDU's? OMG! I thought someone was coming to fix them Sam?

John
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: Sam Llorca on February 07, 2013, 07:37:20 AM
Nope, I was waiting for you since last November!!!, No one wants to come to florida, too hot!! The flashing CDU's are an issue but I don't want to make a big deal about it, I tried a few things but to be honest I'm afraid to touch anything else I may screw something else instead and I rather wait until I get the right help from someone who knows what is doing, Good to hear from you John, take care and hope to see you soon.
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: blueskydriver on February 07, 2013, 09:56:40 AM
Sam,

PM me address again.

John
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: N737AG on February 07, 2013, 10:15:56 AM
Hey Scott

Great to have you in Florida in March. Maybe I'll join yo too in trying to figure Sam's flickering CDU's out.

Axel
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: BimmerCop on February 08, 2013, 10:02:17 PM
That is an awesome setup, Scott!!!

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Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: Sean on February 10, 2013, 10:11:55 AM
Scott, that's the strongest argument I've seen to date for TV's over projectors. I'm really impressed with your setup.

I'm in Florida next week for 2 weeks holiday. How easy is it to get to Sugar Grove, IL???

Sean
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: XOrionFE on February 10, 2013, 10:41:58 AM
Hi Sean,  it is about a 2.5 hr flight up to Chicago (either to ORD or MDW) from Orlando.   I live about 45 minutes from either and happy to play taxi so long as outside my work hours which is basically normal business hours .  You are more than welcome to come by if you have the opportunity.  Just let me know so I can coordinate with you.

Scott
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: Aerosim Solutions on February 10, 2013, 02:04:21 PM
Hi Scott,
Just when I've decided which projectors to get, Nthusim etc your video throws a huge spanner in the works. Now I'm back at the crossroads - cheers Scott! Your set up looks awesome, this is going to need a deep rethink. I was planning on doing my visuals this August, my new year's resolution - to get my sim going again this year and I think it is do-able!!!

Cheers Gwyn
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: rhysb on February 12, 2013, 01:18:54 PM
Scott,

I have been away working for a couple of weeks and just catching up with posts now.

As an xplane convert like yourself I can honestly say this is epic! Looks awesome bud. Great stuff.

I'm on the next flight to Chicago!!!

PS I don't have Innsbruck in my copies of xplane??

Rhys b
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: fsaviator on February 12, 2013, 02:40:42 PM
Now here is the real question Scott, since you're using LCDs...

have you tried to run 3D on them yet through the video card?  I just discovered the 3D preview feature for my 670.  Wow.  Even with just a cheap pair of stereoscopic (red/blue) glasses I was blown away.  I can't imagine what that would look like on your five surround screens.
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: jskibo on February 12, 2013, 03:35:45 PM
Careful Warren, Scott won't get any work done then. 
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: XOrionFE on February 12, 2013, 03:44:26 PM
Quote from: rhysb on February 12, 2013, 01:18:54 PM
Scott,

I have been away working for a couple of weeks and just catching up with posts now.

As an xplane convert like yourself I can honestly say this is epic! Looks awesome bud. Great stuff.

I'm on the next flight to Chicago!!!

PS I don't have Innsbruck in my copies of xplane??

Rhys b

Thank you Rhys

You are welcome anytime!    As for Innsbruck....I think it came with the demo.
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: XOrionFE on February 12, 2013, 03:49:00 PM
Quote from: fsaviator on February 12, 2013, 02:40:42 PM
Now here is the real question Scott, since you're using LCDs...

have you tried to run 3D on them yet through the video card?  I just discovered the 3D preview feature for my 670.  Wow.  Even with just a cheap pair of stereoscopic (red/blue) glasses I was blown away.  I can't imagine what that would look like on your five surround screens.

Hmmm, I will have to check that.  I know my TVs don't have the 3d feature but not sure about mp my cards.
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: BimmerCop on February 12, 2013, 03:51:15 PM
Scott, you think I would be able to get away with 55" TVs instead of 60"? I am doing a C172SP cockpit and my MIP is just 40 1/2" wide. I ran some quick numbers and with 55" TVs, I would end up with a diameter of 9.5 feet which would have me almost 5 feet away from the TVs. Does this sound right? 5 feet from 55" TVs would be almost an optimal viewing distance, but I want to make sure I got my math correct.

