Hey Everyone,
The CB seems a little quiet lately, so how about this...tell us what you did for your flight simulator today, no matter how big or small, just say what you did regarding your project.
Mind you this is not just for members who have fullsize cockpits, but everyone no matter what you have, if you fly it (or plan to), then it counts! Plus, I have seen so many new user names, but not many posts from them. So, why not post today on this thread? Even if you're just researching or dreaming about your project, tell me/us all about it.
Oh yeah, even if you did jack-diddley nothing on your project, then just say that, or how about a joke? You could even type your wishlist for 2018...heck yeah...Wish List Day! Post your wish list for your sim project or desktop sim, doesn't matter just get the conversation going... :idiot:
- I will start by saying I posted my cockpits that are for sale on Craigslist. Yes, sounds funny, but I sold the fire truck simulator that way, so who knows, I might sell the cockpits this way.
- Regarding my simulator project in general; well, Karen and I purchased a floor buffer to shine and protect the simulator hanger floors, which are concrete that were not sealed. Therefore, water has been soaking into the floor, as well as ice melting salt has left some scarring because we used it the first winter and it's not a good idea to use salt for at least a year or so on new concrete. We found that out the hard way...lol...get it? You even get a joke out of that one...
- In regards to my project(s) for today, we got our CR-10S 3d printer delivered yesterday and I will be putting it together tonight. My plan is to print out some knobs and such or at least try too. I have never used one before, so it's time for trial and error learning...yep, I purchased 6 spools of plastic filament, hope that's enough to print at least one knob...lol!
Okay, now it's everyone else's turn, so please post today...it would be awesome too see 100+ people reply to this thread.
Have a great day! :)
John
I am chasing problems with my sim. Purely by coincidence, when installing Prosim v2, I lost my rudder inputs (hardware failure) and most of the gauges in the forward overhead. And yes - purely coincidence, but it took me hours to convince myself of this since they are all hardware issues and not software. So today I hope to at least get rudder inputs back on line.
Next weekend (Saturday) a local high school Jr Air Force ROTC unit is flying my sim. So it needs to be nice.
Waiting for my hangover to end...
But i did some measurements research today at least. :)
Not much time over for my own sim which is in pieces in our storage.
I'm planning on something smaller at the moment, more like an IFR training module to keep my IFR skills up to date.
Still researching what aircraft to use and the design of the module. I want an aircraft which is simple to get up and running and not too complicated. I've tried carenado 350i, nice aircraft but don't like the avionics. Now waiting for PMDG J41.
The goal of the module is to have it small and compact so you can easily remove it from the desk. It will not be a copy of any actual aircraft. It will only be a couple of screens and switches for the most important functions.
Br,
Anders
Skickat från min SM-G955F via Tapatalk
Got a New 3D Printer, and I am printing Gauge Faces for my 5 CoPilot Gauges, which will be controlled from my arduino.
I also installed my Overhead And have to print some roof filler pieces to stop the back light from bleeding out around it.
Researched replacing the Analogue Gauges in our 737-800 Sim, and tried to figure out why the Potentiometers on the rudder pedals weren't centering up.
Have almost accepted I may have to take them out to determine the issue....maybe! :huh:
Managed to get some fun time in, took the sim around the Mach Loop is North Wales. Need to look at integrating TacPack at some point so we can go Sub Hunting P-8 style.
Spent the last tree days dismantling my small 3DOF motion platform and moving it into
my garage for selling. Found out the door was to narrow to get it out. My garage is hellish
hot at this time. As expected things dont work properly so now have to spend more time
working out whats wrong.
Currently working on a FCU/EFIS (DIY) for a A320 Cockpit.
At least i can still fly my Cessna C177 OEM based console to keep me sane.
Hope you all had a great Xmas and those of you experiencing winter are not FREEZING.
Les
I too bought a 3D printer and I have been printing like mad. Yes I have printed parts for the cockpit. I am also in the middle of a massive upgrade to the cockpit on several fronts. First stage is installing the new to me MIP. That is getting there. With the help of my brother 2 of the panels are wired and ready to interface. Should finish the rest in the next couple of day. All the brakets for mounting are all installed and waiting for the MIP panels. This will be a huge upgrade. Next up is to completely re-do the overhead... OUCH.. That one is going to hurt. And while all this is going on I have a new to me TQ hat will be delivered at some point and that will need to be installed.... Lots going on!!! Just too busy to sit and type.. Oh well out the door!!!!
I did alot!
-My MIP is up and running in Prosim 2.0 using a SYS4X card.
-I've got the second system up and running to get the DUs working.
-having fits calibrating my flight controls
I decided to build a small GA sim to keep me flying while the 737 is (STILL) under construction.
It took me a weekend to build using my CNC; of course the radio stuff is Go-flight and the yoke, trim and pedals are Saitek. But it's great to be back flying again.
Joe.
Hi All,
Well.. I had a day that was exciting and depressing. A CP Flight rudder trim gauge I had purchased came in. That was really exciting and I couldn't wait to get home to install it in the sim. Sadly, 10 minutes after I installed it, I fried it with a shot of static electricity. It took me by surprise. I guess it was a combination of dry winter air, my cloth covered auto seat and a non grounded OEM pedestal. So now, I'm researching best practices of grounding the sim.
I haven't done much since last November but I did move it back three feet do to a roof leak, now is not dripping on the windshield, I have a bucket collecting water between the screen and the sim when it rains, tried to fix the leak for the third time but I give up, can't find the sucker.
I need to upgrade to Prosim 2.0 but I'm waiting a bit longer till the bugs are sorted out plus I'M SCARE!!!!
Question: Is it 3D printer season?
Glad to see everyone posting, so if nobody minds, let's extend this for the week that way the people who do not check the CB as often can chime in...please?
It's amazing too hear what everyone is doing with their projects and that makes Cockpit Builders site the best in my book.
Hi Sam, yes it seems too be the latest trend and with the Thingiverse website that has 3d print files for free downloading, it's making the task of learning to use a 3d printer much easier. I checked on the trending models and it seems the CR-10 S (with upgrade) is the most sought after unit because of it's size and reliability. I purchased mine through GearBest.com for around $500 US and I also got 5 spools of plastic (not ABS though, I will use that once I know how to use the machine better).
If you're interested, look at Gear Best and watch some YouTube videos like this one:
https://youtu.be/kbmdwBwm7BU
He is talking about the CR-10, but he also has another video on his chanbel about the S models and what the upgrades are about...
John
Ps avoid using the "save money" or "promo codes" links in any videos because most are outdated or can be scams...
My latest upgrade was BFF Shaker for my vibration system. Works good, however I miss my Accu-Feel that does not work with P3Dv4.1 and nobody knows for sure when it will be upgraded.
For last year quite a lot of things happened:
- my second GT720projector failed and I replaced my visual system with Optoma GT1080 Darbee projectors (still working with old screen so far).
- I moved from P3Dv3.4 straight to P3Dv4.1 (had to upgrade to 256 GB SSD for Windows drive and 1 TB SSD for P3Dv4.1).
Most of my backlighting in overhead failed - it was a bad batch of LED stripes and I had to replace all LEDS in it. (Another LED batch in MIP backlighting works for 4 years with no problems). Now it's all working again.
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- Recently installed UT Live for traffic and Rex Sky Force for clouds and playing with combinations of all texture/shader/weather packages.
Like this:
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:2cw:
Not exactly today but last week I installed a remote volume controller for one of the slave computers in the cockpit. I have two speakers in the roof available for when we are using VATSIM. The headsets still work but we can turn up the ATC for others to hear, I have always had this but it meant going around to the front of the sim to make volume adjustments. It was a bit of an ordeal to remove the control pot from one of the 5.1 system speakers and extend the wiring but it is in now and so successful I added iTunes to that PC so we can play music in the cockpit! The next major job is constructing a back wall to mount a set of real circuit breakers. I want to have this back wall removable and the plan is to hang the two box sections on a trolley rail so they can be pushed outwards out of the way. Cheers Gwyn
I've spent the past several weeks interfacing a Garmin MX-20 to X-Plane 11 via Teensy. (With little to no documentation on the X-Plane side regarding this process.)
Had to first reverse-engineer the serial conversation coming from X-Plane, fix it, then eventually resend to the MX-20.
This project requires a ton of coding because with every step forward it takes 3 steps back.
Spent 8 hrs Saturday working on the -300 Pressurization Control Panel after Rob had replaced all the belts and did much of the wiring to the teensy. I had the code just aboutbsorted but noticed the FLT ALT was Inop....
Upon removal and further inspection found a broken shaft....ugh...
One step forward, two steps back...
So after that ....
I worked on this...
Ahhhhh, so you still have that! :)
Clean up! Galley check: fridge, coffee machine. Vacuum cleaner work. Load Ball Units at the F/O Seat replaced, Rails cleaned and some unevenness fixed.
I´m a good cleaning worker! Don´t tell my spouse......
special Items ahead: System change PM to ProSim 2.0
Fine tuning Calibration Pro/DisplayPro
Rework the opencockpits pedals (exchange the plastic..)
Sim flying: circling with fixed power settings
training of RNAV approaches
Online-flying and testing EFB Software
I changed out a pc that wasn't running the greatest, tested and some new software and then did some touch and go's at Kai Tak. Once I was done I spent a few hours waiting for a parking spot. :laugh:
Thank you John for the 3D printer information, maybe next year, way too busy right now to learn 3D printing.
Cheers!
Quote from: bravolima on January 15, 2018, 09:19:29 PM
I´m a good cleaning worker! Don´t tell my spouse......
Funny, we all seem to be good at keeping the sim areas clean, but the rest of the house we are no good at that. LOL
funny... must be a winter virus
Did some clean up too after the SimA install
Put the center post fairing and the glareshield back on, dusted the shell.
Still have to
-replace the led strip over the MCP (do not fit with the new MX MCP.)
-wire the OXY test
- rearrange the rats nest of wires and cables in front of the shell, this time only two computers instead of 5...better.
Flew my first approach RTT to LOWI overcast low vis. and winter. (with the new ORBX scenery) Whaoo!
Scott: I love those blue belts! nice panel..there was another one recently on EBay reasonnably priced...rare
Gary: Your 74 is gorgeous ...more pics !
Uhmmm....This past weekend was spent helping out on a home improvement project at my daughter and son-in-law's place in Arlington VA.
My sim has been down since right after WorldFlight to accommodate a major upgrade of all my computer hardware and software....6 computers total. This involves building 4 new I7-8700K computers to run my WideView visuals and re-purposing 2 old Visual computers for avionics. Also involves moving ahead to P3dv4 for the visuals and SimAvionics 1.80 for the avionics. All that is a tremendous effort loading software add-ons across 4 computers for WV, not the least of which was f---ing WIN 10 updates screwing things up along the way!
The project is 90% complete now. P3Dv4 is running truly amazingly on the hardware! SimA also has many new features...working through some minor issues there.
Of course one thing always leads to another with this hobby. Seeing the amazing results for the P3Dv4 visuals I decided to also invest in the newer Optoma GT1080 Darbees that will replace my older Optoma GT1080s. I have never really been satisfied with the color uniformity across the Optoma projectors (that is, one vs. the other), and in the 3 -4 years that I have had them such has been deteriorating further. I am not sure if this is due to the lamp life or deterioration in the chip electronics. So I decided to do a leap of faith in investing in the new Darbee version which promises improvements in color representation and detail sharpness....so we shall see. The only good thing about the Optomas is the price.
I will report separately on what I find with the Darbees, and I will be putting my old Optomas up for sale if anyone is interested. Each one works fine as a stand-alone, but I would not recommend them for a multiple projector setup given the color uniformity issue.
FredK
So I have been pulling my hair out trying to get my Revolution Simproducts Motorized TQ working again. I really really wish I was better with SIOC coding. On top of that it appears one of my motors may not be working...
I have now resorted to open-TQ surgery to determine the root of the problem. Anyone have a v1.5 motorized TQ script from RSP that works? Its the one with two DC motorcards and a joystick card for the buttons.
It's one step forward, one step back here as I try to remember how to do all this stuff again.
David, highly restpected SIOC Doctor could probably help you... ::)
Updated from P3D v3.4 to V4.1 Much smoother operation for the visuals than with V3.4.
Quote from: jackpilot on January 17, 2018, 05:30:11 AM
David, highly restpected SIOC Doctor could probably help you... ::)
I'll figure out the mechanicals this weekend and then I can figure out exactly what isn't working right on the script.
Hey Warren, very interesting to see inside that TQ, who designed that jumble of levers, cogs and switches. It looks very confusing, so good luck sorting that out ;D ;D
I've started building a new TQ myself but I've decided against motorising the throttle levers, I can''t face the complexity of the design, or the programming of the motors for that matter. Once I get my deck up and running I may have another go at it, let's see if I get bored at some point. :idiot:
Lots to do on this yet, but it's starting to look like a TQ, thanks to the trim wheels from my mate Gwyn at Aerosim Solutions.
Joe.
Aluminum...yeah!
Gwyn made my flaps gate too, years ago , bulletproof !
Try to get some black Otto push buttons for the AT disc. the red mini push are too flimsy and the feel is so much different
[ebay]202110224380[/ebay]
Jack
Just so that folks know this - my OEM TQ that was rebuilt for simulation use by Northern FlightSim and using my electronics design has NO, repeat NO coding what so ever. The electronics are natively controlled by Prosim.
So take the fear out of building a TQ by knowing that there are designs that require no coding what so ever. :)
So.. what are those designs? :-\
So lay it on us, show us these designs.... :) :) :)
Jack, I did have some bigger switches (more substantial), but they looked too big in relation to the real ones.
Incidentally those Otto switches cost $10$ plus £20$ postage, they're even more over here. :(
These are the other switches I have in stock... which one?
Joe.
Ok - glad folks are interested in a TQ design with no coding. Let me put together a document this weekend and I'll post it. Glad to share all I have found from others on this forum.
Jim: Thank you, open a new post for that..
Joe those black push buttons are OK but they are "soft". The Otto (or other aero brands) have a firm click when you push.
No big deal anyway.
I used 4 of them on the aft overhead
You're right Jack, they are soft. I'll see if I can source better ones locally.
Jim,
I'm really looking forward to that, might even change my current design and try for the full motorised deal., 8)
Joe.
That would be great Jim! Look forward to seeing that document..
Joe... it is actually pretty ingenious for its time. Works great when it does, and solid as a rock.
I am on the road for a couple of months rolling out a new IT system so have not had any sim time since November, but this thread is getting me keen to restart when i am finished :)
PS, for those in the middle of winter, spare a though for a fat man ripping offices apart and re-fitting them in the heat we have here at the moment :-[ :-[
![](https://i.imgur.com/sBobKIf.jpg?1)
Thats 115 degrees in "old money"
Was -37 C Here last Week, I wish I was in that weather lol
Thought I'd keep this thread going with a post of some of this weekend's work on the sim. I'm currently in maintenance and upgrade mode so there is a fair amount of fairly tedious, but none the less important work going on.
I've been working on the sidewalls, adding in the cup holder and document holders. These are 3d printed (professionally) from designs I found by Winston on thingiverse. The mounting plate for the cup holder is some 3mm plexi that I had laser cut to size and shape. First photo is the initial fit before painting.
![](https://i.imgur.com/6ssd1ig.jpg)
Second photo is after painting and installing them:
![](https://i.imgur.com/enKoHPQ.jpg)
You can't see it but I've also tidied the wiring that is behind the sidewall. I've got the FDS map light panels and dimmers, so there are 3 2-core cables leading out from the sidewall to connect elsewhere, as well as the new cable for the test switch on the oxygen mask panels, which are on order with FDS. All the cabling is now attached with cable clips to the back of the sidewall, and terminates in a junction box for easier connection.
I've also done the same on the captain's sidewall, but also have mounted a new Bodnar card that I will be using for the Tiller axis and the push-test switches on the oxy mask panels on to the back of the sidewall as well. Previously the tiller was connected to the Bodnar card that is on my rudder pedals.
The main focus of the maintenance is cable management and redoing the electrical parts. I have mounted a 12V and 5V supply onto the inside of the FDS shell, and connected them to a fusebox ( a new addition to provide fused protection for everything). Feeds from the fusebox will then be routed onto the MIP and Overhead. Picture below:
![](https://i.imgur.com/vSVEBJm.jpg)
This side is for all the LED flood lights, backlights and so on that use PWM dimming. I am separating out all components that use PWM and powering them with separate supplies because I was having various issues, such as audio interference.
An almost identical installation on the opposite side of the shell will provide supplies for the other components.
Will provide another update in a couple of weeks with more progress.
Regards
Simon.
Today will be a big day for the cockpit. I should get the MIP installed, monitors lit and start to adjust all the Project Magenta software to be in it's right place on the screens. I will be streaming this live. The stream is nothing fancy. Just me working on the simulator and chatting with anyone who wants to Skype. If the demand becomes great enough I will start using my TeamSpeak server to allow more folks into the voice. The entire thing is a growing and fluid endeavor. My Twitch channel link in now in my signature. Thanks for the idea Ray!
This week will be spent designing the printed circuit board for my "X-Plane to Garmin MX-20" interface, after final touches this past weekend proved my circuit design works as expected.
So here is what my last month of work looks like....
This week?, hummmm, well we had a cold front coming thru and of course it rained and I had to move the sim again, it seems like its following the sim, now I have two roof leaks, my sim is having a tour of the warehouse! :idiot:
Hey Everyone,
This thread is working out great and I like seeing all the things happening with everyone's sim builds, as well as more new members posting.
I want to add if you're a new member here or have been one for a long time just researching without ever posting once, please go ahead and post something. Tell us who you are and what you're hoping too build (desktop or full size doesn't matter). You will find that many other members are waiting to help you along your journey and believe me we all have been where you are now.
Best Regards,
John
What a difference a day makes....
Looking good Bob!
Hi Warren and all:
I have been a bit backed up with the forum and just noticed what you did to the RevSim TQ.
I have one with the two SIOC Cards as well, and it is working as it is supposed to with ProSim 2.0 and P3D V4.1, I even got it to work with SimAvionics but it was a pain. The script I use was modified by me for a smoother operation and to minimize hunting of the levers. I can send it to you for your review, it may need some tweaking on your part. The calibration is done in a separate script from the one that actually drives things. The script does not work with recent SIOC versions. I am not sure why. I do have a problem with the motor shaft attached to the trim wheel, it is worn out and requires frequent tightening. I just switch it off. Anyway, if you think it may be of any help to you I will be glad to send it to you.
And as far as what I have done for my Sim lately, I have been working on the KBOS Airport (Boston-Logan) scenery, the actual airport. The stock one has all the taxiways wrong, and a commercial one appears "buried" in the ground ( made for FSX), so I took it upon myself to get the scenery up to date. I am almost done. All taxiway signs, ground signs, and gates have been done from scratch.
So far, my weakness is the actual dwelling of the Airport since I do not possess the Architectural skills or software necessary. The iconic Logan Tower is still here though. It has been done with ADE. I will post it in the forum as a .zip file when I am done.
It works with P3D V3 and 4 though I have compiled it with the V3 compiler since there is a problem with the V4 one and ADE that to my knowledge has not been fixed.
Cheers
joaquin
Back at it. New Master Caution panel. Have the FO side as well.
...today was spent removing 27 pea bulbs from a Beech 1900D Center MIP section. New ones to be installed this coming week.
Hi to all:
As previously stated, here is my first version (beta) of the Boston Logan Airport
(KBOS), created with the Scruffyduck ADE. It is my first one so I am ready
to take all the flack :). The README.txt file has all the necessary info.
Feel free to contribute to it ,not with money but with talent, which is abundant here ;)
JF
Joaquin, I will have a look at this this week. I bet you have done a marvelous Job.. I can't wait to see it.
Trev
Well more progress. I now have the 6 packs and Master Caution programmed and working. This thing is starting to look pretty good.
Lookin'good Bob.
Advancing fast!
Jack :D
Tks Trev.
More sets of eyes see better than just two.
I am ironing out the ground markings on the gates.
The problem with ADE is that letter size does not go below 1 meter
which is necessary in order to be able to write the aircraft types at the gate.
So just the stripes for now.
Finished painting! Next is to insert floor.
Got my IRS panels installed and fully integrated into the Sim. Uses a Teensy for switch inputs and outputs controlled with Teensy and uln2803 Another Teensy handles the Arinc429 data.
Starting "retirement" proceedings (For any Bladerunner fans out there....) for the flythissim.com Avidyne Avionics software I currently use. (Or rather being held hostage by...)
Only because my pea bulbs haven't arrived yet...
It'll be replaced soon by the Ellie Systems Avidyne Avionics software.. the brainchild of Don Lafontaine and tweaked just a bit by me over the years....
Quote from: Bob Reed on February 17, 2018, 09:20:58 AM
Well more progress. I now have the 6 packs and Master Caution programmed and working. This thing is starting to look pretty good.
Bob, your sim continues to amaze me. Looking really good!
Hi all:
Here is an update of the KBOS scenery with some minor patches, which may be the last
I post here. All the gates now have their ground signs, and taxiways are properly signed as well. I know that for most people here, including me, the hardware is "the thing" but, hey, no fun without software. Until a good commercial scenery for Prepar3D of this airport appears in the market, this should be good enough since the stock one really sucks.
Joaquin.
Guys,
This is what this Hobby is about. I love this... Joaquin I Promise to look at your scenery this week, Likely tomorrow.
Thank you.
About ready to go feet first with my sim-pit. Narrowed down what round one will consist of and getting ready to pull the trigger: OVH and Aft OVH panel, MCP and EFIS, MIP, single projector, and ifly CBE. Phew. Will post pics once I get started.
As far as my current sim, got an old tablet setup with Virtual Avionics and using it as my FMC with my iFly 737. beats having to point and click.
I have been grounded for a few days as I had one of my main outside view monitors go poof.... So I tore up the sim and installed an old FDS CDU which is full color and I like the tactile feel of the keys. I put the Engravity CDU in the FO's side. Took lots of cutting and hole drilling but I got it all to play well together. Here are a couple photos....
Hey Everyone,
Thank you for keeping this thread going and I am truly amazed too see all the work being done!
You guys are sincerely inspirational to us all; be it a new member or a long time one, the talents you have and share are incredible...keep those pics coming.
Best Regards,
John
Ps remember this is for all simulators...desktop, fullsize or anywhere in between, please share what you've done for your simulator today or any day!
I have my monitor back in place. Finish up the upgrades to the cockpit tomorrow and back in the air!! Whoot!!!!
Quote from: Bob Reed on February 22, 2018, 05:38:27 PM
I have my monitor back in place. Finish up the upgrades to the cockpit tomorrow and back in the air!! Whoot!!!!
It'll be good to have you back in the air. I miss your Twitch feeds!
Hi to all:
Here is the latest KBOS scenery with few additional corrections.
I opened the door today, got this in the mail. My first real aircraft part. No matter how much time you spend in CAD, real life just always looks different. This thing is massive! Look at it compared to my mouse!
For the first time ever, the Ellie Avidyne flies!
Still a few bugs to work on, but all the critical functions work.
Feet First? Cannonball? Whatever phrase you want to use. Purchased my MIP, EFIS, Overhead, Aft Overhead, Gauges, switches, LEDS, buttons (and such), and interface boards. Waiting on a bid for a used MCP too. Hoping to have the room framed up before they get here so I can setup shop and start the 'fun' of wiring.
Quote from: jmlohrenz on March 01, 2018, 06:14:16 PM
Feet First? Cannonball? Whatever phrase you want to use. Purchased my MIP, EFIS, Overhead, Aft Overhead, Gauges, switches, LEDS, buttons (and such), and interface boards. Waiting on a bid for a used MCP too. Hoping to have the room framed up before they get here so I can setup shop and start the 'fun' of wiring.
My suggestion to you is to take one step at a time.... Take all this stuff you bought and pick one area of the aircraft to build. Concentrate on that one area and get it at least close to done/ If you try to do the entire thing all at once you will become frustrated and in a few months we will see all these parts up for sale on this board. Seen it many times.. Just a suggestion....
Built a cockpitbase with to weak wood so i have to tear it down... :-\
Completed the upgrade to XP 11.10.
The road to 11.10 was convoluted to say the least. Flythissim.com software refused to work in 11.10, so... time to gut it and replace it with Ellie Avionics Avidyne PFD.
1. 4 months of code work on the Ellie PFD
2. Connect the Ellie PFD to a MySQL backend (For things like V-Speeds, etc.... This will grow exponentially this year)
3. Reprogram the Avidyne PFD buttons and knobs to work with Ellie
4. Reprogram the Avidyne autopilot to work with Ellie PFD
5. Upgrade to XP11.10
All in all, it was a painful but rewarding process. All of this work was to get to 11.10 so I could benefit from the bug-fix of corrected ground-effect modeling. (Something the developers inexplicably left out of 11.05, causing the aircraft to nosedive right before touchdown, among a few other aerobatic surprises...)
There's still some work in the Avidyne, since I'm now taking advantage of the autothrottle system... I have to add various bits to display the Autothrottle status in the PFD.
Incredibly, the only nuisance in the sim after all this work is that my "Landing Gear" light refuses to extinguish.
I'll take that, and enjoy the fact of no longer paying a $300 annual maintenance fee for FlyThisSim! :) :)
Its Fixed... But Craig will have to repost his post.
This time don't break it LOL
Too funny.
Be careful when you keep adding and adding and adding, your better off making a new reply!
Trev
Ok,
So as I was saying........
I have mostly finished my projector screen. I used 1" square aluminum tubing and had a friend of mine who has a machine shop bend it in a 10 1/2 foot radius ( all the room I have). I used vertical support made from aluminum screen enclosure parts found at Home Depot. Then I covered it with 3 mm expanded PVC sheets.
I still have to paint it with a projection screen paint for best results but that can wait. So far the results are pretty awesome.
Ok, here goes!!
Superb...
Where did you get those PVC expanded sheets, what brand, because here (north) they stare at you blank when you ask for PVC sheets (in my neck of the woods anyway :D )
Jack,
I get it locally at Piedmont Plastics.
https://www.piedmontplastics.com/products/pvc-foam-sheet (https://www.piedmontplastics.com/products/pvc-foam-sheet)
As far as "brand" I really don't know but it may be Sintra or Celtec.
A 4'x8' sheet is $27 US.
Craig
Thanks...
One eighth inch Masonite sheets are bendable and work well for a smooth screen surface.
Fred K
Jack,
Are you near here?
Thank you I will call them tomorrow.
Hope they are not wholesale only...
::)
Mine here isn't.
I just walk in and buy it.
I have purchased about a dozen times from them.
Craig
Your TQ looks great !
Quote from: jackpilot on March 06, 2018, 04:20:48 PM
Your TQ looks great !
Thank You Jack! Its been good to me for many years.
Bob, its look great. Come a long way in a short time since i watched you and Ray building
the shell. Keep them coming.
Quote from: iwik on March 06, 2018, 06:05:26 PM
Bob, its look great. Come a long way in a short time since i watched you and Ray building
the shell. Keep them coming.
Thank you iwik! It has come a long way and it is so much fun to fly. At the moment I am doing more flying then working, but that is not a bad thing. Much more to do. Keep watching...
That is looking really cool Bob!
Great work.
Craig
It's starting to look like an airplane...finally.
Excitement level is going up!
Still a lot of work to do...Rewire the entire overhead and add all gauges, finish throttle rebuild, and all interior finishes.
Craig
Looks like a flyer to me!! Nice job Craig!! ;D
nice shot and cockpit Craig! :D
Short little Youtube video of where I'm currently at with the FDS shell and liners.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acelySDKbqk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acelySDKbqk)
So progress on the maintenance continues. All the power supplies have been re-sited and connected up to fuse boxes and the supplies for anything PWM dimming related has been separated from 'clean' supplies to minimise interference on the audio.
The Flight Control Panel and Anti-Ice panel have returned from Sismo with solenoid held switches for the Yaw Damper and Wing Anti-Ice, and have been reinstalled. At the same time the pedestal flood light from Sismo was installed into the overhead and connected up with the FDS dimmer in their pedestal.
Recent progress has been delayed by a bout of flu, but I am now on the mend.
Delivered today and therefore the weekend project are 2 buttkickers and a BFF simulations shaker card.
Also arrived today was some sheepskin fabric, which, when dyed grey and then with the magical touch of Mrs Zillmer will replace the fabric seat covers on my OEM Weber seats. Also awaiting replacement foam for the cushions.
FDS Oxygen Mask panels are clearing customs and hopefully will be collected on Saturday as well, so all being well, on Sunday the simulator will be upgraded and back in full operation.
Will endeavour to post some photos over the weekend.
Cheers
Simon.
Still a fair way to go,
Today, I opened the door... again:
P.S. Craig, that looks superb!
Quote from: Atomic_Sheep on March 07, 2018, 06:22:03 PM
Today, I opened the door... again:
P.S. Craig, that looks superb!
It starts as such a little thing.... ???
Quote from: Bob Reed on March 07, 2018, 06:23:55 PM
It starts as such a little thing.... ???
The bottom right one is actually pretty beefy! Again, CAD doesn't do it justice.
Very cool Marco!
Neat and clean.
Craig
Well I bit the bullet and upgraded to P3D V4.2 and upgraded FSUIPC to 5.124. I can honestly say it has not been a seamless upgrade so far, but I can not say all the issues are totally due to the upgrade. I will know more after some testing today. If things continue I may be switching back to 4.1. Also know that the compatible version of Activesky is only in open-bata. My recommendation is if you are on the fence about upgrading right now... Hold off.....
:2cw:
Thanks for the advice Bob. I'm one who is still on the fence concerning an upgrade to P3D.
I guess this would be something I did for my simulator, yesterday Karen and I went to pick up a set of Delta Air Filitration Units from a seller on Public Surplus (City of Madison, WI) that look brand new. We're going to put them in the hangar to keep the dust down.
With gravel all around the building, the micro dust from this gets inside little by little each time we open the big door, so filtering the air is the only solution. Up until now we used two inexpensive 20" box fans with 20"x20"x1" furnace filters (all from Walmart) taped to the back. These actually work pretty well this way, but we wanted the Delta units because they have remotes and hangers to place them on the ceiling.
Now we just have to wipe everything down again; oh well better clean then dirty I say. If you're having dust issues (like the fine white dust) I'd suggest getting some type of air cleaners or make the box fan filter units like we did. You will be happy seeing less dust and you'll truly breath easier...no reallly...lol...you will breath easier... :o
John
PS Public Surplus is here: www.publicsurplus.com (http://www.publicsurplus.com)
Quote from: Bob Reed on March 09, 2018, 06:35:29 AM
Well I bit the bullet and upgraded to P3D V4.2 and upgraded FSUIPC to 5.124. I can honestly say it has not been a seamless upgrade so far, but I can not say all the issues are totally due to the upgrade. I will know more after some testing today. If things continue I may be switching back to 4.1. Also know that the compatible version of Activesky is only in open-bata. My recommendation is if you are on the fence about upgrading right now... Hold off.....
:2cw:
What was there a reason for you deciding to upgrade? I'm lately of the opinion, get something that is older but stable and well tested.
Does rebuilding your FS drive on your computer count? Mistake #1 -> Get new PC, and fancy new system HD, but not upgrade your 3TB HD that is 6 yrs old....Ugh. Fortunately it is still somewhat alive, albeit with many errors, but it is allowing me to uninstall my apps so I can properly de-register my licenses for re-installation.
Apparently it knew that my new MCP was showing up today, so when I hooked it up to play it crapped out.
Oh well...looks like Saturday / Sunday will be re-install all my simulator apps day. FUN FUN.
500GB SSD on order. Using a significantly smaller and newer 1.5TB drive for now and will just move everything over to the new drive later this week and assign it a new drive letter.
3d Printing OH YEAH! :idiot:
Think I'm getting the hang of 3d printing with my Creality CR-10S 3d Printer. I wanted to make some Window Handles for my simulator, so that is "what I did for my simulator today"...uh, okay 1/2 of the set...lol!
From Thingiverse I downloaded the .stl files made by username "fabien" and loaded them into Simplify3D (S3D), then did some location editing (offset, rotation and such). For the Process Settings I used the ones from S3D for Creality CR-10, but I edited them based on what some other users were trying, as well as what I thought would work best.
With these Process Settings being tested and used on four of my other prints that turned out really nice (the Cat that comes with the Creality software and Baby Groot from Thingiverse), I decided to continue using them. Thus, when I printed the Window Handles they turned out just as good as the previous prints. It took 3 1/2 hours for the handle and about 2 hours for the under plate, so not to bad time wise.
Here is a link for Thingiverse file location:
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2521835/#files (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2521835/#files)
Note: If you decide to use these files, download them, then after that you must rename the .stl files first because there are some weird characters in the names; otherwise, when you save your factory file in S3D, then try to reopen it, you will get an error message and the factory file will not reopen/losing your work. Also, two of the file names have ABS in them, just ignore that and rename the file(s) (I used handle1, plate1, handle2, plate2) then use whatever filament you like (I used 1.75mm PLA Grey).
Attached are some quick and dirty pics...
John
Well after more testing, I still have no idea what is going on with the sim. It was flying so well... Why did I have to mess with it? Well for one I was looking for better frame rates.. NOPE.... I lost on the average about 8 frames. And I have picked up these huge stutters when I am on approach. I get frames at these airports that should allow ok motion but I am getting stutters. It may be time to throw the entire mess to the street! (Trevor... ;) )
Bob,
Can you system restore it back before this all started?
John
Quote from: blueskydriver on March 12, 2018, 08:15:03 AM
Bob,
Can you system restore it back before this all started?
John
No I think I have system restore turned off and I have physically changed some of the files which system restore can not fix. It is self inflicted and I will get over it.. Or not... A new system is not in the cards for some time so I need to make this one work.
Far from being PC litterate I take great care at documenting each and every change I make, wether it is deleting a file or adding something, all FSUIPC assignement etc...
Proven useful when you have to go backwards
Just 2¢
Quote from: Bob Reed on March 12, 2018, 08:22:34 AM
Quote from: blueskydriver on March 12, 2018, 08:15:03 AM
Bob,
Can you system restore it back before this all started?
John
No I think I have system restore turned off and I have physically changed some of the files which system restore can not fix. It is self inflicted and I will get over it.. Or not... A new system is not in the cards for some time so I need to make this one work.
Don't give up Bob. Seems to me everything started to go south when you made the move to 4.2. Sure seems like something big is eating up the resources for you to have all those stutters. Windows.. anit-virus software? I'm not a computer guru either..just trying to think of what could be eating up the resources. Have a beer..wait it out and have another go at it.
I think Bob and I both attended the same sim-finishing school. "If it works, break it!"
I've been neck-deep in a major MIP overhaul, all because I needed to "re-adjust something". The adjustment ballooned into "Well.. I'm here, may as well do that too"
Hang in there, Bob!
Ha. I used to be that way. The way I solved the problem?
Now I put so much thought and effort into making sure I get everything working before moving on, and being able to easily upgrade parts or make repairs without a complete overhaul, that I can't seem to actually finish!
Much better this way, as I can continually upgrade without actually taking anything apart, and... easier on the wallet as I have just convinced myself its better to spend all my money on the sim now, while I still have a job and can afford Top Ramen, than wait until I'm retired without an income!
Quote from: fsaviator on March 12, 2018, 01:36:42 PM
Ha. I used to be that way. The way I solved the problem?
Now I put so much thought and effort into making sure I get everything working before moving on, and being able to easily upgrade parts or make repairs without a complete overhaul, that I can't seem to actually finish!
Much better this way, as I can continually upgrade without actually taking anything apart, and... easier on the wallet as I have just convinced myself its better to spend all my money on the sim now, while I still have a job and can afford Top Ramen, than wait until I'm retired without an income!
Yes but when everything is working 'just so' it's massively rewarding.
Quote from: fsaviator on March 12, 2018, 01:36:42 PM
I have just convinced myself its better to spend all my money on the sim now, while I still have a job and can afford Top Ramen, than wait until I'm retired without an income!
Warren, I convinced myself of the very same thing..buy as much as I can now before I retire. Hoping to have most things bought and enjoy retirement putting it all together. Nevertheless, my retirement budget includes a token amount for sim parts :)
Well the sim is back up and running... and I have made some headway in other areas that I will share in a bit. So you guys can stop driving by the house on garbage day.. The sim will not be there! lol YET.... :P
That's too funny Bob! Uh, still...what day is garbage day...just in case?
John
Well, I just enjoyed the sim ...no update to new builds (too afraid to change what works fine) so today It was a short trip Montreal- Albany and return overcast with heavy snow....
Leaving FL 210 for 4500' :D
Jim,
That looks great!
I wish I had done something like that...hinged back wall.
With all of the building and rebuilding I do on this thing it's a pain squeezing the seats in and out of that tiny door.
Great setup.
Next time my wife drags me to Mickey's Playground in Orlando I will have an excuse to skip the torture of the parks and crowds and spend the day at your place instead.
Craig
WOW! I love it Jim!, great design for tight spaces!
Brilliant idea Jim, and superbly executed.
Joe.
Clever idea!
Mine is unfortunately bolted in but I made the door wider to allow seats removal
oooooh. Thanks Jim! Perfect timing! That is a great idea that I plan to steal!
98% done. Still need to put the handle on the FO side door along with the door stop/latch at the bottom edge.
Then it is on to mounting the new MIC and CLOCK buttons on the glareshield.
great design !
Is your fire extinguisher Halotron type ?
Ha - the fire extinguisher was one laying around the garage that fit :)
I have no idea what it is.
Halon, (still allowed on commercial airplanes) is now banned
Halotron has taken over.
Not a bad idea to have one in the cockpit as it spays a gas, versus powder (or even worse water) which do not create an horrible mess in electronics.
$50-80 on Ebay, worth the investment.(IMHO)
The garage itself does Halon units in several places. The extinguisher on the back wall is for demonstration purposes only.
This weekend I have been mounting the thottle quadrant for my a2a comanche simpit.
The levers come from and a real aircraft. Some 3d printing to fix pots and support to join the cockpit.
![](https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.subirimagenes.com%2Fimagedata.php%3Furl%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fs2.subirimagenes.com%2Fotros%2F9842203img20180318190325.jpg&hash=907035d6d33153253b9c85644d2e965eee698ea9)
Here is a vid with some testing of the levers and some other things:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl-fdAYiQpU&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl-fdAYiQpU&feature=youtu.be)
Arturo.
Opened the door today and found some more switches :).
Quote from: jmlohrenz on March 20, 2018, 05:47:15 PM
Assembled this bad boy in my basement this weekend!!
Looks great Jason!
I played with a new toy......
![](https://i.imgur.com/RrRIQD8.jpg)
Holy smokes Jason, you got that up fast!
John
Well done Jason, you got the best deal !
You have a nice space to work in... congrats.
Jack
I did a stream for the first time in over a week. Lots of "tweaking" to do after the .42 upgrade. I had one stutter on approach that I need to look into but other then that the flight was great! Scenery looks better then ever and the frame rates where good!
Thanks for posting the updates guys and I ask everyone to keep doing so, as it really encourages us all...
John
Today found a way to display superb colors and contrasts with the Optoma 1080 and P3D4.
Check
http://www.cockpitbuilders.com/community/index.php?topic=7021.msg50401;topicseen#new (http://www.cockpitbuilders.com/community/index.php?topic=7021.msg50401;topicseen#new)
Went to the post office today to collect this. About half the toggle switches have now arrived.
I've just completed the mechanics for my first set of new pedals, based on a design I found on the ProSim forum created by NAX (Geir).
This is one of the simplest designs I've seen, yet is very strong and quite rigid. I still have to make the cover but that should be pretty straightforward.
Geir has put a video of his version on YouTube, if anyone wants to see the link is below.
https://youtu.be/Wc-xTZuM884
Joe
Whaooo impressive
More than impressive !
Hi All,
What an amazing last 8 days. I had the pleasure of hosting a sim build week at my house, Jorg from Brazil and Tom from Texas were here helping me on the 733 Sim. Scott couldn't make it, something about being stuck on a warm sandy beach. :huh: ::)
At one point all of us were on our laptops coding different parts of the sim. So much added and or improved and special thanks to the aforementioned gentlemen for helping me in this endeavor.
I'll touch on the highlights,
Assembled Arinc 429 interface, 4 RX ch and 2 TX ch Teensy controlled and software and design by Jorg
Does low and High speed arinc
Got the real MCP in and fully functioning.
Got the TCAS display fully working
Got Resolution Advisory on VSI working
Got FD bars on ADI working with ixeg
Lnav crosstrack error now displays on CDI inside HSI
and many other smaller but no less important improvements in code and wiring.
Fun times!
Cockpit Building PhD Class there Rob! You guys are doing unbelievable work, way beyond even my OCD'isms... Thank you for sharing all of this fun!
John
...not a damned thing, other than try to figure out why, when flying on PilotEdge, my frame rates drop to 5 when inbound to KSBA after being handed off to LA Center.
I spent about seven hours stripping the remaining wiring from a full set of OEM 737 circuit breaker panels which reduced their weight by about half. They are dated 1990 and came with 28 years worth of dust and grime. Next will be the restoration of the panels, new paint and labels. They are in reasonable condition already but I think an overhaul is due...
Finally started stripping the sim for rebuild.
New panels and rewiring was long overdue.
Michael
Looking at what everyone is doing on a daily basis in this thread is so encouraging, it has made me more focused on what I want to do. Instead of 3 cockpits, going back to 1 and I'll be happy.
Plus, things have changed so much over the years that the hardware, software and interfacing is a lot easier. All of you posting are showing this...
John
Quote from: bindook on March 26, 2018, 02:58:42 AM
Finally started stripping the sim for rebuild.
New panels and rewiring was long overdue.
Michael
Hey Michael come up an have a fly of VOZ738 again!!
Will do Gwyn....mines gonna be out of action for a while.... i also need to see you about getting a panel engraved.
Working on a cool blue Christmas tree. (Or a Center MIP)
Hopefully soon I can get this installed... A Ton of work involved with moving everything on the MIP left one inch....
Another linear potentiometer input device, this one is destined to be the parking brake on my C208B panel.
Partly inspired by the Inertial separator control I made recently, partly inspired by Peter's questions regarding linear pots.
I set out to make something that's generic that could be used for many different controls.
( the ends have just been put in for the photo, and were left over from my TQ ) in practice , this will be panel mounted , hence the thick end plate,
and have a t-handle fitted . total cost of parts was around $20 (excluding the ends )
Tonight marks the end of using FlyThisSim.com avionics software. It's a little bittersweet. The software has served the Beech 1900 well, but after integrating the Avidyne software from Ellie Avionics, it highlights several areas where FTS.com software falls short of expectations.
SO... no more of that, and no more paying hundreds a year just to have the software. On deck is a Beechcraft center MIP section that will comfortably house all my Collins radios and a nice Garmin MX-20 Moving Map system using a custom built circuit from yours truly. I'll also be able to re-purpose the genuine center Avidyne MFD for the first officer side, with working controls. (Finally!)
Here's how the end of that era was marked:
I spent the day re doing my visuals. Pretty happy with the results. I hate doing visuals! lol
I flew Calgary to Vancouver ..over the Rockies
I used complete VNAV LNAV from runway to runway.
Nice to know it works perfectly but it is..
incredibly BORING !!
Will not repeat.
:D
Washed my pilot, co-pilot, and jump seat covers. Re-did the foam padding on the co-pilot and jump seat....word to the wise, wash covers on delicate and then let them AIR DRY. I dried mine on extra low heat delicate and they still shrunk. Think I almost pulled a muscle trying to get all the snaps back on!!!
Pic 1: Seat without covers..yuk. Worn out and needs TLC
Pic 2: Using good seat cushion as a template.
Pic 3: New cushion trial.
Pic 4: An hour, a drink, and a lot of sweat later.
Busy few days at the Sim for us!
Amongst other things, I Installed new On/Off Switches for the Avionics Computers to replace the case ones, mounted in a project box, at the rear of the Sim. So that we don't have to snurgle around the front of the sim to turn them on and off. It would have taken about 90 mins less if i hadn't have had the Motherboard diagram the wrong way round and plugged the new Switch cabling into the Reset Switch headers on the Mobo, rather than the Power Switch. I may have been pulling my hair out for a while trying to figure out what I had broken this time :huh: :huh:
I also got a chance to test fit the new 5inch Raspberry Pi screens for the MIP Clocks - little bit more adjusting needed, but they should be good to go tomorrow! Making use of some USB3 to HDMI adaptors for the visual outputs. Made more sense than putting a whole new rig in for just clocks!
Visuals are getting more tweaks on Saturday, and need to do some more work on the Rudder Pedals Link bar whilst thats happening!
Quote from: blueskydriver on March 26, 2018, 03:24:17 AM
Looking at what everyone is doing on a daily basis in this thread is so encouraging, it has made me more focused on what I want to do. Instead of 3 cockpits, going back to 1 and I'll be happy.
Plus, things have changed so much over the years that the hardware, software and interfacing is a lot easier. All of you posting are showing this...
John
Yes, concentrate your efforts.
What else I learned form this thread is just how good OEM parts are. Alas, I don't think I'll ever be able to get OEM panels for my plane so will have to make do with custom made pretty much everything.
Work continues on the Beech. The color difference between my MIP and the B1900 center MIP is going to bug me and activate my OCD.
Debating if I should try to color match the 1900 piece and spray the entire MIP that color....
Thoughts?
Much easier to paint the central part I think !
Same as main MIP or really contrasting color .
IMHO
It's difficult to see in the image but that center MIP is backlit with a ton of lettering. Not sure that's the way I want to go. :-)
Yep, I see it now....not much choice :o
I find the two-tone rather charming, personally. Since it is all real parts, I think it looks more "aged", as you'd expect to see in many aircraft that have been flown for hours and hours.
Then again, I'm a little biased since most of my parts have scuff marks from use and (some) tearing and storage abuse ;) I thought about painting center pedestal, MIP, DU frames...decided to just leave them as-is.
My feelings only...great looking sim, Ray!
Marco
If it were me I wouldn't be able to sleep knowing the colors were different. May as well take it to the street if your not going to paint the other two...
Just my opinion LOL
Hey Ray... What day is your garbage day?? I think I will be doing a drive by.....
Duncan, can you share the details of how you did the clocks and what you used? You can PM me about it if you don't want to post here. Very interested.
Thanks.
Added a "back"kicker in my seat...convincing effects
Quote from: Bob Reed on April 03, 2018, 03:07:00 PM
Hey Ray... What day is your garbage day?? I think I will be doing a drive by.....
You just missed it. I carted the entire sim to the curb, too!
Seriously though.. I am warming up to the idea of having different tones. I am going to re-spray the entire MIP though to a color just slightly darker than what it is now. It won't be a perfect match, but the color difference won't be as severe..
Added Stronger rubber band.. eer Stretchy things to the inside of my yoke.
No more indents and smoother than default.
After months of hard work, the MIP is finally upgraded!
1. NOS Beech 1900 Center MIP section with backlighting
2. Garmin MX-20 Moving Map Display, with home-brew interface to X-Plane
3. Added Fire extinguisher handles and left/right Caution Silencers
4. Color change on the rest of the MIP. I couldn't get an exact match for the B1900 center MIP but I think it's close.
5. Removed a few miles of wiring.
6. Moved the old OEM Avidyne MFD unit to now function as the F/O PFD
Looking really beautiful Ray! Nice work :)
OMG! Look at all the amazing things you guys do! Ray is totally making it happen, glad to see he got his " non-color blindness" worked out...lol! Just like Bob hates doing visuals, it sometimes has too be done; otherwise, it drives you crazy.
Then, there is Jason and Jason...lol! You both would make Karen proud. By redoing the seat cushions, like her making some, it shows true desire for a comfortable seat. Plus, with using those hair bands for centering shows how simple things can be used to fix some complex issues with sim building....
Speaking of simple, Jack says his flight was boring and it may have been a simple one, but he is flying his sim none the less and that is the most important thing about sim building...keep flying no matter what! Although, Jack with that new back massager, you won't be bored anymore that's for sure...lol!
Duncan regarding your MIP clocks and the screens, where did you buy them? Also, what program are you using to generate the image? Nice to see this being done...
And, for all the other builders, thank you for posting in this thread. I cannot tell you how many days I just want to quit simulators, but I look at this thread 4-5 times a day to keep reminding me that there are reasons not to give up. 99% of them comes from you, my fellow builders/members, so thank you and please keep posting updates here...
John :idiot:
Quote from: blueskydriver on April 13, 2018, 12:50:51 PM
I cannot tell you how many days I just want to quit simulators...
I've been in that mindset many, many times. Early on in this hobby that minsdset usually resulted in me making rash decisions and selling off gear. Later I would discover this to be a huge mistake.
Nowadays when this hobby exhausts me I simply shut it down, lock the door and walk away for a few days/weeks. Inevitably the bug strikes and I'm back in, with renewed vigor, new ideas and new enthusiasm. This hobby can be immensely satisfying but also incredibly, mind-bogglingly frustrating.
Over the years I've learned to ride the waves with grace.
Quote from: blueskydriver on April 13, 2018, 12:50:51 PM
Duncan regarding your MIP clocks and the screens, where did you buy them? Also, what program are you using to generate the image? Nice to see this being done...
John,
Fairly straightforward to be honest:
2 Raspberry Pi 5" screens from Amazon, and two USB to HDMI adaptors, again from Amazon. Using the Sim-A Clock display module (i believe ProSim has a similar function) Mounted them using 3M Command Strips.
The Plan is to add microswitches to the clock bezels in the future, but for now, they look pretty good!
Dunc
Hey Guys,
Jonathan here, and hello from sunny Arizona!
Had a free morning today so I thought I would finally post up my BeechMax 1900D. I've been a long-time reader of this site, unfortunately I have always been in the build and experiment stage so never got around to posting anything up.
I started out with building my King Air B200 simpit. I don't have the room for a full size enclosed sim (although rest assured that's coming next year) so I have always had to make do with a "single seat trainer" style sim. I worked in real life in the Regionals and always liked the B1900D, Dash-8's, Saab 340's etc so I wanted to go down that path when building my sim.
It's also nice to do something different rather than the same old 737 and A320, and to be honest while I love seeing the amazing detail and realism that come with these two platforms, I don't think I could actually sit there for hours on end in a 737 or A320 so a regional commuter aircraft doing short hops seemed like the appropriate choice. Having said that, I also wanted something more involved than just a Cessna 172 or light GA aircraft.
Building a Dash-8 floated around in my brain for a while, but eventually that was out of the question. Majestic make nice software, but virtually nobody makes any panels or even has attempted one so that was just too much of an unknown to try go down that path. So my next logical choice was the B1900D.
With that said, I went ahead and built a King Air.....lol
Yes, my first attempt was my B200. There were a lot of reasons at the time why I went with a KA instead of the 1900. I wanted a G1000. I wanted pre-made panels. I wanted something that other people had already done so I didn't have to re-invent the wheel, so this was a logical choice at the time. Flight1 make the King Air with a G1000. From everything that I read it was also the most realistic version, far better than Carenado so the B1900D was out and the KA was in!
Long story short, I got it to about 60% functionality until I decided I really wanted that B1900D. Ray's 1900 also inspired me, and I always look forward to his posts, so I can sit there and be envious....
The major factors to change it was so that I could simulate Airline Operations and not charter work and I wanted to switch to Xplane. It felt a bit silly pulling up to the gates at airports in a KA.... I won't get into it about which platform is better, everyone has their opinion and needs and mine is that Xplane is far superior, so I decided that I would go ahead and convert my KA to the B1900D. Luckily these aircraft are almost one and the same so major modifications were not necessary, just a remake of the MIP. I also decided to go ahead and build a center console which I didn't have on the KA at the time.
Downside to all this is that I have to use Carenado, who are well known for their lack of system depth regarding the avionics, but they are the only ones who make one, so beggars can't be choosers as they say. It also meant going back to steam gauges, but I don't mind, I'm sure one day you will start to see the 1900's retrofitted with more modern avionics. On the upside, Air Manager has all the gauges for the 1900 so this has made the transition a lot easier.
I chose to just use all my Saitek gear rather than invest in more expensive solutions, I think I will wait until I can build my full-size set-up then I will start to look at outfitting it with some custom-made gear. I'm getting a few quotes now on getting the lower switch panels made and will also start getting quotes on the rest of the panels eventually. Until then I just built most of them myself, MDF, paint and dry decal lettering is pretty much all I've used. I have used a couple of 3D printed parts that are available on Thingyverse and the like.
My big thing was my twin GTN750's. I wanted a better solution than the old Collins radios and a 430. There is not a lot of 1900's around with them, but I found a picture on Controller.com of one with twin GTN's so I decided to emulate that using Reality XP's version. I built the bezels myself, and the dual rotary encoder, and Direct and Home buttons both work as well, and they are mounted in front of an 18" touchscreen, so they function perfectly. It's really a pleasure to see them in action.
The rest so far is all a work in progress but nearing completion (yeah, right...). Waiting on a couple of screens to arrive for the rest of the MIP and fuel panel, and in the meantime reading up a lot about how I could go about integrating functioning upper and lower annunciator panels and trying to wrap my brain around teensy, Arduino etc etc. Software for this it seems is non-existent, so Im open to all suggestions or ideas... Also, would love some advice on where to get some fire-pull handles...
Well guys that's it for now, I will try to post up more pics with any latest progress.
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Wow, that's a pretty nice looking project. Nicely done. Although I would have stayed with the King Air LOL.. Just kidding. Looking forward to seeing more as your project progresses.
Trev
Cool! Another B1900D project!
I sat in it and flew it... Not much else to say :huh: ;D
Rob, when is the -"Updated my plastic MCP to OEM" coming in this thread? =) ;D
Today Since it was such a pretty day I spent some time and built "Phase one" A Test Bench for Created Panel gauges.
What a great Start.. Nicely done Jason... Awesome Job.
Trev
I'm in a bit of a holding pattern until my custom PCB arrives....
One of these days, you're going to have to tell me the story with the Giraffe. Apparently one go hurt when you crashed the other day, and now I see a Giraffe, on your new custom PCB.
Needs to be a story behind it. :)
That's a story best shared in person. :-)
Remind me next time we get together. It involves giraffes and Bed, Bath and Beyond.
Oh no... Take a look at this!
http://www.rochesterfirst.com/news/local-news/giraffe-captured-after-escape-from-fort-wayne-zoo-exhibit/1135970505?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_News_8_WROC_Rochester (http://www.rochesterfirst.com/news/local-news/giraffe-captured-after-escape-from-fort-wayne-zoo-exhibit/1135970505?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_News_8_WROC_Rochester)
For that article, a Bell 407 woulda been a great sim! Any builders? ;)
Marco
It was a rainy day here today, so it provided an opportunity for me to finish my CB panels.
I had been thinking about finishing the back walls of my cockpit for some time now. John's "spring sale" here spurred me on. I acquired the FDS circuit breaker panel kit that he offered for sale.
There was quite a bit of work involved with building out the kit. I needed to fabricate Lexan panels (they are not part of the kit), apply the decals, and assemble and mount the CBs. Much of this work was mindless activity, but sometimes I find that relaxing and very therapeutic.
I had to reorganize the positioning of some of the panels to fit my wall space since I have a larger than standard opening into the cockpit. So there was some actual thinking with all that.
I am happy with how it all turned out. It has added a "cozier feel" dimension to my cockpit.
Oh....and many thanks to Jack for his helpful advice on a number of aspects.
Fred K
Following Michael's video tutorials, I decided to fill in my cockpit walls and windows. So yesterday I built this at my friends CNC workshop, it beats cutting MDF out by hand. Now on to the windows. 8)
Joe.
OMG! You guys have been busy...
-Fred, you gave the CB kit life and here I let it sit for a couple of years and then you get it done in a few weeks! Ther build up of the back walls for the CB panels really shows your dedication to the details...it all looks very natural. Plus, like you said "It has added a "cozier feel" dimension to my cockpit.", and that is the biggest thing about back walls, they close out the outside world that much more...everyone should have a back wall.
Awesome job!
-Joe, just like Fred, you make leaps and bounds to surprise all of us. Going for the CNC MDF cutout job shows how much easier it is these days to get this accomplished. Let's face it, the OCD...uh, devotion that Michael has is amazing and knowingly, we all wish to have his talents, but hand crafted wood work is a world of it's own that takes years to learn. Thus, for us non-craftsmen, getting the CNC work makes perfect sense and as I mentioned, it's much easier and more common place nowadays. Way to go!
-Jason, thanks for posting and you show us what can be simplistic done to get started. It is a proven point that no matter how you start, you just need to start somewhere and you've done that very well! Keep posting updates because I am sure there are a lot of guys who just read posts or "research" for weeks, months or years before taking the plunge, that are watching your project, saying "I can do this!".
And, not that there is anything wrong with waiting for a while to get started, but I encourage everyone who has never posted or mentioned your project before, please do it now. I assure you, no one will ever say anything negative about your build or intentions; instead, there are so many members that are just waiting to help you.
Why? Because the Cockpit Builders' website is about helping others and remaining professional like the real pilots we are or aspire too be...real or simulated... :idiot:
John
Well-said, John!
As for me, my custom circuit cards arrived yesterday and I wasted no time in getting one put together. (I did make one mistake in the design, but nothing a simple jumper couldn't fix.)
Now the coding begins....
As for me, I opened up my motion platform electric motors for a "what the heck inspection" SURPRISE!!!!
Not a happy day!
John: here is the YouTube link,
https://youtu.be/Wu4mLPscQy0
-Ray, thanks for posting about your card and I am curious, will it be plane specific or can it be used for other aircraft types? Also, what programming are you using?
-Sam, went to watch your movie, but iPad not pulling it down...can you YouTube it? Otherwise, some pics would work, I really want too see your electric motors...
-Jonathan, hey what an amazing project you got there! Thank you for posting about it and if would like, do a new member post and tell us more about yourself, link here:
http://www.cockpitbuilders.com/community/index.php?board=10.0 (http://www.cockpitbuilders.com/community/index.php?board=10.0)
I know Ray is really going to like you and who knows, his hardware cards might be of interest to you...?
John
QuoteAs for me, I opened up my motion platform electric motors for a "what the heck inspection" SURPRISE!!!!
Not a happy day!
That is not good!
Fred K
-Sam OMG! That totally sucks with all that water! Are they salvageable at all?
Thanks for posting the YouTube video.
John
John, the card is pretty much X-Plane Specific. The programming is done using Arduino/Teensy libraries. As the code evolves I'm trying to keep it non-aircraft specific, but it's tempting to look up the datarefs for the Carenado 1900D and see what I can do there.
It is possible to convert the card code to P3D, but then you'd have just another joystick interface card.
Ray, I'm new at that level of coding - where would one find the datarefs published for an airplane such as the 1900?
Quote from: navymustang on April 26, 2018, 11:57:22 AM
Ray, I'm new at that level of coding - where would one find the datarefs published for an airplane such as the 1900?
Look at datareftool Not Editor. and read the readme.md
You can set it up and then click a button in the virtual cockpit and if the tool is set up correctly you can see the ref that is changing as you click the button you are looking for say like Landing light button
Link here https://github.com/leecbaker/datareftool
Also if you have access to a spreadsheet program like excell or google docs make a list of what you want to get datarefs for so you can make a list and copy and paste the ref in your spreadsheet. Its a way to keep things organized
Great info - thanks
I had the joyful experience of uncovering a bug in X-Plane this weekend. While programming the MIP switches I noticed something I had experienced on a flight from a few weeks ago. A set of landing lights were still on, even though the gear was tucked and all my landing lights were switched off.
X-Plane 11.X introduced a bug that prevents the wingtip landing lights from turning off, but only when the view is internal. In any external view they work fine.
Thinking perhaps that maybe I just needed to address --> ALL 16 <-- landing lights in X-Plane, I set the controls for the heart of the sun and proceeded to program all 16 landing lights.
No dice.
...and that's how I spent my Summer vacation.
Quote from: navymustang on April 26, 2018, 11:57:22 AM
Ray, I'm new at that level of coding - where would one find the datarefs published for an airplane such as the 1900?
For the Carenado 1900 in particular, there's a folder called "DRFS" within the aircraft folder. There's some files in there that contain all the custom datarefs and commands.
Thanks - I'm learning :)
i brought the besst a new dedicated home she does not play well with other aircraft lol
Hi Bernard,
Any pics?
John
That not only really good idea, I think its super smart. If you think about it. The controls and electronics in a real aircraft are ment to be removable and replaced. No reason to be able to get everything working the way it should and move each piece into a new home. Looking good
Little by little... did make a successful flight from KTNT to KTPA today. What stood out? I've forgotten how to fly the 737 :(
I've given up being methodical... It's taking way too long. I'm just throwing shit together now so I can start throwing the roof and sidewalls in.
Warren you have a very nice set up. Thanks for posting. Good advice for those who just want to fly. I realize some have enjoyment building.
Thanks! Don't get me wrong, I enjoy building too... unfortunately this is just a reassembly... and it is taking waaayyy too long.
I'm wondering if I'm going to have to build a platform for my sim. I bought a overhead structure from opencockpits that bolts into the floor. Obviously I'm not going to try and bolt it into my carpet...
Yep platform, you'll be happy that you did... Also, kudos for finding that elusive throttle assy. Now, it's my turn...hopefully ;D
Hey Warren,
Glad to see you flying again, now if I just can follow your flight plan per se, lol...I will get mine up. With all the encouragement from this thread it has gotten me going, as I covered up my camera gear and LEGO city tables, so Karen and I can focus on putting the FDS shell together.
Although, we have the raised garden beds to build, gutter/water runoff pipes to install, 85 tons of black dirt to spread on our lawn, more trees to cut away from the shed, build a 10'x20' shed for our skid-steer and dismantle two old 8'x10' sheds. So, yep I did everything except work on my simulator!
Okay, wait...I did clear out the area for it too be located; therefore, I get a little...uh, very little credit I suppose...rotflol :idiot:
In the mean time, I hope everyone will keep this thread going, as it is the best one ever for me. All of you and Cockpit Builders in general are keeping me in this and much like it was when I started, it is your pics and stories behind them that gives me determination...
Kind Regards,
John
PS Last night I saw Maurice log in, but no post from him. I hope he comes back one day because he was such an inspiration to everyone. Maurice, if you read this, sell the boat and come back to the virtual skies...lol! FDS sells amazing turn-key setups now. :idiot:
Edit for typos :o
Yesterday, installed new wipers more simil;ar to the OEM units
Before:
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Now:
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Real OEM:
Very nice Jack... but I imagine you hope never to need them.... 8) 8)
After almost a year finally testing the home build dual yoke! Still needs some fine tuning but the overall impression is very nice.
Hey Sergej,
Looks nice and even though it's been year, just think how much you've learned about your simulator in all that time... :D
Hey Jack,
OEM wipers are a rare thing anymore, but the ones you got look pretty close...where did you get them?
John
John
Home made, until I find real ones. :D
The wiper blades taken off my car. :idiot:
So.... you cant use your car anymore in foul weather ! :D
As a matter of interest Jack do you (and anyone else who cares to chip in) have windows in your shell?
I'm about to start enclosing mine and wasn't sure what to do, with or without. I imagine with might necessitate an AC unit in the summer.
Joe.
Quote from: Joe Lavery on May 15, 2018, 07:52:10 AM
As a matter of interest Jack do you (and anyone else who cares to chip in) have windows in your shell?
I'm about to start enclosing mine and wasn't sure what to do, with or without. I imagine with might necessitate an AC unit in the summer.
Joe.
Yessss. I have AC unit anyway, but also have installed blowers in the cockpit that are operated from overhead switches. Assigned blowers to Packs Auto switches and 12v dimmers. :)
:2cw:
Yep Have windows (and backwall)
Much better sound rendering
Keep dust, flies, ladybugs...etc out :P
Apply on the outside of the shell
(easier to remove if needed )
AC no, dehumidifier yes, ventilation yes.
:D
I have front windows on outside (just lift from holders and remove), and side windows on inside.
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Thanks all for the swift and helpful answers.
looks like I'll have windows then.... ;) :D
While I'm waiting for another circuit card to arrive, I put together a little test circuit that will drive the landing Gear lever latch relay.
http://www.scottshangar.net/b190/hab4047f1#hab4047f1 (http://www.scottshangar.net/b190/hab4047f1#hab4047f1)
Quote from: RayS on May 16, 2018, 09:45:45 AM
While I'm waiting for another circuit card to arrive, I put together a little test circuit that will drive the landing Gear lever latch relay.
http://www.scottshangar.net/b190/hab4047f1#hab4047f1 (http://www.scottshangar.net/b190/hab4047f1#hab4047f1)
Hi Ray, is that video available for download somewhere? My landing gear lever mechanism has something similar and I've never seen the working of it until now. Would be good to have as reference.
Another couple of items finished for the flight deck,
I made a set of clipboards for them and even added a couple of dummy trip counters... well they fill the holes and didn't cost me anything to make.
They're not as pretty as the ACE ones, but I've calculated they cost me about ten percent of the price of those so I'm happy to accept the rough edges. ;)
On to the next section.... :)
Joe.
Played a bit with some offsets, bits and bytes on the SimAvionics Software
:D
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Il y a aussi l'alim électrique et les checklists à venir
I've been busy over the weekend.
Made some new panels, mocked up one of the back wall breaker panels and installed the first set of pedals.
Not sure what went wrong with the colour of the Oxy panel it doesn't kook like that in the flesh. :huh:
Onward and upward... getting there slowly.
In case you're wondering the back wall panel is a copy of images sent to me by "navymustang" See below!
I decide to use black screw caps instead of the sticky labels, I think they look better, just my opinion of course!
Joe.
Good work !
Colors are hard to manage with digit cameras sometimes.
Thanks Jack,
It's the first time I've used Emulsion paint and both panels were painted from the same tin. So you're correct digital pics are difficult to get the right colours.
Quote from: Joe Lavery on May 29, 2018, 04:04:54 AM
In case you're wondering the back wall panel is a copy of images sent to me by "navymustang" See below!
I am wondering. :idiot:
Can I get a copy of those images too?
What I did to my simulator last days? Nothing but flying. :)
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Next Friday getting on real 737 (WestJet) transatlantic flight to London, and then to Dubai and Brisbane on A380.
:angel:
Nick
Nick,
Private message me your email and I'll send you a dropbox link for the images. I don't imagine Jim would have a problem with that.
Joe.
Testing the overhead frame stand this past weekend. It isn't exactly pretty, but it works. :)
Spent the weekend with a good friend installing and calibrating new 1080P projectors. Was going to install all 3 but opted for 2, since lack of ceiling clearance would make 3 nearly impossible.
Ray. That looks familiar. Been there done that lol
Trevor, I may be joining you above FL250 if this project pans out...
https://youtu.be/ucAgVVtg4pc (https://youtu.be/ucAgVVtg4pc)
QuoteTrevor, I may be joining you above FL250 if this project pans out...
https://youtu.be/ucAgVVtg4pc
That is indeed a superb work of art!
Errrr...Except for the pilots and passengers that look like they are from another world.
Fred K
Extremely tired of my project right now... thought about selling everything but will of ofcourse not so this. Hoping my passion will return...
Maybe revise your priorities if you see no end to your build.
The OEM route is probably the most demanding, if ever realistic for a first sim.
Better spend your money on a good avionics package, hook up your MIP to screens and computers and FLY it with good old FSX.
Get this one for dirt cheap and revive your passion !!
http://www.cockpitbuilders.com/community/index.php?topic=1147.0 (http://www.cockpitbuilders.com/community/index.php?topic=1147.0)
https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/content.php?230-AeroSystems-737-Avionics-Update (https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/content.php?230-AeroSystems-737-Avionics-Update)
Understand your point but thats not me.
I am all or nothing! :)
Its only the full OEM unfortunatly that intrests me to this hobby.
Hi Peter,
Where have I heard that before..."it's all or nothing!"? Uh, out of my very own lips...lol! Yep, that is called OCD and the best thing too say to you is this. Don't stop at all; instead, look for even the smallest thing you can do with your project or fix something you want to change.
My point is you will start selling things off and regret about it later. Even though I have been selling things off with no regrets, I ask myself how I got 3 sims without flying for two years now? My answer, it's because buying everything gave me a connection to flying, whereas I should've just setup a desktop sim and kept flying. Now, as of today, I am still not flying and trying to get my original sim back up, but I let everything else in life get in the way, where in the past the sim building/flying kept me from doing everything else.
So, in agreeing with Jack, look at a priority issue to do with your current sim and try to fix that, then repeat that over and over. Plus, I would add, go visit other builders or go to a simulator show. Either way, just keep your sim going and don't stop flying...
John
Once the structure is completed in v1.0 and all the OEM sits in the right place. I will start with panel by panel. Yokes and throttle first just so i can fly.
I have to visit scott or robs sim, that will boost my building for a couple of years! Hehe
Ray,
How many degrees of view are you getting with your 2 projectors? I just picked up 2 darbee's and was hoping I could squeak out close to 180 with them. I know my main PC can handle 2, but whenever I jump to 3 projectors will probably need to switch to a secondary pc to help with the visuals.
I'm only getting about 110 degrees with 2 new projectors. Ironically a little less with the new ones than with the old ones but that's ok. Once I'm able to move the sim to a bigger headquarters I'll have the clearance for all 3 projectors and I anticipate roughly 200 degrees FOV. My OCD is getting the best of me though because I can still see slight differences between projectors so I may bite the bullet and learn how to do edge-blending.
You may be able to get 180 degrees with 2 projectors but you'll really have to move them back, which could cause shadows from your sim structure.
Quote from: RayS on May 31, 2018, 12:33:56 PM
Trevor, I may be joining you above FL250 if this project pans out...
https://youtu.be/ucAgVVtg4pc (https://youtu.be/ucAgVVtg4pc)
OMG Ray. Is that ever awesome. Very nice indeed. They are putting a lot of effort into that. Well done.
Quote from: kurt-olsson on June 01, 2018, 01:32:22 AM
Extremely tired of my project right now... thought about selling everything but will of ofcourse not so this. Hoping my passion will return...
I've been there, Kurt... trust me. Try assembling and disassembling your sim three times and moving it from Colorado to Germany, then back to Washington State, then on to Florida in the space of eight years. Of course each time is a new adventure as you upgrade and fine-tune.
This last rebuild is taking every ounce of motivation I (and my family) have.
My advice... find a sim to fly, even if for just thirty minutes to get you back into the mindset. I've flown other community members sims on my travels; I've tapped into contacts that run real sims; I've even jumped into the sim at Frankfurt airport in between flights!
If you haven't already, maybe book a couple of sessions here: http://www.flygsimulator.nu/ (http://www.flygsimulator.nu/).
Then get your sim to a flyable state. You don't need all the panels. Add them as you can.
Hope that helps
That is actually a really good idea warren. Of i get a smell of what my results will be like i might get a kick and start building/interfacing.
The last structure work before interfacing is coming up this weekend. Then all my OEM except the fmc is in the right place. I wont bother with liners if i dont find cheap real ones on ebay that i can mount.
Hm... good my interest back by this conversation. Will try to interface just roll and elevation of my yokes so i atleast can fly. :)
BOOM!!!!
I AM BACK! Today i made the roof structure! check my build thread for pics!!!
Nice work, Peter! Glad to see you've renewed your enthusiasm!
On my side, almost finished with the makeshift shell I've been building to help me with the wiring and interfacing (and hopefuly some interim flying as well someday!!).
Behold! IKEA flat pack meets ERJ bits and pieces. Talk about strange brew! Now, need to add the glareshield structure. Then, it's taking the whole thing apart and moving it to the basement...wha-wah... ::)
But I must say - being OCD like most of us here - that it took everything in me to not over-engineer the thing and get over the box-factor.
Whomever be afraid of ever building a sim, take heed: it is a lot harder NOT to build!!! :D
My passion has returned and i have redone my cockpit structure. Talked to a carpenter today and he laught when i asked if it could hold 30-45kg of weight of the overhead panels.
Thats a good sign, he thought 150kg easily.
When i have removed the metal casing and not needed cards i hope to get the two overhead panels down to 25kg.
AMAZING WORK GUYS!
Everyone just totally amazes me with their progress, I totally love this thread, as it keeps me motivated! Speaking of which, I took my FWD Overhead out at 2AM this morning. Talk about a plate of overcooked noodles...wires everywhere...OMG! What was I thinking back then?
Funny how everything can go in nice and pretty, but coming out it's a "Nightmare On Elm Street" with Freddy sitting next to me clinging his razor sharp blades, just saying "CUT THEM, CUT THEM ALL" with his evil laugh... I did not listen to him, no cutting whatsoever, just a big pile of wires though and he keeps laughing!
Keep posting guys, this is a great thread!
John
Haha John, i know this feeling! I have redone my MCP 6-8 times and when i look at it today i think: "What the hell is this S*IT" But that means i am still learning and getting better and better at this craft! :)
I love those sim moments when I look at past work and wonder just what the heck I was thinking...
A few days ago I rebuilt the radio bay center console. The last version had accommodations for multiple-width radios and panels. Seemed like a good idea on the chalkboard but it became more of a pain to deal with. Now it's a single row, 5.75 inches wide and looks great.
I even painted the inside lime green, so the MDF doesn't oxidize. :laugh:
You mean the usual OEM "Baby Poop" green ! :D
moved
Ah Ah...moving at night!!! ::)
Just Jokin'
From where to where ?
lakeway to lakeway into its own design and build ..building eas fun ... police escorts x6 stopping traffic and closing out intersections etc .. want big boy toys requires big boy effort
You bet !
Have to pay you a visit :laugh:
Hi Bernard,
DAAAMMMNN, when you go big, you go big! So, is that hanger yours, did you have it built, or are you renting space again?
Do you want to send that truck for the B727 shell now? It's stripped out on the inside, but you could cut the back section off and make it a B737 shell. Plus, price is only whatever the going salvage rate price per pound is...$1,000 to $1,500 range, if that.
Or, send the moving trucks for Karen and myself, as your hanger is big enough to live in...lol! Just curious, what size is it?
Lastly, are there any VA hospitals or VA CBOC's nearby? In case your or my moving trucks do show up someday, Karen needs a job to PCS/transfer into. You're still in Texas right?
I've always told her that someday we would move there. I spent some time there as a kid and loved it. Plus, with age and disabilities, the Wisconsin winter weather is getting harder every second/minute/hour/day/week/month/year...you get my point right...lol!
Kind Regards,
John
Hey Jack,
Post those new "I can see clearly now, the rain is gone!" pics...lol! Show how you mounted them in your FDS shell :idiot:
John
OK here they are:
OEMs from John
Nice eye candy but adds to immersion
![](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/tSb4P6.jpg)
Went to fit the MIP and the glareshield to the temporary shell/ base. Found out that the center post structure I had built was too flimsy and had given an inch or so when I first assembled the overhead shell. The result? Had to take apart almost the whole darn thing, shore-up the center columns and center windshield post so that the lower end of the overhead, the glare shield and - by association - the MIP all sit at the correct height - and the center pedestal can be mounted in!
Four hours of work, but it paid off...
I just wonder what's gonna happen when I take it apart and move it to the basement, then try to assemble it all over again...yes, I may be a glutton for punishment...
Marco
Jeeez Marco! Great job, and fast! Nice to have the base setup!
Thanks Peter! Yeah, it feels good to get something going, to see it take shape.
Quote from: bernard S on June 20, 2018, 05:43:17 AM
lakeway to lakeway into its own design and build ..building eas fun ... police escorts x6 stopping traffic and closing out intersections etc .. want big boy toys requires big boy effort
Would it work the same if you're transporting just a shell, without anything else to go with it?
i do not know i guess it depends on your city restrictions ..
Not much work on the sim, but a lot of work on its new home. Great friend came over during the weekend to help me hang insulation.
Also picked up a decent server rack, 1U monitor drawer with monitor, and a rack mount APC power conditioner. All new electrical, floor is getting the royal treatment too.
However I spent tonight installing an attic ladder. Not fun.
Hey Ray, "Got Pics?!"...lol.
Hopefully this works. I've been unable to post pics now for several days...
http://www.scottshangar.net/b190/haf7a0461#haf7a0461 (http://www.scottshangar.net/b190/haf7a0461#haf7a0461)
Where did you get that Chemtrail control Panel...want one !!!! :D
Not exactly today but over the last week I have converted my sim to 64bit. P3Dv4.2 and Prosim 2. I've been avoiding the switch for quite a while because I wanted to sit back and see how everyone else went with it first. My mate and fellow member Ken Brand talked me into having a crack at the upgrade so we did! We decided to leave the original PC drives untouched and we fitted a 1TB SSD on a different tray, loaded Windows 7 on this and basically started loading the software and programs like a new PC so if anything went wrong we could plug the old drives back in and restore how it was. We can still do that of course but I think the new set up is going well and I don't think there will be a need to go back to the 32bit sim, it's still good to have it there as a back up though I guess. P3Dv4.2 and Prosim 2 loaded fine and we managed to import the Immersive Display warping configuration successfully to restore the display system. Prosim 2 is vastly improved and a really good feature is the ability to program the flight controls, throttle, brakes and tiller all within Prosim, no FSUIPC required. All the analogue inputs were assigned and calibrated in about 20 minutes and we went for a fly. The Prosim 2 flight model and sound set are great. The team at Prosim certainly know how to make things easy. With help from my Worldflight crewmates we managed to restore Prosim Utils, ACARS, ACARS printer, Navigraph, PFPX, TOPCAT and a fresh install of ActiveSky for P3Dv4. I've reloaded about 40% of my add-on sceneries so there's still a lot to do. The Buttkickers aren't working but that should be a quick fix and this weekend I'll be attempting to get Prosim to drive the Auto TQ - fingers crossed!
First impressions of P3Dv4 and Prosim 2 are wow! I can't see a huge improvement in frame rates but it is definitely smoother and doesn't seem to be stuttering, VOZ738 has had a successful heart transplant!!
All of my custom panels come from the good folks at Ruscool Electronics. They've done several panels for me but thought they might have a bit of fun with that one. When the Beech is alive in the new hangar, I've another sim pilot lined up and we're going to do one of those "Government Instructional" videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-vkicKiZg4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-vkicKiZg4)
Just flew out of KSFO for a circuit at dawn.
Hey Everyone,
For my simulator(s), I transported the grey one to the retired pilot who has decided to use it for a parade float instead of a lawn decoration. Currently, it's in his hanger awaiting a custom built trailer for it too be placed on.
Now, here is the final story of the grey cockpit trying to have one last flight!
First, I had the trailer all loaded with the cockpit on the trailer sideways, and inside was the raydome top half along with the wodden platform Karen and I made for it. With everything strapped down tight, I headed from my place to Winona, Minnesota, about a 2 hour drive.
Next, I am driving into La Crosse, WI on I-90 (just before crossing the Mississippi River) and a semi truck was passing me, when all sudden one of his right rear trailer tires blows out right adjacent to my trailer where the cockpit was sitting. Well, all the rubber from his tire blows up into the cockpit and bust my strap holding the raydome half, then the raydome comes flying out and drops below my left trailer tail light ripping it off, from there the raydome flies up in the air about 50 feet to fall back down in front of a really old lady in a small car! She hits her car brakes just missing the raydome that was now skidding along just in front of her! We're talking a skidding road dance here! Anyway, the lady who looked about 90 years did an excellent job of avoiding the raydome, and then she got out of her car to move the raydome off the road.
As for me, I saw all this in the rearview mirror, as I stopped right away. Although, I was alone and being in the wheelchair I couldn't even get out of the van! So, I sat there watching the lady who drove past me waving as if nothing happened. Of course my heart was in my throat and I felt sick because all I could think about was the future lawsuit...you know living in the USA...the land of lawsuits and all.
Then, catching my breath and realizing I did no harm to anyone, I drove to the next exit to back track and go get the raydome. Luckily, I found an area of flat gravel to drop the wheelchair lift about 100 feet away, so there I am out on I-90 with all the afternoon traffic racing by, trying to move and re-strap the raydome to the trailer in front of the cockpit. Lots of fun to say the least, but I managed it and got it all secure. From there I stopped at a gas station to recheck everything and look at the remnants of the left tail light; the housing and lens were gone, but the bulb was still there.
The really funny part of my story is just before leaving on this trip, I spent an hour fixing the left trailer light that was not working properly and I replaced the bulb. Had I just left it alone, I would've hit La Crosse an hour sooner, missing the truck and his tire blowout, with no raydome flying out doing a V1 R V2 scene, nor seeing the older lady out drivng Dale Earnhardt (Earnhardt died in a crash). Plus, I wouldn't have needed to stop and buy an entirely new trailer light before returning home in the dark...
Moral to my story, don't drive big loads alone anymore, don't think all really old people cannot drive anymore, don't fix trailer lights before leaving anymore, and don't think cockpits do not dream of flying anymore, because they still do!
John
PS the picture is the cockpit before leaving :idiot:
Now, the big question is why did I go alone? Well, I thought it was going too be an easy 2 hour drive with no problems, so I told Karen to stay home to work on her garden...
Although, while driving along, she sent me this pic, which got me distracted or kept me from over reacting to the semi trailer's blowout; thereby, avoiding a total wreck!
Here is the pic...she doesn't know I posted this yet!
John
Wow John!! That's quite an experience and I'm sure a memory that will stay with you for a long time. You never know what this hobby will bring forth next. I'm really happy that all turned out well in the end, and I sure hope you're still with us after simlady finds out you posted her pic. lol.
Good all turned out well John. I was glued to the post while reading. I can just imagine how tough it must have been.
Hey Ed,
Yes, that trip is one for the long term memory banks...lol! Now, we're working on getting the back of the white cockpit cutoff, luckily no transporting from me this time. However, I am betting we'll get some sort of send off memories from this one as well...
John
Hey John,
What a story, that must be true, you couldn't make that up.... 8) :)
Glad it all turned out in the end though; and surely there must have been someone that could have ridden shotgun for you?
And I agree with Ed, it could be some time before we hear from you again once Karen see's this post.
Best... Joe.
Hi Joe,
Yep, really true and I should go grab my van's dash board cam to YouTube the footage. Not going too see the actual event, but for sure will see the back tracking and me picking it up off I-90. I'll go get it from the van now...
As for Karen, she'll likely see the pic sooner then later and I already have my defense planned...lol! I posted it to show her in the garden or at least her near it, and to say how hard she works at things...she is really sweating and it was 95 degrees outside!
As a footnote, her yellow top matches my yellow top that's shown in my profile pic... 8) hehehe or did anyone even notice that LOL!
John
Checked the video and the dash cam was on auto loop, so the footage unfortunately got recorded over...darn it! Take my word for it though and here is my new advice, always make sure everything is tripled strapped with cockpit items, they were meant to fly and they're always still trying...lol!
John
I can't top the radome story. (That was a great read. Thanks for sharing!)
The floor guys are currently refinishing the garage floor this week, so thought I'd take her out for a spin and reposition from KHLN to KSEA.