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Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: XOrionFE on February 12, 2013, 04:20:26 PM
Quote from: BimmerCop on February 12, 2013, 03:51:15 PM
Scott, you think I would be able to get away with 55" TVs instead of 60"? I am doing a C172SP cockpit and my MIP is just 40 1/2" wide. I ran some quick numbers and with 55" TVs, I would end up with a diameter of 9.5 feet which would have me almost 5 feet away from the TVs. Does this sound right? 5 feet from 55" TVs would be almost an optimal viewing distance, but I want to make sure I got my math correct.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

55s would probably be fine for a 172.  In fact maybe even 47s but the problem is that the smaller you go the shorter the height and really the closer in you want to bring them to the cockpit so you don't see the edges.
Title: Re: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: BimmerCop on February 12, 2013, 04:52:28 PM
Quote from: XOrionFE on February 12, 2013, 04:20:26 PM
Quote from: BimmerCop on February 12, 2013, 03:51:15 PM
Scott, you think I would be able to get away with 55" TVs instead of 60"? I am doing a C172SP cockpit and my MIP is just 40 1/2" wide. I ran some quick numbers and with 55" TVs, I would end up with a diameter of 9.5 feet which would have me almost 5 feet away from the TVs. Does this sound right? 5 feet from 55" TVs would be almost an optimal viewing distance, but I want to make sure I got my math correct.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

55s would probably be fine for a 172.  In fact maybe even 47s but the problem is that the smaller you go the shorter the height and really the closer in you want to bring them to the cockpit so you don't see the edges.

Yea, that's exactly what I thought. I think in my situation, 55" would be a good compromise. Thanks, Scott.

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Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: rhysb on February 14, 2013, 12:12:26 PM
Scott,

What traffic program are you using for the traffic at the airport?

Thanks

Rhys b
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: XOrionFE on February 14, 2013, 12:23:47 PM
Quote from: rhysb on February 14, 2013, 12:12:26 PM
Scott,

What traffic program are you using for the traffic at the airport?

Thanks

Rhys b

nothing extra.  Just built in
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: Sean on February 27, 2013, 04:45:15 AM
Quote from: XOrionFE on February 10, 2013, 10:41:58 AM
Hi Sean,  it is about a 2.5 hr flight up to Chicago (either to ORD or MDW) from Orlando.   I live about 45 minutes from either and happy to play taxi so long as outside my work hours which is basically normal business hours .  You are more than welcome to come by if you have the opportunity.  Just let me know so I can coordinate with you.

Scott

Sorry Scott, just catching up with the forums now, sat round the pool with a cuppa first thing in the morning. What a life! Of all the countries the British Empire once 'ruled', why on earth did we keep the one with the worst weather?!?

Thanks for the invite. By normal working hours, I take it you work Monday to Friday, and weekends are free? Not sure if I'll be able to escape yet, but I can work on it! What's the weather like up there, you had any of the snow I keep seeing on TV?

Sean
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: XOrionFE on February 27, 2013, 06:49:15 PM
Yes normally Monday through Friday I am pretty busy with work during the day.  That said, if you could only visit during a weekday I can work it out if I know in advance.  I dictate my own hours but if I have customer appointments I have to juggle them around which can be tough.

Scott
Title: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: BimmerCop on March 09, 2013, 10:50:41 PM
Scott, quick question...

How high should the monitors be placed?

In my case, I am building a C172SP cockpit and I have 46" HDTVs... so my question would be... where on the screen should the top of my MIP be?

Thanks for any help...


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Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: XOrionFE on March 10, 2013, 03:56:38 AM
Quote from: BimmerCop on March 09, 2013, 10:50:41 PM
Scott, quick question...

How high should the monitors be placed?

In my case, I am building a C172SP cockpit and I have 46" HDTVs... so my question would be... where on the screen should the top of my MIP be?

Thanks for any help...


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I would place them however it works best when you are looking from inside so as to avoid seeing the top and bottom edges of the monitor.   The vertical fov and offset can be easily adjusted within x-plane later so that you get the correct horizon perspective to taste but probably most important for placement is just to have them close enough in and centered vertically in a way to avoide seeing the edges if possible.

Hope that helps,
Scott
Title: Re: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: BimmerCop on March 10, 2013, 06:49:01 AM
Quote from: XOrionFE on March 10, 2013, 03:56:38 AM
Quote from: BimmerCop on March 09, 2013, 10:50:41 PM
Scott, quick question...

How high should the monitors be placed?

In my case, I am building a C172SP cockpit and I have 46" HDTVs... so my question would be... where on the screen should the top of my MIP be?

Thanks for any help...


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I would place them however it works best when you are looking from inside so as to avoid seeing the top and bottom edges of the monitor.   The vertical fov and offset can be easily adjusted within x-plane later so that you get the correct horizon perspective to taste but probably most important for placement is just to have them close enough in and centered vertically in a way to avoide seeing the edges if possible.

Hope that helps,
Scott

Gotcha, thanks Scott!

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Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: Trevor Hale on March 19, 2013, 08:56:19 AM
Wow!  Don't know how I missed this thread, but I think I just messed my pants!

5????  Are you freeking kidding me?  Awesome stuff!