I purchased a Garmin 430 simulator when I was at FSExpo and it arrives today. Just need to figure out how to tell my boss that I'm starting to feel a bit under the weather. (coughcough!)
Today is the last day for the white cockpit being in the hanger/shed, we got it outside and plan to cut the back wall off tomorrow, and then on Friday it'll be trucked to it's new home... Checkout the attached pics.
John
Not much today. Ran 2 CAT-6 Network drops to the garage and punched-down the non-garage side. Have to wait until the floor guys are finished in the garage later this week to punch the drops on the garage side.
Sub-wall goes up on Saturday to wall-off the wood-working area.
Then it's new garage doors, a ton of security equipment, and finally drywall.
Awesome Ray, will you post some pics please? What did you have done to the garage floor...epoxy?
You mentioned a wood working shop on the other side, just curious do you use air filtration units? Those 2 units I got from Public Surplus have made my hanger so much easier to breath in. Although, I am not doing any wood working, I have a lot of fine dust from the gravel driveway outside getting inside, yet the units I put up have made a night and day difference.
Once I get the simulator up and running they should teally keep the dust down to the very minimum, which was a problem in the past while in the garage; especially, with the computers sucking in dust...
John
giving the old girl air con
How many tons is that with both units?
John
Pics!
Tinkered around a bit with a Garmin(ish) 430.
Watching paint dry on the garage floor (Epoxy-Stain mix) and of course a few CAT-6 network drops to the garage.
Next up is the sub-wall this weekend.
Any dust is usually self-induced. I'm putting in a dust recovery system in the wood shop. I cut a lot of MDF and the dust from that material is significant.
Throttle Quadrant finally came in this week!
I have no idea what this connection is on the back. I bought it from Germany (eBay). Anyone know? I've sent FSC.IT an email. Hoping they can help.
Backlighting?
I assume from your other post that this is the TQ you bought on ebay? Is it made by FSC? Is it motorized?
I also assume that if you bought it on eBay, it is no longer under warranty. I suggest you pop the sides off and get to know your TQ. It will save you headaches later. Once you have the sides off you can see what that connector is goes to.
If it is a motorized TQ it has to draw power somewhere. The USB won't be sufficient to drive motors.
If it isn't motorized I would guess backlighting or perhaps a solenoid for the parking brake.
I'd crack it open and figure it out.
Take lots of pics and notes!
Wanting to get some pictures updated, but have done a lot! Backlighting done for all MIP panels, assembled and backlit 2 CDU's, put together most of the annunciators and LED's. Hoping to start assembling the MIP this week.
It is motorized. I think the power comes from a PSU but I'm not totally sure. I've emailed FSC
Quote from: fsaviator on July 07, 2018, 06:52:33 PM
I assume from your other post that this is the TQ you bought on ebay? Is it made by FSC? Is it motorized?
I also assume that if you bought it on eBay, it is no longer under warranty. I suggest you pop the sides off and get to know your TQ. It will save you headaches later. Once you have the sides off you can see what that connector is goes to.
If it is a motorized TQ it has to draw power somewhere. The USB won't be sufficient to drive motors.
If it isn't motorized I would guess backlighting or perhaps a solenoid for the parking brake.
I'd crack it open and figure it out.
Take lots of pics and notes!
I am still looking for ways to model turbulence chop sounds into my sim to make things more realistic. I am playing around with FSUIPC offsets but without any success, I think I will look further into simconnect. Since Accufeel software does not work on P3dv4, it will try to model this myself.
Regards from Istanbul
Okan Sacli
Today the floor guys finished up so I was able to test the CAT-6 Copper..
Success on all fronts!
As I type this, drywall is going up in the new man-cave-sim-hangar.
I named the new wireless network "Delta Skylounge" after testing the CAT-6 network drops..
Pics will be posted tonight.
Hi Ryan. :D
WOOOOOW! That floor looks very nice Ray! I showed your pic to Karen yesterday and I was saying we should get our hanger/shed/Johnny's Toy Box floor done.
We had the garage floor done and it took two weeks from start to finish, that's including drying times, but it looks awesome. I just wonder how long it'll take for 40'x60' or 2,400' sq/ft to get done? Then, the big question is where do we put everything as it all has to come out because I wouldn't want a half & half line...
Has anyone ever done one this big or knows some who has? I'd be interested in hearing about it. In the mean time, I will keep looking at Ray's pics, speaking of which, will you please post a few more with brighter lighting Ray?
John
gave mine a,stripper pole
For you or the wife Bernard? :angel: 8) :idiot:
more walls lol.. funny you should ask at back of building doing a big bbq area hot tub and croquet lawn also have true scale airport 8x25 to adorn 1 wall
least you got yourself a new shitter at the bottom of the stairs in the box... Nice!
PilotEdge just released a new Client that injects VHF Noise, making it waaaay more realistic, so I'll be playing around with that tonight as the plaster dries in the garage-man-cave.
Worked a bit with the new PilotEdge Client (VHF Noise/static injected) and It is a really nice enhancement.
For now though, have to button her up in anticipation of a whole lot of drywall sanding....
"Worked a bit with the new PilotEdge Client (VHF Noise/static injected) and It is a really nice enhancement.
For now though, have to button her up in anticipation of a whole lot of drywall sanding...."
RayS- Very soon sir, we will be flying her to location for major overhaul and move! 8)
1. Drywall hung, mudded, sanded: CHECK!
2. Remaining Millwork complete: CHECK!
3. Mini-Split Heating/AC: Scheduled Install August 1st
4. New Garage Doors: Scheduled Install August 9th
5. New Cabinetry: TBD (Measured, not scheduled)
6. Fort Knox Security System: Open to suggestions...
Primer and paint: This weekend!
Finely got the Airbus Brake Gauge running with SIOC after a few problems with USB disconnects, that I suspect being caused by power surge on some switches on the 240V supply ( RF....)
........Brian W
https://youtu.be/Ms2z6krrWoU
Hey Everyone,
This thread has really got me going today and after all the postings from everyone, my affection...uh, obsession for flight simulation is returning! So much, that I started assembling the FDS Cockpit Nose Kit here in the hanger despite all the mess around it.
Thus, I am on my way back to day upon day of building, installing, doing and redoing, and then flying the virtual skies into the wee hours of the morning...HOORAY!
I attached a single pic for now, but I'll add more as I get further along...
John
Awesome news, John! Keep it going!
Marco
Thanks Marco!
Now comes the funny news! I might have to dismantle it already...LOL!
Why?
Well, since my yoke and pedal platform is a square box shape and the two pilot seat platforms are similar, I have to add onto them some extra platform triangle shapes to fit with the overall shape of the FDS Cockpit.
So, just a few minutes ago Karen looks at the cockpit and asks how will you get it up on the platforms if it's completely together? Me-Deer in the headlights look! She also says I might've put the cart before the horse in all my excitement!
Therefore, I will have to start on the platform before finishing; however, my plan is too put the back vertical curve on the cockpit and measure out the overall floor sizing needed. Then, somewhat take it back a part; maybe, in halves and put it up on the platforms...
AND BAHM! Right back to the normal way of cockpit building...doing and redoing...LOL!
John
Installed Capt table :)
James - What do you think of pilotedge? Better than Vatsim or just a startup alternative? Just curious as I've been reading through their website.
I'm not James but I can answer that for you.
VATSIM, compared to PilotEdge, isn't even a fair comparison. With Vatsim, coverage is spotty, unpredictable, and most of the time the controllers sound like they have their mouth pressed up against the ass of a dead cat.
Pilotedge continues to improve daily. They just released another client that injects VHF noise and the effect is quite realistic. Coverage is always predictable and the controllers are professional in every sense of the word. (Most of the time they even have a sense of humor) As in real life they will scold you for mistakes and for the most part the experience is very enjoyable.
Pilotedge is expensive, no doubt. Given the stability and quality of the PE system, it's worth every penny. When you're not flying you can disable your account which stops the monthly billing. Whenever I have a need for PE ATC, I simply re-enable my account and off we go.
Quote from: blueskydriver on July 27, 2018, 02:35:23 PM
Thanks Marco!
Now comes the funny news! I might have to dismantle it already...LOL!
Why?
Well, since my yoke and pedal platform is a square box shape and the two pilot seat platforms are similar, I have to add onto them some extra platform triangle shapes to fit with the overall shape of the FDS Cockpit.
So, just a few minutes ago Karen looks at the cockpit and asks how will you get it up on the platforms if it's completely together? Me-Deer in the headlights look! She also says I might've put the cart before the horse in all my excitement!
Therefore, I will have to start on the platform before finishing; however, my plan is too put the back vertical curve on the cockpit and measure out the overall floor sizing needed. Then, somewhat take it back a part; maybe, in halves and put it up on the platforms...
AND BAHM! Right back to the normal way of cockpit building...doing and redoing...LOL!
John
Hi John,
I have the same shell. I built a modular base from Nick's design. I had to adjust some measurements though , so if you decide you might follow Nick's plan, let me know and I'll send you my adjusted measurements. It all comes apart in easy to move modules.
Be sure when you build your base that you place the top covers in a way that they can be easily removed for access once the shell is in place. You may already have this info, but just in case :)
NIck's plan: http://elephantair737.blogspot.com/p/sim-base.html (http://elephantair737.blogspot.com/p/sim-base.html)
Hi Ed,
I didn't know about Nick's plans, so thank you big time! I'll love to have your adjustments, please email them to me...check your PM for my email address.
John
green area is rougly 12 wide 25 long 6 high now that base area is painted .. am going to start bending metal for the air con have total of 8 tonnes to duct .. but only 3 for sim ..
Awesome Bernard! Gotta beat that Texas heat right?
John
texas heat 1 bernard 0
Mini-Split Heating and AC go in tomorrow.
Project is on the final stretch! I figure by late August we can start moving the sim.
Ray - That is looking really sweet indeed!
Fred K
Nice finish Ray!
looking good Ray i discovered that making insulated duct work is a real pain ..
Likewise Bernard,
I discovered that being a project manager without being on-site is a real pain in the you-know-what.
The HVAC guys will be out this Monday to unscrew what they so magnificently screwed up last week.
laughing Ray is that not the truth ..heres a beer and a taco to make all good in the world again..i need to.make another 30ft of sq 16inch insulated ..not looking fwd to it
Today made the (Not so) difficult decision to change the wall paint color. No matter how much the name on the can says "Sedate Grey", all I see is "Tope"
(I'm color blind between blues and greens)
The new garage doors go up tomorrow and I start masking/cutting for the new paint color. (With Apologies to James, who helped with the Tope color)
Once that's finished, James will be flying (Driving) up to help re-position the Beech 1900 from KLAS to KIWA (Phoenix–Mesa Gateway Airport) so it can be rolled into the Depot repair facility where it will be torn down and relocated to the new hangar. Been awhile since I flew IFR on PilotEdge so this should be fun/interesting/dangerous!
More to come, and I am making a video of the flight.
Just stay out if icing conditions this time... and for god sakes save the Giraffe.
As for me the simulator is down. #1 cause it is too hot out there for the computers and #2. I just became a grandpa.
So family stuff has to come first.
WOW!!!
CONGRATULATIONS GRANDPA!!!!!!
Enjoy this moments, like you said, Family stuff comes first and we welcome our new sim pilot, love you guys!
Congrats...Welcome to to the club! :D
Quote from: Sam Llorca on August 09, 2018, 04:10:02 AM
WOW!!!
CONGRATULATIONS GRANDPA!!!!!!
Enjoy this moments, like you said, Family stuff comes first and we welcome our new sim pilot, love you guys!
Thanks Bro, Love and miss you guys too!
Quote from: jackpilot on August 09, 2018, 04:31:41 AM
Congrats...Welcome to to the club! :D
I will have her writing code and building in no time LOL
First and foremost, congrats to the new family member, Trevor!
Nextly, the last big purchase item for the sim hangar was installed today. Couldn't be happier with them.
Also painted one wall with the new color and I'm really glad I decided to switch colors (even at the last minute) No pics of that yet. Not until the remaining walls are finished. Probably by Saturday.
Building footing going in...
This is very exciting to watch Sam. :)
Awesome - so looking forward to a trip to KSRQ in November!
This weekend I have finished the radio stack of my piper comanche cockpit:
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A lot of work to do yet!
But everything you see in the last picture is now working with p3dv4 and a2a comanche.
Arturo.
Holy smoke that radio stack is gorgeous!
Grandpa Trev - Congratulations!!!
Sam - Glad to see some higher ground elevation for that building!
Fred K
Watch my new video of the cockpit upgrdes I have just completed.
David
https://youtu.be/ob-IZT46zzE (https://youtu.be/ob-IZT46zzE)
Moving all the computer gear tonight. Have a bit of a spider's nest to deal with.
RAYS
QuoteMoving all the computer gear tonight. Have a bit of a spider's nest to deal with.
That computer cabinet turned out awesome! Although it looks like your computers blew spaghetti chunks onto the floor! :o
Great to see all these things going on...
Hey Ray, I know that feeling! Doesn't it seem like no matter hard you try to prevent it, all wires take on their own life of entanglement?
John
Quote from: blueskydriver on August 16, 2018, 12:20:39 PM
Hey Ray, I know that feeling! Doesn't it seem like no matter hard you try to prevent it, all wires take on their own life of entanglement?
Ain't that the truth! I try to keep my cables nice and zip-tied within their cable storage warehouse but I think they wriggle out of them at night.
Oh yes, I totally agree with that...lol! I got mine hanging on a rod, but anytime I go to remove just 1, 9 more tag along holding on for dear life...lol!
John
Finally installed my AFDS Lighting, only took me the best part of 12 months to get around to it!
Hey Duncan, got pics...click-click?
John
Quote from: blueskydriver on August 22, 2018, 10:35:29 AM
Hey Duncan, got pics...click-click?
John
John,
Here you go, I need to remount the search for the TFC centre button on my EFIS Unit, it's gone wandering off!
The Drawback of doing the AFDS, is I now need to redo the MIP Flood lighting with LEDs as well, the Standard lighting units I have in at the moment aren't cutting the mustard!
Task Manager is running on the MFD as I was keeping an eye on the system usage. New Computer arriving on Monday so planning to redistribute SimA around between the two machines to even out the load.
Dunc
Hey Duncan, thanks for the pic and I must say your setup looks very nice! Envy, envy and more envy...
John
wires yup
I have not visited the site in some time, so I just found out about Trev been a Grandpa. Contratulations !!
I finally got my sim fully flyable again after my whole overhead went dark. I was finally able to trace it to a faulty USB port !!. Then updating versions of ProSim, navdata and P3D V4.3. No to mention reprogramming the OVH. But all is well now. Never a dull moment in this hobby.
Repaired my OpenCockpits ADF Radio Head (damaged wires to and from the Encoder), just need to remember how to code it in SIOC.
I have it displaying Frequencies and swapping between on the Radio Head, just can't see the changes in Sim Avionics - any suggestions would be appreciated!
Next on my list is to strip the 737CL TQ and swap out a dodgy Pot!
Picture is from today on the way into Kai Tak.
Dunc
Been awhile, but we've been waiting for the final cabinet install, which completed on Monday.
Now the "move"... The old sim room I think is haunted because as I move things out of it into the new man-cave, the stuff keeps self-replicating. Need to do a purge I think of things that I may never use. (Until after the day I get rid of it!)
Finally got the New Seats installed. J-Rails and Adaptors via Gwyn and Leo, and Weber Seats from Nick @ APHS!
I have also gotten the ADF radio head working in SIOC which was fun, and installed my Pedestal Flood Light, and its 12v Dimmer!
Will get some photos tomorrow!
Whew... both overheads are finally finished up, mounted and closed up! This is actually the first time both have been completed and installed at the same time, throughout all three builds. I had to run another cable from the pedestal up to the overhead as I had forgotten to rerun the pedestal flood line. So happy I installed a cable runner under the floor and TQ. Took a little bit of yoga to get to it but it worked.
That means all the lighting is installed and working, minus the dome light. It should work but I'm converting it to LED. I am very happy with the circuit breaker lighting I installed too.
Tomorrow is a bit of cleaning up in there and rerunning MIP pots for the MIP lighting and back-lighting as well as drop in the larger oxy mask boxes and hookup the map and spot pots.
Pics tomorow.
Warren
I'm running Prosim on my 737 and was always happy with the IOS software provided by them. A few months ago I purchased FS-FlightControl IOS software which is tightly integrated to Prosim. Love it! Yesterday I acquired an Android tablet and installed the FS-FlightControl app on it so that I could have a fully portable tablet-based IOS. Excellent software package and I would invite others to take a look at it.
WOW! You guys are just doing things big time! Thanks for keeping this thread going ;D
Uh, for my sim, I got 4 coats of shiney wax underneath it on the floor. Yeah, Karen asked me yesterday "is that floor wet?" since we've been getting lots of rain lately, thinking we had a roof leak. I was like "no, that's the wax..." She says "so, I guess the sim will have the sexy wet look all the time...lol!
Anyway, looking forward to the pics Warren...
John
Hey Bernard,
Glad to see you got the AC all setup, it'll be all nice and cool whenever I do come visit! I know that I keep saying that, but I will sometime before or after the first of the year... I am sure that's okay though, as it'll give you more time to work on it :idiot:
John
I have been making progress building the overheads. And by building, i mean actually building.
Sheet metal, clecos, solid riveting etc.
I'm using all new Dzus gear, and new Boeing parts like the Camloc fasteners in the bottom corners etc.
Still test fitting it all up, then disassemble to prime it all and start riveting it all
Could say its a "riveting" experience.... ???
Geeezzz Mick,
That's quite a job, do you work for Boeing :o 8)
No seriously that's awesome work, I look forward to seeing how it all goes together.
Joe.
I second the comments on such a great job. The level of detail requires such a commitment to the hobby. Great work !
Hey Mick,
Ditto to what everyone is saying...AWESOME! Curious, what did you use the cut them out...plasma, laser cnc, water cutter? Whatever it was, all I can say is "are you going to start mass producing and selling them?" If so, mark me for the AFT Overhead :idiot:
John
mick and i thought i was a lunatic 😉...
Quote from: mickc on September 23, 2018, 10:41:47 PM
I have been making progress building the overheads. And by building, i mean actually building.
Sheet metal, clecos, solid riveting etc.
I'm using all new Dzus gear, and new Boeing parts like the Camloc fasteners in the bottom corners etc.
Still test fitting it all up, then disassemble to prime it all and start riveting it all
Could say its a "riveting" experience.... ???
Hi Mick,
How did you get the what appear to be perfectly square cutouts?
Quote from: blueskydriver on September 24, 2018, 08:03:28 AM
Hey Mick,
Ditto to what everyone is saying...AWESOME! Curious, what did you use the cut them out...plasma, laser cnc, water cutter? Whatever it was, all I can say is "are you going to start mass producing and selling them?" If so, mark me for the AFT Overhead :idiot:
John
Cheers John and others
John these parts are cut with a CNC waterjet machine. I have had stuff laser cut before and on the thinner 1/16" panels they can distort a little bit.
I had used the waterjet guys to cut some new instrument glass pieces, and very happy with the results. It does cost more than laser cutting as it takes longer to cut, but there is much less clean up compared to laser cut aluminium. The machine used to do this can cut up to 90mm thick mild steel or 125mm thick granite/stone.
Below is a shot of most of the parts before folding/countersinking etc. Not shown are all the doublers, support rails & brackets and the connector mounting plates.
As to your other question, I will start mass producing them around the 5th of Never ;) It has taken almost 2 years to get this far, the measurement and drawings took almost 12 months alone.
With all the new OEM parts, lightplates, Korrys, connectors etc, there is over 25k invested in the overheads, without any labour costs :o Not to mention i have a constant stream of instruments coming through the door for repair/sim conversion that drag me away from my own sim work enough :D
Thanks Mick, bad news I guess, I was hoping to cut everything with my el cheapo CNC machine, but looks like that's unlikely to happen :(.
But looks like your work and investment is paying off, looks amazing.
Wow mickc. That's absolutely stunning! Well done, I understand all the hard work behind these beautiful panels
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I did some nice flights in the northern arctic part of Canada.
Worth a try as nav can be tricky up there.
P3D +FTX Global and Vector provide a very nice scenery .
Runways are +/- 6000' and manageable for the 73.
Several legs are advisable as Montreal-Alert is a 6H00 flight
Montreal -- Kujujack -- Iqaluit -- Resolute...and last but not least...Alert, the most northern CAF base which was set up during the cold war to ''listen" to potential missiles from USSR. Base is still active and real close to the pole at 82°30'05" north.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alert,_Nunavut
Hey Jack,
You should make some videos of your North Pole flights and any others really. A GoPro camera or two and you'd be all set... Plus, we all need to see more flying videos to encourage the building; hopefully, Trevor will be doing his live streaming again soon.
If you do some, don't worry about looking all professional, just put the camera a few feet behind the ped on a tripod and let it record. Set the GoPro on wideview and that's it. :idiot:
John
The rudders are finally complete and installed, enabling the rest of the sim to be put back together. installed the rudders then moved on to the seat power controller last night.
(Why do some images display upside down? I wasn't
that tired! ;-) ))
They show up all right... :P
Yep, they flip on viewng Ray...
To post or not to post is the question...
Famous quote there, but it works well for the "to post..." part. So, keep the posts coming...everyday I look forward to reading them!
John
All lights on the TQ is completed with wires.
Man, the ULN2803a is the best thing since sliced bread!
A pic of the backlight.
Looks very nice Peter, you wanna do mine?
John
Build the circuit? Code? No problem John! :)
Its been a busy few weeks
New Seats (removed from N669SW) & J-Rails
EFB Mounts
Captain Side Clock
Pedestal Flood Light
ADF Radio Head (& Coding)
Just the Back wall to go on ahead of WorldFlight now!
building surface management system in the making and test fit
Haha Nice Bernard!
Wish i could fly over and check out that sim of yours! Its quite the setup! 😊
more work on statuons
Will this then be your IOS?
That's pretty cool, Bernard! I love the old phones :-) My wife and I frequent the local Goodwill store as sometimes one can find amazing treasures. I could keep an eye out for you for the original-style phones like that if you want...
yes please x1 red would be nice as would x1 black
I'll see what I can do. :D
Bernard, I have a new, black, ATT Trimline 210 phone I bought for the sim a while back but won't use now as I have an OEM passenger address system handset. You're more than welcome to it.
All 3 projectors are going up this weekend thanks to much-need help from James!
green walks i do not like painting
Put up some LCD monitors with airport/aircraft graphics playing and the green painted walls will just be a hardly noticed background color... :idiot:
John
there is a method to maddness just hang about
Posted some updates from this weekend on my build thread: http://www.cockpitbuilders.com/community/index.php?topic=644.msg52538;topicseen#new (http://www.cockpitbuilders.com/community/index.php?topic=644.msg52538;topicseen#new)
Here's a preview.
Hey Guys,
Thanks for the continued posts...
-Ray, looking forward to seeing those 3 projectors up and running, along with some videos.
-Bernard, yep definitely know you are full of surprises and we all enjoy when they come. ;D
-Warren, like the other guys, you're totally on top of it with your sim project. All those years with your job(s) and moving home life has finally paid off for you. Now, it's nothing but sim, sim, simulator...HOORAY!
For all the new members following this thread, take a look at these guys other threads, as well as those of other members, as there is a wealth of information on simulator building. You'll likely find answers to your questions, if not just ask any of them either in a post or PM.
IMHO, Cockpit Builders is the best website for building any simulator. Be it big iron or sleek regional jets, nimble fighters, awesome helicopters or the vast array of amazing propeller driven aircraft, you'll find someone here who has either built it or is building it now. If not, then you can be the first and teach us all...
John
Last night I replaced the polarized glass in one of my Avidyne PFD units and also started learning CAD using Fusion-360.
Talk about a steep learning curve!
Nah Fusion 360 is easy Ray, Trev told me ;) 8)
Quote from: RayS on October 16, 2018, 11:45:45 AM
Last night I replaced the polarized glass in one of my Avidyne PFD units and also started learning CAD using Fusion-360.
Talk about a steep learning curve!
lol....try SolidWorks
Fusion 360 is very close in design to Solidworks I think Autocad based the interface on it.
Personally I find that Sketchup is easier to use but it's certainly not as flexible as Fusion and some projects would be practically impossible to draw in Sketchup. Well for me anyway. So I'm learning Fusion as well. 8)
Joe
I use Solidworks, it is a steep curve but does a great job.
Im using 2014 version that I sort of "had to buy" - i was using a key off the internet and after a while I got a nasty letter from Dassault Systems. Apparently it calls home whenever it is run. ::)
Basically i had to buy the full version - almost 9k Australian. Lesson Learned!
For quick and easy jobs like for 3D printing i use Fusion 360
I use Tinkercad, the learning curve is easy, and I tried Fusion and after about 10 beers I removed it form my pc LOL
Hey Guys,
From my original post a while back, I am still yet to find the Fire Pull handles for my B1900.
Wondering if any of you with one of your fancy 3D printers and design knowledge could whip some up for me? If they could be attached to a push/pull switch that would be even better.
Willing to pay, buy beer etc.
Joe.
What have I done today? Spent waaaaayyyy too much money on it. Again. Can I get a witness? ;)
Hey Joe,
I can print one for you, but designing it is a different matter. PM Joe Leavey and ask him if he can do the model... My only charge would be a spool of filament and shipping costs to mail the item to you.
John
Hey Woody,
Yep, it's never ending when spending money for a hobby you love...but don't worry, you'll get used too it...lol!
John
Quote from: blueskydriver on October 17, 2018, 09:38:28 AM
Hey Woody,
Yep, it's never ending when spending money for a hobby you love...but don't worry, you'll get used too it...lol!
John
Roger that! ;D
As soft and hard work fine, I concentrate on something else... :D
Building a galley
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Bought the simworld PnP DST MIP ;D
Hey Jack,
You surely are stepping the game up here...looks awesome! Now, if only I could stayed focused like you and the other guys...
John
Hi Emi,
That's awesome! How about doing a new member introduction post and tell us all about it. Plus, please post some pics...
Welcome to Cockpit Builders!
John
Hi John, thank you very much for having us. So this is a father son project. My dad was always interested in planes and model railway (HO Märklin) and started building RC planes in his youth...
I made my first flight sim experience with X-Plane v.4.7 , A-10 Cuba, F/A- 18 on a Macintosh Performa 630. Many years later "we" switched over to PC and FS2004 was the coolest thing ever...
The MIP will arrive in the near future. I wlll definitely post some pictures.
John,
Thanks for the offer of printing the fire handles, Ill keep that in mind. Will pm Joe to see if he would be willing to design something.
I dont have the time myself to try to get this started ( or the software or the printer ) so looking for an off the shelf
purchase solution.
Joe.
Hi Joe, that's weird, I'm Joe. :)
Anyway if you have some images and perhaps an overall dimension (or two) I'll certainly have a crack at drawing one up for you.
I've not seen one for the B1900 so I have no idea what they look like. I have drawn up quite detailed drawing for the 737, which are lying around somewhere.
So it will be a challenge,
Cheers
Joe.
Hi Joe,
Thanks for the offer, really appreciate it. Please let me know how to compensate ( beer, benjamins, etc )
I dont have any official documentation regarding size, but I will grab a couple of pics shortly and post them up ( or pm if you prefer ). They look pretty straightforward, just a T handle really.
Joe
Hi Joe,
These are some close ups from what I could pull off google images.
Forgot how to insert pictures, they should be attached though.
Joe.
They look okay, a couple of questions are they to be illuminated and have you any idea of the shape of those red bits on each end?
Also a rough guide to the size would be great.
If they're to be illuminated they will need to be made our of quite thin filament yet strong enough to be pulled. Are you going to fit them to a solid rod, or should that be part of the handle?
Sorry for all the questions but I've done a lot of designing and it's better to have all the information before you start.
Incidentally I'm away for a couple of days so I'll have a look at all this on Monday
.
Joe
The red tip is threaded and is where you can unscrew and change the bulb from I beleive. I sold a set of these "with the fire pull switches" to Ray, (Real Ones) for his 1900. they are illuminated.
Nice kit.
Trev
Thanks Trev, perhaps Ray will jump in with a couple of pictures and a dimension or two for me.
Al the best
Joe
I'll send some pics/measurements of the handles and the switch mechanism. I'm surprised at how robust the mechanics are.. but then again.. fire handles!
Look for something here this weekend.
Is the white a somewhat clear color or just a white opaque, same for the red parts? Thinking filaments here...
John
Not white, Its Opague Like the clear Filament. like a clear lego block LOL If I remember right though the red tips are solid.
Well, for the first time since May, my sim is up and running! A few things to fix but not bad for a 6 month hangar.... Pictures soon....
Hey Bob,
Glad to hear you're back in the air! Now, if only I could get past the yard work to get my sim back up...Karen and I were spreading gravel in the dark last night until 9pm. Our neighbors love us!
John
Hey Trev,
What type of filament do you suggest; do you have some links?
John
Quote from: blueskydriver on October 19, 2018, 11:06:16 AM
Hey Bob,
Glad to hear you're back in the air! Now, if only I could get past the yard work to get my sim back up...Karen and I were spreading gravel in the dark last night until 9pm. Our neighbors love us!
John
How much noise can spreading gravel make? :D You need to get your cockpit back in the air!!
LOL, well I should've mentioned we were using the skid-steer as well...very noisy ;D
I agree about my cockpit and I just now got out to the hanger/shed and hope to do something with it...
John
I have a spare set of fire control handles, sans the switch mechanism.
However they are red, and the lettering is vertical. Pics to come tonight
Thanks Ray,
Much appreciated.
If you could also give me the size of the unit that would be great.
Joe
Trev, Ray et all,
Thanks for jumping in with the details on those handles. Joe, not much else left to answer. I am not worried about them being illuminated if that makes things easier. Also the switch pole diameter does'nt matter, in fact if you keep it solid I will just drill & tap it for whatever switch I decide to go with.
The side caps are grimes bulb/light caps ( I think ) I would say they are around the size of an american 5 cent piece ( half inch roughly )
Not to fussed with intricate detail, just something that looks kinda like them.
Joe.
Hope these images help! If you're ok with the vertical text, I can just send these to you...
I finally got her airborne today!
Still need to
-map the annunciators/outputs
-rerun some of the MIP backlighting
-figure out the encoders within Prosim
-for some reason my Polulu Maestro in the MIP is not showing up
-get the audio configured
-set up the comms
-figure out why the Captain side recall switch doesn't work
I did get to fly a circuit though. I also need to finally get around to putting the liner back up in front of the overhead. right now it's just sitting on the glareshield.
If you closely at the second picture, you'll see my next big headache. Projectors are starting to fail - and I need to at some point decide if I go the projector or five LCD route next.
That looks gorgeous. Glad you're able to get back into the pattern!
Thanks for the photo Ray, that should be fine.
I'll have a look at drawing it when I get home later today.
Regards
Joe
Hi Guys,
Just arrived home from my travels, so I thought I'd draw up this handle for (the other Joe). Image Attached.
I've made the two end bits separately but they can be printed as one unit if you prefer, my thought being they could be printed in transparent red filament and fitted with a 3m LED... just a thought ;)
Anyway I assume that John will be printing these, I can supply whichever style you prefer.
Let me know if they look okay and I'll upload them to John and Thingiverse.
Joe.
Hey Joe,
Man that is some nice work you did! You're one heck of an artist/modeler!
Okay, send me all the files for the items together and separate. I'll get things setup and order the transparent/translucent red and white filament.
For the Joe who wants these items, my deal is that you only pay for the materials and shipping. Thus, I can send you the links for ordering the filament spools, and then you place the order, having the items shipped to me. Or, I just bill you and you pay me via PayPal (shipping would be included). Assumingely, you've worked out compensation with Joe Lavery already, so I leave that to you and him...
For anyone else following along, this method of getting things modeled by Joe and printed by me is going rather well. If you have something in mind, post about it and who knows, it might be doable.
John
Way to go Warren! You are back in the wild blue yonder...HOORAY!
Regarding your choice of projectors over LCD monitors, I'd suggest going to visit Scott Wagner or one of the other guys who are doing the monitors. That way you get a feel for it before committing to them.
Also, can you just buy some new chips for your projectors and exchange them yourself to fix the white dot/dead pixel issues?
John
Replaced Hydraulic Brake Pressure indicator with the new one.
Good Morning All,
Thanks again everyone for the pics, dimensions etc.
Joe,
Those handles look great, thanks so much for doing that and the tip with illumination. Again, please let me know how to compensate you ( pm if you want to )
John,
Yeah if you want to order the filament ( probably better as you know what to get ) and I will just fix you up via paypal for everything ( reply to this post or pm me with details). Out of curiosity, how much filament would something like this use?
Joe.
Thanks Joe,
But I'm not expecting anything for drawing these for you, it's my pleasure. ;)
If it was a complex drawing I may have to consider my time, so I hope these work out okay for you, I have modeled them with an 8mm hole in the base for you to attach a switch, or however you're going to construct them.
You will have to drill a small hole to take the LED and pf course route the wires through the handle to power them. I could have modeled these tracks but you said you had no intention of illumining them.. :-\ Still it will be easy enough if you go that route.
All the best.
John, I'll email you the files later today. I have split them into a complete unit with the ends attached, (which is the simplest design), a single center section and a file with both end parts. I would suggest printing them at .1 mm layer height to make sure the text is clear. But of course that's your department.
Cheers
Joe.
Joe L.
My new ( very old) HSI collins 331a is finished, and interfaced with A2A Comanche in Prepar3d v4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY412JhUY6I&t=35s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY412JhUY6I&t=35s)
I sold my king 525a to a friend, so I needed a new one for me. I really like this HSI.
I took out link2fs and now I write my own comunications scripts through FSUIPC.
I will migrate to this new way of communication all the instruments.
Arturo.
Wow - I am so impressed with OEM guys and their hard work. Scares me - give me off the shelf whenever possible :)
Quote from: _alioth_ on October 22, 2018, 09:53:24 AM
My new ( very old) HSI collins 331a is finished, and interfaced with A2A Comanche in Prepar3d v4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY412JhUY6I&t=35s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY412JhUY6I&t=35s)
I sold my king 525a to a friend, so I needed a new one for me. I really like this HSI.
I took out link2fs and now I write my own comunications scripts through FSUIPC.
I will migrate to this new way of communication all the instruments.
Arturo.
Think I just crapped myself.. Nice.... I have no idea how you guys do it either, but waaaay out of my league.
Nicely done.
Trev
Joe (Mesa),
Okay, I will get with you via PM about all of this soon... As for your question, I would guess a quarter roll or thereabouts. There are small spools and large. However, I buy the larger to make sure I have enough, better more then less I always say...lol!
John
In case anyones's interested in the B1900 Fire Handle files, they're now on Thingiverse for anyone to freely download.
If you have a 3D printer it's a marvelous source of designs.
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3170658 (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3170658)
Joe L
Quote from: blueskydriver on October 22, 2018, 07:09:07 AM
Regarding your choice of projectors over LCD monitors, I'd suggest going to visit Scott Wagner or one of the other guys who are doing the monitors. That way you get a feel for it before committing to them.
Thanks, John. As Scott can tell you, I've been trying to get up there to visit for years to see his setup, and he's done all but convince me the LCDs are the way to go. I do love that immersion with the projectors though.
Quote
Also, can you just buy some new chips for your projectors and exchange them yourself to fix the white dot/dead pixel issues?
My current projectors aren't HD (tells you how long I've had them...), so I won't put any more money into them. The cost of the DLP chips isn't worth it. I did replace one with a used one a while back and it helped. I also popped all the chips out and replaced the thermal paste, but they were already on the way out. Just bought some time really.
The real issue is I'm a year out from retirement, and about 18 months from leaving Tampa to settle in Greece for a few years. Not sure if I want to make a 16ft x 16ft space a factor again at that point as my house there won't accommodate easily. Let's see what this holiday shopping season does to prices.
Had a chance to lower the left/right seat platforms by an inch tonight. I'm of a relatively tall stature so the original seat height felt normal. However,m when friends came over to fly it was less than comfortable for them. (Luckily my seats adjust!)
Still to do:
1. Align the 3rd projector
2. Install / Link the co-pilot yoke.
3. Re-do the power distribution wiring rats nest
4. Finish building the rear cab
5. install new ventilation system for the eyeball vents
6. Re-wire overhead dimmer controls with KGS LT-70 dimmers
7. Add new 28Vdc power supply to drive dimmers
8. Install new side panels with windows / doors
9. Connect everything to server rack
10. Install working windshield wipers
It's still a long list, but slowly getting there......
Once again, I flew it!! And I did start tinkering again. I am stuck with an autobrake problem that is related to the aircraft I am using. If I use the PM flight model the Autobrake works fine. If I use the SimA flight model I can not get the Autobrake to go into RTO mode. It is a user issue I am sure... Will figure it out. Nice to be back!
Today i missed out on both Window Trim and Gear handle on ebay...
did this still a,wip
Hey Bernard,
Looks very nice, but it appears that you're going for an ATC setup (which is awesome), as those console units are very similar to tower ATC units...
John
I actually thought it was the transporter room on the Enterprise
my sim my money my.madness 😉..if people dont like it then write me a chq to change it lol
Hi Bernard,
We're not criticizing you at all, actually we are admiring your work...be it looking like an ATC Control Console or Star Trek Transporter Room, that means it's a really cool thing! Being an ATC Controller is awesome and having a setup would be great, as well as it being a Star Trek item would be even more awesome. I mean who doesn't love Star Trek...uh, okay...unless you love Star Wars instead...lol!
So no worries mate, you're doing amazing things and we like it :D
John
As Bernard said - we are truly enjoying the craftsmanship of your builds. Sorry that our attempt at humor offends anyone. We truly appreciate all the work everyone does to make this such a great hobby. Please keep posting - your ideas and designs will inspire others to step out of the box and try new things.
more fun
Well the sim will get a new SSD hard drive today. Fingers crossed! When I installed P3Dv4 I did not see an option to change the directory it would be installed in. Either it was not there or I was in too much of a hurry, probably the case, to look for it. Fast forward to now. 3 days before WorlFlight I purchased Orbx. I came home form Orbx and wanted to install it... Well my tiny little SSD that was my C drive just would not do it. What to do.... I ordered a new SSD that wold more then hold all my Sim stuff and set a path forward for when I start to run out of space again which I will. Cloned the drive last night and am going to install it back into the computer and hit the magic power button.. Wish me luck!
Best of luck Bob,
But you know already that the new drive is never going to be big enough... :angel: ;D
Orbx continues to model the world, now in even higher resolution. The latest UK scenery (TrueEarth GB South) is over 27GB and that's the compressed size before installation. As they expand the areas covered it's going to consume huge amounts of space. So probably not for most folk in this forum, who tend to fly the big tin.
;D
Don't forget, cyber Monday is just around the corner... there will be great deals on SSDs at Newegg, Fry's, and places like that. They need to get rid of old stock
Progress on getting the 1900 back in the air has been slower than expected. Tonight I'm re-committing to getting one major component re-installed each week.
Tonight the co-pilot yoke went back in. This weekend will be spent re-installing all the linkage to get each yoke connected again. I miss flying her!
Well the hard drive clone went very well. Installing Orbx, not so well! lol I am sure this is another self inflicted issue. If I tinker I can get it all working but the minute I say, buy a new airport and install it, the sim is broke again. If I go and try to move to another airport or try and load a different flight P3D crashes to the desktop. This is a scenery issue for sure. Well see if I can get a band aid on it today, with Trevor's help as in the next 2 months I am building a new computer and I will have to do a new build on all the sim software anyway. Oh, how much do I love this hobby??? :P
Quote from: Joe Lavery on November 16, 2018, 10:09:26 AM
Best of luck Bob,
But you know already that the new drive is never going to be big enough... :angel: ;D
Orbx continues to model the world, now in even higher resolution. The latest UK scenery (TrueEarth GB South) is over 27GB and that's the compressed size before installation. As they expand the areas covered it's going to consume huge amounts of space. So probably not for most folk in this forum, who tend to fly the big tin.
;D
Yes Joe, I do know how ever big of a drive I bought, it would have never been big enough! But you will notice I did build a moving forward plan into this scenario! :laugh:
Co-pilot yoke is installed and linked!
Left to do:
Wire in the center console
Wire in the overhead console
New side panels
Finish rear cab
....so close.
Not today, but this weekend I have interfaced the 2.0 version of my ADI.
I have update the arduino mega to an Arduino Due, which is really fast!. And I have improved my scripts for comunication fsuipc <-> arduino and some other updates in the code.
Very happy with the result. Smooth and reponsive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4hwjwpkHTU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4hwjwpkHTU)
And I am doing some code lines to simulate the startup sequence of a vacuum ADI. Arduino Due is fast, and I can use real vibration equations and link them with vacuum gyro speed. Testing it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtPEWfXD97E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtPEWfXD97E)
I LOVE Arduino Due!! bye bye mega.
Arturo Moreno.
OMG - reminds me of watching the gyro as a tennager and being so in love with aviation :)
Great work!
Tonight will mark a significant milestone wrt the new hangar space...
The last of the pit will be put together and the last of the internal wiring connected.
Next up: The task of connecting the sim to the server rack.
Flying next weekend? Fingers crossed!
Took the sim for the last flight before the major upgrade to the main computer system. Great little flight. Took some pics of the "numbers" so I have a base to compare too. This weekend, build a new computer! ??? Oh what fun!
I feel like I missed out on Cyber-Monday... All y'all bought newer faster shinier computer bits!