Trev

Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: XOrionFE on March 19, 2013, 11:41:23 AM
Yep, 5.  And 5 seperate computers to run them.    I must be insane... :o

Scott
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: rhysb on March 19, 2013, 02:23:31 PM
Scott,

I'm no doctor but yeah your completely nuts  :)  :P
Title: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: baudie on March 19, 2013, 05:46:32 PM
What an amazing setup Scott. Congratz! May I ask how wide is that room and also how long from back of cockpit to front screen.

You make people dream of similar setups, but I'm not sure my room is big enough. Thank you for showing the videos :-)

Best regards
Baudie
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: XOrionFE on March 19, 2013, 06:30:32 PM
Thank you Baudie.    Glad you like it.

My room is exactly 12 ft wide and from the front screen to the back side of my cockpit shell including my back wall is 8ft but you need a little room behind the front screen and also room for the computers.   My whole room in that area is 12 ft wide by 16ft long.

I hope that helps.

Scott
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: hirail22 on March 27, 2013, 03:26:03 PM
Hi Scott,
Could I ask where you got your boeing decals at the rear of your sim from?

Steve
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: blueskydriver on March 27, 2013, 06:28:41 PM
Yes, ditto on the decals? I would like a set for the back of my sim...

John
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: XOrionFE on March 27, 2013, 06:38:56 PM
I just picked some logos off the Internet, had them blown up to the size I wanted, and had a local vinyl shop cut them for me.   

Scott
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: cmdurney on April 16, 2013, 06:32:28 PM
Hello. Okay I've installed xplane 10.21 64bit / with latest xpuipc. Also installed x737... Love the quality of xplane!
I'm trying to use this with SA. Do I need to change any settings within x737 to disable system logic etc? I only ask because I can't start the engines...

Thanks  :)
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: Nat Crea on April 16, 2013, 09:35:13 PM
Chris,

Delete the X737 plugin in the x737 plugin folder and check the
"Xplane acceleration" box in the SimA Server

Nat
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: cmdurney on April 16, 2013, 10:03:49 PM
Nat, Thankyou!!!! :)
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: Nat Crea on April 17, 2013, 05:48:48 PM
Oh..and make sure you use the XPlane flight model in SimA too...

Nat
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: goof2092 on May 29, 2013, 08:35:52 AM
All,

Using inspiration from Scott, I spent last week-end making mock-up for TV screens. I can confirm that if you have the FDS shell, the very minimum size needed is 60" otherwise the height if the screen is sufficient. I was not just sure so needed to test it.
See here: http://meditrak.me/zac/blog/ (http://meditrak.me/zac/blog/)


cheers

Anthony
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: sagrada737 on May 30, 2013, 04:05:50 PM
Nice setup Anthony.  I enjoyed the photos on your Sim blog. 
Also, you are a lucky man to have such a helpful Crew  :) 

Mike
Title: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: goof2092 on June 02, 2013, 08:15:23 PM
Many thanks. Yours has been one of the fastest builds I have seen so far!!
The 70" inch LED TVs look great in your video. Any plans for 2 more to create wrap around?

Anthony.


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Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: sagrada737 on June 03, 2013, 05:15:49 AM
Hello Anthony,

I keep plugging away at my Sim Project.  In total, the typical Sim setup belies the complexities of the various hardware and software interactions necessary for a smooth running (and reliable) simulator experience for one's HomeCockpit.  In some respects, it reminds me of flying a helicopter, where every physiological nut and bolt in your body is on high alert and needs to function correctly and in-concert with everything else in order for the flight to survive.  Truly...  It is amazing to me how well our Sims run to produce the immersion experience we desire.  The joy of a finely tuned simulator setup far outweigh the myriad hassles in getting to that point, where each and every flight is like crossing a finish line race - where sometimes, we are just glad that we made it through.

As far as adding more outside display screens to my Sim Project...  I think I will stick with the current setup for the next year or so.  The 70" LED monitors are truly hassle free, and do a great job of rendering the visuals no matter what the ambient lighting conditions.  So I will stay with 3 monitors for now.  I have been making some changes to the display properities in FSX with undocked views.  I'll post something on this today.

Best wishes on your project.  It is so nice that you allow your kids to "explore" your Sim.  Perhaps some day, they will aspire to become pilots, and realize the dream that you eluded to in your Blog.  Until that time, keep encouraging them and let them know you love them more than your Sim Project - then both will flourish.

Keep your airspeed up!

Mike
Title: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: goof2092 on June 03, 2013, 11:05:20 AM
Mike,
Just watched your video with docked visuals, what a treat!! I felt a little woozy would you believe!!