Yeah but we all gotta pay for them LOL
The new computer is assembled and running. Have a little of the software installed. Much more to go. Will put the computer back "into" the sim tomorrow and start working on setting up the monitors for the main view. So much more to do before I can fly. I hope it was all worth it...We will see.....
I'm installing P3D v4.4 on all three projection PCs this weekend. A test on the host visual did not show any change in frame rate so that is a good thing.
Will report any visual changes this week. I think I will have to wait until some scenery designers start using the new materials rendering capabilities before we see much.
After 6 months of downtime, a move to a new facility and lots and lots of system upgrades, I'm finally at the point to conduct a full power-up systems check.
In all honesty, I've been ready for a few days but have been reluctant to power anything up. Things could go really well or they could go really expensive if any of that magic smoke got out.
In the words of Doris Day: "Que será, será". Whatever will be will be, right?
So I applied power to everything......
One by one, everything started to light up like a Christmas tree, indicating that the sim was undergoing power-up checks.
In a few minutes everything was successfully powered up.
After walking through various systems check, everything looked good there as well.
The only things that didn't work were the fuel gauges and the flaps gauge. I had forgotten a ground wire which is kind of funny. In high school I took a class in advanced electronics. Our final project was to acquire a tube radio, bring it to class, completely tear it down and rebuild it.
My radio was the only one that worked after the rebuild, but only after the teacher noted I had missed a ground wire.
Queue Doris Day. :-)
Ray, I did something similar a few years ago when I was building a synthesiser. The instrument had a touch keyboard with over 300 diodes in a matrix, which I soldered in the right way around. Then the very last components were a pair of large mains capacitors, so naturally I managed to solder one of those the wrong way around. I didn't get a lot of magic smoke but the near explosion it caused when I switched it on frightened the life out of me. ;)
Joe
Today is the day... I am upgrading to P3D4! Just running a single 1920x1080 screen right now.
Installed P3D4 and ran a stock/default FSXMark07 Benchmark to get the starting numbers. With my old GTX670 installed, my FPS were min 82 / max 137 / avg 113.
I decided to hold off upgrading the CPU/MB/RAM until I see what gains I get with just the GPU change. I'm still running an i7-3770K @ 3.50Ghz. That's P3D4 minimums.
Just installed my shiny, new RTX2070 and Nvidia Drivers v417.22. No OC or adjustments.
Ran another Benchmark and FPS were min 82 / max 147 / avg 121.
So there you have it. If anyone was curious as to what difference just a GPU upgrade makes!
Incidentally, I ran the Benchmark on my tweaked and stable FSX install with the 670 and this is what I had (keeping in mind that I have a ton of scenery installed, and the benchmark tool has a VC in it that I didn't have in P3D): FPS were min 11 / max 31 / avg 17.
Now it is time to reinstall Orbx and Rex and Active Sky... and airports etc.
This weekend I plan to redo my screen and hopefully get my GTX1080Darbees up and running!
Out of curiousity, I just slammed all the sliders to the right and reran the benchmark... FPS are min 29 / max 53 / avg 41
When you add the 3 screens and the full ORBX you will notice a drop down to 1/3 what you had with one monitor.. However.. The frames in 4.3 are very stable, if you have 30, they stay around 30, if you have 25 they stay around 25.
Food for thought.. One thing to mention is a clean install makes everything beautiful.. Just don't mess with the typical tweaks or NI changes.. Only adjust the Sliders in 4.3
Remember (Cloud draw distance, traffic, and LOD) are your biggest framerate killers followed closely by the AA Settings.
Good Luck!
Oh... And I almost forgot.. Unless your going to be flying underwater, leave the Bathymetry off LOL
Quote from: Trevor Hale on December 05, 2018, 09:55:59 AM
Food for thought.. One thing to mention is a clean install makes everything beautiful.. Just don't mess with the typical tweaks or NI changes.. Only adjust the Sliders in 4.3
Remember (Cloud draw distance, traffic, and LOD) are your biggest framerate killers followed closely by the AA Settings.
Good Luck!
Oh... And I almost forgot.. Unless your going to be flying underwater, leave the Bathymetry off LOL
Thanks Trevor. so what you're saying is don't worry about all the tweaks and Nvidia Inspector settings from FSX... just use the p3d4 sliders?
Any recommendations on AI Traffic? WOAI?
Warren
WOAI used to be fantastic with FS9
Apparently some aircrafts do not work with P3D (Missing parts etc)
My sim is not hooked to the net, accordingly I'd like a good AI program working as a stand alone as WOAI did.
Also asking for recommandations
Jack
Ultimate Traffic Live is the only AI option specifically compatible with P3Dv4.
It works OK but is missing cargo aircraft (FedEx and UPS etc.) which has been promised but does not appear to be anywhere near materializing. There is a workaround to add cargo scheduling and third party P3Dv4 compatible cargo aircraft but it is really a bit cumbersome to do.
Fred K
Quote from: fsaviator on December 05, 2018, 12:10:04 PM
Quote from: Trevor Hale on December 05, 2018, 09:55:59 AM
Food for thought.. One thing to mention is a clean install makes everything beautiful.. Just don't mess with the typical tweaks or NI changes.. Only adjust the Sliders in 4.3
Remember (Cloud draw distance, traffic, and LOD) are your biggest framerate killers followed closely by the AA Settings.
Good Luck!
Oh... And I almost forgot.. Unless your going to be flying underwater, leave the Bathymetry off LOL
Thanks Trevor. so what you're saying is don't worry about all the tweaks and Nvidia Inspector settings from FSX... just use the p3d4 sliders?
Any recommendations on AI Traffic? WOAI?
Warren
That's Right... Any changes in Nvidia Inspector based on my research (And Others) will work against you in Prepar3D V4.X However test as you may, but make a backup of your configs before you do.
As Fred Said... LM Explicitly states not to port P3DV3.0/V2.X/V1.x/FSX Addons into V4.X or you can expect some very bad things... Not only should the developers Addons meet the SDK Requirements put forth by LM, you must ensure the product is recompiled for V4.X
Some developers just repackage the software to point to the new V4.0 Directory. This will cause you Pain and suffering down the road.
Trev
Made my own airline livery :idiot:
Love the tail logo !
Nice slonick.. :D
Hey Everyone,
Thank you for keeping this thread alive! Even though I mentioned this before, it really helps me a great deal each and every day. Much like the Cockpit Builders website does for me every time I check it, this one thread just keeps me going with my project, so please keep posting...
Speaking of my project, or what I've done for my simulator today? Well, not really anything, but I've started looking into a new computer build, since mine is still a I7 2600K. After reading some of your guys postings on the subject, I might go for a new 4 PC setup; although, it might not be until 2019.
Still, the biggest question is, what is the best 4 PC setup to use? Or, what are you using now for a 4 PC setup, assuming you have one. If so, what is your opinion of the setup, as well as are you looking to replace your current setup for an entirely new 4 PC setup?
Last question; what is largest known multi PC setup known and being used now? What would a 6 PC setup be like, with one for each monitor (or projector) and one for the server? I'm just wondering what the PC specs need too be in this scenario?
John :idiot:
QuoteHey Everyone,
Thank you for keeping this thread alive! Even though I mentioned this before, it really helps me a great deal each and every day. Much like the Cockpit Builders website does for me every time I check it, this one thread just keeps me going with my project, so please keep posting...
Speaking of my project, or what I've done for my simulator today? Well, not really anything, but I've started looking into a new computer build, since mine is still a I7 2600K. After reading some of your guys postings on the subject, I might go for a new 4 PC setup; although, it might not be until 2019.
Still, the biggest question is, what is the best 4 PC setup to use? Or, what are you using now for a 4 PC setup, assuming you have one. If so, what is your opinion of the setup, as well as are you looking to replace your current setup for an entirely new 4 PC setup?
Last question; what is largest known multi PC setup known and being used now? What would a 6 PC setup be like, with one for each monitor (or projector) and one for the server? I'm just wondering what the PC specs need too be in this scenario?
Hi John
I am currently running a 6 computer setup using WideView for my multi-channel P3D displays:
P3D WV Server (I7-7700K / GTX 980)*
P3D WV Client / Left Visual (I7-8700K / GTX 1080Ti)
P3D WV Client / Center Visual (I7-8700K / GTX 1080Ti)
P3D WV Client / Right Visual (I7-8700K / GTX 1080Ti)
SimA Server (I7-4790K / GTX 1080)
SimA Client (I7-4790K/ (2)GTX 980s)
*Not used for a visual display
I am using Optoma GT1080 Darbees for projection.
This beast is running very well right now. I really do not think you will get better P3D display performance doing it any other way.
Obviously there is a cost factor for all the hardware, but that is not as bad as it may seem once you have made the initial investment. For example, I typically upgrade my P3D Client display computers every 3 years, "handing down" the older computers for SimA etc. which requires less performance power. So the ongoing investment averages one new "high end" computer per year. Considering all else I have invested in my cockpit this really is not the outrageous part.
That said, it is a beast to setup since you have to build 4 separate P3D computers. It is all the add-on sceneries that kills you (I have over 60 airport upgrades). Needless to say I have it all backup cloned if there is a disaster, and thankfully there have been minimal issues in the past recent years on that front.
It all boots up mostly automatically except setting up weather etc. I am up and running with a "cold and dark" cockpit in about 6-7 minutes from the time I press the "ON" buttons on the computers.
Oh...and one other thing....all that hardware generates a lot of heat. So that is something to consider if you are operating in a confined space. I have a modular cooling unit to deal with that. The interesting thing is that the heat issue is less of an issue now than it was back in the Pentium chip days. The micro electronics architecture has steadily become more heat efficient even though performance power has increased significantly.
Fred K
briefing area floor yet to done and little ad hoc stuff
Cleaned the simroom floor!
Christmas present for myself: just installed Zotac 1080Ti AMP! edition instead of MSI 980Ti.
:2cw:
What are you going to do with your 980 Nic? Maybe my 970 could get an upgrade LOL
Quote from: Trevor Hale on December 10, 2018, 10:59:53 AM
What are you going to do with your 980 Nic? Maybe my 970 could get an upgrade LOL
Well, I am thinking of upgrading my sim PC later next year, then 980ti could go back in "old" PC and 1080ti to the new...
This weekend I have made the hardware and electronics of the Stec-30 autopilot V2.0 (the release candidate 🙃) for my A2A comanche home cockpit. The main switch has a buzzer (for "beep" "beep" changing mode). The push buttons will be in the yoke (AP desconnect and ALT hold). Now de led indicators are all dimmable, to fly night or day.
It was very dificult to find a potentiometer with a push button for mode change (I only find two in the world, I bought them, and the feeling was really bad). So I have made one that works perfect! with a pot and a push button, with the help of my dear 3d printer.
![](https://i.imgur.com/tKHbOoQ.jpg)
![](https://i.imgur.com/jteVFKd.jpg)
![](https://i.imgur.com/V4w31WA.jpg)
Now I have to fix some programming, but it will work more or less the same like v1.0 version. Here is a vid of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?)
I will post a video with this second version showing all the functions.
Arturo.
Arturo,
A very nice job. Do you do the housing and guts all yourself because it really looks like an
OEM one.
Les
Quote from: iwik on December 10, 2018, 02:24:28 PM
Arturo,
A very nice job. Do you do the housing and guts all yourself because it really looks like an
OEM one.
Les
Thanks.
The original gauge is a turn coordinator from an old AST300 simulator. It was only a turn coordinator instrument, that was made with a real turn coordinator gauge replacing the ball system with a big galvanometer. The turn rate and ball are galvanometers, which I already interfaced with prepar3d.
So, I drilled the plate and put the led indicators, made the new text in the upper side, electronics, arduino, etc,. to emulate a real Stec30, like this one:
![](https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Faxoplasmic.com%2FCardinal%2Fturncoord.2.jpg&hash=4a90fc3fb993d90c4a58842175ee49e414f6a41b)
It is not perfect, but I am quite happy with the result. I should try to find a better knob..
My whole cockpit is being made with real gauges with some mods.
Arturo.
floor im data centre done ..next mount FRA to.wall panels
Drum roll please~!
Back in May I started converting the garage to be the new Sim hangar.
Eight looong months later, the "Beech House", and the Beech 1900D sim are ready for their maiden flight.
She's already been on a few test flights, still with a few control systems inop. Come this weekend, everything will FiNaLlY be fully operational.
After this, I'll be doing some work for a new Twitch stream.
LOL Hopefully it flies better than James' 737 Does that you flew the other day :)
Destroyed animals have been protected from the making of that video.
...that 737 flight was... interesting.
I pulled the fuel lever for #2... and things went south from there. I have a feeling that failures aren't modeled correctly in that particular flight model in James' sim. We lost absolutely everything on the right side of the aircraft and none of the cross-feeds worked.
However, we did have slats, but only on the left wing. That was a wild ride.
The maiden flight was a success. A few technical glitches, but overall everyone made it to their destination alive and in one piece!
The glitch was the OBS indicator was stuck on "Centered" making it impossible to fly towards a VOR. Had to reload the AC for some reason and everything worked out.
"One does not simply 'move' a flight simulator"!
All systems go!
this is how you move one 😉 don't forget police escorts etc
I have made a piece to add buttons to my actual yoke.
It only had elevator trim push buttons.
Now It has autopilot (alt hold and ap disconnect buttons), and push to talk.
![](https://i.imgur.com/4OCm6C7.jpg)
![](https://i.imgur.com/Wu12cq9.jpg)
And a video showing the results:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FajuGfmf_Yg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FajuGfmf_Yg)
Step by step..
Arturo.
That's a very professional looking job!
Okay Bernard...You have peaked my curiosity!
What exactly will all those displays be showing?
Is this a semi-commercial project?
Where is the Simulator?
Etc.?
Fred K
Looks to me like the a Perfect Setup... With ATC rooms and all LMFAO
for Fred its basically the SMS (surface management systems) and the internal enviroments to have a fully immersive universe
for Trev ... i would say at end of day costs inclusive of implimentation heavier side of X0k plus NSFFNIYM (not so *** funny now using your money) 😉 wish it was i would be done now
the sim its self is down stairs taking up 3000 sgft
It looks stunning no matter which way you put it. Some of us have had good fortune to be able to design such an amazing facility. When its all done I am sure the photos won't actually put into perspective the sheer magnitude of money, work or just the entire picture of how it all works, but its nice to look at what the haves have, while being happy being a have not. :)
Very nice.
i took post wrong way trev my bad all.golden suggest trip to TX my sim project is a tad different to most
I wanna play at Bernard's house! :-)
Bernard, I think many of us would love to see your setup. If I am ever in TX I will look you up. Just to see something like that would be awesome. In fact, there may be a training opportunity for me in Houston in the summer.
Trev
Got the Galley section a tad closer to completion.
Still have to add roof and puck lights as well as the curved side walls with real aircraft windows.
![](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/921/O0TEZ4.jpg)
Fun project.... :D
Tell me those are BEER TAPS?
omg :) Sweet :)
Can be hooked yes
water ...red (danger)
Blue...Scotch (Go4 it)
Amazon: SODIAL(R) Plastic Water Dispenser Machine Faucet :P
Very pristine job there Jack, that galley could easily be mistaken for the real thing. :)
Joe.
:D Thanks.... not finished
will report new goodies.
Packing the sim/House up and moving :(
This weeks temps are as follows:
Thu 44 (112 F)
Fri 44 (112 F)
Sat 37 (99 F)
Sun 38 (101 F)
Mon 39 (103 F)
Tue 40 (105 F)
Wed 42 (107 F)
Thu 43 (109 F)
Pray for me guys :o :o
Well I finally got my backside of the sofa, and had a good push on this TQ I've been working on for what seems like years.
What stared off like image 1 two weeks ago now looks like the other images.
All the top panels are 3D printed including the Flap Speedbrake and cutoff levers. That includes the knobs and most of the brackets that tie the main axle together.
Of course this is the colour of the PLA and raw Aluminum, so it still has to be painted. Also I still have to fit the parking brake and lever, I'm going to get that done shortly.
It's been quite a task but it all works quite nicely, with a Leo Bodnar card as the interface.
I did intend to motorise it but ended up just motorising the trim wheels. Those incidentally were from my mate Gwyn of Aerosim Solutions.
Anyway it's been ages since I posted any pics so I thought I'd bring things up to date. Now all I've got to do is build that shell. 8) 8)
Happy new year to everyone.
Joe
Lovely job Joe,
You guys make me envious with your skills.
Les
That Looks Awesome :)
Super hyper NEAT!
;)
projector screen in making for tower view radius is about 14 ft x10 vft.. did not do any planing just made it to look good to eye am hooing a single short throw will fill it benq 1080 st.. will be painted with screen goo
Love the binoculars :)
everything in details right bif view is set correctl 😉
Not so much a statement as is it a slight challenge regarding the current project:
What's going on in this image?
Looks like you having Gear Issues LOL
Well its been awhile since I posted anything. I had two weeks off and decided to give the sim a little attention. I had the glare shield measured up and extendd it to fit ovet the mcp. Im happy with how it turned out. Also thanks to Matt for the 8" monitors now on to the next job on the list.
Looking nice there Perry! Love seeing you and everyone else making some progress this time of year, with the holidays and all :D
My New Year is going great because of what you all post. And, I am very thankful everyday you guys are keeping this thread going. Tons of kudos too all!
Believe me when I say this is the first thing that I look at every morning...seriously 8)
Thanks again guys and girls,
John :idiot:
Today..touring the Canadian Rockies...
Quote from: jackpilot on January 09, 2019, 01:29:11 PM
Today..touring the Canadian Rockies...
Awesome, Jack!
Just like mine :angel:
almost done .. just lots of little things left to do
Wow Bernard...that is awesome!
Hoping to get pics up someday soon here. Finally have my MIP mounted into my sim.
Hey Bernard,
By the looks of your ATC area, I'd bet the ATC guys who do VATSIM events would envy you and love you to host an on site event someday. Those guys take everything realistic and serious; thus, them seeing and doing one with your setup would be awesome!
I am rather curious, are you going to get everything operational and will these stations shown be the departure/approach radar consoles? Also, are you going too do a Tower and Center controller station(s)?
Either way just keep going...
John
Hi Jason,
You know I (we) have really been waiting to see some pics of your setup. How long has it been since you came too my place, almost a year come March/April right? Likely, you'll be way ahead of me and I'll then envy you...lol!
John
@ john the vatsim boys more than welcome effect introduction naturally there is ssurface management area 😉 yiu just seeing 2 of 4 units
John,
Yes it's been a while, and unfortunately I have not made as much progress as I would have liked. Life gets in the way, but I have found an hour here and there to keep moving forward at it, just not as quickly as I had originally planned!
more new toys
;) Good 4u
Welp.. I've caught the streaming bug. Spent some time last night working on the audio configuration.
Also upgraded my X-Plane install from 11.25 to 11.30 and I have to say I'm impressed. We had some nasty weather move through Seattle yesterday so I flew a short flight from KSEA to KPAE.
It was the first time ever in the sim that I thought to myself "...should have stayed on the ground". The ominous clouds, the darkness with the occasional blue patch of sky was eerily spectacular.
X-Plane has never looked so good.
Quote from: RayS on January 23, 2019, 10:52:41 AM
Welp.. I've caught the streaming bug. Spent some time last night working on the audio configuration.
Also upgraded my X-Plane install from 11.25 to 11.30 and I have to say I'm impressed. We had some nasty weather move through Seattle yesterday so I flew a short flight from KSEA to KPAE.
It was the first time ever in the sim that I thought to myself "...should have stayed on the ground". The ominous clouds, the darkness with the occasional blue patch of sky was eerily spectacular.
X-Plane has never looked so good.
Ray, would you be up top throwing together a small primer or step-by-step on the streaming setup? I'm also interested in streaming
Warren
I have some initial diagrams for the audio portion I will post tonight.
-Bernard, how does this Wind Shear item work in connection with the simulator software? What does the blue box do? Such amazing things coming from you with your sim project...
-Warren, OMG you're so killing it with your projection system! Is that butt edging or blending? Can you post some pics of the behind the scenes for the projection screen mounting, along with pics of how you resolved the lack of spacing on the ceiling for your projectors?
-Ray, I agree with Warren, please post some instructions for your streaming setup, as well as make some videos with narration on everything you did. Can you post the link to your streaming channel, so we can start watching them; will you be doing both live and watch it later versions (I think that is automatic through the streaming host websites)?
Thanks guys for keeping this thread thriving with all your updates, I really appreciate it very much! :idiot:
John
It's late here... just put in a loooong day but here's my audio config.
Ray -
Geeez....God bless you on all that!
This only confirms why I have not put my toes in the water on live streaming. My dual-networked WideView sim arrangement is complicated enough as it is.
Fred K
Here's the link to my *New* streaming channel.
https://www.twitch.tv/the_beech_house (https://www.twitch.tv/the_beech_house)
Some of you may have already subscribed or followed, and unfortunately, that is now the "old" channel. I've been working with Twitch to allow the word "Beech" in my stream title. They finally saw the light and 'The Beech House" is almost ready for prime time.
As for a tutorial or how-to guide, that's a major endeavor. When I first started down the stream road I though it would be simple. It is anything but. There are SO many moving parts aside from just building content. Maybe someday I'll sit down and put something together but for now, I'm open to answering questions and helping out.
If you are so inclined, do drop by The Beech House and check it out. I don't have a schedule yet as it's not quite ready for prime time.
Thanks for the diagram, Ray. This will work just fine!
What exactly is your "intercom control card"? Is that the ruscool card?
Warren
The Intercom control card is a home-brew design that will allow a genuine COTS intercom, like the Sigtronics line, to operate effectively inside a sim environment. I'm nearly finished with the circuit card layout and it'll be going to the manufacturer before the end of the month.
I went down this road because I wanted all the nifty functionality that a professional intercom offers, like selective muting when the pilot or ATC is talking, yet still allow the aircrew to communicate. The problem is that a COTS intercom doesn't have things like joystick or keyboard events output. This card does that, as well as injects the 400-hz side tone heard in some airliners when the mic is keyed.
Any chance you can get a better price manufacturing in bulk? I've been crunching my brain trying to figure out how to do that. I've also got a real intercom
Quote from: blueskydriver on January 24, 2019, 07:43:10 AM
-Warren, OMG you're so killing it with your projection system! Is that butt edging or blending? Can you post some pics of the behind the scenes for the projection screen mounting, along with pics of how you resolved the lack of spacing on the ceiling for your projectors?
John
John,
It's butted edges. I haven't spent any real time fine tuning it yet. It looks pretty good but needs a little work.
I hate to say it but I ended up resorting to my normal method of mounting the projectors. The gantry is now just used to run the cables and a hose from the HVAC. It will get used in the future as it seems I have at least one more move in me...
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-Hey Warren, sometimes the old tried and true way beats our greatest inventions. Then again, a hammer to the ceiling...problem solved! Just kidding, hammer makes a big mess, get a roto-zip tool, cuts drywall really nice and has a dust collector...lol!
-Hey Ray, I agree with Warren, bulk order things and sell them. Put me down for one, and likely Fred will get one, among other members here. Streaming flights is the new thing and more builders will get up too speed faster with your ICC.
-Hey Bernard, the set design is looking great, are you sure that you're not planning to work with a movie production company? If not, you should be, as I bet they'd jump at using your setup!
-Hey Jason, I hear you about squeaking time in here and there. Karen and I just finished the ridiculously long front door project...two months! Sometime I will tell the whole story about it. Anyway, hang in there you'll find time, like we all do.
Keep posting guys and thank you. Other members' reading this, go ahead and jump in with some updates...
For my simulator, Karen and I got two new co-pilots...yep, we got two kittens (brother and sister). Last time we had cats (a brother and sister) it was 3-4 years ago and due to age/health issues we had to let them go in life. We had them for 17 years and they're seen in some of my older postings. Hopefully, these new ones will help build my simulator like the last two did. How do you think I got so far?!
Best Regards,
John
Something I have to share....
I spent the past several days upgrading my X-Plane to 11.31. Overall it was a success, with only a few residual issues to deal with.
Took care of those, then hopped in, lit the burner cans, and off for a short hop from KPAE to KPDX.
Lo and behold, right around 13,000 ft something weird started happening... The screen, my beautiful 3-projector, wraparound screen, slowly faded to black!
The aircraft was flyable, still in perfect condition, but no outside view.....
So, I pulled out the dummy cabin pressurization panel and went to work. Laminar Research removed the option to turn on/off redouts and blackouts.
Thank you, LR, for making my sim more realistic? I guess? :laugh:
Completed installation of FS FlightControl (networked) as the new IOS in my cockpit. The software can run with any P3D-based aircraft and has been custom tailored to support the Prosim flight model and cockpit suite of software.
Great package that is truly feature rich. The owner even logged into my system on the weekend to troubleshoot a problem. Turns out it was operator error.
Quote from: RayS on February 04, 2019, 02:19:59 PM
Something I have to share....
I spent the past several days upgrading my X-Plane to 11.31. Overall it was a success, with only a few residual issues to deal with.
Took care of those, then hopped in, lit the burner cans, and off for a short hop from KPAE to KPDX.
Lo and behold, right around 13,000 ft something weird started happening... The screen, my beautiful 3-projector, wraparound screen, slowly faded to black!
The aircraft was flyable, still in perfect condition, but no outside view.....
So, I pulled out the dummy cabin pressurization panel and went to work. Laminar Research removed the option to turn on/off redouts and blackouts.
Thank you, LR, for making my sim more realistic? I guess? :laugh:
HAHAHAH You better finish that panel fast! =)
Quote from: navymustang on February 04, 2019, 03:39:24 PM
Completed installation of FS FlightControl (networked) as the new IOS in my cockpit. The software can run with any P3D-based aircraft and has been custom tailored to support the Prosim flight model and cockpit suite of software.
Great package that is truly feature rich. The owner even logged into my system on the weekend to troubleshoot a problem. Turns out it was operator error.
Damn that's a nice looking software.. One of the best IOS's I have seen.. Nice
mounted servers yes has full.kvm that server laptop thingy 😁
Bernard, i am just curious. Is your sim private owned or do you have it as a business?
Nice serverrack!
private not sure which is most cost competitive a ssim or a divorce ..lol
Sim is cheaper, even yours, and you can continue to enjoy it!
naaaaaal i go with divorce .. and you still have to thank a sim lolol
I added 2 speakers and digital fuel gauges. Maybe one day i'll be done.................or not! :huh: ;D
Hey Rob,
A video update of your sim would be nice to watch...
John
sound 8000w 8 channels could do trick upgrading from 400 watts as butt kickers really need 1000w
I recon Bernard is a millionaire.... :o ??? ::)
:2cw:
Quote from: Joe Lavery on February 15, 2019, 03:56:32 AM
I recon Bernard is a millionaire.... :o ??? ::)
:2cw:
LOL Not to mention the money he spends on scotch alone while working on his project LMFAO....
there is only three important things in life ...fine cigars ...good scotch ... and cheap woman... or in other words expense of a sim and woman fairly much the same you want to drive a high end car you better be able to afford the maintence 😉
100% agreed! :D
before and after now paint
I can attest to Bernards phenomenal build. What he has accomplished so far as one person just blows the mind. I'm still struggling to finish my little rinky dink 73, lol.
Follow up on the Galley
Door coming next
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Newest member of the family :)
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More pics -https://imgur.com/a/tti2N6l (https://imgur.com/a/tti2N6l)
a welcomed addition i am sure
Oh Lord! Thats a nice NG throttle!!!
Who has a big case of throttle envy right now?
John raises his hand! :idiot:
added thrse a few more to get 😁
Yesterday I completed my first soup to nuts flight on VATSIM in a verrrrryyyy long time. That included a VA assigned flight from KTPA, planned in PFPX, loaded through TOPCAT, flown online, and logged at conclusion with my VA.
It even included a go around due to a runway incursion just prior to touchdown at KATL. When I signed into my VA to log the flight I noticed it was my first in SIX years.... how time flies.
Most impressive??? I've been dragging this little printer around the world for years... finally hooked it up and even printed loadsheets and routes right in the cockpit from my CDU!
Quote from: fsaviator on March 03, 2019, 07:37:51 AM
Yesterday I completed my first soup to nuts flight on VATSIM in a verrrrryyyy long time. That included a VA assigned flight from KTPA, planned in PFPX, loaded through TOPCAT, flown online, and logged at conclusion with my VA.
It even included a go around due to a runway incursion just prior to touchdown at KATL. When I signed into my VA to log the flight I noticed it was my first in SIX years.... how time flies.
Most impressive??? I've been dragging this little printer around the world for years... finally hooked it up and even printed loadsheets and routes right in the cockpit from my CDU!
That printer is pretty awesome!
Way to go Warren! Glad to hear you're a virtual pilot back in service!
Also, I agree with Skibo, that's a nice printer! Some years ago we all were going on about getting these type of printers, but I don't remember where people got them from. I think Jack has one like yours and maybe a couple of other builders.
Where did you buy yours? How does it connect and what did you do for setup? Please explain, if you wouldn't mind... :idiot:
John
John, it a Brightek E19 thermal printer. They're available in a number of places. I bought mine years ago on alibaba. They accept 10mm thick rolls of 80mm wide thermal paper. I modified mine to accept any size roll by cutting a slot in the bottom of the paper tray feeding the paper through. That allows me to use larger cash register receipt rolls that are widely available. I used a wire hanger to suspend the paper.
It is interfaced through USB and uses a virtual USB printer port in all versions of Windows.
Power is two-wire 5V or 12V depending on the model you buy. One note... witht he 12V one i have it needs at least 2.8A to work reliably.
I'm using ProsimUtils to interface it in Prosim737 v2. It functions as a regular printer though so you can use anything.
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Today I nuked my piece of crap Windows 10 instructor station. Apparently there was an update last night that blew out all my workarounds for networking to my Windows 7 sim systems.
I've fragged all the partitions, recoveries, the works and I'm installing the last copy of Windows 7 that I have. Only time will tell if I can register it or not. It's copy three of a three-license pack I had and used to be installed on an old PC I junked.
I'm so sick and tired of the Windows 10 networking bullshit.
Yes, I'm annoyed that everything was fine yesterday and today when I was going to spend the day flying nothing worked in regards to my instructor station/dispatch/etc, despite all the hacks to disable auto updating in Windows 10.
GRRRRRRR
get windows server 2016... problem resolved 😁
Quote from: bernard S on March 03, 2019, 02:37:57 PM
get windows server 2016... problem resolved 😁
tell me more.... I'll run Win7 until the 2020 drop dead date but that might be an option at that point
Although Microsoft has announced the end of life for Windows 7, it simply means that they will no longer support it with updates.
Personally I have updates switched off anyway.
However Windows 7 will not stop working after January 2020
Joe
Drawing my dilemma, with the Piper Comanche home cockpit:
Option A or Option B?
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I have all the gauges working with option A, engine monitor.
With all the functions the Vm1000c engine monitor has.
![](https://i.imgur.com/wbv1j34.jpg)
But in the last months I got all the hardware needed to build all the engine gauges analog.
I would spend more time, because option A is done, but time factor is not important. I have no date to finish it.
Need to take a decision to order the laser cut panel.
What would you prefer? :huh:
Arturo.
Quote from: _alioth_ on March 04, 2019, 01:53:02 AM
Drawing my dilemma, with the Piper Comanche home cockpit:
Option A or Option B?
![](https://i.imgur.com/04oeERE.jpg)
I have all the gauges working with option A, engine monitor.
With all the functions the Vm1000c engine monitor has.
![](https://i.imgur.com/wbv1j34.jpg)
But in the last months I got all the hardware needed to build all the engine gauges analog.
I would spend more time, because option A is done, but time factor is not important. I have no date to finish it.
Need to take a decision to order the laser cut panel.
What would you prefer? :huh:
Arturo.
Very cool Arturo
My .02 would be to go analog all the way!
Scott
Ditto....
It's your sim, you need to decide what you would like to look at.
As far as what I would prefer, in the real aircraft I'd take the digital one hands down.
In the sim, you've got a modern GPS so the digital one doesn't exactly look out of place there. Also the reset of your gauges have a modern look so I think your existing version, option A is the way to go.
A good day today! I got a full, almost error-free, flight from KATL to KDEN, online! I even got to use a lot of the features of ProsimUtils, vPilot, and GSX.
I did have an issue on climb-out from Atlanta... the gear wouldn't cycle up! Not sure why. I turned back towards the airport to come back and land, but as I was doing the landing checks, and cycled the gear again, it went up... strange. Anyway, headed back towards Denver but burned some reserve fuel in the process. Almost comfortable enough to start looking at pilotedge.
Anyone know how to integrate Teamspeak into ProsimUtils?
Warren
Today I recorded a full flight LESB-LEMH with the cockpit in its current state.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrzA05-N0Sw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrzA05-N0Sw)
The first flight I record. I am not good recording, editing, or flying :D But, ok, I wanted to show the cockpit in a full flight.
Arturo.
Hey Arturo,
AWESOME! Good to see you really getting things going with your build. Don't worry about looking extremely professional, as it's more important to just get started. Like other builders' simulators, things will get better as you go along, like real flying it's all about practice, practice, practice...
For other new members just starting out, Arturo shows you how to begin by just putting things together and learning for now, then worrying about perfecting the aesthetics later. :idiot:
John
Quote from: blueskydriver on March 17, 2019, 02:31:37 PM
Hey Arturo,
AWESOME! Good to see you really getting things going with your build. Don't worry about looking extremely professional, as it's more important to just get started. Like other builders' simulators, things will get better as you go along, like real flying it's all about practice, practice, practice...
For other new members just starting out, Arturo shows you how to begin by just putting things together and learning for now, then worrying about perfecting the aesthetics later. :idiot:
John
GREAT VIDEO!. Thanks for sharing.
Mike
Finally I have gone to analog route...
I am replacing my digital engine monitor with all needles :)
I have started with the engine cluster:
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It is now working.
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I have installed lights inside, that are dimmed with all the gauge ligths in the panel.
Arturo.
Hey Arturo, looks awesome!
For my sim I recently waxed the floor underneath with 7 coats of wax, and then moved my computer desk closer to the sim area. Now, I am looking at a projection screen frame from Northern Flight Sim...maybe?
John
made pigs fly lol
Those screens are beautiful..
I ordered 4 15" 4:3 IPS frameless HDMI screens for my planned Max build
Quote from: jskibo on May 01, 2019, 10:38:58 PM
I ordered 4 15" 4:3 IPS frameless HDMI screens for my planned Max build
make sure you have quality stab trim cutout switches for that sim, lol
I have made an ELT switch, for my Piper Comanche built.
It works as a Pause button:
-Push red button to pause.
-When simulator paused, led goes on. If you pause the simulator with the keyboard led goes on too.
-Go for another beer.
-Push black button to resume.
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Interfaced and working :)
Clever design ! :D
Nice work Arturo!
John
Hi
Not much building but designed my f18 today with the space I have available
should be fun
I've been quiet lately but still working on/flying the sim.
Designed 2 new interface circuits for X-Plane
Installed a ceiling exhaust fan in the hangar to pull out the hot air from 3 projectors and a full server rack. (I have AC in the building but it only recircs the air... it doesn't vent out the hotter air, which now vents into the attic.
Adding permanent doors to the sim.
Touched up some trim around the house (Getting ready for SimFestWest 2019)
I may treat myself to a flight tonight if I don't collapse from exhaustion later.
Hi,
nice to see your progress ... I added some new pictures to my homepage!
Enjoy the quick update www.B747-400.net (http://www.b747-400.net)
Cheers
Hans
Got the materials for my curved projector screen frame today. Took apart our old trampoline and got some 1 1/2 conduit from Menards. Tomorrow I'll be assembling the frame and taking measurements so I can order the screen from Carl's Place DIY Screens.
Also got the temporary mounts up for the three projectors. Just aquired my last darbee 1080GT last week for a heck of a deal.
Found and purchased a set of OEM chronometers, the OEM gear handle, and the FDAS panel for the future cockpit door.
Worked on wiring.
Kev
Hey Guys,
Glad to see you're getting things done during this time of the year, where everything pulls us away from building...like nice weather, vacations and such.
Even though things have been crazy for Karen and I; especially, with all the previous winter weather, now too much darn rain, we managed to get the projector screen stand made. Well, the local welding shop did it for us, using the specs from my previous homemade built stand. Got it home this past Friday.
Took just a few days. And, it's made to be taken a part into 3 sections. We just have to clean and paint it, then mount the screen. :idiot:
Nothing... :huh:
Any comment would seem frivolous, Bernard you are building a monster..... :2cw:
Hey Tony,
Care to share your 3d print file and where did you buy the small lcd screen, as well as how are you interfacing it; vga, hdmi, usb display plug or what method?
John
Regarding my sim project, I ordered and received some sheet metal from a local company that makes metal siding for sheds and metal residential roofs.
Basically, they're flat 29 gauge sheets without profiles/ridges and they're 12'x42", plus it's all black. Thus, I plan to rivet this to the inside curve of the projector screen stand, then attach the actual white screen after that. This will prevent light from going through the screen and bouncing back towards it causing reflective ghosting effects. Also, I will make a top of sorts to keep the light inwards towards the screen.
Lastly, I plan to order more metal like this to use for covering the back section of the sim and the exterior of sub-floor box.... :idiot:
John
Some updates from The Beech House:
Added 6 more feet to the screen this weekend, making it a full 220-degrees viewing area now. I've yet to re-align the projectors though. That will come tonight. It's tedious work.
Side doors are still a work in progress. Co-pilot side is finished and has that cool 1979 retro look to it including some teak-wood trim..
Carenado released v1.2 of the Beech 1900D a few days ago with (Drumroll please!) Landing/taxi lights that actually illuminate the ground! No more taxiing around blindly at night.
Permanently installed the Stream server. No more tripping over wires.
Installed a new GoPro 7 Black camera for streaming. A bit more resolution than the old GoPro 5 and better low-light sensitivity.
Avidyne PFD: Added ADF capability (Yes I use it sometimes because it's fun!). Bumped around some colors after ripping the hex color codes from the operations manual. Also added the ability to run the PFD as a Master or Remote unit. I use the remote for streaming so I don't have to mess with it during flight.
Finished my radio stack by fitting the last switch panel to my collection. Will tidy up the USB cables for GoFlight modules and leobodnar card by utilizing a powered usb hub. Next will be finishing behind the glareshield.
AlexJ C150
Likely this would go under the hanger section, but really it is for the simulator... Just got a new DIY Mr Cool 36,000 BTU Mini-Split AC/Heat unit yesterday and took it out of the box last night.
This is a big unit for sure and it's DIY, which saves a lot of money. $2,700 vs $7,000 and $12,000 quotes I got. Not debating the pros and cons of DIY vs Pro install, just want too list the prices. I will say that if anyone can build a simulator, then anyone can install one of these Mr Cool units.
Only issue of concern is mounting to steel interior walls. With ridges in the metal I have to figure out what to use behind the actual unit mounting brackets.
I will post a few pics later. In the mean time, if you're thinking about AC/Heat for your simulator and it's room, take a look at the Mr Cool units. Mine came from Home Depot here:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/MRCOOL-DIY-Enhanced-34-400-BTU-Ductless-Mini-Split-Air-Conditioner-and-Heat-Pump-208-230V-60Hz-DIY-36-HP-230AE/309068911?MERCH=REC-_-rv_mobileweb_rr-_-NA-_-309068911-_-N (https://www.homedepot.com/p/MRCOOL-DIY-Enhanced-34-400-BTU-Ductless-Mini-Split-Air-Conditioner-and-Heat-Pump-208-230V-60Hz-DIY-36-HP-230AE/309068911?MERCH=REC-_-rv_mobileweb_rr-_-NA-_-309068911-_-N)
Note: the ad says 34,400BTU, but the box says 36,000BTU.
John
Nothing much..
A nice flight over Toronto downtown... ;)
john emm me thinks this going to end up costing you more $$$ at end of day by time you add a pendulum and ducting etc i assume yiu yrying to cool building plus sim?
Hi Bernard,
This unit is really for the building, but since my sim is in it I was just making a tie-in for the forum posting. I should've posted this news in the hanger thread...lol!
Regarding the sim, I already have a smaller AC unit, server room style. Also, I have all the real piping that goes in between the aft cockpit bulkhead wall; kind of like a big Y/Curved shaped ducting pipe, as well as the ducting for the MIP. :idiot:
Kind Regards,
John
PS You know Bernard, it would be awesome if you started making YouTube videos regarding your sim. Things like this...AC units, ducting and piping would make a great tutorial, amongst all the other topics you're very knowledgable on. Maybe, you could enlist some family members too help out...
john come on down and knock yourself out ..
Quote from: blueskydriver on June 08, 2019, 09:41:46 AM
Hey Tony,
Care to share your 3d print file and where did you buy the small lcd screen, as well as how are you interfacing it; vga, hdmi, usb display plug or what method?
John
Hey John, sorry just saw your reply now. It's not ready for prime-time yet. Still some additional design/integration work to do and some weak areas in the 3D print I need to fix. Working on it when I have time. When It's ready I'll put the file out there.
The LCD I bought from Adafruit. Just about a perfect fit and includes the driver board. https://www.adafruit.com/product/912 (https://www.adafruit.com/product/912)
Bought an RCA to HDMI converter to make it easy to interface with the computer.
Results came out pretty good in the rough initial prints I did (attached).
Hi Tony,
Glad to see you progressing on this and if there is anything I or others on Cockpit Builders can help with, just give a shout out. There are many great folks here that love too assist fellow builders... :idiot:
John
Hey Arturo,
What perfecting timing! Your laser cut items look great and is leading me towards getting a laser cutter all the more. Karen and I have been talking about starting with a smaller one at first, like the K40. Here is a great video channel of someone doing an A10 Warthog and his laser cutter unit:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJq3cq9N6xYF0fAvTgpwoBg (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJq3cq9N6xYF0fAvTgpwoBg)
Please keep posting about yours... :idiot:
John
Paint work done!