You are right, sometimes I selfishly wish one of them three daughters takes up flying. It would be very nice and hopefully the interest being shown now could grow. Most of the time though the 6 year old asks if I need a beer as I solder while the 10 year old wants to take off but cant reach the rudder pedals:- more reason I need to sort out the linked controls so I can steer for her at take off ;)

Please keep the updates flowing. Very inspiring stuff.

Anthony




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Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: markfire on June 04, 2013, 04:17:19 PM
Hi All,

I'm new in here and a buddy of Andrew737, i also know Rhys. Just thought i'd introduce myself as i'm currently building a 737 sim in my garage/ now cabin in garden. I currently run FSX and Xplane 10 using wideview on 5 x40" HD TV's connected to I7 server and 4 I5 clients. My A/C of choice at present is the Ifly 737 and having been on the dev team getting the Cockpit Builders Edition in shape i cant rate it more highly. Very simple setup regarding the MIP displays and CDU's and great performance. However, i'm looking at changing to ProSim as its really coming on and should be ok for both platforms (FSX, XP10)  Can anyone please advise on ProSim as the right choice or are Sim Avionics king?

Also a quick question for XOrionFE (Scott), whats the minium width i'd need to run three 60" TV's like yours?  I have 3m's both ways. 5x40" gives nice perspective but i think 3m wide might be too bigger angle?

Great posts on here Guys and thanks in advance for any comments regarding my queries.

Rhys, if you're in my neck of the woods any time soon, there's a coffee and sim time waiting : )

Also if any of you seasoned builders live in or around Essex, it would be nice to get in contact and exchange views etc.

Thanks for hearing me.



Mark
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: XOrionFE on June 04, 2013, 04:39:08 PM
Hello Mark and welcome.

First, I have Sim-A as well as Prosim and both are great.   Currently Prosim does not work with X-plane but I am sure it will eventually.   My suggestion is to try their trials and see what works better for you.   

As for the screens, for my setup with 60" screens my space is 3.6 meters wide.

I hope that helps.

Best regards,
Scott
Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: markfire on June 04, 2013, 04:59:33 PM
Scott

Thanks for the quick reply. I've tried to get on with Xplane but there so much more to fix before it becomes a FSX beater, so i'm going to concentrate on FSX. Ive tried Prosim and its quite nice apart from all the modules you have to run.

I think i might get away with 3 x 60" screens. Have to have a measure up tomorrow.

Loving your sim and setup mate and thanks again for the reply.

regards

Mark
Title: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: goof2092 on September 28, 2013, 05:50:08 AM
Old thread here. Scott, have you seen this post in the x-plane cockpit builders forum? It's talking of running multiple views from a single x-plane instance. I believe you have this software. Any chance you can test it using you LED TVs?
http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/topic/70662-MultiView-plugin-system-for-X-Plane-9/10page__view__findpost__p__765701 (http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/topic/70662-MultiView-plugin-system-for-X-Plane-9/10page__view__findpost__p__765701)


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Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: XOrionFE on September 28, 2013, 07:13:53 AM
That is pretty interesting stuff Anthony.  I may test it.   My guess is it would kill framerates though at 1920x1080 per screen but who knows...x-plane is 64 bit and can fully take advantage of all hardware in a system.
Title: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: goof2092 on September 28, 2013, 09:52:59 AM
Thanks Scott. Whenever you have the time the test would be great.
I am convicted I need LED TVs but not so keen on 5 PCs  yet ;)

Anthony


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Title: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: goof2092 on October 10, 2013, 08:09:52 PM
Hi Scott,
See reply from James Price in the x-plane forums when I asked about his config. Now getting more interesting with x-plane and multiple views
http://mandrillapp.com/track/click.php?u=30078526&id=5171ef45d40247f493220e4780804a0a&url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.x-plane.org%2Findex.php%3Fshowtopic%3D70662%26view%3Dgetnewpost&url_id=f15ccdd01f7dd7c89b23a9dfd3d5e087b0a15474 (http://mandrillapp.com/track/click.php?u=30078526&id=5171ef45d40247f493220e4780804a0a&url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.x-plane.org%2Findex.php%3Fshowtopic%3D70662%26view%3Dgetnewpost&url_id=f15ccdd01f7dd7c89b23a9dfd3d5e087b0a15474)

Seems like it can be done with single computer

Anthony

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Title: Re: VIDEOS - X-Plane 10 on 5 LED 60" TVs - 225 degree view - Innsbruck
Post by: MartinMoerman on September 30, 2014, 08:38:35 PM
Hi,

Am new to this area ..

currently making my plan to build a 737 cockpit, but want to prepare the kitlist.

I checked the video and its very very (x1000) nice.

But I wonder how you got the screens sync up, you say 5 computers, what software / config you use to let them work together as one big view ?

thnx
Martin
The Hague
The Netherlands