Mounting all the gauges just to see how it looks like. I am very happy with the result!
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Arturo Moreno.
Hey Arturo,
Your work is jaw dropping amazing and looks just like the real thing! If you decide to start selling items please let us all know... :idiot:
John
Finished throttle handles & made a prototype "J-Rails" using 2 sets of Sparco rails for my Ipeco seats. It works quite well (longitudinal & lateral) and smoothly without any loose movements to any direction. Now waiting for finishing and painting. These will do the job until i can find pair of manual 767 seats with OEM rails.
Regards
Ari / B763
I haven't posted any progress for awhile, so here goes.
Decided that I was getting tired of constantly color-correcting the 3 Darby projectors so they now have a super-strong permanent mount, for proper edge-blending, to at least minimize the minor differences between projectors.
Using Calibration Pro from FlyElise, I wired up 3 cameras and went to work.
Unfortunately, the process made me want to take up truck-driving instead. The program kept crashing, not saving my work in the process (Tested on 3 separate computers.) When I was finally successful, the results weren't even passable. The edge-blending was not bad, but left a lot to be desired.
Cue the manual pixel-nudging again.
After 3 days of aligning everything manually I'm very happy with the results. Masking is good, just need to fine-tune the edge blending Fade/Slope/Gamma settings.
The pic shows a nicely aligned screen but it didn't come out the same way on the screen itself.
Perfect Ray, you are practicing for Worldflight lmfao. Nicely done.
Immersive Calibration Pro 4.01 is more crash-prone than ever - I mean, I used to get occasional crashes in previous versions, but it's ridiculous now. That said, I managed to largely eliminate crashes by making sure I run it as administrator and overriding the DPI scaling settings - though from your screenshot, it looks like you're on Win7? In which case, that's not an issue for you. But on Win10 and with a 4K screen, I found that telling Windows to override the scaling seemed to eliminate a lot of crashes. No idea why!
I got so sick of it crashing on save and taking my config data with it (it crashes after clearing the save file and before writing the new data, leaving your file empty!) that I wrote a small utility that will sit and watch the save file and back it up each time it changes, and auto-restore it if it gets wiped. That was a lifesaver doing my last calibration.
Multi-camera calibration is a real dark art and I've never gotten the blend area between projectors to line up properly, and post-warping can only do so much. Luckily my screen is small enough that I can do a single-camera calibration and the results there are much better, the problems are at the edges and are much easier to fix in post-warping. Personally I think the best results are achieved with an on-screen calibration vs the cameras but you need to have a very high density of markers on the screen and they have to be perfectly aligned, and you end up doing the edge blending yourself and that's one thing the camera calibration is very good at.
Lately I've been working on fixing the black-offset issues caused by projector overlap - the bright patch caused by double-ambient light where projectors overlap that edge-blending generally deals with for bright scenes, but which drive me crazy flying at night. Because I have a two-projector setup and my blend zone is right in the middle, ie directly in front of me, I simply can't ignore the bright stripe and so I stopped flying at night / late evening, basically any time after dusk. But I found a blog post on the Fly Elise web site where they talk about using shutters to fix the problem - this is what professional systems do, I believe - which means placing a physical shutter over part of the lens of your projectors to block the light falling into each half of the blended area from each projector. The idea being you get as close to blocking all the overlapped light as you can - and then edge-blending takes care of the rest.
I played about with some simple shutters made of a stiff black carbon-fibre material just blu-tacked on the front of the projectors and actually, you get can pretty good results. I still have a slightly discernible bright stripe but it's small, blurred out rather than sharp, and it could easily be dismissed as just moonlight :-) So I can fly at night again. The downside is that it's slightly upset the daytime blend and there's a slightly visible bright stripe in the day, whereas before my daytime blend was pretty much perfect. I suppose if I could make a mechanism to easily mount and dismount the shutters I could just put them up when night-flying... but for now I'm pretty happy. (Pictures attached of night view with the bright stripe, after the shutter fix, and the daytime view with the shutters in place.)
NH
(Long-time lurker, first-time poster!)
Added a cup holder out of a used Boeing. I had to put epoxy in the bottom to level things out since it came out of a flightdeck where the cup holder was at an angle and not flat like I have it.
Quote from: Neil Hewitt on September 18, 2019, 05:53:26 PM
(Long-time lurker, first-time poster!)
Welcome to the Group!
Trev
Quote from: Neil Hewitt on September 18, 2019, 05:53:26 PM
I played about with some simple shutters made of a stiff black carbon-fibre material
I ended up doing a full manual align. I wasn't happy that if I used ICP, I couldn't make corrections on-screen and instead had to go back to ICP.
So, full manual alignment with lasers, and am now learning that blending is indeed a black art. I saw that article on using physical baffles and I do get those faint bands at night. Will have to try that. Most of my flying is at dusk/night so that will come in handy.
A little more work on the dynamic control loading. We fabricated the levers for the motors and pivots. Here is the rudder (yaw) axis lever and rod.
Here is the picture because the video doesn't work.
I will upload to YT
https://youtu.be/cK1FKr_ANDc
The video on YouTube
Craig
Working on the 737CL>NG landing gear handle conversion...
I've been 'Cold and Dark' for awhile but I've been up to stuff :)
1. Brand new sim computer
2. Retired old sim computer, now living out it's days as an over-powered Streaming system.
3. Built new mounts for the projectors so they are solid and immobile,
4. Re-Aligned projectors
5. Learned the black art of edge-blending
6. Rebuilt Stream for The Beech House. Now able to stream ForeFlight on iPad
7. And most importantly, bought airline tickets for WorldFlight 2019. :laugh:
Giving the sim another test run tonight before I start streaming. Need to make some recordings for the new stream intro video and see how that works out.
Now that the website stuff is up to date.
Quote from: Trevor Hale on September 30, 2019, 10:47:12 AMGiving the sim another test run tonight before I start streaming. Need to make some recordings for the new stream intro video and see how that works out.
Now that the website stuff is up to date.
Slacker :}
Quote from: jskibo on September 30, 2019, 01:51:05 PMQuote from: Trevor Hale on September 30, 2019, 10:47:12 AMGiving the sim another test run tonight before I start streaming. Need to make some recordings for the new stream intro video and see how that works out.
Now that the website stuff is up to date.
Slacker :}
I couldn't agree more
The Brunnar Force Feedback DIY kit arrived last week and am starting to piece it together. Still trying to figure out the cooling. These cards can draw 6 amps each which means they generate a lot of heat.
The included/recommended heat sinks I don't think are up to the task so working on some solutions.
Sold my BenQ HT2150ST's and bought Optoma GT1080 Darbees
Quote from: RayS on October 07, 2019, 09:36:03 PMThe Brunnar Force Feedback DIY kit arrived last week and am starting to piece it together. Still trying to figure out the cooling. These cards can draw 6 amps each which means they generate a lot of heat.
The included/recommended heat sinks I don't think are up to the task so working on some solutions.
Just keep eating the Goldfish... The cheesiness in the crackers help you think.
Quote from: RayS on October 07, 2019, 09:36:03 PMThe Brunnar Force Feedback DIY kit arrived last week and am starting to piece it together. Still trying to figure out the cooling. These cards can draw 6 amps each which means they generate a lot of heat.
The included/recommended heat sinks I don't think are up to the task so working on some solutions.
Hey Ray,
I imagine it's the motors that are dissipating the 6A, not the board itself.
QuoteI imagine it's the motors that are dissipating the 6A, not the board itself.
Possibly, but even without any load on the cards, a few of those heat sinks are too hot to touch.
Ray,
Read here it may help. It was quite happy running like this for years. Trouble free.
http://bffsimulation.com/BLDRV3/Set-Up%20and%20Commissioning%20BLDRV3.pdf
Paragraph 3.
That's not to say more heat sinking isn't a good thing.
Les
Hey Ray,
Glad to see you got this item, but by looking at it, the enclosure box layout is not helping you at all.
First, the power supply (ps) is right next to the box, producing ambient heat in the same areas as the heat sinks. And, with those black horizontal bars (are they fans) next to heat sinks themselves, the hot air is not flowing away.
Next, you have an enclosure with no lid, yet it has a fan on one end that looks like it's setup to be a closed box. If it does have a lid, it should be on and at the other end of the box there should be intake vents to allow air flow into it.
Lastly, if I were you, I would move the PS away, get a better box that has some serious air flow capabilities, if possible change the heat sinks to water cooler type heat sinks (even if they don't sit flat, they'll work better), and place the entire box at the lowest level in the room (on the floor would be cooler and better).
John
PS. Looking forward to future videos from you on showing how this all works...
Agreed with everything said here.
This is only for bench testing. The end result will have everything segregated/isolated & neatly buttoned up... This layout is definitely not the final configuration. The airflow will consist of 2 fans in a push/pull configuration and the box will be fully sealed, minus the openings for the fans.
I'm still working out the heat sink layout and type.
It's a work in progress.
Hey Everyone,
Thank all of you for keeping this thread going, and even though I haven't commented or replied on what everyone is doing lately, I do read everything posted here. It truly keeps me going everyday and I wish there was a way to tell you this in person. Hopefully, I will get a chance someday...
Thanks again and please keep posting. 😀
John
Ordered 24ft of Flex Gray screen today from Carl's Place
Building the pilot-side carriage for the new force-feedback system.
Planning my next project to ago along with my upgrade. Anyone have any experience getting an OEM sperry RMI to work with a teensy or arduino?
I want minimal extra crap to get it running
Been a while since I've posted. Making a custom frame for my overhead so it'll fit my cockpit. Using aluminum which is fun and frustrating to work with. Hope to start wiring this weekend.
Do you want too buy a real Forward Overhead frame?
John
Not sure it would fit the cockpit? When I did a measurement my panels from flightsimulatorparts.com seem to be a bit bigger than OEM...wish I had known that before I bought them!
Ordered the remaining Light Plates and Backing plates for the left side console in the F16 Sim.
Ordered the 737 MAX EFIS for CPT and FO.
Picked up a bunch of Pokeys cards from Warren for the F16 Sim
Got confirmation my F16 Forward and Aft Glare Shields will ship this month
Quote from: jmlohrenz on November 05, 2019, 09:40:52 AMBeen a while since I've posted. Making a custom frame for my overhead so it'll fit my cockpit. Using aluminum which is fun and frustrating to work with. Hope to start wiring this weekend.
Nice overhead. How did you get the panels attached to frame?
Quote from: Goodenough on November 07, 2019, 01:42:27 PMQuote from: jmlohrenz on November 05, 2019, 09:40:52 AMBeen a while since I've posted. Making a custom frame for my overhead so it'll fit my cockpit. Using aluminum which is fun and frustrating to work with. Hope to start wiring this weekend.
Nice overhead. How did you get the panels attached to frame?
Small screws. Not the dzus kind. The frame is a bunch of aluminum angle pieces and a few flats. It is nice and light but a bit too flexible. Working on studying it up now. Will all be wired to a fds interface card.
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I have found this to be the case with thin metal as well. It requires another thicker metal frame or wood to prevent sagging . Your project looks great.
Where is everyone? Tumble Weeds rolling around the site the last few days...lol!
How about some updates?
For myself, I'm contemplating a new computer system, something that could run MSFS 2020 whenever it comes out, as well as Adobe software and Da Vinci Resolve.
However, I've never once went this direction. All my other sim computers' were high-end paperweights and only used for FSX. Nothing like dumping $3k-$5k in a box and only use it for one thing.
Thus, that's my question of the week...have you ever setup your system for other tasks, and if so, what methods did you employ...like dual boot, dual SSD and HDD for separate things such as all the flight sim on one set and video editing (or whatever) on a second set?
All ideas will be appreciated, along with keeping this thread going...
John
Quote from: blueskydriver on November 20, 2019, 05:44:02 PMthat's my question of the week...have you ever setup your system for other tasks, and if so, what methods did you employ...like dual boot, dual SSD and HDD for separate things such as all the flight sim on one set and video editing (or whatever) on a second set?
Single boot for me.
One SDD (256...512gb) for windows and programs.
Second SSD (1tb) just for simulator and data
HDD for back ups, music, films etc..
Today I am installing post lights.
copilot side done:
![](https://i.imgur.com/H4ZjU4R.jpg)
working on pilot side:
![](https://i.imgur.com/ndPWff2.jpg)
Next target: glare shield.
Very nice setup there, are those home made gauges or Simkits, or perhaps Flight Illusion?
Looks good whatever.
Some rear shots would be interesting, we all like to see how it's done.
Joe.
Be interested in how you made your post lights. Im just 3d printing my ones, your one may be better.
Such amazing work! Your attention to detail is amazing, as well as your willingness to help your fellow builders...thank you for posting.
John
Hi all. I've been away from building for around six years due to a lack of space and other things. Great to come back here and see what's new! I've been lucky to get my sim room now and I've started to unbox and install my old bits and pieces. Here's the first power-up of my 737 Fire Panel, hell it didn't go on fire! I have a problem with one of those rotary encoders not playing ball but that's part of the fun :)
Hi Dez,
Yes, it has been a good while since your first post and let me properly welcome you to Cockpitbuilders website.
Welcome to CockpitBuilders!!!
You've come to a great place for building your simulator....
Your Fire Control Panel looks great, is that OpenCockpits or self-made? Will you please post a pic of the panel from the front to show the engraving and such?
Again, welcome to the family 😁
John
Thanks for the welcome again John! Yes, the engraved top panels were from OpenCockpits. The fire handles (except for the red engraved lenses) were home made, as were the back plates and all the wiring looms. Switches and Korry style indicators from OC, as I recall!
Looks great Dez, keep going and post lots of pics...they motivate all of us!
John
A bit of a side project for me...
Built an ADS-B receiver using a Raspberry Pi and a USB dongle from FlightAware.
This grants me a free Enterprise account on FlightAware.com. (Not even sure how that benefits me but's it's fun to do...)
Now the wife can complain about the antenna on the garage roof. :-)
Nice Ray!
I have had one for several years, its great to log in and see your own tracker being used as the FlightAware source!
https://flightaware.com/adsb/stats/user/VAU204 (https://flightaware.com/adsb/stats/user/VAU204)
Now we have our own place i will put up an outdoor antenna, its on the to-do list
Thats pretty Awesome... Now I want one LOL.
Trev,
You just need one of these:
FlightAware Pro Stick Plus FA-PROSTICKPLUS-1 ADS-B USB Receiver with Built-in Filter
~$19
And:
Dual Band 978MHz 1090MHz 5dBi Magnetic Base SMA Male MCX Antenna for Aviation
~$10
And:
Raspberry Pi 3 Model B Board (Although I think any flavor will do)
~$39
It has pretty good range. I was surprised to see traffic all over the greater Pacific Northwest area.
You may be able to get the whole thing for free if you qualify (Meaning there's hardly anyone else in your area piping ADS-B data to Flightaware.)
https://flightaware.com/adsb/flightfeeder/ (https://flightaware.com/adsb/flightfeeder/)
Thanks Ray, I applied for the free equipment, fingers crossed!
In the meantime, how about you make a video on the subject?
John
Interesting you mention video as a training tool.
Personally, I don't learn via video if it's a highly-complex task. If it's the only method available, I end up pausing it every few seconds to digest the material.
In these situations, I usually just go off a written document.
Hey Ray,
Okay, a write up tutorial would be just as good...lol...anything too make it quicker for all of us to get up to speed with you 😁 You're way ahead of us!
John
Quote from: RayS on November 26, 2019, 12:30:23 PMTrev,
You just need one of these:
FlightAware Pro Stick Plus FA-PROSTICKPLUS-1 ADS-B USB Receiver with Built-in Filter
~$19
And:
Dual Band 978MHz 1090MHz 5dBi Magnetic Base SMA Male MCX Antenna for Aviation
~$10
And:
Raspberry Pi 3 Model B Board (Although I think any flavor will do)
~$39
It has pretty good range. I was surprised to see traffic all over the greater Pacific Northwest area.
You may be able to get the whole thing for free if you qualify (Meaning there's hardly anyone else in your area piping ADS-B data to Flightaware.)
https://flightaware.com/adsb/flightfeeder/ (https://flightaware.com/adsb/flightfeeder/)
Makes Perfect Sense to me. I will look into it. Thanks Ray I may qualify, Nobody else in my area has one. :)
For those interested, here is the link for FlightAware Coverage Map:
https://flightaware.com/adsb/coverage
It's a movable map, move and/or zoom to find your area, and then look at the map legend to see what the dots mean....
John
Quote from: Trevor Hale on November 27, 2019, 07:30:31 AMQuote from: RayS on November 26, 2019, 12:30:23 PMTrev,
You just need one of these:
FlightAware Pro Stick Plus FA-PROSTICKPLUS-1 ADS-B USB Receiver with Built-in Filter
~$19
And:
Dual Band 978MHz 1090MHz 5dBi Magnetic Base SMA Male MCX Antenna for Aviation
~$10
And:
Raspberry Pi 3 Model B Board (Although I think any flavor will do)
~$39
It has pretty good range. I was surprised to see traffic all over the greater Pacific Northwest area.
You may be able to get the whole thing for free if you qualify (Meaning there's hardly anyone else in your area piping ADS-B data to Flightaware.)
https://flightaware.com/adsb/flightfeeder/ (https://flightaware.com/adsb/flightfeeder/)
Makes Perfect Sense to me. I will look into it. Thanks Ray I may qualify, Nobody else in my area has one. :)
There is also no other Humans where you live.......
Quote from: jskibo on November 27, 2019, 12:21:46 PMQuote from: Trevor Hale on November 27, 2019, 07:30:31 AMQuote from: RayS on November 26, 2019, 12:30:23 PMTrev,
You just need one of these:
FlightAware Pro Stick Plus FA-PROSTICKPLUS-1 ADS-B USB Receiver with Built-in Filter
~$19
And:
Dual Band 978MHz 1090MHz 5dBi Magnetic Base SMA Male MCX Antenna for Aviation
~$10
And:
Raspberry Pi 3 Model B Board (Although I think any flavor will do)
~$39
It has pretty good range. I was surprised to see traffic all over the greater Pacific Northwest area.
You may be able to get the whole thing for free if you qualify (Meaning there's hardly anyone else in your area piping ADS-B data to Flightaware.)
https://flightaware.com/adsb/flightfeeder/ (https://flightaware.com/adsb/flightfeeder/)
Makes Perfect Sense to me. I will look into it. Thanks Ray I may qualify, Nobody else in my area has one. :)
There is also no other Humans where you live.......
True but when Santa and NATO flies over my igloo. They may want to track the ADS-B signal
Not really sim-related but I modified my Raspberry Pii ADS-B receiver to use an on-board 320x240 TFT LCD display.
Done, at the risk of bricking the entire install (I got lucky?). Have to say I'm happy with the results.
I have a high-gain 1090Mhz antenna on order. Should be here in the next few days...
That's pretty Cool Ray, Looks like Flightaware is going to send me one.. Have to make a bracket for the antenna though.. Cold to be mounting it in the winter, but we are going to try LOL
Trev
Just installed a new high(er) gain antenna and picking up 3x the traffic I used to get.
It's not really sim related but imagine tapping into this data and creating localized real-time traffic in the sim!
Next Step: Get that antenna HIGHER!
Sweet Ray,
I was just notified Flightaware has approved me for a Free Piaware, they will ship it soon. Like Skibo said, Probably because I live so far from civilization, they need coverage LMFAO.
Trev
Quote from: Trevor Hale on December 05, 2019, 04:18:41 AMSweet Ray,
I was just notified Flightaware has approved me for a Free Piaware, they will ship it soon. Like Skibo said, Probably because I live so far from civilization, they need coverage LMFAO.
Trev
Awesome!
Have you figured a way to mount the antenna on your igloo yet? Or just going with the Sled Dog house mounting option?
Quote from: jskibo on December 05, 2019, 04:25:17 AMAwesome!
Have you figured a way to mount the antenna on your igloo yet? Or just going with the Sled Dog house mounting option?
Actually, I have found a way to mold an ICE Bracket, It should hold it. I pack snow around it to keep it level and pee on it. This then freezes and makes a good mounting option.
Thanks for asking.
Trev
Quote from: Trevor Hale on December 05, 2019, 08:04:52 AMQuote from: jskibo on December 05, 2019, 04:25:17 AMAwesome!
Have you figured a way to mount the antenna on your igloo yet? Or just going with the Sled Dog house mounting option?
Actually, I have found a way to mold an ICE Bracket, It should hold it. I pack snow around it to keep it level and pee on it. This then freezes and makes a good mounting option.
Thanks for asking.
Trev
That's an awesome solution Cheif Yellow Snow of the North :)
And I thought I was weird...LOL!
Whilst the sim was down I made an ADS-B antenna, copying from this Youtube vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkUYdCPFXXs
I hooked it up to an inexpensive NESDR mini ADS-B dongle and Dump-1090 software. Once it was installed in the attic, I got over 150 miles coverage and I'm roughly at sea level.
A recommended diversion for any sim builder, if the flying has to cease for any reason!
Quote from: Jet-A1 on December 05, 2019, 01:38:36 PMA recommended diversion for any sim builder, if the flying has to cease for any reason!
It's definitely a diversion. I used to DX back when I was a kid and would pick up stations from around the world. ADS-Bing is sort of like that.
As for Trev mounting the antenna, I imagine all he needs to do is plant a shovel in the nearest snowdrift and zip-tie it....
Today I had a go at an A320 FCU push-pull switch. I don't have an A320 sim, nor do I know anyone that's building one, but I thought it would be interesting.
There are two 3D-printed parts. A frame, and a tube with a flange. Then a rotary pulse switch (or rotary encoder) and two microswitches.
Many rotary switches have the 'plum' style shaft, which has serrations around the outside and a slot down the middle. My tube part has a web that goes across the centre inside, which mates with the slot in the switch shaft. The tube is not a tight fit on the shaft, so is free to slide, but when the tube is rotated the web drives the slot which turns the switch. The other end of the tube has a 6mm bore to accept the shaft from the front panel knob.
The frame has two holes at either end. One is a 6mm hole which supports the shaft through to the front panel. The other is a 7mm hole which accepts the switch body, which is held in place with a nut.
The bottom of the frame has two pairs of screw holes to hold two microswitches in place. I am using subminiature microswitches with curved-end actuators. The frame holds the switches such that the actuators touch each side of the flange.
When you pull on the front panel knob the flange is pulled to actuate one microswitch. When you push, the flange pushes the actuator onto the other microswitch. The spring in the switch pushes the flange back to the rest position. Stronger springs could easily be installed.
Attached is a picture of the assembled switch, and a 3D cutaway render of the parts.
Obviously it's missing a threaded boss to attach it to the panel, but this is purely an exercise. The assembly itself works.
![IMG_20191210_154911_HDR[1].jpg IMG_20191210_154911_HDR[1].jpg](https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=cf48b168badf584e472e3dfee99c882c&action=dlattach;attach=19216)
That's a great piece of engineering at that size. I use the Collins MCP on the 737, but after a glance at the A320 FCU, it certainly looks more complex with regards to both those altitude push/rotate encoders and their operation.
The re-build continues! I've spent some time spray painting a Saitek quadrant to the 737 RAL colour and I recently bought some add-on handles from Cockpitsimparts here in the UK. The handles are reasonably well made and I'd say they were decent value for money at around £60GBP, for the Throttle/Flap/Speedbrake kit. They came with some extras thrown in, like the velcro channels, micro switches and stickers. The only problem for me is with a single Saitek quad and this version of the handles, I needed to sacrifice the Speedbrake arm. Though overall I'm happy with the result.
Quote from: Jet-A1 on December 10, 2019, 12:02:26 PMThat's a great piece of engineering at that size. I use the Collins MCP on the 737, but after a glance at the A320 FCU, it certainly looks more complex with regards to both those altitude push/rotate encoders and their operation.
Thanks. It's an experiment, and it turned out to be not that complicated. Besides, no-one will see what's behind the panel.
I have accumulated a bunch of different rotary and push switches, and with a 3D printer* it's easy to build something that holds the parts together in a particular orientation.
I'm also looking at the issue of displays and switches. My favourite chip at the moment is the HT16K33 display interface. I think it's perfect for most cockpit applications, since the process essentially boils down to 'light up some LEDs and look at some switches'. I'm also playing with ALPS pulse switches. They are a similar size to rotary encoders, but they don't need any decoding software or hardware. It's just a pair of switches inside a housing. Turn clockwise, one switch clicks on and off repeatedly. Turn anticlockwise, the other switch clicks.
The HT16K33 does not have a rotary encoder interface, but it can easily handle a simple switch that is 'pressed' repeatedly.
I see a lot of projects using the HT16K33 to drive LEDs, but not using the switch input capability. I'd like to change that. It seems like an ideal solution.
* 3D printer currently broken. Waiting for parts.
Finally ordered the 737 MAX MIP and Glare.
At this rate I might finish before Trevor :)
Relax...still grounded! :D
Quote from: jskibo on December 10, 2019, 02:37:46 PMFinally ordered the 737 MAX MIP and Glare.
At this rate I might finish before Trevor :)
You will totally make it before me. I guarantee it. :)
Building the back walls. This makes such a difference.You cannot view this attachment.
WOW! You guys are totally going crazy and getting things done!
It's amazing what you new members are bringing to the table. Definitely will look into some of these new technics; especially, the HT16K33...sounds very interesting.
On a side note, could you guys put your first name at the end of your postings? I want too be very respectful when answering or replying.
Hey Jet-A1, could you add a Speed Brake lever to the side of the Saitek, using a a bolt on device with the handle and a rotary or string pot? If you have a 3D printer you likely could make something; check Thingiverse for this.
Finally, to everyone, I cannot thank you enough for continuing to post in this thread! Believe me when I say that this thread, as well as the entire Cockpit Builders site, is a major motivator to keep me going everyday. Without you guys and this website, I'd be lost in life...
Really do mean that!
John
Hi blueskydriver,
Here's the first project that will bring everything together, I hope. Naturally the 3D render looks fabulous, but it's not real.
Anyway, it's a Collins CTL-22 / 32 / 62 / 92 control head.
An HT16K33 will handle the 7-segment LEDs and the switches, including the ALPS pulse switches which don't need any decoding.
The body is 3D printed, with a single piece of cut acrylic (for the orange window), and I'm experimenting with 3D printed diffusers for the LED backlighting.
The concentric frequency knobs will use an offset gear system (3D printed).
Everything will be published on my GitLab site for anyone to download and print, but I want to make sure it looks nice first. Doesn't have to work. :)
The HT16K33 connects to a host via I2C, so I'll write some Python code to handle button presses and LED updates. Then it should be straightforward to interface to any simulator. This, too, is an experiment as I don't know how busy the bus is going to get with real data passing to and from a real flight simulator* in operation.
I need to build six of them for the whole set, but I'll get one going first.
Andrew
* oxymoron of the day
Thanks John,
Yes I did consider some form of home made speedbrake switch and potentiometer set up, though I don't have access to a 3D printer at the moment. That probably will be looked at when I enter the world of Arduino and I/O's for the sim. I have an electrical background but I'm really starting at base 1 with that kind of stuff.
Andrew that's impressive 3D modelling, though I'll admit I had to Google what a Collins CTL-22 was! The OpenScad package looks good, is it along the same 3D CAD lines as Sketchup? Funny you should mention the HT16K33 and the 7-segment displays, that's exactly the problem I'm having with a Jetmax MCP at the moment. Blank 7-segment displays! I'm told FDS are on it.
Anyway, best!
Derek
Quote from: Jet-A1 on December 13, 2019, 06:30:48 AMThanks John,
Yes I did consider some form of home made speedbrake switch and potentiometer set up, though I don't have access to a 3D printer at the moment. That probably will be looked at when I enter the world of Arduino and I/O's for the sim. I have an electrical background but I'm really starting at base 1 with that kind of stuff.
Andrew that's impressive 3D modelling, though I'll admit I had to Google what a Collins CTL-22 was! The OpenScad package looks good, is it along the same 3D CAD lines as Sketchup? Funny you should mention the HT16K33 and the 7-segment displays, that's exactly the problem I'm having with a Jetmax MCP at the moment. Blank 7-segment displays! I'm told FDS are on it.
Anyway, best!
Derek
Thanks Derek.
OpenSCAD is a parametric 3D modelling package. Fundamentally you write code to build an object. It's not as hard as it sounds. There are two key strengths. First, the code can be parametric, i.e. you can name a parameter and change its value, then as long as you design your model to correctly handle that parameter (particularly if a single parameter affects multiple aspects of the model) then you can change the parameter and make a new model. Although 'writing code' might seem intimidating it's actually quite refreshing to be able to look at the text of the source and see- there is the line that draws this cube, there is the line that opens this hole to make a boss.
The second strength is that because it is essentially code you can make another program produce an object. That is to say you could have a program read some data file, and then build an object whose dimensions or properties were based on the data file.
Anyway, OpenSCAD outputs .stl files that can be processed by a slicer and printed. The software is free and unencumbered.
Yesterday I reviewed the objects I have designed for the Collins CTL series. Today I printed and test-assembled the parts. Some issues cropped up, but I think this will be a model that anyone could print and assemble. Wiring will be a bit fiddly, but once I have one working I'll know if it's worth it. The diffuser experiment is working: instead of specifying cut acrylic for the diffuser I am printing a 3mm thick 'slab' of PLA that will drop into the rebate of the body.
Andrew
I reviewed the dimensions of the knobs and decided to print them using my super-awesome matt-black PLA filament. They came out really nice. Now I am re-printing the body in the same filament. That'll take a while...
Here is the front view of the hardware. A couple of things are fake, but things are where they should be, and the right size and shape. The white rings around the rotary knobs are a bit poor because I daubed correction fluid on there instead of paint. Never mind, you get the idea.
I need to drill a hole through a rotary switch to allow the drive shaft for the volume control to go through. I probably won't wire it up, but it would work. The screw just below that is fake. The light sensor is for looks, again, it would work, but won't be wired up. The concentric frequency knobs work, the three pushbuttons work, the toggle switch works and the on/off switch works. By "works" I mean "will work when hooked up to an interface board".
Actually, I'm not happy with the knobs. Especially the left side ones. I'll re-do them later.
Anyone know anyone with a real set of these instruments? :)
Finally the last component arrived- 3P4T rotary switch. This will be the on/off/mode selector.
I drilled out the centre, so that I can pass a 3mm acrylic rod through it. This couples the volume knob to the volume pot, which is behind the selector switch.
I still have to re-do the selector knob and volume knob, but all the parts are present, and the switch mechanisms work. The next step is to wire everything up to the HT16K33 PCB and then write a bit of test software.
I haven't made a PCB for this because the switches etc. are peppered throughout the device. I could make a partial PCB, for the LEDs, for instance, but I'll probably stick to point-to-point wiring. I'm not making a production line for these- I only have to make six. And so does anyone else who wants a set.
Ok, well the first photo indicates that I might indeed need to make a PCB. That's the top LED display and the 5 additional indicator LEDs.
The second one shows that the LEDs I've done all light up. :)
I'll do the rest and use this for experiments and development, but it's not really repeatable for the casual hobbyist. :(
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WOW, that looks awesome!
I Guess there should have been a K in there somewhere Trev?
Otherwise that's not a very nice comment to make.... :D 8) :o :laugh:
Joe,
LOL My bad Joe :)
Hi all,
I've been busy over the holidays making some more stuff for my sim.
A wet compass designed to work natively with arduino via MobiFlight, or should work fine with OC cards. It uses a stepper motor and is backlit. The stepper driver card is obviously included.
I've also made a dummy Rudder Pedal adjuster and a dummy EVAC panel, which I guess could be pressed into service if need be.
The Dzus strips were simply made to go each side of my new FDS CDUs. I couldn't get any in the UK, so I drew them up in CAD and 3D printed them. Where there's a will, there's a way.
Anyone interested in these bits drop me a PM, (not the Dzus they are not viable). They are all made from Acrylic, not metal, (other than the screws, motor etc).
Joe.
Very nice work. The rudder adjuster should be of interest to many on the site.
Hey Joe,
Sent you back a reply PM, put me down for a set of the rudder pedal adjusters and the compass please...
John
Quote from: Joe Lavery on January 04, 2020, 07:35:29 AMHi all,
I've been busy over the holidays making some more stuff for my sim.
A wet compass designed to work natively with arduino via MobiFlight, or should work fine with OC cards. It uses a stepper motor and is backlit. The stepper driver card is obviously included.
I've also made a dummy Rudder Pedal adjuster and a dummy EVAC panel, which I guess could be pressed into service if need be.
The Dzus strips were simply made to go each side of my new FDS CDUs. I couldn't get any in the UK, so I drew them up in CAD and 3D printed them. Where there's a will, there's a way.
Anyone interested in these bits drop me a PM, (not the Dzus they are not viable). They are all made from Acrylic, not metal, (other than the screws, motor etc).
Joe.
I have made Dzus strips with 10mm aluminium angle tapped with M4 threads spaced 3/8" (9.525mm) apart. I actually didn't drill and tap them all, but I marked them all and drilled only the ones that line up with the panels I wanted to install.
I used M4 cheese-head screws in 3D-printed collars to look like Dzus fasteners. Other builders might choose an Imperial measurement.
I have also done a 3D printed compass, but it's a different style. It's based on a WL1001KCA1 from SIRS Navigation.
I was driving it with a 28byj-48 stepper motor in the bulkhead above, but I am going to change that to an X27-168 or similar which I can put inside the body of the compass (it's tiny!).
Scored this beauty off eBay yesterday. A great compliment to my Garmin MX-20 moving map. Hope to be reverse-engineering this bad boy soon.
The LCD video is just progress I'm making on the CANBUS project for eventually converting the sim back to MSFS2020.
Quote from: ame on January 06, 2020, 10:07:07 PMI have also done a 3D printed compass, but it's a different style. It's based on a WL1001KCA1 from SIRS Navigation.
I was driving it with a 28byj-48 stepper motor in the bulkhead above, but I am going to change that to an X27-168 or similar which I can put inside the body of the compass (it's tiny!).
![compass.png compass.png](https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=cf48b168badf584e472e3dfee99c882c&action=dlattach;attach=19447)
I have done the same thing with a real compass but i replaced the 28BYJ-48 with a DF Robot FIT-0503 stepper. Its tiny, and with the gearing, its 2000 steps per revolution.
Should easily fit inside your compass.
Hi there,
I couldn't get the 28byj-48 to work reliably. I wasn't sure if it was missing steps, or if I hadn't counted them properly (there are a couple of variants around with slightly different steps-per-revolution).
Also, that stepper needs a driver, which is quite large. The speedo steppers do not.
I have a X27 589, which has the wires coming out of the front. The X27 169 has them coming out of the back. So it depends on how I can route wires inside the body of the compass as to which one I use. Then I can hook it up directly to the gpio pins on the micro. No driver needed. Each step is 1/3°
Quote from: ame on January 09, 2020, 09:34:27 PMI have a X27 589, which has the wires coming out of the front. The X27 169 has them coming out of the back. So it depends on how I can route wires inside the body of the compass as to which one I use. Then I can hook it up directly to the gpio pins on the micro. No driver needed. Each step is 1/3°
The only issue with those motors is that they have internal stops at 0 & 315 degrees, they arent 360 degree steppers
Quote from: mickc on January 10, 2020, 01:29:09 AMQuote from: ame on January 09, 2020, 09:34:27 PMI have a X27 589, which has the wires coming out of the front. The X27 169 has them coming out of the back. So it depends on how I can route wires inside the body of the compass as to which one I use. Then I can hook it up directly to the gpio pins on the micro. No driver needed. Each step is 1/3°
The only issue with those motors is that they have internal stops at 0 & 315 degrees, they arent 360 degree steppers
Indeed. You can buy versions without the stop, but it's very easy to open the motor housing and remove the stop. I'll report back when I've done one.
Quick update on HT16K33 support with ALPS pulse switches.
There is good news and bad news.
The good news is that it works. I can hook up two pulse switches to the HT16K33 as if they are keys in a matrix keypad.
The bad news is that the results are inconsistent. I don't know if the switches are bad (when they are $11 each normally and $1 each from China you have to wonder...) or if the design is incompatible with the HT16K33.
The pulse switches are quite elegantly designed. Inside is a toothed wheel which meshes with the edge of a tiny plastic 'shuttle'. There are two pairs of sprung switch contacts at the left and right sides of the switch body. When the knob is turned the teeth on the wheel push the shuttle to the left or right, depending on which way the knob is turned. The end of the shuttle pushes one pair of contacts together. Once one tooth has passed the shuttle the shuttle springs back to centre, but it can't go past the centre and can't activate the contacts on the other side.
It's quite clever, but the switching event is very brief. It is literally a pulse. The HT16K33 has debouncing code inside, and I think it massages away a genuine switch closure as if it were a bounce.
I need to make a quick test harness with an Arduino or something to check if faster sampling of the switch will detect the closures more reliably, or if the shuttle or spring contacts are ever so slightly misaligned and don't actually connect.
I have noticed that one switch will work for about half of its clicks. The other for about a third. Again, it could be that due to manufacturing tolerances the contacts don't actually close, or close too quickly to be reliably detected. If I turn it really slowly then I can get the wheel to push the shuttle and make a switch closure that is longer before the tooth passes and the shuttle flicks back.
A bit disappointing. If the switches are marginal then it's not worth buying 'genuine' ones. I'd be better off using rotary encoders and a different chip. The HTK1633 is still good for multipole switches and human-timescale pushbuttons.
Work continues on the CANBUS interface project. Testing range and signal clarity with 200' of 2-conductor cable between the transceivers. Much thanks to JamesP for helping out with the code.
Hi Folks,
Here's an updated pic of my on-going 737 throttle build, now using two Saitek quadrants. With two quads, I've finally been able to add the Speed Brake handle. I spray-painted and finished the handles with white then applied acrylic laquer which took a few passes, to build up the thickness. On the quadrant it's self, I have two spare axes, one of which I've been trying to assign to Gear up/down. However P3D looks for a switch for this rather than an axis. One for looking into with FSUIPC I think. Not sure what to assign the final spare axis to. Happy building!
Derek
Landed me a Garmin 430 control head off eBay last week!
Been working on tracing out all the front panel wiring and installing a gorgeous 800x450 LCD panel.
It'll be driven by the Flight-1 Technologies 430 trainer software interfaced directly to X-Plane with the display area cropped and sent to the unit via a freeware app called "Scope Mirror", which takes a user-defined section of 1 display and sends it to another as a full screen display.
Ray, that looks great! In the pic, is that LCD driven from the Garmin's own (boot up?) software or is it actually being generated from XPlane? Great reverse engineering work. Can you post a pic of the how you did the back connections? What power source runs the Garmin now it's not in an aircraft?
Derek
An impressive masterpiece I say!
Fred K
OMG! You guys are totally killing it! Just when I thought it was getting too quite here on Cockpit Builders, you guys drop these awesome bombshells! All I can say is FREAKING AMAZING!
For my own simulator, just about to finish the projection screen stand. Got the curved PVC tubing on last night, and now some cleanup, then it'll be back to putting the FDS shell together.
Lastly, I will not attach the actual screen material until everything else is done. Don't want to take the chance of getting a smudge mark or snag because it will be there forever if I do, and it'll drive me even crazier seeing it.
John
PS Thanks again for keeping this thread going, like I've said before, I check it at least 5 times a day...if not more.
Great John!
When you get the visuals set up, post some pictures. I can see the logic of leaving the physical screen till last, no disasters there required..!
Derek
Sadly the unit didn't come with any of the electronics, save for the actual screen, which is beyond my ability to reverse-engineer. It was still extremely expensive but... the best time to buy something like this is when you first see it.
Luckily I had a spare 800x480 HDMI screen laying around that is a perfect fit.
(XPT2046 for the Raspberry Pi)
After several hours of tracing the front panel button wiring (Turns out it's a row/column matrix... the worst to reverse-trace!) I have what's a very believable and realistic Garmin 430 unit that feels exactly like the original because for all intents and purposes, it is!.
This is the Garmin 430 software:
https://www.flight1tech.com/consumer/Products/CategoryID/1/ProductID/13
This is the screen capture software I need to use because the Garmin software doesn't allow you to fully remove the bezel:
https://github.com/kcg-edu-future-lab/Scope-Mirror
The Scope-Mirror software is bad-ass. It's simple, and does exactly what I need it to do.
Can't wait to get this bad boy installed! It's a perfect combination for my Garmin MX-20 Moving Map/GPS system (Also real, and also fully reverse-engineered with nothing taken apart.)
Top job Ray!
I see now where you went with this. Great work tracing the front button wiring, looks tricky given it's a matrix!
Derek
I've moved all the interfacing discussion to its own topic. Please continue the discussion there.
Hey Kyle, thanks for the move. Didn't mind it here, but it'll be easier for everyone else too find...
John ;D
Test fitting the Garmin 430. The 430 will end up on top of the MX-20. This is my upcoming weekend work.
Today I finished the documentation for making a 3D-printed 2-1/4" (60mm) simulator gauge.
You can find the instructions in the new "How To" forum:
https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/index.php?topic=7836.0
The gauge requires no exotic tools or equipment, other than a 3D printer, and no exotic components, other than an automotive dashboard stepper motor.
Total cost is very little. Here's a ball-park estimate:
X27 589 Stepper Motor $2.00
2mm clear acrylic $0.50
3mm white acrylic $1.00
Connectors $0.50
3mm white LED $0.01
Nuts, bolts $1.00
3D printed parts $1.00
Total: $6
In addition you'll need something to drive the motor. I am experimenting with MCP23017 16-bit GPIO, $1.50. This will drive up to four stepper motors.
The design also supports dual-needle gauges. This uses the X40 stepper motor, which is about $7.
I will make a short video of the gauge I built, to demonstrate that it actually works.
Hey Everyone,
Finally, getting my FDS B737NG Nose Kit and Liners put together. After 2 years awaiting in the boxes, things are coming together.
Got the nose kit done and started the liners, but had to stop because of my platform in its current state will not work. Previously, it was setup too be rolled out for maintenance and since my yoke & pedals portion is already a platform I have to build around that.
Therefore, I basically have to add two long rectangular portions to make it 10'x10' when all combined, and then it all must be on wheels to roll underneath the nose (in/out) when needed. More or less what I had before, just bigger.
The pics here show the nose kit only and the newly built, free-standing, projection screen unit. Albeit, the actual screen is not mounted yet, as that will be done last to avoid dirt and dust getting on it, as well as accidental tears into it.
Regarding the stand, it's 1" square metal tubing welded into three large sections that when bolted together will complete the 220 degree curve. It also has black sheet metal (sheets) riveted to the curve on the front facing side to give structural stability. The white PVC tubing is for attaching the white screen using the 6" bungees (both from Carl's place).
John
John,
That looks awesome. Great to see your progress, keep the pics coming.
Les
WOW! Looks great. Looking forward to seeing it flying John.
Nice back section against the wall !! :D
Thanks guys, but I only follow the greats like you...😁
John
looks like darth fader... but its insides that matter what ya doing for windows of any ?
apples
with sound programable
Them some nice apples :) Love them apples :)
Today I modified the 3D printing files for 60mm gauges again because... you really should print out or at least carefully check a 3D render of a part if ever you modify it.
So, anyway, current files on GitLab are all good.
I made a quick test program to drive the gauge with an MCP23017 I2C GPIO expander using Python on a Raspberry Pi. I'll take a video and post it on YouTube.
I also tested the backlighting with a PWM-driven MOSFET module. I could drive the PWM input from the Pi, but I intend to use a PCA9685 I2C PWM chip.
Bit of a setback for me unfortunately. Was putting the Center MIP back in place and fired it up only to discover all kinds of power weirdness.
Somehow during the course of working on the Garmin 430, I must have looked at the transponder radio in a way it saw fit to permanently discontinue it's services.
Replacements are roughly $250 US from Flight Illusion. Nope!
Working on gutting the dead radio and using the parts, tied to a Teensy 3.2 over CANBUS.
Sounds like Gremlins are at it again Ray!
Hey Bernard,
Yep, Star Wars vibe, but B737 on the inside and love it. The windows are plexi or whatever it's called from FDS. I will attach them to the outside like I once did with the real cockpit...
How is your sim coming? Is it flyable yet?
John
Ugh! More set-backs!
Power gremlins have returned. The same ones that took out my transponder radio. Identified the suspect power supply (There are 5) and the 12v side is reading 3.3vdc.
Hoping it didn't take anything else with it.
Brain is figuring out how to isolate power delivery if something is out-of-spec.
:P This is why I completely gutted my sim and re-ran new cables. Too many changes to have a loose wire blow something up. I have never seen a power supply going low, actually cooking something. that sucks.
Trev
Yes i reckon it must be the season for the gremlins.
I had the unfortunate experience of sticking 400vdc on a 5v line. Luckily all i had connected at the time was my Clock module. Fried every chip on the board.
Gremlins man, just Gremlins!
That's some awesome work there, John!
I recently purchased an item off eBay and I'm going to try my hand at interfacing it to X-Plane.
Power-Up tests were successful!
More power gremlins, resulting in the loss of another component... an LCD display.
Had enough. I'm gutting all the power wiring and re-working everything. I can't sacrifice any more expensive electronics to shoot this gremlin.
Reducing the power supply count from 5 to 2. (Granted, these are going to be massive power supplies to handle everything the sim throws at them.) One 12VDC/83 Amp supply, and a 5vdc/60-Amp supply. All power end-points will be fused, so if something shorts out again, just the device is affected and not everything else.
Funny thing is, I should have known better....
Turns out that using multiple supplies can have negative consequences, too numerous to list here.
Hey Ray,
You likely know all this already, but what are your 110v circuits like? How many are you using for your sim?
All I know is 2 is not enough, it will heat everything up based whatever the most amps being used at one point is. Put one 8amp device and 6 more lower amp devices on a 15amp circuit, and the lower amp devices will get the heat up from the 8 amp device. You'll get shorting issues, burnouts, browning of both power supplies and surge protector strips.
Of course you should also avoid extension cords at all cost; unless, they're rated really high amp.
Lastly, in my example above, it adds up to 14amps; whereas, it's best to only use 12amps on any given 15amp circuit. This provides headroom. Albeit, you're talking about providing DC amps, but what if the other 110v items and your DC Power Supplies are heating up together, causing heat to push down the DC lines affecting the devices on those lines?
John
PS Karen's advice for you is to take a break away from it for a few days, because your gremlins will get bored and leave if you're not there...lol!
Quote from: RayS on February 29, 2020, 08:06:11 PMTurns out that using multiple supplies can have negative consequences, too numerous to list here.
I think, on balance, you'll find there are positives too.
I'll get my coat.
Hmmm... What I could do is segregate everything that requires the following:
1. Always On: USB Hubs, Displays... basically everything that needs to be alive when the computers fire up.
2. Battery-Only-On: Everything that turns on only when battery power is applied
3. Avionics-Only-On: Radios, GPS systems, etc...
Obviously I want to do this correctly. Maybe the above scenario warrants multiple power supplies, isolated by power diodes.
The more I dive into this the more I'm realizing I'm out of my engineering realm.
There are no components in the sim that pull a significant amount of current. I have no Force-Feedback systems which would draw a significant amount. Just a lot of little circuits with minimal current draw.
Regardless though, I need to get this right. Any help is appreciated. :-)
The AC side is fairly robust. The power drops in this hangar are 2 60-amp circuits which are above the norm for normal house current. Everything in the hangar is powered off a dedicated sub-panel with 60-amp breakers. I don't really think that's the issue as the sim has been running fine for a year, save for the last week.
Which leads me to conclude that something shorted out and I just need to find it. :-)
Quote from: RayS on February 29, 2020, 08:06:11 PMMore power gremlins, resulting in the loss of another component... an LCD display.
Had enough. I'm gutting all the power wiring and re-working everything. I can't sacrifice any more expensive electronics to shoot this gremlin.
Reducing the power supply count from 5 to 2. (Granted, these are going to be massive power supplies to handle everything the sim throws at them.) One 12VDC/83 Amp supply, and a 5vdc/60-Amp supply. All power end-points will be fused, so if something shorts out again, just the device is affected and not everything else.
Funny thing is, I should have known better....
Turns out that using multiple supplies can have negative consequences, too numerous to list here.
Okay....Ray's dilemma here sort of unnerves me, and John's (and others' here) grasp of electronics humbles me for sure. Yes, I studied basic electronics along the way in high school and college, but I have never been motivated enough to delve deeply into the subject regarding my sim simply because I have not encountered the kinds of issues reported here (necessity is the mother of all learning). So bottom-line, I guess maybe I have been dumb lucky.
But for whatever it is worth.....The current rendition of my sim is about a decade old now. It is a fully complete enclosed fixed-base 737 cockpit. It does not have the complexity of a motion platform, but does have the complexity of a multi-channel visual setup.
I have 8 dedicated 20 amp circuits in the sim room. Those service 6 computers, 3 projectors, 10 monitors of various sorts, 5 converted cheap PC power supplies for the sim electronics (5V/12V), and some 24V transformers for lighting and other minor applications, etc. The sim electronics for the fully functional OH, MIP, and the converted motorized TQ are home wired, all else is pretty much plug-and-play. There is no wiring for converted real instrumentation other than the TQ. All electrical current into the sim is downstream from 1875W surge protectors, but none of the home wiring is fused (because to this point I have not been motivated enough to engineer that part of it). I make it a point to close the power at all the surge protectors when the sim is not in use, so there is no electrical service connections into the sim or computers when I am not there.
So that is my report. Again, I am not smart enough about electronics to know if any of that provides any learning or valuable insight. I'm simply reporting what it is. I may just be dumb lucky since I have yet to have any electronic failures of any kind (other than some really stupid and obvious wiring mistakes that I made that fried a servo or two, and a headset module that failed for some unknown reason).
Fred K
Quote from: blueskydriver on February 29, 2020, 09:38:23 PMHey Ray,
You likely know all this already, but what are your 110v circuits like? How many are you using for your sim?
All I know is 2 is not enough, it will heat everything up based whatever the most amps being used at one point is. Put one 8amp device and 6 more lower amp devices on a 15amp circuit, and the lower amp devices will get the heat up from the 8 amp device. You'll get shorting issues, burnouts, browning of both power supplies and surge protector strips.
This is factually incorrect. A high power draw cannot flow backwards up a different branch circuit. The only way an 8A device can cause a lower power device(lets say 2A) to heat up is if the 2A device has been wired in series some way with the 8A device.
If you having issues like this, there is something else wrong and it is not related to power draw.
Quote from: FredK on March 01, 2020, 05:51:46 AMOkay....Ray's dilemma here sort of unnerves me, and John's (and others' here) grasp of electronics humbles me for sure. Yes, I studied basic electronics along the way in high school and college, but I have never been motivated enough to delve deeply into the subject regarding my sim simply because I have not encountered the kinds of issues reported here (necessity is the mother of all learning). So bottom-line, I guess maybe I have been dumb lucky.
But for whatever it is worth.....The current rendition of my sim is about a decade old now. It is a fully complete enclosed fixed-base 737 cockpit. It does not have the complexity of a motion platform, but does have the complexity of a multi-channel visual setup.
I have 8 dedicated 20 amp circuits in the sim room. Those service 6 computers, 3 projectors, 10 monitors of various sorts, 5 converted cheap PC power supplies for the sim electronics (5V/12V), and some 24V transformers for lighting and other minor applications, etc. The sim electronics for the fully functional OH, MIP, and the converted motorized TQ are home wired, all else is pretty much plug-and-play. There is no wiring for converted real instrumentation other than the TQ. All electrical current into the sim is downstream from 1875W surge protectors, but none of the home wiring is fused (because to this point I have not been motivated enough to engineer that part of it). I make it a point to close the power at all the surge protectors when the sim is not in use, so there is no electrical service connections into the sim or computers when I am not there.
So that is my report. Again, I am not smart enough about electronics to know if any of that provides any learning or valuable insight. I'm simply reporting what it is. I may just be dumb lucky since I have yet to have any electronic failures of any kind (other than some really stupid and obvious wiring mistakes that I made that fried a servo or two, and a headset module that failed for some unknown reason).
Fred K
Fred,
From your description you have set the sim up correctly and I wouldn't worry about it. Especially if you are turning off power to it when not using it, which is what everyone should be doing.
The circuit breakers in your house is the fusing for those circuits.
A lot of times these issues are caused by improperly designed components, low quality parts, amateur wiring, using cheap power supplies, or using a PC power supply in some application where it is not intended to be used. Sometimes parts just fail.
Ray, I'd be happy to look over your plans if you'd like. I am a little concerned about your 60A breakers though.
Thanks for everyone's input. I'm especially interested in Kyle's expertise on 2 approaches I roughed together. (See attached images)
A few questions:
1. Which one is the right approach? And could it be further refined/protected?)
2. Do I need Power Isolation diodes on each power supply output? (I've read that you sort of do, but only if you really don't understand the power supply's behavior)
Hi Kyle,
Thanks for pointing that out; however, after reading my post I realized I tied two sentences together wrongly and forgot to say a third part...it was 4am and I had been up for 20 hours...lol.
What I meant to say is this: All I know is 2 residential regular 15amp circuits are not enough. Regular as in maybe 4-5 typical home 15amp outlets on a single circuit.
Why? Because unless you know how all the outlets were wired or you did them yourself, as well as what is plugged into all those outlets and their amp draw. You might not found out what your simulator items being plugged into that same circuit is going too do until it happens.
Also, my point about 8amp draw with 6 other lower amp items on a 15amp circuit was meant about them all being on one circuit only, not flowing back onto a branch circuit. Plus, there can be some unknown variables with residential home wiring that a new person into this hobby might not think about right away; especially, the non-electronic type folks.
Probably the best thing too say is "If you're going to build a simulator have an electrician come access your home electrical system before you start..."
John
Here goes the glue...woo hoo!
Hey Everyone,
More things done with the platforms. Got all the rubber matting glued down and seats are back on, along with the TQ sitting in place.
Amazingly, take a look at the soon too be added item in the pics. Yep, this has been sitting on a shelf for years waiting for today. It's OpenCockpits brand panel kits with PNP radios.
Jack, if you're looking, see where your FP is going? The OEM one would've been out of place. Speaking of which did you get the replacement FDS items yet; Karen says she'll put the new items in for me...woo hoo, yeah lucky me! ;D
Maybe, some of you've noticed, that's a B727 TQ with a 2 bay ped in the pic. Well, I keep getting closer everyday to converting it to a B737 TQ by removing and rearranging pieces. Unless, I can sell this one and buy a 737 TQ.
Albeit, I am curious, is anyone interested in a B727 anymore? Believe it or not I have the B727-100/200 MIP, the FWD and AFT Overheads, the FE Station, and the Fuel Panel that I might sell. I've been on the fence about this because it has all OEM switches, annunciators, and much more that I could use in my 737...might post an ad and see what happens.
John
Coming along very nicely!
Fred K
Nice build.
Steve is supposed to send me those parts and the one I need for the conversion. He is on an assignment now. Soon !
Thanks Fred. Yep, even small progress is a big step when doing this hobby.
Okay Jack, sounds awesome! Thank You!
John
Hey Everyone,
Forgot to mention, is there anyone here who could build both sets of the metal heel plate/risers (Capt and FO sides) that go under the rudder pedals for me? If so, please send a PM...
John
Finally, we got all the coin shape matting down with metal trim. Since this is a sectional platform it took a little longer. Next, gotta move the entire back wall/door section out of the way and roll everything else into place, and from there mount the cockpit shell on top.
This is so much, feels like when we first started...
John
Back in business...almost ;D
John,
Looking good, there's no stopping you now.
What a failed power supply looks like....
I'm finally over the hump though. Two weeks after a power supply went bad, all systems are once again functional. I did lose the Pilot's PFD display & the transponder due to this mess.
I redid the entire power distribution using better methodologies and non-computer power supplies. Also standardized on wiring, which is a high-grade 18-gauge 3-conductor stranded copper. No voltage loss on the longer runs.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M62HEPU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I'll spend some of tomorrow validating everything and with any luck I'll be back up in the air shortly.
Today I decided to have a go at making a prop-sync indicator.
RayS sent me the diameter of the tube that is the instrument body (thanks RayS!), and I used that to scale some photos that I found on the web.
I had asked the manufacturer, but no dimensions were forthcoming from them.
So far it's a tiny 6V geared motor in a housing, driving a black-and-white segmented disk. The housing is inserted into a panel-mount bezel with captive M3 nuts for mounting and a 19mm disk of clear plastic cut from a CD case as a window.
It will look fabulous when printed in the matt black filament I have, but for now it's whatever is in the printer. The motor turns, and the decal could be backlit.
Next step is to drive the motor with an Arduino and an H-bridge, and have a sensor to detect the rotation speed so that I can keep it at the requested speed. I'll also PWM the backlight LEDs so that they can be dimmed.
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This thread was somewhat interesting to me, with respect to the electrical/power considerations for a Sim project.
If you ask anyone in technical customer service when they get a complaint that their gizmo doesn't power up, the first question they ask is, "Do you have the power cord plugged in?" :)
Thus, when we think of the power to our simulators, it all starts with the power source.
The typical home might have a 100 Amp service for the entire house, with most circuits being 15 amps. This varies of course, with newer homes having a 200 amp capability, some even higher. As Fred pointed out, having multiple outlets on individual circuits is a good way to go.
I would say that in general for a Static Simulator, the power requirement is typically handled by two 120 VAC 15 amp outlets. If you are running additional computers and/or projector systems, then you may need to share the load among several AC outlets. For example, with my Sim configuration, I use two 120 VAC 20 amp outlets for the Sim computers, and one 120 VAC 20 amp outlet for the three Projectors. This turns out to be a bit of overkill, but in my case, it was convenient.
However, in some Sim setups, there is a tendency to "overload" the AC power by trying to power everything from a single 15 amp outlet. Of course, most of you understand that there is a need to assess the power requirements for each Sim system you are using, eg. computers, monitors, USB Hubs, TQs, etc. -- essentially, everything you are using in your Sim. To do this, you can buy an inexpensive Watt Meter to actively measure the power you are using. It all goes back to the primary power source, and basically, you can't get 18 amps out of a 15 amp ac power outlet. If you know what each component in your Sim is consuming for power, then you can better manage the requirement. Getting more AC Plug strips is not necessarily a good strategy when using a single AC outlet. You laugh, but we all try to do it... ;D
It is also important to take a look at the quality of the power you have available. If your area suffers from "brown outs" that is a problem for sure. Most equipment these days can handle low voltage from the AC outlets. But the best thing to do for 120 VAC power, is to use a good quality "On-Line Double Conversion" UPS in the 2000VA - 3000VA power range. These will provide clean 120VAC sine wave power to your Sim's power requirements. They are also bullet proof in lightning prone areas or where power surges are a problem. You would be wise to use one or two of these in your Sim project, depending on your total power requirements.
As a side note for the 6dof Motion Platform power requirements... I am using a dedicated 240 VAC 100 amp Panel, and breaking out six (6) 240 VAC 20 amp circuits -- one for each Servo Controller.
As far as power distribution within the Sim... There is typically requirements for 120 VAC, for computers and displays, USB Hubs, and low voltage power supplies instrument modules (+5vdc and +12 vdc), etc.. In the case of some instrument modules, you can use a power "brick or wall wart" to get the low voltage needed, eg. the FDS SysCards.
As for the low voltage power requirements... Using power bricks for the +5vdc or +12vdc power needs is perfectly fine -- they just take up space. These are typically small switching power supply modules that in some cases, can be electrically noisy depending on their quality. When it comes to power sources for your Sim -- buy quality! It is also perfectly fine to deep-six the power bricks and use a dedicated +5VDC or +12vdc power source, which are typically switching power supplies. MeanWell makes some good low cost Power Supplies. Stay away from no-name power supplies or surplus power supplies, as you get what you pay for, and what you usually get are headaches! In the typical Sim, it is common to have a combination of power bricks and dedicated low voltage power supplies. What is important here is the organization of these power modules -- especially grounding considerations and wiring routing in and around your Sim. Of course, in all cases, electrical safety is of critical importance. Some of these DC switching power supplies have "open" 120 VAC connections, so be extra careful to protect and isolate these connections. The use of tywraps is good to constrain wire runs so you don't have wires flopping all over the place. Remember... If it can come loose, it will come loose!
It is also a good idea to have fused power circuits in a Sim project for overall safety and protection of equipment. In this regard, clean organization of wire harnessing is always a good plan.
Anyway... Just some thoughts on the basics... The important take away here is not to overload your AC power outlets, to use good wiring practices with well organized wire harnessing using the correct size wire, to buy quality power supplies, and to use a high quality UPS -- better yet, an On-Line Double Conversion UPS.
Mike
Thanks for that info Mike. After reading it I'm pleased that I did everything right this time around.
Good-quality Meanwell supplies with plenty of current capacity to handle transient loads.
I also used power diodes throughout, and fused every.single.component so if something decides to go south, it won't take everything with it.
As of right now, everything is back up and running.
I wanted to add, I am also going to put my 3 projectors on a large UPS.
We don't get power outages all that frequently but there have been a few.
My concern is that with a blackout and the projectors running, those things will just sit there and bake without any airflow.
A Pic!
Hi Ray,
Glad you are back up and running. The pic of your power supplies and distribution panel is true perfection. Well done!
Not a bad idea using a UPS for your projectors. The downside of bulb type projectors, is when they are not allowed to cool down slowly prior to power being turn OFF.
Anyway... Excellent job on your wiring technique!
Mike
More pics, all interior panels installed and shell is done. Next up, hanging the FWD & AFT OVHDs.
Great progress John! I really like how you "segmented" the Flight Deck so you can pull out the center section. We really do have to consider how we are able to access modules in order to work on our Sims.
When do you expect to have everything up and running?
Mike
JUST KEEP BUILDING YOUR FLIGHT SIMULATOR COCKPIT...
NOTHING ELSE MATTERS!
;D
John,
I notice you have front covers on the FDS Shell, From experience (At Worldflight) it gets damn warm in there without airflow from front to back, you may find with the monitors etc, she gets too warm with that closed off.
You may consider keeping those off, but that's up to you. (Just a suggestion)
Trev
Hey Trev,
OMG! Thank you, I wasn't even thinking about that! I will pull them off for sure 😁
John
Yes,
We even had 2 8-10" fans installed in front of Capt & FO rudder pedals and a big 12 ducted fan in the back. At night, we would typically keep them off, but in during the day it would get super warm.
Keep in mind this is inside a sealed dedicated 70 Degree Air conditioned room. However inside that shell with everything going on, it gets very warm.
I am no expert, just making suggestions based on expert.
Hey Trevor,
Thank you and yes, you're an expert based on the experience of doing non-commercial simulator cockpits.
Plus, with all the World Flight events, your own Streaming Flights, as well as the amount of sims you've built or been a part of building. That qualifies you in the expert category....
Kind Regards,
John
Hey Mike,
Thank you. And, you're 100% correct about the accessibility of our sims. With mine having a prebuilt motorized Yoke/Pedals platform it definitely needed the rollout capability.
Plus, I figured it should be the same for the seat platforms and they're actually individual sections, but this time I bolted them together. Means the TQ can stay on top for rolling things out; otherwise, had to take it out and find a safe space for it.
As for when the sim will be ready, I am planning for sometime in April, if not sooner. With the FDS nose and projection screen stand being done, it's just a matter of reinstalling everything from before.
John
a rule to follow you can never have enough cooling i run 8 tonnes and its still not an igloo
Hi Folks,
Regarding "cockpit Cooling"... I recall my very first flight in a 737 Sim... It was Scott's Sim, and truly a great experience! One thing I remember is that I needed a greater sense of air flow in the cockpit, and a need for cool air.
Now that I have had a chance to fly a few full-scale Sims, I can confirm that as for the CA and FO, having some cool air flowing in and through the cockpit is a definite plus. This is especially important when demonstrating the Sim to someone that may not be use to flying, as it is much easier to get a sense of motion sickness when the cockpit environment seems warm.
In my Sim, the cooling strategy is to have forced air come through the Left and Right EyeBall Vents, and user adjustable (independent for both the CA side and FO side) forced air coming through the CA and FO lower rudder area and the Upper Glare Shield area. Two separate Pull-Levers for this...
The source of the "forced air" is from a TripLite IP Cooler. Here is the link for what I am using:
https://www.tripplite.com/smartrack-12000-btu-120v-portable-air-conditioning-unit-small-server-rooms-network-closets~SRCOOL12K
In my Sim, I will be using a 6" flexible Duct going from the IP Cooler on the Sim floor to the Sim/Motion Platform. The exhaust of the IP Cooler is vented out throught the wall to the outside. The output air temperature can be set at the IP Cooler and is automatically regulated. The air is then routed through the 6" flex conduit to the Sim, which is elevated on the Motion Platform. The Flex Conduit allows for full movement of the Sim/Motion Platform. The Flex Conduit mates to a mainfold on the front of the Sim for controlled routing as described above. When all the Cockpit "air ports" are closed, the air is vented through a by-pass port on the manifold and exhausted into the Sim Room.
As I recall... Fred still has the same IP Cooler for his full-scale 737 Sim, which does a nice job of cooling down his entire Sim Room. Thanks for the tip Fred... This IP Cooler has been a real blessing for my Sim Project.
Mike
Please forgive the image test... I'm trying to figure out how to post a photo. Hope this works...
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By the way... This is an experimental aircraft that I built. It requiring 9 years to build. It is called the Turbine Legend. This photo shows my wife and me flying off the coast of California. This aircraft was replaced by my 737-800/Motion Platform Project. Just as much fun to fly, but zero cost for Jet-A fuel. On take off the Turbine Legend burned about 74gph.
Love photo's like that Mike.
Thanks for sharing
Trev
Hi Trevor,
Hope you are doing well.
Question: Ho do I keep from getting two of the same photo when I post an image in a message?
I have been dragging the photo to Attach window, then Inserting it into the text. I see that other only get one photo. Any help on this? Thanks.
Mike
Hi Mike,
On the front page of this site there is a post called Instructions for posting attachments. Here is the Link to the thread. The problem is after you click upload your pressing the insert button which you don't need to do otherwise you will get a duplicate image.
https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/index.php?topic=7724
Let me know if this solves your issue.
thanks,
Trev
Thanks Trevor.... I'll try that the next time. My last post on the TQ does have duplicate photos. Sorry.
Mike
Today I did a quick test of my tacho sensor in the prop sync indicator, to see if it would actually work.
I'm using this tiny motor inside:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000152447766.html
At the end of the shaft is the black and white segmented indicator disc.
At the gearbox I have another disc. This one is half black, half white, on the 'back' side towards the gearbox and motor.
An optical sensor is mounted close to the gearbox, looking at the back of that disc. It can detect the black and white halves which gives me a tachometer signal which I can use to measure the rotation speed.
Between the two discs is an LED. It shines through the white parts of the indicator disc. I was hoping it did not shine back through the tacho disc. It doesn't. :)
![tacho_test.jpg tacho_test.jpg](https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=cf48b168badf584e472e3dfee99c882c&action=dlattach;attach=20009)
In the photo you can see the LED pushed through a hole on the left. It lights up the indicator face and the whole of the front of the body. I'll print the body in black and paint the inside white. The indicator illumination is much more even than it appears in the photo.
On the right is the optical sensor. It is a TCRT5000, which is common and cheap, although I'd like to use an RPR220, which is smaller. It is pointed towards the back of the tacho disc inside. I get clean regular pulses from the output of the sensor. It seems to be unaffected by the white LED.
Next step is to add an H-Bridge to control the motor from an Arduino, and write some code to match the motor speed to the desired speed using the tacho signal.
AME,
This is a fascinating project! Perhaps you could post a short video of its operation. Where is the input information coming from? Is it FSUIPC, and how are you reading the Tach data? Also, it is possible for you to post the schematic for the H-Bridge you are planing to use, and its components?
Interesting project... Keep up the good work!
Mike
Hi Mike,
It's a work in progress. There is no input data yet. I'll build the device and specify the interface, then the data can come from anywhere.
The tachometer will be used internally, and will be read by hooking up the opto sensor output to an Arduino. I think I will change the tacho pattern from half black half white to four black segments, like the front decal, because I won't get many tacho pulses at slow speeds.
The H-bridge is an off-the-shelf module I happened to have. It might not be particularly good, but I'll post the details if it works.
I will publish all the details and files as open source when it's finished. In the meantime I'm just writing about the trials and errors.
I like building things, and in these times there's nothing much else to do. Thanks for your interest. I'll try and answer any more questions, and I'll post more as progress is made.
Andrew
Quote from: ame on March 21, 2020, 12:19:27 PMHi Mike,
The H-bridge is an off-the-shelf module I happened to have. It might not be particularly good, but I'll post the details if it works.
Mike this is the H-Bridge I use for my Trim wheel. I use a duel shaft stepper, one for the Trim encoder and one for the wheel itself.
Trev
Hi Trevor,
Do you have a part number/manufacture for your H-Bridge?
Mike
After a marathon "Let's rip out all the power wiring, replace all the power supplies after one of them decided it no longer wanted to play nice, fuse everything, repair the pilot's PFD and create an entirely new interface platform using CANBUS to bring the transponder back to life", I'm happy to report that the sim is 100% functional.
Just finished tonight with tweaking some CANBUS code and re-installing everything.
Now for a well-deserved maintenance flight.
WOW RAY! When you do it, you do it BBBIIIGGGG!
And here I am spending all week on wiring 10 switches...lol!
On a good note, I will be using some 28V items with a 110V to 28V power transformer, courtesy of Rob from ob-teen years ago 😁
John
Thanks, John~!
The maintenance flight went well. Everything just seemed "Crisp". Very little lag in switch events, transponder behaved exactly like the FlightIllusion version, (but with more functionality)
So.. overall I'm ready to get Back on that horse and hopefully do a stream or two this weekend on Twitch.
I have one more project on the bench for a good friend of mine, which is to re-interface another FlightIllusion Flaps gauge for his 737.
...after which time I may just fly for awhile. No more projects...
OK. I am going to try and post something here for the first time. Given the level of expertise and skill of the folks on this site, it is a wee bit intimidating but I have been waiting a long time to (try and) build a dual control simulator.
I fly turboprops, not jets and actually had the chance to fly right seat in a King Air B200 back in the 90's. My current sim is a King Air/ generic turboprop twin and this one will be as well, but more accurate and complete. Up until this year I have not had the space to build a big sim so the current one is in a corner of my office. The new one will be in the basement. I have had good luck with Precision Flight Controls and I was able to buy a dual control PFC PCATD from the University of Iowa on a government auction almost 4 years ago. It included the flight panel with dual yokes, a set of dual rudder pedals, and the PFC radios. No cords or anything came with it but I never had any intention of using the old serial electronics in the unit anyway. When this thing was new (no idea how old it is) it was the top of the line from PFC at the time and it was an FAA approved sim that was used at the U for a number of years. I got the whole thing for $325 plus what it cost me to drive from Minneapolis to Ames, Iowa to pick it up. It has been sitting in my garage until about 2 weeks ago when I started to self-quarantine and moved it down the basement.
Since then I have stripped out all of the old electronics. I am salvaging a lot of the switches and some of the wiring but using a Leo Bodnar board for all of the flight controls and buttons, etc. on the yokes. I have other Leo Boadnar boards that will handle the switches from the various King Air panels which I was able to get from Troopings. I already have some Ruscool stuff so this was a no brainer for me. Also using a connector that takes a CAT 5 input and outputs all of the wires as the buttons and switches on the yokes were all wired via CAT 5. Unfortunately, or fortunately, those switches and some of the wiring were pretty much shot so I was able to salvage the two behind the yoke switches but ended up building my own on the pilots side for the left and right side (see pics). I took a pattern from Thingiverse for an autopilot disconnect and trim switch for a cessna yoke and modified it to fit the Mooney yokes that came with the unit I bought. Also made some other parts to create a yoke mounted autopilot disconnect and trim.
The heftiness and craftsmanship of these parts from PFC are impressive so I have included some pics of the internals. As of right now I have the elevators, ailerons, and rudders working and calibrated. Additionally, all of the buttons and switches on the Pilots yoke are fully functional and working. I will need to replace the two top mounted switches on the copilot yoke at some point.
I have also modified a thingiverse design for a gear lever and built a working landing gear lever using two microswitches. I am planning on redoing the lever and knob but the unit is working and was scaled to fit the new panel. Most recently, I am working on trying (emphasis on trying) to build some working gauges using a 3d printer and some gears and servos. I have started with the fuel gauges. I built two dummy gauges for the time being while I work on printing and then trying to get the printed gauges to work.
The front part of the PFC panel is going to be cut completely off and the new panel will be mounted to the remaining box as part of the new sim. I am not a
First off, Never be intimidated. We are all an easy going group of guys that love to hear about others progress.
Love the Pictures, and Great Job.
Trev
Thanks Trevor.
Steve
Hi Steve,
Great to see your work, and please keep telling us all you want about it. You're not be wordy at all, you're just being very informative.
Knowingly in the world of keep things quick and short, Cockpit Builders is not like that. Instead, this is the place where we will take all the knowledge we can get....
John
Confirming PFC hardware is top notch
I use their Boeing type rudders.
Hey Everyone,
Just discovered a neat little trick! I needed some holes in the FDS shell for cable routing, so using a drill and jigsaw, just went at it.
The problem after cutting the holes and filing the edges to prevent cable rash, it needed something more attractive. Therefore, in my search I found some plastic cable covering, the type with a slit in it.
Anyway, just frame it out and cut to fit. Looks great and saves the cables. Of course started me thinking about other cutouts for air vents, as well as just to cover the edges that are easy to bump into....
John
Good suggestion John...! Anything to create a barrier between sheet metal corners is helpful to prevent chaffing and potential shorting of electrical wires.
In fact, I am going through my MIP and Overheads today to identify all the potential areas where the wire harness might contact the sheet metal structure. This is especially important in my Sim with its 6dof Motion Platform.
Years ago, when I built a RotorWay 162F (2-place piston powered helicopter), I had to go through the same process of isolating and securing cabling in order to prevent chaffing of wires/cables. Even though I took extensive measures to protect these areas, it was surprising to me how vibration can worm its way into our wiring harnesses and associated connections, both electrical and mechanical. This is one reason why the aviation industry uses "safety wire" to secure fasteners and connections.
The Split plastic conduit you used is an easy way to go for a static Sim. There are other such dedicated Flex Edge Banding products that can be used as well to help protect wiring.
Mike
Hi Mike,
Can you provide some links and pics of the items you used please? I had the split tubing on the shelf for a long time, but it'd be nice too see what you used....
John
Just had another crazy idea!
For years we've all flown our sims with the simple fact that the interior is inherently dark even in daytime flights.
However, some years ago I saw someone using lights and controllers much like stage and theater lighting to bright/dim the cockpit based on the position of the sun/moon in the flight sim program. Cannot find it now though...lol!
Anyway, so this hits me, why not double the center view projector (if using a 3 projector setup) with a 4th projector and place it up and above the cockpit, in front of the nose, but pointing towards the cockpit? In other words, this projector would light up the cockpit in almost the same way as real exterior daytime/nighttime light does.
So, for example, if you're flying directly toward the sun that 4th projector view would be showing the sun and with it pointing towards the cockpit it'll light up much in the same as real life. This would work even at night time towards the moon, as well as the positioning would be correct either way.
This 4th projectors' window view in FSX or P3D would only be a sky view to reduce resources on the simulator computer(s), not unless you were to WideView it with another client machine. Although, you could just Y cable connect the center projector and 4th projector, giving the 4th the same image. This would be kind of cool with reflections on the windscreens and such.
Lastly, I am thinking this could be done if you're using 3-5 LCD monitors (TVs) for your sim. If use a projector in the same manner as I described above and as long as you have room for the light to come inward and above the monitors.
As for the projector, it doesn't have to match what you already have, nor would you need to use the same resolutions. It can be a cheap and used model, as you're only using it as a direct source light.
What do you all think?
John
i say if you really want the full experience
1... get a few shop vacs and turn them all on
2... for east sun get halogen lamp and shine it in your eyes
then you are golden
Okay Bernard, I'll fall for it.... what the hell are the shop vacs for????
engine and ambient sounds lol .. maybe i am not as funny haha as i think i am
You do not have it Bernard :P
All those Shop Vacs suckers can create a nice explosive depressurization
:D
bugger your right lol
It must be hump day! LOL!
Seriously, I am going to do this projector idea and mainly it's about the darkness inside the simulator cockpit which is abnormal from the real aircraft.
As for ambient sound, got that covered with 2 big sub-woofers under the seat platform and a 5.1 surround sound all around the cockpit...RTFLOL!
However, I have been thinking about adding a butt kicker or something similar on the glareshield, too make it slightly vibrate during TO/LAND and in turbulence...hahaha!
Oh Yeah, I still have the Jet Fuel scent stuff, so don't know how much more I can do.
Then again, the shop vac idea would be interesting...hold on, let me hook up the 2 big shop vacs, the 3 medium ones and the 2 small ones I have...will get back to you on this...REALLY LOL!!!
John
QuoteHowever, some years ago I saw someone using lights and controllers much like stage and theater lighting to bright/dim the cockpit based on the position of the sun/moon in the flight sim program. Cannot find it now though...lol!
I remember that also...and for awhile I was giving it some semi-serious consideration....
Actually it would be relatively easy to put an array of lights in an arc in front of and above the cockpit (or a curved track with a moving light). The mechanism would also have to be positioned slightly above and behind the screen so as to not interfere with the projection lighting. It would be easy to program the lighting relative to the heading of the aircraft and the time of day (for dimming).
I ended up going a much simpler route. I have an led strip that is hidden but illuminates the glareshield from above. For daytime flights I turn it on, for nighttime flights I turn it off.
Fred K
That might have been me. :-)
When I addressed the pit darkness, I had the luxury of 3 X-Plane Datarefs: Skycolors, broken down into R, G, B values:
lightlevel_R = XPlaneRef("sim/graphics/misc/outside_light_level_r");
lightlevel_G = XPlaneRef("sim/graphics/misc/outside_light_level_g");
lightlevel_B = XPlaneRef("sim/graphics/misc/outside_light_level_b");
I used a Teensy to access those datarefs, then I attached a DMX controller to the Teensy and subsequently to a DMX light bar.
DMX seems to be the industry standard for stage lighting, Hollywood and those folks that turn their homes into a nuclear winter Christmas show during the holidays. :-)
Works really well.
Here's a DMX controller for Arduino:
https://www.dfrobot.com/product-984.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMInryOyfDZ6AIVFtNkCh3l6AlBEAQYAiABEgKmgfD_BwE
Here is the lightbar I use:
https://www.amazon.com/320-Led-Light-Channel-Control/dp/B00HEZTU28
I took several swipes at this problem before I landed on the X-Plane datarefs.
First attempt was to point an RGB Light sensor at the projector screen but the way projectors behave, and the crazy fast speed at which the light sensor reads colors created a disco light show inside the cockpit.
Hey Ray,
Do you have a video of it working?
John
Not yet, John but I can put one together tonight.
Ironically, the difficult part of the project was adding light baffling so the pit is illuminated but is not a factor for the pilots and light spillage onto the projector screen.
does the 73 have sensors in glaresheild ? then you may bevablebto have auto dom and auto bright of lightplates no ?
Hey Guys,
This is great input from everyone!
Yes Ray, please make the video...
Bernard, does the 74 have the sensors? If so, it'd be cool to see you include Ray's concept and your idea together.
John
Has anyone looked at COB LED Panels for this application?
They are far more powerful than any standard LED strips and as it happens cheaper too.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32800234629.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.5c2c3330tggOpn&algo_pvid=12489b0a-fe22-4031-9f04-5f544bd68033&algo_expid=12489b0a-fe22-4031-9f04-5f544bd68033-18&btsid=0b0a3f8115863941612113417e1707&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
This is just one of dozens of different types and sizes.
DMX Demo...
Here's the video. Sound sucks, video sucks, quality sucks, but... there it is...
https://youtu.be/K0NBbSvk-zM
Thanks Ray for the video, it's great!
John
AND THERE IS LIFE!!!
There is nothing more beautiful than that !
100% Agree!
and john said on the 3088th day let it light up
Congratulations John! Nothing better than all your Sim efforts coming to life (electronically speaking).
I notice the guarded switches on the left side panel. What are those for? Are you planning for a Steering Tiller?
It looks like you are using OpenCockpit's Rudder modules. If so, be sure to check that there is a slight amount of play between the gear teeth and the gear on the potentiometer. This way it will not be mechanically "loaded", which could cause a pot failure. I have had two such failures due to this problem with my OC Rudders. Other than that, the rudders are great value for the money.
Anyway, great progress on your Sim Project!
Mike
Yep Bernard, and soon I will fly over the Red Sea! LOL!
Here is a tidbit about all the extra days involved; has anyone noticed the switches on the sides? Well, currently they serve 1 of 2 purposes.
First, they're presently being used as on/off switches for the PC power supplies and all the 28v lights, since I haven't wired them up to the proper locations on the MIP and Overhead yet.
Second, once I do wire them up correctly, the side switches for the lights will turn into individual safety power switches. So, they'll have too be on in order for the normal cockpit switches/knobs to control the lights.
Why? Well, if I have any issues with a single light, I can shut it off without the need to shutoff the entire 28V power supply. Kind of a manual circuit breaker function, even though I am using in-line 10AMP circuit breakers on each item.
Luckily, I've learned that if you go away for just a quick bathroom break and the sim is in AP mode, it'll be then an electrical fault will occur. So, those individual circuit breakers should help and there is now the fall back switches. Who knows, maybe someday these switches can be true circuit breakers that work...any ideas from you guys on doing this?
Kind Regards,
GOD!
I mean John rtflol!
Nice John!
Finally got my seat mounted with some working rails thanks to JackPilot's suggestion of using manual car seat rails. Took two sets, 90 degrees off from each other, and I now have forward and back, side to side movement for $65 USD.
Oh, and a butt-kicker attached to the underside for a little extra umph :) Thanks bernard!
welcome 😄 looks great as well those butt kickers will make for a more immersive exprience .. are they run through its own amp and pc etc or they stand alone
Quote from: ame on March 20, 2020, 08:23:12 PMToday I did a quick test of my tacho sensor in the prop sync indicator, to see if it would actually work.
I'm using this tiny motor inside:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000152447766.html
At the end of the shaft is the black and white segmented indicator disc.
At the gearbox I have another disc. This one is half black, half white, on the 'back' side towards the gearbox and motor.
An optical sensor is mounted close to the gearbox, looking at the back of that disc. It can detect the black and white halves which gives me a tachometer signal which I can use to measure the rotation speed.
Between the two discs is an LED. It shines through the white parts of the indicator disc. I was hoping it did not shine back through the tacho disc. It doesn't. :)
![tacho_test.jpg tacho_test.jpg](https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=cf48b168badf584e472e3dfee99c882c&action=dlattach;attach=20009)
In the photo you can see the LED pushed through a hole on the left. It lights up the indicator face and the whole of the front of the body. I'll print the body in black and paint the inside white. The indicator illumination is much more even than it appears in the photo.
On the right is the optical sensor. It is a TCRT5000, which is common and cheap, although I'd like to use an RPR220, which is smaller. It is pointed towards the back of the tacho disc inside. I get clean regular pulses from the output of the sensor. It seems to be unaffected by the white LED.
Next step is to add an H-Bridge to control the motor from an Arduino, and write some code to match the motor speed to the desired speed using the tacho signal.
Oh, I dind't see this one. I made this gauge for a friend of mine some time ago. I made it with a stepper motor, a vid6606 driver for ultra smooth rotation and an Arduino mini, or micro, or something like that :) everything in the package (disc, light, stepper, driver and arduino). So it is just plug and play (with a Lua script through fsuipc).
Arturo.
Quote from: bernard S on April 12, 2020, 07:48:47 AMthose butt kickers will make for a more immersive exprience .. are they run through its own amp and pc etc or they stand alone
Currently powered with a 4 x 50W per channel car amp. 2 channels for each seat's sub, and the other 2 channels for the overhead speakers. Fed via PC outputs. Small change compared to your beast of a sound system!
Very nice work on the Tach and the Fuel Selectors!
Regarding the ButtKicker transducers... You Might try remounting the transducer so it is in the lateral orientation. For seat mounting, I find that this produces/induces better vibration through the seat.
Mike
Quote from: sagrada737 on April 13, 2020, 10:18:21 AMRegarding the ButtKicker transducers... You Might try remounting the transducer so it is in the lateral orientation. For seat mounting, I find that this produces/induces better vibration through the seat.
Bernard had suggested that too, but for space reasons I decided to put it under the seat. I'll re-look at it as I don't feel any vibration in my back which is probably more effective.
You can mount it on the back of the seat. Make a cover so it is not too visible. you will be surprised at the difference in performance and effect.
Mike
Quote from: _alioth_ on April 12, 2020, 03:53:59 PMOh, I dind't see this one. I made this gauge for a friend of mine some time ago. I made it with a stepper motor, a vid6606 driver for ultra smooth rotation and an Arduino mini, or micro, or something like that :) everything in the package (disc, light, stepper, driver and arduino). So it is just plug and play (with a Lua script through fsuipc).
Arturo.
Hi there,
I thought about using a stepper, and I still might. However, I really like the tiny DC motor and gearbox that I found, so I wanted to use it. I will also use an Arduino Pro Mini, but probably as an I2C device.
I also need to pester RayS again for dimensions of the front block and bezel. I like to make things that are similar in shape to the original.
Did you publish your design anywhere?
QuoteI also need to pester RayS again for dimensions of the front block and bezel. I like to make things that are similar in shape to the original.
Pester away... Anything you need I can help :-)
Tomorrow my ARINC429 Development kit arrives from Holt Industries.
Hoping to get a Rockwell-Collins CTL-92 transponder to work.
Glad to see you guys advancing, it's been nothing except FREAKING GREMLINS for me!
Every step of the way has been a nightmare, and all from a system that worked perfectly fine before. The insanity gets crazy; however, not going too quit...yet lol!
John
John I hear you about the gremlins.. I had a few more power gremlins creep in over the past few weeks. Nothing serious and no parts melted but frustrating just the same.
Just plain annoying at this point. Hope to have my gremlins exorcised by tomorrow.
Hey Ray,
Totally agree how annoying the Gremlins can be and it explains why Lego sets are up and coming for me! Worst you can do there is drop a completed set or step (wheelchair wheel for me) on one...ouch!
Call me crazy though and as if I cannot get enough of the Gremlins, I am planning to do a complete upgrade...new SSD drives, Win10, P3Dv4 (will wait on v5 for now), and ProSim737.
What worries me is Win10 and all the hardware drivers. I've only installed Win10 on one of my computers and it's mainly a workstation. Biggest probably there was hardware drivers...
Still, it's all in the name of me being committed the funny farm...lol...I mean in the name of flight simulation. :laugh:
John
This weekend's project:
Aside from flying in an online event hosted by PilotEdge this Saturday, I'll be working on my latest project: a CANBUS Master controller. The blank circuit cards arrived from manufacturing earlier this week and I have one nearly complete.
Quote from: mickc on April 20, 2020, 05:56:07 PMFinally got around to rewiring the NG ACPs from scratch.
Mick, have I told you how much I hate you lately :-P Would love to get my hands on a couple of those! Getting to the point I need to start figuring out my audio. I have the FDS ACP which will have to do for now.
Quote from: mickc on April 20, 2020, 05:56:07 PMFinally got around to rewiring the NG ACPs from scratch.
Mick, can they be used as-is? I have a pair - shudder at having to rewire them.
Thanks.
Kev
Today... I received freight! Thank you, Boy Bruin at Simzation!
Kev
Nope, not the NG ones. They are all digital unlike the classic ones. No ARINC429 either, they use a proprietary multiplexed serial interface to the REU under the floor, so no easy interfacing unfortunately
Holy Cow Kev!
You took a big leap frog jump there! From gauges to the entire back wall, that is AWESOME!
So, who is this Simzation? Info please?
I am very happy for you...😁
John
As my ceiling for the PIT is nearly finished I decided to make a couple of Grimes lights. I've seen various options but decided on the one with a red cover on the back and a push switch. So although I borrowed the overall idea from various websites, the drawings and design are all my own.
I started with a 3D printed body but didn't think it was strong enough, so I machined it out of aluminium tube 50mm Dia x 5mm x 70mm long. The illumination is a 5 watt COB LED panel, which is extremely bright, so I added a 3mm opal diffusing cover at the front. The back cover is held in place by a 3 mm grub screw, so it's easy to remove if I ned to change the LED.
Now I just need to paint the body and wire them up.
The picture shows the type of light I copied.
Joe.
OMG JOE! That looks great!
You better start producing more of these ASAP! Other builders will for sure want to buy them.
Looks like this is the year cockpit building goes super high tech and those hard to get items will no longer be an issue. Joe will eventually make them all....
John
Joe, those look great!
Quote from: blueskydriver on April 27, 2020, 07:17:49 PMHoly Cow Kev!
You took a big leap frog jump there! From gauges to the entire back wall, that is AWESOME!
So, who is this Simzation? Info please?
I am very happy for you...😁
John
John, Simzation is in Holland, and they sell OEM parts when they have them. On most things they are not cheap, but quality and service is exceptional. For example, under my pholosophy of "if I touch it every flight or it is parked in front of my face constantly, it shall either work and feel like OEM, or be OEM", I just purchased OEM MASTER CAUTION, FIRE WARN, and sixpacks for both sides from them. Believe it or not, they cost more than that entire rear bulkhead. The bulkead was unbelievably inexpensive, and is 100% complete down to the O2 masks, fire gloves, gear pins, and FDAS system on the cockpit door. Even flashlights and jumpseats.
http://www.simzation.com
Point of contact is Boy Bruin - a very nice gentleman. I can't say enough good things about these guys.
BTW, that bulkhead shipped via ocean last June and arrived in Sep or Oct, and has been sitting in a buddy's warehouse for months. Extremely well packed.
Kev
you have working FDAS ?
Quote from: blueskydriver on April 28, 2020, 04:39:50 AMOMG JOE! That looks great!
You better start producing more of these ASAP! Other builders will for sure want to buy them.
Looks like this is the year cockpit building goes super high tech and those hard to get items will no longer be an issue. Joe will eventually make them all....
John
Thank you John,
The main point about these parts are as you say, they are generally not available; or they can command a price for something that needs a lot of work to make it look presentable.
In fact as I started making these a UK seller was selling one for £65.00, which I'm sure is not bad for an OEM product, but it would have needed stripping, painting and converting to 12 volt. So not that interesting to me.
I know many guys on the forum only consider OEM but I'm not that fussy, if it looks and more importantly works, that will do for me.
If I do get any enquires I'll work out a reasonable price.
Best
Joe.
Quote from: bernard S on April 28, 2020, 06:36:26 AMyou have working FDAS ?
Yes, it should work, Bernard. Keypad goes directly to the FDAS module, and there's a connection to the cockpit door control on the pedestal from the FDAS module.
Quote from: mickc on April 27, 2020, 04:55:11 PMNope, not the NG ones. They are all digital unlike the classic ones. No ARINC429 either, they use a proprietary multiplexed serial interface to the REU under the floor, so no easy interfacing unfortunately
Great... Just fabulous.
Hey Everyone,
Getting closer to "Back in Service", here is my latest pic...gotta mount the projectors and align the screen correction app.
John
God I wish I could go with overhead projectors and a huge screen like that. Gorgeous!
Here is a brief update on my sim. Making progress. Panel has been fitted to basic frame and rudder pedals are now underneath, where they belong. I did not like the electric trim/AP disconnect I built so I designed, printed and wired a different one. Still not 100% satisfied but it is an improvement. All the subpanels now fit but my jig saw died so am on hiatus for a few days till the new one arrives and I can finish cutting out the panel for the bottom row of switches and guages.
Steve
PS- bit and bought P3Dv5. Would not launch with Windows 8.1 (at least on my machine) so I went back to Win 10. It uses DX12 and requires the latest media creation tool. Having some issues calibrating my throttles but otherwise am getting things to work.
@n4208t - Update FSUIPC only 9.99 for previous owners, and makes calibration way better. Careful with V5 though lots of "INVISIBLE WALLS AND RANDOM CRASHES"
Waiting for a hot fix this week.
Trev
Thanks Trev. Had already done that. Finally got the throttles calibrated but I had to invert one of them to do so and I have never had to do that before so need to figure out why. Now working on the rest.
Quote from: n4208t on April 30, 2020, 03:15:10 AMFinally got the throttles calibrated but I had to invert one of them
Inverted connection on the pot itself is usually the culprit.
Nice garage! And the collimators are sweet!
whos trash bin have you been dumpster diving in ? 😂
Quote from: blueskydriver on April 29, 2020, 06:15:21 AMHey Everyone,
Getting closer to "Back in Service", here is my latest pic...gotta mount the projectors and align the screen correction app.
John
Looking good John!
@kattx, thanks. Glad you liked the garage (and, you know, the collimators too, lol)
@bernard, hmm, not telling. Haha.
Almost finish a real Narco DME unit for my home cockpit.
This one was really a nightmare, but I wanted to use the dme with this genuine displays.
Arturo.
I have one of these...
What do you need to share your code? My first born? A house? :-)
Quote from: RayS on May 05, 2020, 08:06:02 PMI have one of these...
What do you need to share your code? My first born? A house? :-)
Yes. A house is ok. I need more space for the cockpit :P
The problem is not only the code. I had to:
-make some additional electronics outside the box. Real system has a computer box that send data. It is not posible to use only arduino, becasue you need to manage more current in some cases.
-Do some mods inside, because it needed a 7v power supply and it generated
a lot of heat with quite high current. I have made some minor changes to operate it with 5v, and replace some components to make it easier interface with arduino. The logic part of the circuit needs very constant and clean 5v, and the lights (digits and bulbs) were regulated inside the dme, with an old and very hot system. I am powering the logic part with 5v. And the lights through a pwm system. But I have to read the dimmer pot with arduino and send the pwm power out of the box.
Perhaps, with time, I could public the hardware and code I have made for it.
The good thing about the narco 195 is that is easy to find the mantenience manual with hundred of pages explaining everything about the unit. Diagrams.. componentes, everything.
Heres it is:
http://www.mikeg.net/hobbies/aviation/avionics/combined/Narco%20DME-195%20Combined.pdf (http://www.mikeg.net/hobbies/aviation/avionics/combined/Narco%20DME-195%20Combined.pdf)
In the page 243-244 you have all the diagram of the dme. It is great documented.
I needed 19 wires to interface all the functions.
I have spent more than 100 hours understanding the diagram, building the electroncis and coding...
But I am not good at electronics. If I can do it, almost everyone can!
Arturo.
i found a screw that i dont know what it goes too
I'm surprised it took you this long to realize, we've all known you have had a screw loose for years now :P lol.
I've just been working on tiding up cables and putting pc's into a server rack. Its something I have wanted to do for a while now.
ahh thanks Gary yeap that could be it ..😇😇
Just a couple of pics on how the new sim is progressing. My carpenter friend has gotten so busy I am doing this myself so I decided to use a heavy duty bed frame on wheels as the initial basis for the floor. Moving it into a different room, too, so (of course) I have to take the whole thing apart again to get it to fit through the door. :-\
The bed frame is a great idea !!
Simple, cheap and perfect for the job
Quote from: Garys on May 09, 2020, 01:38:35 AMI'm surprised it took you this long to realize, we've all known you have had a screw loose for years now :P lol.
I think we were all waiting for someone to say this.... only Gary had the nerve to do so... LOL.
lol thats actually funny ha ha not funny odd.. have know "our" Gary for a few years he the chap stuck a forklift in my sim butt lolol was kind enough to autograph it ... think he has the pic ?
:) All in good fun.
Yep that was years ago now. This is what happens when you give factory equipment to an incompetent fool and say here you go, have fun!
Quote from: _alioth_ on May 06, 2020, 01:35:36 AMQuote from: RayS on May 05, 2020, 08:06:02 PMI have one of these...
What do you need to share your code? My first born? A house? :-)
Yes. A house is ok. I need more space for the cockpit :P
The problem is not only the code. I had to:
...
If anyone is interested, Arturo, Ray and myself are putting together a design to drive the DME 195 display.
I have started documenting it in the Tutorial forum here:
https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/index.php?topic=7962.msg57246
Unfortunately only the original poster can add information there, we will discuss the details in the Builders' Forum:
https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/index.php?topic=7964.0
The goal is to make something to control the display without having to modify the display unit internally.
Hey Everyone,
Wanted to show my ugly, but adjustable projector mounting. Yep, it needs a paint job; however, if you look beyond that you'll see the metal slot brackets are movable left/right, back/forth and up/down.
Why? Well, even though I measured everything based on throw rates and tilt above the screen height, I wanted the extra ability to move things now or in the future, if need be. Like if I upgrade to 4K-6k projectors someday...lol...shhh, is SimLady reading this?
Anyway, between the wood base and the brackets I should be able to use the same projector mounts themselves and just make adjustments at that point.
Okay, should I paint it white or black? Speaking of white or black! When my sim was in the garage I painted the ceiling black to reduce reflections from the ceiling. Now, with the hangar ceiling being white I am seeing things differently, yes intended pun...lol!
Seriously, the hangar ceiling is nearly 3ft higher then the garage was and the white makes everything seem much brighter, but not harsh. I know it sounds funny, but it seems like a soft box light versus a harsh direct light. It just seems like a better ambient light effect that darkened sim interiors lack.
John
Hi John,
Congratulations on getting your projectors mounted.
I like your setup. At this point in your Sim build, it is good to keep things such that you can make changes. Since your Sim is static, you should have no problems moving your projectors around to get the orientation the way you want it.
Typically, these "short throw" projectors with a throw ratio of about 0.5 will project the display about 11" below the center of the lens. Line up your Center projector first, then fix its position. At that point you can see where the display is on the other projectors. Depending on the total display wrap-around in degrees, you will need to have the Left projector and the Right projector offset from the Center display by the same amount. Then fix the Left and Right projectors in position respectfully.
At that point, you are ready to do your warping/blending calibration. What warping software are you using? Have you done this before? If not, it can be a bit confusing, so don't hesitate to ask questions.
Once you get your projectors in the placement you want, then you can always go back and perfect things. Also, keep in mind that projectors generate heat, so make sure you install a baffle on the projectors air flow output, such that it redirects the hot air away from the nearby projector.
Mike
i had help installing my windows end result they are scratched right across pilot eye point on both.. no they can not be buffed out damage was caused by a crane hook and numnuts (help) not paying attention ..well replacements 13k plus each at this stage of the game girly would have my balls on a plate if i threw amex at it..lol
so to this end i have broken the first layer of glass and i am going to fix them
OMG I would love to see how you can fix them, if you can. I have one crack through one layer on my FO side. If you know of a way to fix it. I can't wait to see it.
For Mick at first i thought it was just two layers of glass but its actually 5 layers x3 glass and x2 pvb it may not go foggy after all will have to see ... this is how to do it and tools required
you need do this from outside looking in not pilot side looking out
1 big balls cause you need to take a hammer to it gentle wacks
2..once yiu have a cracks remove enough glass to get a cold chisel in there
3...rubber mallet and tippy tappy till all glass til 1st layer removed
4... set fire to it to remove clear laminate its about 10mm thick make sure yiu dont stay in same place too long or yiu will crack next layer of glass they only 1 to 2 mm thick
5... clean
6... put in place and bobs your uncle
NOTE : Do burning of laminate outside fumes are toxic in fact do it all outside its messy
So much for "Joe Exotic" drama, it has nothing on the new mini series:
"BREAKING BAD WITH BERNARD!"
As he would say, get the popcorn ready...lol!
Please record videos and not just pics this time, because it's something we all want too see you do!
GoPro Cameras are cheap.
Good Luck,
John
now the cooking
down to glass now clean up
The good news.....
COVID-19 certified not to survive through that process!
Fred K
too true there is more to this than butta bloody bing ..glad i have a spare set ..will see if i can fix it
Quick update on my build. Pilot's seat is mounted (out of a 2001 Honda CRV). Throttle quadrant was trimmed to fit but still needs some adjustment. Need more grinding wheels and screws so off to Home Depot again in a bit.
Realized that the next step needs to be to rewire the thing and get it flying again and make sure all of the previous wiring I did of the flight controls, rudders and brakes is still intact and working. I can't cover the flight controls up or put in the copilot seat because I will lose access to the internal flight control and throttle quadrant wiring once that is done. So, one computer and one of the small monitors going to be moved downstairs today after paint dries.
Looking good!
Thanks John
now thats rather efficient
got really vexed with window and polishing it so took a bfh to it .so...a do over just as well i have x2 sets
I'm building an F/A-18 Simulator (Don't tell my wife!)...
However, my ground maneuvering skills might need some work....
I have a full set of F-18 panels on order. Might be able to squeeze it into the hangar next to the 1900d....
Looks like its trying to mate with the ground cart :laugh: :laugh:
Looks like fighters are making a comeback...Skibo -F16, Ray -F18 and who's next...okay not me, but I bet someone will hit the F14 soon....
John
i am considering a dcs p 47 .. early stages i want to blow xxxx up lol anyone got plans ?
it can be done
Quote from: blueskydriver on June 05, 2020, 09:48:37 AMLooks like fighters are making a comeback...Skibo -F16, Ray -F18 and who's next...okay not me, but I bet someone will hit the F14 soon....
John
I'm making faster progress on other stuff at the moment.
Important to have enough stuff running to stay flying or interest falls away.
Most of the F16 stuff I have to grab from Europe so makes sense to buy a lot at a time and save on shipping.
I did manage to pick up a PFC Cirrus II Pro yoke from a very generous member here as well as a PFC dual ruccer setup form another member, so screwing around with air manager to get a light twin panel up and running while I work the other stuff. Air Manger and a RPi or two looks like it will be very helpful.
Wish my 3D printer worked well as there are some gauge bezels I want to print
What's up with your 3D printer John?
Ditto. What's up with your printer? And hey, let me know which bezels you are looking for. I have printed some extras and also got some extras when I bought the KA sub-panels from Trooping.
Quote from: blueskydriver on June 05, 2020, 03:24:21 PMWhat's up with your 3D printer John?
Quote from: n4208t on June 05, 2020, 04:31:57 PMDitto. What's up with your printer? And hey, let me know which bezels you are looking for. I have printed some extras and also got some extras when I bought the KA sub-panels from Trooping.
First few runs it printed about half and then had a ton of holes. I aligned it again and then the nozzle clogged in the middle of a print. Had plastic coming out the top.
I have cleaned it out while hot and replaced the nozzle 4 times, it just keeps doing the same thing.
I found these bezels on thingaverse Bezels (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2690541#files)and thought they might look nice. Was looking at the six pack plus the two VORs to start.
What is your printer model? Once they are going they generally keep going, but some models are more finicky than others.
If you want to build some instruments might I suggest my design here:
https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/index.php?topic=7836.msg56228#msg56228
The bezels look fabulous when printed in matt black PLA, but of course they can be printed in any colour and painted.
Quote from: ame on June 05, 2020, 06:42:20 PMWhat is your printer model? Once they are going they generally keep going, but some models are more finicky than others.
If you want to build some instruments might I suggest my design here:
https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/index.php?topic=7836.msg56228#msg56228
The bezels look fabulous when printed in matt black PLA, but of course they can be printed in any colour and painted.
Its a Geeetech A30.
Interesting stuff you built. Do you think the dual stepper could be used in a Dual RPM or Tach gauge for Twins?
Quote from: jskibo on June 05, 2020, 07:05:43 PMIts a Geeetech A30.
Interesting stuff you built. Do you think the dual stepper could be used in a Dual RPM or Tach gauge for Twins?
I expect so. I was trying to come up with the simplest design I could. Basically the 3D-printed plate for the stepper motors can be modified so that the spindles appear at any location (assuming there is room for the bodies of the motors behind the plate). The twin needle design you see there has the spindles at the outside edge, but it could be redesigned so that they are just either side of centre, or top and bottom, or top and middle.
If there's a specific gauge you have in mind post a picture and I'll think about how I would do it. Or download the source and modify it yourself! It's open source.
I decided that the bulk of components for the gauge would be the same for any design (bezel, window, spacer, LED, nuts, bolts) and the stepper plate would be different if required. I also deliberately avoided specifying any drivers or software, leaving that as an exercise for the reader. :)
About the Geeetech, what have you tried?
What filament are you using, and what temperature are you using for your hot end? I'm using PLA at 200 °C, with the plate at 60 °C.
Is your bed level, and is the Z zero position correctly set?
Once the hot end is up to temperature, with the Z axis up a few cm can you push the filament through by hand, or by the front-panel or software controls?
I didn't find anything bad about that printer model in the forums, but it does seem that people spend a lot of time on calibration, and under-extrusion seems to be a problem.
Quote from: jskibo on June 05, 2020, 07:52:25 PMSomething like these, with a left and right needle that are on top of each other and center mounted. Should be the normal 3 1/8th sizing so would stepper fit?
![382213A3-5D50-4B20-920A-6C9750FE2D80.jpeg 382213A3-5D50-4B20-920A-6C9750FE2D80.jpeg](https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=cf48b168badf584e472e3dfee99c882c&action=dlattach;attach=20691)
![B1373940-5F4B-4C45-9E6E-0F8E00DFE42D.jpeg B1373940-5F4B-4C45-9E6E-0F8E00DFE42D.jpeg](https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=cf48b168badf584e472e3dfee99c882c&action=dlattach;attach=20693)
Ah! Yes, the basic design can support a dual concentric stepper:
https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/index.php?topic=7836.msg56227#msg56227
I should have linked to the beginning of that thread. Read the whole thing for my design ideas.
Hey John. I do have some spare bezels and I will dig them up and throw them in that little box for Monday. Are all the bezels you are looking for the 3 inch or are you looking for any of the 2 inch too?
And I agree with ame. Your printer is fine, the devil is in the details to get it tuned, tightened, leveled, and make sure your slicer settings are good. The more info you can provide (and pics of the problem) the easier it is for folks to help you get it going again.
Quote from: n4208t on June 06, 2020, 02:30:25 AMHey John. I do have some spare bezels and I will dig them up and throw them in that little box for Monday. Are all the bezels you are looking for the 3 inch or are you looking for any of the 2 inch too?
And I agree with ame. Your printer is fine, the devil is in the details to get it tuned, tightened, leveled, and make sure your slicer settings are good. The more info you can provide (and pics of the problem) the easier it is for folks to help you get it going again.
Thanks Steve. I think just 3" at this point.
I will have to dig the printer out of the corner and dust it off. Its been more than a year since I messed with it. Had considered tossing it in the street at one point.
I had originally bought it to make the pieces for an MPCNC router MPCNC Router (https://shop.v1engineering.com/products/mostly-printed-cnc-parts-bundle)
I ripped the guts out of my A30 and put in an MKS-Gen2 board and ran a calibration on all the steppers. The driver board voltage was way higher than it should have been.
Still get stringing but that's a matter of getting the temps right.
Printers are fun but can be a real pain in the ass.
If it has been a year since you printed your pla May be screwed unless you kept it in ziplock with silica.
Trev
Trevor has nailed it. They are wonderful machines that are a pain in the ass and need frequent upkeep and massage. I found the spares and am printing you some of those Cessna 3 inchers. I will shoot you some pics when done and throw them all in the accessories box for Monday.
It is hard to diagnose 3D printer problems without getting into specifics but we have all been there. Looks like there are also multiple models of the A30 depending on how old it is. You said you changed nozzles several times. Did you clean out the hot end completely and make sure there was nothing left in it before putting the new nozzle in? Also, when you put the new nozzle in, I always really tighten the heatbreak down (gently) with a wrench and then cold tighten the new nozzle up against the heatbreak and then back it off about 1/4 to 1/2 turn. THEN I heat up the nozzle and use the correct wrench or socket to tighten down and seat the nozzle firmly up against the heatbreak.
Depending on the type of hotend you have I have also had issues in the past (on my Tevo Tornado) with making sure that the Bowden tubing is seated correctly in the hotend. This was an issue, in particular, with E3Dv6 clones where the spacing between the end of the bowden tube and the heatbreak was causing problems.
Anyway, keep at it. You will get it going again and there are lots of folks here and on the various 3D print forums who can help. BTW- the best YouTube video I found for cleaning a jammed Geetech A30 Nozzle and hotend was actually in German but it is so good that you can still follow it easily. The only thing he did that I would not do was to end up drilling out the heatbreak. If it were me and it were that plugged up, I would just replace the heatbreak because there is no way you can drill it and maintain whatever clearances were there.
Quote from: bernard S on June 05, 2020, 11:46:05 AMit can be done
Fantastic job Bernard. The amount of work you put in to get that window down to clear glass is just insane but the results are spectacular. Amazing how those thick those windows are.
Quote from: n4208t on June 06, 2020, 09:05:43 AMTrevor has nailed it. They are wonderful machines that are a pain in the ass and need frequent upkeep and massage. I found the spares and am printing you some of those Cessna 3 inchers. I will shoot you some pics when done and throw them all in the accessories box for Monday.
I have a Malyan M200 which worked out of the box and has been going great for a long time. I recently (after 3 years) changed the Bowden tube and one end clamp, but overall I have been extremely happy with it.
For building flight simulator parts it can't be beat. You have to pay attention to the model you are using and make sure it is printed with the correct strength for its application. Also, a bit of post-processing can make the parts look really good.
I have also found it very useful for printing jigs. I can draw up and print a frame with holes in precise locations, which I can then use as a drilling jig for other parts. Much easier and more accurate than making a jig by hand.
Great idea about the jigs. I have been printing parts for my sim but never thought about using it in that way. Thanks!
I'll dig out my A30 in a couple weeks and play with it (in the middle of an MBA class that's kicking my ass).
I have new metal feeder upgrade for it as well as the auto leveler I need to figure out how to use. Bought them when I was trying to get it running.
I put a Bondtech (clone) extruder and an EzABL Pro auto leveling system on my Tornado last summer and love them both.
Got a HGS panel...
Bought a C310 Panel Eyebrow. Close enough to a Seneca V and $65
This is why I really love this thread, you guys just keep me motivated! Everything you do helps not only myself, but it also helps everyone else.
Believe it or not, the CNC machine I have finally got moved to a better location where I can get to it. Also, all my 3D printers are colocated next to each other now; whereas, they were to spread out before.
Next, I've been drooling over the idea of ATC Setup with a curved screen and 3 projectors, using a 9'x16' screen that I already have. Just gotta figure out where to put it...lol! Someday when I move away from the cockpit sim, I'll just do ATC to stay connected to the flight sim hobby.
Finally, does anyone know if someone has built a large ATC curved screen setup or multi LCD screens for Tower View before? Not on the commercial side, but on the hobbyist side?
John
i already have done that john full atc set up lol
John you have to get up early to get ahead of quite a few here :)
Yep, John these early birds always beating me...lol!
Bernard, post some pics and do a YT video for me please...
John
Worldflight Australlia has had that setup for years. Tower controller has 3 projector view and TRACON is setup with 4 scopes.
Awesome Stuff. I have seen pics of Bernards setup. It's MINT.
Trev
Thanks Trevor, I will search for WF Australia's setup.
In the mean time, it'd be nice too see Bernard's in operation...hint-hint Bernard. Make a video of it all for me/us!
John
john its not or can be difficult to do..do you plan comms between each station via phones or headsets do you plan to be able to talk to flight deck directly (so atc is atc) and how as in unfamilar and asking taxi directions etc it comes down to how do you plan to use this as it can easliy become a white elephant do you have enough people to come and play ? my atc area is is 20x30 and on 2nd level of building
bear in mind that when working at tower you mainly on feet so positioning of projectors are important as not to cast shadows etc plan for averagebof 6ft 3 person and all will be good .. consider height of tower for view how much immersion .. i.e are binoculars required (and that whole nother ball game ) as you will need high end ones or things become a blurr
are you marrying it into vatsim pe etc who supplies your tower view. how many pcs you comfortable running tower view will require hi end as looks crap otherwise.. how many stations how and what do those stations look like ? i even have arrival and departure boards with clicky clack tied in ( thats down stairs) etc stc whist you at it are you adding ops ? wx etc etc
this can easily become an expensive vanity project just saying
Looks good Ray
yeah Ray saucy what are yiu doing for a HUDs please
You can use LUA scripts in DCS World to send displays and data to external devices. Each system has it's own 'hook' and you can specify the hook, and then the device to send it to.
I had a nice home-made HUD for my old F-16 project and I'll use the same methodology for the F18.
have done nothing ... nada ..zero..sfa..zero..nought..zip.. not anything
Ordered 3 refurbished mid range Dell Intel I5, Win10 computers for the sim to replace all my old Dell P4 WinXP ones.
For ProSim 2.0 you need at least Win7 and .NET 4.7.2; whereas, anything under 2.0 works on XP still.
Funny thing is, I ordered them through Walmart of all places. $300 each, cannot build them myself for that price...
John
After a bunch of setbacks I am making some decent progress on my sim again. The pot on the dual rudders died so I ordered a Hall Sensor only to find out the shaft was too short. Have a long shaft pot coming from Desktop Aviator to fix that. Then the dual yokes bit the dust. They started binding (they were probably 30 years old) and got worse with more use and lubrication. Spoke to the main tech at PFC (nice guy) and he said one of the shafts was probably slightly bent and they do not work on them anymore but, when they did, the only thing they could do was to rebuild and refurbish them. So, out they came. I will strip out some of the parts and sell them (eg - the yokes) but the unit is worthless.
I was able to find a PFC Saab yoke on E-Bay and got it so, for now, it is a single yoke setup but at least it is working. (is this now a Sing Air with the Saab yoke?) Three of the 4 sub-panels are wired and working. The Captains right side panel is 90 percent done and I only have to finish wiring the gear lights and then mount the panel.
I decided not to sell my FI turboprop engine gauges but to go ahead and mount them (and a custom circuit breaker panel I had Ruscool make me several years ago) on a 45 degree angle from the main panel. It is not realistic, but I think it looks pretty good and it is functional and beats looking at the tiny engine gauges on those 10.4 inch monitors of the G1000.
Had trouble getting the front side windows right so I 3D printed them. This morning I mounted the lower fuel panel and the front of the glareshield with the annunciator panel. I lowered it a little (purposely) as I had raised the seating for comfort. The monitor is only there for testing.
So, overall, it is moving forward. Not perfect, but not looking bad. Lots to go still.
Steve
Added another CANBUS LRU. This one is the Master Caution/Warn annunciators
Even got the lights to fade in/out as on the real flight deck.
https://youtu.be/5GdNv38EvBw
That is very cool Ray. Nice programming.
Wow, that is impressive. I don't think I have seen a sim do that before except the Level Ds at the airlines.
That is way cool.
With the Master Caution/Warning lights under my belt, time to tackle the lower annunciator panel for the Beech 1900D.
Circuit was breadboarded roughly 2 weeks ago and went to manufacturing Sunday night. (Really quick turnaround on the PCB!)
Loaded up the card tonight, loaded the controller with the CANBUS template code so this weekend will be programming all the lights... all 56 of them.
Hello gents! After a lot of real life stuff getting in my way, career change, and good stuff like that I'm starting to work on my 737 again. Will be switching to prosim as the software i had been using (iFly) isn't compatible with Prepar3d v5 and they have no intention of supporting the new Microsoft option.
This weekend I've been organizing my stuff and my first project will be completing the assembly of the overhead. I've built the frame out of aluminum and want to reinforce it and start the wiring.
Speaking of which, if anyone knows of someone that has a prosim license that they don't use anymore let me know!
Kind of in a lull here, so I built a giant box.
(It's for a friend who needs all his helicopter parts shipped out of my garage :-) )
Ray, you could have painted it WAAAAY COOL, S76 Parts With Remove before Flight tag on it :)
Was bored, so broke out the ladder and give her a clean as she is a dirty biaatch!
Picked up a nice ASPEN EFD1000 for the nice folks at Ruscool. This thing looks impressive
Also managed to score a lot of Flight Illusions gauges at a great price, coming from Europe, will post when they arrive.
The Light Twin / Single sim is slowly coming together.
Quote from: phil744 on July 03, 2020, 05:45:07 PMWas bored, so broke out the ladder and give her a clean as she is a dirty biaatch!
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Long time no see Phil...where are you at (besides sweeping a perfectly clean gizmo)
Looking good Steve!
I was inspired by Trevor's "Donation Failure" platform on Twitch so decided to roll my own.
1. Currently has over 200 failures, ranked by severity
2. Works in X-Plane. (Wiring exists for P3D/FSX but isn't enabled yet)
3. Severity levels can be changed/added, without source code changes
4. Unprocessed donations are retained so restarts won't clear them
5. Failures are truly random. First failure in each flight is never the same
6. Failures can be auto-disabled below X Altitude. However they are queued so once above the 'Safe' altitude, all hell could break loose...
Severity Levels:
1. "Just ASAP it, Jim! Damn! Do I have to tell you everything?"
2. "Where's the QRH, Jim?"
3. "We better land, Jim..."
4. "Well Jim, we had a good run."
It's currently "Functional", but needs some code cleanup and interface cleanup.
The workflow:
1. Donation Event: Streamlabs Chatbot sees, and inserts the donation record into a backend database via a Python script
2. My App, "Beech House Buster" sees the new donation and randomizes a new failure from the database based on donation amount. (Queue screaming in the background...)
3. Once the failure is processed, it is marked as "Processed" so it doesn't repeat.
4. The Donor record is also marked as "Processed"
5. A Twitch Chat message is sent to the chat window with what is about to fail.
6. Hilarity ensues.
Here's the app. It's crude but will look better as I clean it up and add more elements over the next couple of days.
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Still working out some minor kinks with the code, and a few minor facelifts on the UI.
Time for an ACARS printer!
Glad to see folks are still getting things done during the summertime, where normally it's vacation time.
My good news for the sim is Karen and I pulled out all the electrical wiring from the garage ceiling. 300 feet of flexible metal conduit (FMC) all screwed down at every 18 inches, so a lot of screws to remove, and mixed it in with insulation that I am allergic too. WOO HOO!
Still, it's worth all the effort because this is the 12 circuits at 20amp each dedicated for the sim and my computer room items that are now in the hangar/shed. We also pulled all 12 AFCI Breakers to move them into the new circuit breaker box in the hangar...
Lastly, it's not for the sim per se, but it's what we learned from installing the Mr Cool 3-ton mini-split Air Conditioner unit in the hangar. The knowledge we gained led to us installing the same exact unit type in our house in the lower level (bi-level). These units are just amazing!
If you're thinking about heating/cooling take a look at a DIY mini-split unit (no matter the brand name). It's night and day over standard HVAC, plus the big bonus is no dusty piping system blowing dirt around or onto your simulator....
John
Got the CNC machined parts for the ACARS printer in, test fitting looks good :)
rather tasty printer is a pain
Looks good!
I've had this thing laying around for about 5 years. Figured it was high time to get it interfaced. It doesn't do much, other than some common commands in X-Plane that I usually do on a keyboard.
Found a great API interface using C#. I've interfaced both FSX/P3D and now X-Plane and I have to say, working with X-Plane datarefs and commands is SO much easier than FSUIPC....
A few pics of the updates to my sim as of this morning. Windscreen has been completed. Not spectacular but better than I could have done in wood. New gauges have been mounted and are working in the throttle quadrant panel and the left co-pilots panel. Big shout out to Custom Sim Parts who worked with me to design and build these gauges for an incredible reasonable price. Tom Kaminski has been great and I am ordering three other things from him.
Trying to figure out how to mount the partial roof/headliner and still scratching my head on the glareshield but it is starting to come together. Using an arduino and Mobiflight for the new gauges and took me a bit to get the hang of how to program them but I think I got it down now.
Wish I was being paid for all of the mistakes I have made. :-)
Steve
Quote from: n4208t on August 17, 2020, 06:47:47 AMTrying to figure out how to mount the partial roof/headliner and still scratching my head on the glareshield but it is starting to come together.
Consider framing an exo-skeleton "box" around your cockpit and fasten your interior liners and overhead etc. to it. That is pretty much the way I did mine. Very simple to construct. My 737 OH panel probably weighs about 50 pounds, so I needed something sturdy enough to support it all.
Of course it looks like a box from the outside, but it does resemble the real 737 interior on the inside. Most commercial simulators are essentially just that.
Fred K
Thanks guys. Had not thought of that.
Use Aluminum if possible. No welding just bolts.
learn to weld it will be your best friend
On a monster like your 74 ....maybe right!
:D
Very nice work Steve! The cockpit detail around the MIP area is excellent. I'm looking forward to seeing more of your progress. Your GA Sim is truly an inspiration!
As a side note... Someday (after I complete my 737 Sim), I would like to build a full-scale KingAir or perhaps a AS350 Eurocopter helicopter. I flew the AS350 for a time in Japan, so having a helicopter Sim would be a lot of fun.
Jack... Your 737 Sim is amazing. I really like the Galley addition. Very realistic! Any photos of the cockpit detail?
Keep up the good work guys!
Mike
In 20 Minutes Last night, I successfully converted the KingAir over to MSFS 2020, Unfortunately because of the Big BOBO Microsoft and ASOBO Made, any software that makes interaction with Simconnect causes a massive Framerate Drop (60 to 12 Frames). This is supposed to be fixed in short order, but the long and short of it is at the end of the day (Very few things weren't working properly at the end of the transition) FSUIPC7 works a treat, if it would only play nice with Simconnect.
Check my Twitch VOD for instructions and to see how I accomplished this.
https://www.twitch.tv/cockpitbuilders
Thanks everyone for keeping this thread alive! Crazy this is the 968th post! You all make my day everyday here...
As for my Sim, I got my old Fly Engravity v1 CDU and old FDS CDU (keyboard emulator and composite video input version) working with ProSim737 v2 CDU. Took a bit, but both are on a single client PC. Made a step-by-step video on how to do this as well.
Speaking of step-by-step videos, it'd be nice if we had a place to put them for everyone to view. Then, if anyone wants to make a video on a sim setup subject, they could, but we'd all have to agree on a standard format to follow.
Like, having an intro, the main point(s), and a conclusion, as well as time lengths (say 15mins long, and if it requires to be done in parts, those parts can only be 15min each).
What do you think; anyone interested in doing this?
Next up for me, going to get vPilot working again. As a footnote, I am still running FSX, but plan to finally install P3D v4 that I purchased when it first came out, but didn't install. Might even get P3D v5 yet...why? Uh...I guess it's my good old OCD INSANITY! LOL!
Afterwards, going to purchase a whole new system unit (PC) and get MSFS 2020 running. I see no reason to use anything from my current PC; instead, going to leave it alone and have two complete setups running. That way I can still fly one while going through the MSFS 2020 setups on the other.
Happy Flying Everyone!
John
John..IMHO you are making your life very complicated :D
Hey Jack, just means never a dull moment...lol!
John
You also must have very deep pockets.... :laugh: 8)
Well, they're never deep enough Joe, just never deep enough...lol!
Switched from using iFly CBE to Prosim today. Got tired of trying to script and force things to work...that and iFly is planning a re-purchase option if you want to upgrade to P3D v5, and no upgrade path to MSFS 2020...so instead of throwing more money to them, going to go with what everyone else is using...quite the investment!!
Not done today but has been a work in progress for quite a while.
Interfacing a real Fire Panel as SimA (and Prosim) model all the functions and controls.
First a good clean up and repaint of the backlit panel. Then, all 28v bulbs go and are replaced by 4.5v "led bulbs".
All will be plugged into an FDS IO Sysboard card
Some annunciators (circuit type1) require inverted leds as they have diodes the opposite way from circuit type 2.
To make it short, a hell of a project...but fun.
(John knows that crazy module :D )
PS the push to lit function could be emulated, I'll pass that one though!
WOW JACK! That puppy looks so nice, glad you got it setup Plus, it's awesome still seeing you tearing OEM things apart...post a video once it's up and running.
John
Hey Everyone,
Update for my sim, I pulled out the SimKits USBGauge that's been working for 10 years. The servo sort of went bad...it was moving, but inaccurately; good thing I had another HiTec HS-311 Servo on the shelf...lucky me...lol!
Only issue I had was re-installing it, since you really need 2 people, one to hold and one to insert the screws. However, got it in with a clamp and some patience; well, the patience only came after a dozen curse words from dropping it beforehand. Good thing I didn't break it right after just tearing it a part; maybe, I just got lucky again.
What's that saying "good or bad luck comes in 3's" Hopefully, that's the case for me tonight with having the right servo and being clumsy by dropping the thing without breaking it. Whatever the 3rd luck item will be, I'll happily take it. Offsets all those bad Gremlin nights throughout the years...
John
A cautionary tale: installing MSFS2020 on a system with FlyElise warping software.
I have Microsoft updates completely disabled so my copy was still on v1809.
To install from the Microsoft store I had to update windows.
Lovely....
After getting all the latest updates installed I discovered that the Warping software was now inop, requiring an update to FlyElise as well.
My copy was an older copy (if it works, don't fix it!)
I was well beyond the support terms for an update to the warping software so I had to renew it to the tune of $251.00 US.
It took a few hours to exhaust my supply of swear words which is a difficult task in itself; having served in the Marines I have quite an extensive vocabulary.
Sometimes I forget that this is an expensive hobby.
Quote from: RayS on August 29, 2020, 05:05:19 PMSometimes I forget that this is an expensive hobby. Microsoft will (stitch you up like a kipper) every. single. time.
I am only going to add my 2 cents once . why is it mostly everybody is so fixated on 2020 .... its no where near ready for flightdeck builders simple as that yet people moan trying to fit a square peg in round hole !!! 12 mths my thumb suck if you have to have it then large lcd single desktop play unit....thats my 2 cents spent..lol
Quote from: RayS on August 29, 2020, 05:05:19 PMA cautionary tale: installing MSFS2020 on a system with FlyElise warping software.
I have Microsoft updates completely disabled so my copy was still on v1809.
To install from the Microsoft store I had to update windows.
Lovely....
After getting all the latest updates installed I discovered that the Warping software was now inop, requiring an update to FlyElise as well.
My copy was an older copy (if it works, don't fix it!)
I was well beyond the support terms for an update to the warping software so I had to renew it to the tune of $251.00 US.
It took a few hours to exhaust my supply of swear words which is a difficult task in itself; having served in the Marines I have quite an extensive vocabulary.
Sometimes I forget that this is an expensive hobby.
I bought it on Steam, for that reason. Microsoft wanted strange things to be able to install it. So got a refund, and went to the steam version. Still needed 1909 windows though, wasn't that bad. but least your windows is up to date an your warping software LOL.
I think it's going to happen sooner than you think Bernard. They've announced an update within seven days that will fix the issue with Simconnect stealing frame rates.
Which means that Trevor will have it running his deck within a week.
That's just my 2 Cents.
So, what have
I done for my simulator* today?
I decided to build a CNC router so that I could cut parts from MDF and acrylic. This is complementary to 3D printing, and probably, but not always, better than cutting things by hand.
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I started making it about 2 years ago, but the project stalled. In the last few weeks I got back to it and got it working. It still needs a bit of tweaking, but it works. Attached is a picture of the machine, which has an almost 200x200mm work area, and a picture of a piece I cut with it. The cut piece is the front panel for the Davtron MB800 chronometer for a Beechcraft King Air.
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The machine is driven by grbl running on an Arduino, so it can accept G-code directly. It uses a cheap rotary tool with 3.2mm (1/8") shank bits.
Generally my workflow is:
idea -> QCAD -> DXF2GCODE -> bCNC -> result
Not only is the software Free and Open Source, but the machine itself was based on a Free design called CNC v0.6 by Homofaciens.
https://www.homofaciens.de/technics-machines-cnc-v0-6_en.htm
* I'm not a simulator builder, I just like making things.
Nice!
Quote from: bernard S on August 30, 2020, 11:32:44 AMwhy is it mostly everybody is so fixated on 2020 .... its no where near ready for flightdeck
Possibly.
However, It installed perfectly on my 3-projector setup. Frame rates suck but I haven't tried it after the latest update.
The biggest factor I'm looking at now is that I'm anticipating 6 months to a year to totally convert from X-Plane to MSFS2020. My sim has 20 microcontrollers all tied to an X-Plane API through USB and they work quite nicely.
Moving to a new API architecture is a challenge and I don't want to get halfway through a conversion only to discover it could be done better with a different architecture.
Fire Panel continued
Testing Korrys retrofitted with LED bulbs.
Leds driven by FDS card. no resistors straight plug in
Awesome Jack!
Over the long weekend I did some initial testing on MSFS2020...
Overall I'm happy with the first release, considering there's still a lot of it not working.
What I hope they fix:
1. Way too much light bloom at night. On a 3 projector screen, this has the effect of everything being out of focus. It's a little nauseating. Note: You can turn this off but it has no effect. I hope they give us a bit more granular control over light bloom.
2. Rudder control is WAY overdone.
3. Controls are not smooth at all. Tried at different graphics settings but the result is that the plane tends to bounce around too much. Small corrections lead to big movements.
4. Visuals: There's no "Lateral Offset" setting. You can change viewpoints and pilot views but without the lateral offset you will crab endlessly close to the ground.
Granted, this is all magnified across 3 projectors, but compared to X-Plane, 2020 is way too jerky.
I'm not sure what the future of X-Plane looks like, but as I convert my sim over to 2020, I am making sure I can easily switch between sim platforms.
Hey Everyone,
Looks like some of you have been busy and with Fall on the horizon, I am sure we'll have more time to work on our sims.
Speaking of which, spent the whole day yesterday redoing my NTHUSIM settings (yep, still using version 3.0 because it works just fine). Decided to realign everything with a Johnson's self leveling Laser Level and what a huge difference it made. After doing all the vertical and horizontal alignment lines, I discovered that I never did the vertical lines very well before.
In other words, what I thought was vertical or plum before was not that at all. However, I can only summarize that it's due to my new screen configuration. I know that sounds funny since I am using the same screen, but how it's attached now is different and it helps me see things better, as weird as that sounds. Anyway, everything seems so much better...
Finally, did you see my post on USB Code 43 errors? Yeah, I just finished getting everything I mentioned above done and BAM! Code 43 errors on 2 PC's. :o
John
Looks like my COM2 and GFC600 Autopilot shipped so I can finish my radio stack.
Greetings
Finally got the lights on and connected
with interface cards working
no seperate pc to run the gauges ( on order )
https://www.inside-tech.co.uk/fanless-quad-core-intel-mini-pc-dual-display#product-options-wrapper
I will let you know how it shapes up
no pc to run MS FS2020 yet
saving up for That bad boy
but having fun building
New Milestone with MSFS 2020. Manual Engine Start is Fixed, and so are the Generators. This is a MAJOR accomplishment.
Trev
A close friend had a bunch of inop gauges from <Insert company name here> laying around so I put together a retro-fit kit designed to be driven by any micro-controller....
They turned out well!
Hey Guys,
There is so much nice working going on and I'm glad too see you're still posting here...thank you 😁
Regarding my sim, finally got a full flight in and on VATSIM. Only took 5 years...lol! Still got more to do with rebuilding yet, like install the new start switches, steering tiller, compass and more...
Also, I've gotten back to my CNC machine and started doing more with it. Eventually, going to try and make some parts for myself, but it might be another 5 years...ROTFLOL!
John
Superb cockpit but why do you use the cockpit view and not just the plain outside view ?
Hi Jack, I do use the outside view, I was just changing settings in the pics
Today... I paid for the FDS shell and interior kit, fire panels, O2 panels, all of the radios/comms/radar, and some items for the NG-ADV that I was missing. Oh, and $890 for shipping.
It's official. I'm too broke now to pay attention.
Been doing some flying instead of building...
Just a short departure out of Vegas, and a 180 to fly back down the strip before heading home.
Nice!
Great video of your flight !!! The tour down the Strip was pretty neat.
It reminded me of a time years ago flying into Las Vegas in a C182RG, arriving early evening. On the Downwind approach, the controller asked me if I wanted a "Strip Rout". I said yes, and he gave me vectors right down the Las Vegas Strip at about 1,500 feet AGL. That was an evening to remember.
Great job on your Sim!!!
Mike
Finally found a Beechcraft yoke with the coveted 'Switch Stack'. Bonus that it has a mechanical timepiece.
It shipped today. It'll go through a restoration and then have a permanent home in the 1900.
Great find!!! :P
Quote from: RayS on December 18, 2020, 12:47:41 PMFinally found a Beechcraft yoke with the coveted 'Switch Stack'. Bonus that it has a mechanical timepiece.
It shipped today. It'll go through a restoration and then have a permanent home in the 1900.
Nice. I've always been curious, how many positions do the two rocker switches next to the clock have, and what are they for?
I have made a copy of the Davtron M800 digital chronometer in the same, roughly trapezoidal, panel. I'd like to make a copy of the analogue one, just as shown in your photo.
Quote from: ame on December 19, 2020, 12:43:18 PMI have made a copy of the Davtron M800 digital chronometer in the same, roughly trapezoidal, panel. I'd like to make a copy of the analogue one, just as shown in your photo.
If you want, when it arrives I'll pull it apart and trace all the outlines and simply send you the document.
(I don't know what those rocker switches are for... Could be one of those "I need that in my aircraft!" requests from the pilot/owner...)
No worries. I can get the dimensions from the fine photo you included. Davtron has a drawing of the trapezoidal panel with the key dimension between the mounting holes. I can scale from that.
Another picture I have found shows a single two-position rocker switch marked DIM/BRI, but from your message it sounds like these panels are often customised.
Haven't done much with my flight simulator over the last few months because I've been OCD'ing about building a Lego City, as well as going through spinal cord surgeries.
However, just managed to update MSFS 2020 to the latest build...only 44.3 GB and 3 days later, it's working. The crazy thing is this computer system is working rather well for being a 10 year old Dell T7500 Workstation with dual Zeon Quad Core, a NVIDIA 2080 and a set of SSD drives.
The key to doing this though, that I believe, is lots of RAM. Put the Max amount possible of 192GB in it last year and been using it for everything from the ADOBE Suite, Video Color Editing with Black Magic software to MSFS 2020. In all areas it runs great.
Maybe, installing the max RAM possible in any machine would help with a flight simulator program over just the recommend amounts.
Anyway, going to do some flying on the desktop for now, but for 2021 it'll be time to get back to the full-size sim....
John
Hey Everyone,
Flew a great flight in MSFS 2020 back on the 26th and it was nice being on a desktop, but I do miss my big sim.
Anyway, it might be a little longer before I start posting about that, still got 3 weeks of healing time from my Spinal Cord Surgery on the 28th...like the flight sim, I too got upgraded...lol!
In the meantime, your posts and pics really keep me going, wait, I've said that before right...lol...oh well, I'll just keep saying it then.... ;D
John
Today I have pulled two Cat 6 Ethernet cables through the roof space to my patch panel. This will allow me to build a wired network in my study*, which will allow me to have a PC on wired Ethernet and an Arduino on wired Ethernet. This will allow me to experiment with UDP comms between cockpit devices (controlled by an Arduino or Raspberry Pi) and X-Plane.
I'm still not building a flight simulator, but the demo version of X-Plane should be sufficient for me to get something going.
I don't actually have the PC yet. I'm doing this on the cheap, so I am waiting for a free junk PC with sufficient capability to run the demo. One is on its way, I am told.
* Yes, I have good WiFi everywhere, and yes, I have a 20m Cat 5e patch cable I can run down the hallway, but I wanted a neat faceplate on the wall and a tidy termination at my patch panel in the comms room (aka the laundry cupboard).
Also, the PCBs for my Challenger 300 FMC should be here soon. I will post details at various stages of assembly and testing.
i added a handle to my bathroom door only took 2 years
Well done Bernard, did you manufacture it from two spoons?
😜🤣
lol yeah kinda looks like it right i think its a home depot high dollar item hence the fashion item 😅
Built a custom FMC keyboard using QMK.
Ordered a new 3D printer with a larger print bed...
Which one Andrew.
I have ordered a Creality Ender 3 v2, which is probably the cheapest one I can get here in NZ.
well i am thinking of pimping my concrete floors midnight black with chrome flakes ?
That way when the sim is upside down you will be looking at the night sky :)
Quote from: ame on January 29, 2021, 11:41:28 PMI have ordered a Creality Ender 3 v2, which is probably the cheapest one I can get here in NZ.
Thanks Andrew, i was hoping it was a little bigger
as i am looking for some kind sole to print a larger model that my printer can not handle.
wow got a price and almost fell over will figure out how to do it myself
Quote from: iwik on February 02, 2021, 07:20:12 AMQuote from: ame on January 29, 2021, 11:41:28 PMI have ordered a Creality Ender 3 v2, which is probably the cheapest one I can get here in NZ.
Thanks Andrew, i was hoping it was a little bigger
as i am looking for some kind sole to print a larger model that my printer can not handle.
Even though my current printer has a small print volume I have had a lot of success with chopping the 3D model into smaller pieces and gluing them together with cyanoacrylate. I sometimes include 2mm alignment holes in the joint faces which allows me to insert short lengths of filament to act as alignment pins. The resulting part is just as strong as a printed part, and with a little sanding and painting the joints can not be seen.
Quote from: bernard S on February 02, 2021, 11:39:04 AMwow got a price and almost fell over will figure out how to do it myself
Bernard...
Actually I think that would look much better on the ceiling.
Like NavyMustang says....I think you have things sort of inverted.
Fred K
Quote from: iwik on February 02, 2021, 07:20:12 AMQuote from: ame on January 29, 2021, 11:41:28 PMI have ordered a Creality Ender 3 v2, which is probably the cheapest one I can get here in NZ.
Thanks Andrew, i was hoping it was a little bigger
as i am looking for some kind sole to print a larger model that my printer can not handle.
What size do you need?
My Creality is here and I've set it up and run off a test print. It works, and it looks like it will be fine.
Hi Andrew,
I looked up the specs and it is not big enough.Its about the size of mine.
I did split the model(rudder pedals) and was a bit worried that the force might brake them.
So i have printed a 3d u shaped bracket to glue over the join. Hope this will be strong enough. Thanks for replying.
Les
The CR-10S is bigger, but it's over twice the price!
I think if you print with a decent amount of infill, and you orient your model so that the lines of force go across the filament and not in line with the layers of the model it will be quite strong.
You could also try annealing your prints to strengthen them:
https://all3dp.com/2/annealing-pla-prints-for-strength-easy-ways/
My test prints on the Ender 3 V2 are great. Very happy with my purchase.
removing both main windows due to delam and space is tight.. plus need replace beam splitter
Spray painted one of the frames for my FMC. Looks awesome.
I've been quiet, but busy....
1. Work continues on adding a newer Universal FMC. Not for navigation but for basic sim functions.
2. Slowly removing 20+ teensy controllers and replacing them with 2 FDS SYSX1 controllers. This allows me to switch back and forth between X-Plane and P3D/2020
3. Added the proper fuel control panel for the B1900.
4. Added a Garmin G5 Standby gauge from SimInnovations
5. Removed an old audio control panel and now using switches in the Center MIP radio panel
6. Working on new pilot-side yoke that has the elusive Pitch Trim switch stack.
7. Designed and now testing a 4-place intercom interface that has audio compression so ATC doesn't blow my ears out.
8. Restored an old Beechcraft chronometer. (Came with the yoke)
Regarding the Garmin G5... I have it running on a rPI3+ (About to convert it to use a rPI4) And I have to say that when paired with a perfectly square LCD panel that has a near 179-degree viewing angle, the end result is stunning.
After 3D printing a bezel for it, I find myself flying more by the G5 than the Avidyne PFD.
The Universal FMC I picked up for a song off eBay...
Where did you get that square screen ?
Looks amazing.
Jack
I dabble in photography and unfortunately I also like collecting gadgets. Every once in awhile I go through my gear inventory to see if there's something I'm not using that perhaps I can trade or sell.
I had this iKan 5" LCD monitor laying around for years that I used once or twice.. if that.
It has a new home now. :-)
https://www.amazon.com/Ikan-Support-Camera-Monitor-DH5e/dp/B01I64ZRMC
The "weirdly square" screen came from here;
https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/hyperpixel-4-square?variant=30138251444307
Thank you.
You are not alone keeping stock on shelves :D
AliExpress FTW!
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005001344069807.html
Today I acquired a junk PC and monitor with sufficient grunt to run the X-Plane demo. It is by no means a gaming rig, but it does run. I intend to use it to finish off the devices I have made, which have stalled for various reasons (pun intended).
The first one will probably be the FMC, since I recently finished the hardware for that, and it is self-contained and standalone. The FMC comprises a PCB with 69 tact switches, a 3D printed fascia and buttons, a 5" VGA monitor, and an Arduino Pro Micro running QMK to scan the keyboard matrix. I intend for this to be plugged in to a Raspberry Pi which will handle the screen and keyboard like any screen and keyboard, and will communicate over the network to X-Plane. Any Pi will do, and a "complete" flight deck will require two of them.
The current cost of the unit is approximately $100, as follows:
$ 10 PCB and components
$ 5 Arduino Pro Micro
$ 40 VGA screen and driver
$ 5 3D printed parts
$ 5 Raspberry Pi Zero (if you can get one)
$ 5 Ethernet and USB hub
$ 10 12V PSU
Plus various cables, fasteners, adapters, etc.
Using a Pi 3 or similar will only affect the cost by $25.
I printed the same model in two different coloured filaments. Both are eSun PLA+, one grey (fascia), one silver (keys). They look great, and I'm going to try colouring the legends with white air-dry modelling clay. I saw the technique applied to resin-printed key caps and it looked fabulous. I don't have a resin printer, but I am quite impressed with the Ender 3 V2. We'll see how it looks.
I don't really want a resin printer, but I can see plenty of applications for one...
Resin printers are great for things like those key caps. Not only because they are much higher resolution but unlike FDM printers, whether you print one or 30 it takes the same time. As long as it fits on the plate you can print as many as you like.
Well worth the investment Ame
An "investment"...
Hmm. I'll pitch that to the financial department.
Yes I have one of those, she's called the entertainment manager and holder of the purse... ;)
Drying overnight. Not great, but not terrible. I'll clean them up a bit more and finish the others, but I'm satisfied for now. I should probably spray them with clear satin acrylic to seal the clay.
The alpha keys are 3/8" square, with a curved top. The number keys are 3/8" diameter, with a flat top.
A bit of sanding and cleaning. Looks okay, but I'm really at the limit of the printer's capabilities.
The flat-topped keys look good, but sanding the top just exposes the edges where filament extrusions touch, so the surface is smooth, but there are wavy lines within it.
The rounded keys capture clay and dust in the stairsteps formed by printing the curved top.
I might also reprint them with deeper insets for the legends, then I can get more clay in there. The top and bottom of the legends are not very deep at all, due to the shape of the tops.
Looks like a real one!
Now on to software.
Here's a real one, for comparison.
Ok. Well, it's a bit slow, and it's appallingly badly written, and I haven't done keypresses yet, but! As a proof of concept, it works!
Attached is a photo of X-Plane FMC on screen, and a photo of the Raspberry Pi driven pyfmc.
Keypresses are working. Hooray for me.
Still a bit slow however. And the unicode characters aren't showing properly (surprise!). They are supported by the font, but I think I'm not extracting the character code from the dataref properly.
Anyway, job's done.
Turns out that I need to subscribe to 96 datarefs for each line on the FMC (which is documented). That's 24 character cells with up to 4 bytes each. Astonishingly inefficient!
Never mind. I'll just do it and see how slow it is.
WOW...that is amazing work Andrew. How does it interface with X-plane, and can you do the same for Fs9 or X?
Quote from: Mach7 on February 26, 2021, 04:14:45 AMWOW...that is amazing work Andrew. How does it interface with X-plane, and can you do the same for Fs9 or X?
The X-Plane interface is pretty straightforward. There are a bunch of datarefs that contain the contents of the FMC screen. Then there is a list of commands that represent the actions of pushing a button on the FMC keyboard.
The unit itself is a standalone Raspberry Pi with a screen and keyboard, running Python and pygame. My program does three things (which you will see when I tidy up and post the code).
First, I send a request to subscribe to the datarefs for the display. It turns out there are 1920 requests, so it takes a few seconds (these are 16 rows of 24 characters, where each character can have up to 4 bytes (Unicode characters) plus one byte of formatting information (colour, size, etc.) so 16x24x(4+1)=1920).
Once that is done, X-Plane will continuously send the requested data at the requested frequency. So, the second thing I do is run an infinite loop which accepts the new data from X-Plane and draws the new screen content (using pygame because it's easy).
The third thing is to check for any keypresses during the main loop and look up what command to send to X-Plane for that key. Sending a key command causes X-Plane to do something, which changes the display, which is sent out via datarefs, which updates the Pi's display.
So, the Pi (the FMC) is completely decoupled from the simulator. If other simulators can provide the FMC screen content somehow, and accept keypress actions then my code could probably be adapted. As you can see, it's not that complicated.
Another thing to note is that my code will run on anything that runs pygame. So, anything with a screen and keyboard can be an FMC. It just so happens that I have made a keyboard that looks like an FMC keyboard, and a screen that fits inside it, but that's just the icing on the cake.
However, it's not all plain sailing. It does work, but it's a bit slow. Everything is done with UDP packets, which are essentially "fire and forget". If a packet is sent and the other end doesn't catch it then it is lost. So, if the request for a character cell is lost, I won't get the content. Ever. If the request is successful but occasional content is lost that's not too bad as I will get it next time. If keypress commands are lost then the operator will press the button again.
I've got some ideas to try, but I'm pretty happy that it basically Just Works.
Finally got the yoke installed I won off eBay. Love the pitch trim switch stack.
This particular Beech yoke has rubber grips in the back of the handles.
Aside from peeling away the 30-year-old rubber cement that faithfully held them in place all these years, there was also 30 years of pilot hand goop to contend with.
GROSS.
Nice. I have built a simulated Davtron MB800 for the centre if you'd like.
Glad to see all the updates.
My cockpit is in hyper sleep for now. Just had 3rd surgery 1 week ago and gotta heal at least 30days outta 120 before getting in the sim again.
However, I started looking at things I'm missing for it yet, so in research mode....
John
Yesterday, I dusted off the cobwebs and dirt from my instruments which are just sitting on the shelf and begging for attention.
Way too much stuff happening in my life to do anything 'serious' with interfacing and instrument-gutting.
John...hope you're doing better and soon! Stay strong.
Antny
I made a video of my pyFMC in action:
https://youtu.be/qmP1zujaHfY
Thanks Antny, really appreciate that ;D
John
Quote from: blueskydriver on March 01, 2021, 08:42:30 AMGlad to see all the updates.
My cockpit is in hyper sleep for now. Just had 3rd surgery 1 week ago and gotta heal at least 30days outta 120 before getting in the sim again.
However, I started looking at things I'm missing for it yet, so in research mode....
John
Do get well John!
Fred K
Thank you Fred so very much, it means a lot too me...
John
It's good to see that you always stay so positive John, I hope you get well soon.
As we Brits say, "Keep your chin up."
Regards
Joe.
![bb.jpg bb.jpg](https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=cf48b168badf584e472e3dfee99c882c&action=dlattach;attach=21764)
Cheers John...Trim up !
Hey Joe and Jack,
Thank you for the well wishes, they really do encourage me to keep going and stay positive. And, because all of you have been like family too me over these many years, your kind thoughtfulness means that much more....
Kind Regards,
John
Lots of work and lots of lessons learned.
Still working on programming the new Universal FMC to replace the older one.
Replaced 2 older computers with (relatively) newer ones from eBay
Replaced 4-position KVM switch with an 8-position
Lots of cable management...
Lessons learned:
1. Do Not let Windows "manage" the USB ports. Regardless of the computer, Windows will 'sleep' inactive USB ports. Some sim interfaces don't send/receive traffic unless 'something happens'. This was playing havoc with my Ruscool interfaces. I set the USB power Management to 'Disable' any power management.
2. USB cable quality matters... especially when the cable lengths are over 10 feet. Pay up for good-quality cables.
I've been having a lot of issues with USB dropouts. Problem solved with better cables and not allowing Windows to 'Save me power'.
COVID made me do it!
Although I'm still neck-deep in a hardware interface conversion, I had the wild idea to make the rear bulkhead look like the inside of a corporate charter.
Expect a Moving Map display on the left and a bi-fold door (Maybe even a coffee station) soon...
That looks awesome Ray!
Ditto. Looks beautiful and 100% professional. Nice work!
Steve
Go for the galley. I did it 2 years ago and enjoyed it ever since.
Quote from: RayS on April 14, 2021, 03:48:35 PMCOVID made me do it!
Although I'm still neck-deep in a hardware interface conversion, I had the wild idea to make the rear bulkhead look like the inside of a corporate charter.
Expect a Moving Map display on the left and a bi-fold door (Maybe even a coffee station) soon...
Ray....Trump's old 757 is speculated to never fly again and to be headed to the scrap pile. It has all sorts of gold-plated accessories that would nicely adorn your upscaling. Keep close watch on Ebay.
Fred K
Quote from: FredK on April 15, 2021, 05:10:35 AM...Trump's old 757 is speculated to never fly again...
Fred K
I saw that actually. It would cost more than it's worth to get her airworthy again. One engine is missing and the other is in plastic. It's been sitting in inclimate weather for awhile which accelerated it's demise. (Should have stored it in an Arizona Boneyard)
Might be interesting to have a piece of that!
Hey Ray, you're totally out doing yourself and making some awesome additions! Keep things going!
John
Thanks John! With so many projects it's easy to keep that ball rolling.
Here's the finished bulkhead. I have one more sweet item on the way and it's a beautiful plaque commemorating Delta Airlines Inaugural Service Atlanta-Fort Myers in 1979.
It'll fit perfectly right under that light on the right side.
Very Professional !!
Little bit of aviation history in the sim....
That's really awesome Ray!
I've managed to get mine flying. Still struggling with a couple of things though. I'll cover those in a separate thread
Don't mind the screen alignment - still working that. You can also see my taped guideline as I tried some tricks with camera rotation to better align the view.
Video (https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipN682-RXB8rklAfMOEv5b27tUCgf5DDlTnOE_X3/photo/AF1QipMF7X2v5StVyRsFvEaOJfUaSDf8fIDkSGsjt4FM)
Hey Warren, check your link, I just get a Goggle 404 error....
John
Quote from: blueskydriver on May 23, 2021, 03:11:32 PMHey Warren, check your link, I just get a Goggle 404 error....
John
Damn. I'm still struggling with a way to share these vids and pics. I'll look into it
Hey Warren,
You could just do a YouTube (YT) channel and post your videos, as well as your pics. You could just make a slide show of any pics and export them as a video to YT. Lot easier then doing a webpage....
John
Lately I've been working on converting the 1900 to be compatible with FS2020. Recently had to rebuild the entire sim system due to some unforeseen issues with FlightIllusion hardware.
Spent the past few nights adding DME and TCAS info to my Avidyne EXP 5000 PFD software.
The conversion should allow me to use both X-Plane and FS2020 with minimal config changes. 2020 (At least in my opinion) has come far enough to be (Somewhat) usable in the sim...
...if only I can figure out how to start the @@%$$@&# engines in it! (That still seems to be an issue and I've never figured it out.)
Well, it's been pretty quiet here. What have I done for my simulator today?
I have acquired, temporarily, a laser cutter. I have to clean it up and check that it works before returning it.
It works, so I can do some quick experiments with making panels.
I can cut 3mm MDF. I can stack two pieces to make the 6mm (1/4") fascia for a panel, and engrave the decal into the top of the top piece.
So far I have tried engraving through blue painter's tape. It seems to work, but I need to wait a little longer for the acrylic infill to dry before removing the tape.
Now that I've had a go I think a better method will be:
Paint MDF with final colour, gloss finish
Engrave decal and cut panel in one operation (so that the decal remains aligned with the cuts)
Rub white acrylic paint into engraved areas. It should wipe off the gloss painted areas easily, but remain in the engraved areas.
Spray over with clear matt acrylic to seal the decal and give an overall matt result.
We'll see.
Summer is always a slow time for me for the "building" aspect of the sim. Flying time recently is also diminished due to other outdoor distractions.
I would like to upgrade my visuals hardware to RTX3090 video cards along with the new Optoma projectors, but the outrageous prices for computer hardware right now preclude such (X3 in my case for my multi-channel visual system).
I am still mulling over whether to convert my NG to a MAX.
Fred K
It's winter down here. ;D
Hello All,
Chiming in as well... It's summer here in New Mexico, with outside temps around 104 degrees F. Thank God for air conditioning!
My Sim Room is air conditioned, so that make things comfortable. In addition, thanks to Fred's recommendation, I have the TripLite IP Cooler. I have the IP Cooler pointed straight at the Sim Computers, blowing into the front of the Sim on its Motion Platform. That helps to keep the CPU and RTX-3090 GPU temps within range.
I am still waiting for the newly released 11th generation Intel 11900KF CPU, which Intel has now backordered. Hopefully that will be shipped in a couple of weeks, then I can finish assembling the new Sim Computer.
In the meantime, I have resolved the 4K to HD "display shift" issue the best I can, to the point where it's hardly noticeable. I'm counting on the additional 40% increase in the Sim Computer overall performance to completely resolve any display issues.
On another note... I currently have a type of J-Rail system for my Weber Seats. I uses inverted conveyor roller, which move nicely, but lack the smoothness of the real J-Rail system. I decided to redesign my J-Rail roller system and make my own Roller Blocks. When completed, it should perform as smoothly as the real deal.
Lastly... I am getting back to working on constructing the AFT part of the Flight Deck, with its Circuit Breaker Panels, etc. back to the Cockpit Door. When that is complete, the Cockpit will be fully enclosed, adding a bit to the Sim Immersion experience.
I might mention that when I am not working on the Sim, I also enjoy doing astro-photography from our home observatory with the newly completed 24" RC telescope and Fork Mount that I have been designing and building over the last 15 years. It is now performing well, taking images of various Deep Sky objects in our own Milky Way Galaxy and galaxies beyond. Just for fun... Here are a few images from the new telescope to share with you. I don't think Trevor will mind me posting these...
Take care everyone, and "Keep your AirSpeed Up!"
Mike
Guess I'll add my 2 cents as well.
Managed to snag an EVGA 3090 Kingpin at retail price direct from EVGA after being on the wait list for any 3090 for 5 months. Didn't really want to spend that much, but you take what you can get these days, especially if you can get a high-end card at retail.
I've been experimenting lately with view groups versus NVidia surround on my collimated displays to achieve the smoothest perceived visuals I can. Any micro-stutters are unfortunately amplified by the collimator magnification so smoothness is critical or the effect can be a bit jarring. Hence why I was thinking a 3090 would do the trick. Yes and no.
Before today, after countless hours of experimenting, I have come to the conclusion that NVidia surround creates the best performance/smoothest visuals across the three displays. The drawback is there is significant stretching at the far left and right of the 7680 x 1600 desktop. This creates a bit of a problem because the three displays go from -90 to 0 degrees in my captain side FOV, meaning my forward view is always looking at the extreme right of the wide screen and thus the stretched portion of the screen. I can compensate somewhat with Fly-Elise's warping software to where it's tolerable, but it's very time-consuming and tedious work, and it'll never be perfect.
With the new 3090 I decided to give Prepar3D view groups another try to see if I could get rid of that stretching and get some smoother visuals as well. I had tried view groups a while back on my 2080 ti and an older version of P3D but found the performance hit was too significant and the stuttering was intolerable. With P3D 5.1 and the 3090 I can now maintain a pretty steady 60 FPS with view groups, and no more stretching so the views look much nicer. But visuals are still not yet as smooth as I think they should be, which tells me something else is at play. I believe it's refresh rate synchronization.
Right now I'm driving three 2K 30" Dell displays per cockpit side/graphics card. They look great, but they can only run 2K at 60Hz and I can't drop them down to, say, 30Hz. Yes, I can set up 1/2 refresh rate which I can definitely maintain. Yes, it's "smoother" in that there are less major stutters, but then I see the frames flickering which is distracting and just feels like micro-stuttering.
Anyway, what hit the refresh issue home was when I bought a G-Sync monitor for my desktop PC not long ago and combined with the Variable Refresh Rate setting in P3D, it makes a big difference in perceived smoothness.
All that to say I have ordered a few 27" G-Sync monitors to replace the 30" ones and see if G-Sync makes a difference across 3 screens in view groups, or if not, then one wide screen in surround. I think it will. Fingers crossed because I'm getting tired of keeping all these hardware companies in business!
In the meantime, I'm filling out some smaller details in the cockpit with some 3D printing (cup/map holders, air vent knobs, decals, etc). Next major task is to create a hinged back wall that opens up like french doors so i can put some fake CB panels and enclose the cockpit, yet open it up when I need to get in for maintenance and need space to move around.
And I did finally finish up my 3D printed recreation of an Airpath compass with LCD that came out pretty good.
tasty
MistyBlue,
I thought I had read that FlyElise said to not enable NVidia Surround when using their software?
Hmm, hadn't seen that, but I have had no issues using it with Surround, performance or otherwise (as far as I know).
I got my 3 G-Sync monitors in. Definitely seems smoother, but as always there are so many factors that play into smoothness that I know G-Sync alone won't fix everything.
Now comes the process of elimination to find that right balance of performance to quality. At this point I'm honestly halfway tempted to turn just about everything down to mins if that's what it takes to ensure a 100% smooth sim all the time.
It is somewhat of an issue when using NVIDIA Surround, in that it will produce a "stretched" display effect at the left and right extremes of the display. To eliminate this, you need to use some kind of Warping software, eg. FlyElse, etc. However, the warp/blend software by its design, will rearrange and eliminate some of the graphic image data to achieve the resultant corrected warped and blended display.
For flat panel displays/monitors, the so-called warping software should have the ability to produce the ViewGroups or FXML files needed to make it compatible with monitor type of displays. Also, that is correct that you do not use a NVIDIA Surround display with ViewGroups
As has been commented on... Trying to get a smooth, stutter free display is a challenge using multiple monitors or a warped and blended projection type of system.
Then there is the issue of "hardware balance", where just adding a high performance graphics card is not necessarily the total solution. Optimization of hardware needs to be considered all the way to the monitors and/or projectors.
I am intrigued by your results in using P3D version 5.x. I am using P3D v4.5x, which may indeed be slowing things down. When I get my new Sim computer up and running, I will consider upgrading to P3D version 5.
However, P3D v5.x may have some problems as I am using Sim-Avionics for the 737-800 flight model. I had previously tried P3D v5, but my Flight Illusion gages did not work correctly, so I put the upgrade on hold while I worked out the 4k display issues with v4.5. If there are performance improvements with P3D v5.x, then I think I need to get v5.x working correctly on my Sim setup.
Also, nice work in making the 3D printed Compass. I would like to add that to my Flight Deck someday.
Mike
Hey Mike, thanks for the compliment on the compass. I probably could have refined it a little more (3D prints are a real pain to sand and fill as I'm sure you know) but at some point you say "it's good enough."
I'm using FI gauges without an issue in P3D 5.1, but I use Prosim. Not sure why it wouldn't work for you as the gauges are routed through your avionics software, no?
My displays are in three parts, and the mirrors are not perfectly continous, so that makes it a lot harder to get aligned. If I had a standard curved screen it would be a breeze by comparison, but then it wouldn't be as cool. Unfortunately cool points don't come without a ton of sacrifice.
FYI, I tried 5.2 on my desktop PC (which is essentially my test bed) and I saw a lot of stuttering WITH my G-Sync monitor, so I'm holding off for some of the kinks to get worked out.
Agreed that a holistic approach to tuning is certainly the best approach. If only there were more hours in the day, and more patience in the hopper!
Quote from: sagrada737 on June 13, 2021, 03:57:07 PMHello All,
I might mention that when I am not working on the Sim, I also enjoy doing astro-photography from our home observatory with the newly completed 24" RC telescope and Fork Mount that I have been designing and building over the last 15 years. It is now performing well, taking images of various Deep Sky objects in our own Milky Way Galaxy and galaxies beyond. Just for fun... Here are a few images from the new telescope to share with you. I don't think Trevor will mind me posting these...
Take care everyone, and "Keep your AirSpeed Up!"
Mike
That's a great setup and pics you have Mike. Astro is my other hobby as well. I would love to have your skies and weather up here. Bortle 6 and -0 temps in the winter make it a challenge for sure.
Quote from: sagrada737 on June 13, 2021, 03:57:07 PMHello All,.........
I might mention that when I am not working on the Sim, I also enjoy doing astro-photography from our home observatory with the newly completed 24" RC telescope and Fork Mount that I have been designing and building over the last 15 years.
Whaooo !
Fantastic. Please share other pics in the General disc. Board
Planets?
Jack
Been busy over here...
The XP to 2020 conversion continues (Although it's not really a conversion, it's an effort to enable the sim to run any platform with just a few config changes on bootup.)
Latest conversion effort is the Avidyne DFC-90 autopilot.
On the surface, this looks like any other autopilot with 2 exceptions:
1. Each button uses 2 colors: Blue for Off, Green for On. The FDS Interface cards can't replicate that functionality so I built a circuit as a go-between that enables bi-color LED functionality based on FDS outputs.
2. The DFC-90 actually has a "God button". Nothing more really than a button that levels out the aircraft across Pitch/Roll/Yaw. This maps directly to the Wing-Leveler FSUIPC offset.
Most likely this project will wrap up tonight... hopefully... fingers crossed....
So I've done a lot more testing with my 3x 27" G-Sync monitors using both P3D 5.1 View Groups and NVidia Surround with my 3090 Kingpin card.
For my tests I've minimized most all important settings and I'm achieving over 120 FPS at Flightbeam's KSFO in both View Groups and Surround. G-Sync is enabled and monitor refresh rate set to 165 Hz with P3D controlling refresh (VSync off, Variable Refresh Rate on).
That said, view groups are still often stuttery. Surround is very smooth. Looks like I'm going to have to go back to using Surround.
i have been doing things and sorting other things Now that i am cooler than Elvis i need to get my thing in a thingy so i can do my thing
today managed to get access ladder for my thingy now to copy it as i need two
Glad too see everyone is still progressing and posting along the way...thank you 😁
Had my 4th surgery this past Tuesday, so I'm all good to go per se, just gotta heal from this one over the next 3-4 weeks, and then it's HELLS BELLS TIME to get going again.
Already planning to get two exhaust fans up in the attic space of the shed. We had some sweating last year from running the AC rather low on hot humid days. If your insulation looks like it has dimples or rain drop pockets on top, that's from sweating. Anyway, we're planning too put the two Exhaust Fans up, one blowing in and one blowing out. And, if need be, will stable radiant barrier aluminum sheeting up by the metal.
Just a suggestion for anyone with or planning to build a metal building for your sim, think about the heat/air conditioning carefully. You might not have any issues with this, but do look into it; especially, if you live in an area that gets hot and/or humid anytime in the year.
Lastly, has anyone been hit with the MSFS 2020 please insert disk? Had it happen yesterday and just rebooting the computer and restarting MSFS fixed it. If it doesn't fix it on the first reboot, reboot again...read that on MSFS website....
John
John if i recall you and went through this air conditioning at lenght as i have 8 tons plus going through my building ( i like igloo) the end result with ac is its not a home depot solution it requires professional help and instalation in my case he ducting had to be fabricated and insulated the system i have cools my data centre the flight deck and play area as well as building for building insulation i went with R30 etc but then my set up not that common lol
I bought a 2.5 ton mini-split to keep my garage conditioned for my sim in this crazy Texas climate. Mini-splits are very efficient and it can easily keep the 650 sq ft space with tall ceilings perfect all year round. Also keeps the wife's car nice and comfortable (win-win...it's how ya gotta sell it!).
Anyway, depending on the size of area, that may be a good cost-effective alternative to a full blown AC setup.
You'd probably need 6 of them, though, to keep Bernards sim "resort" comfortable, lol.
hula skirts optional ;-)
Hey Bernard,
Yep, lots of details back when we put the 3 ton mini split in and that works great for both heat and AC...actually too great!
We have R38 insulation on the ceiling and that keeps the air inside the interior really well. The problem is the radiant heat coming from the roof into the space above the insulation and below the metal roof; the radiant heat is a common issue with metal roofs as it heats up the air above the insulation causing moisture to form and drip.
Currently, we have ridge vents and two gable end vents, but we do not have eaves with vents, it's just a few inches of overhang and an opening at the bottom of the roof. So, the intake airflow is not adequate enough to remove the moisture/humidity; thus, the reason for installing gable fans...which is a common practice in my area.
Collectively, we are very happy with our setup, but we just needed too do the things that are routine for Wisconsin weather....
John
PS I agree you needed pro help, but in our case it's just a big 2500 sq/ft room in a metal box...lol!
AAAHHH! The Summer Blues!
Like the Winter Blues, but for the Cockpit Builders' website.
It's where everyone is out enjoying the blue summer skies and not doing much with their simulator, nor posting anything about it here.
This is normal; however, there are many other things you could post about beyond your sim. Take a look at all the forum titles, as there are many too choose from...you could be laying on the beach posting about whatever you like.
John
Summer time...!
Well guys, for a change, I am back after a rather tumultuous year, not that I got sick or anything, just many changes in the business, including the EHR company that I have used for 11 years going belly up, and having to migrate 34000+ records. So what I have done for my sim today? well, I fired it up, and it worked !!.
I hope to be able to make it to WF this year, if all goes okay.
JF
I managed to source this grey thing pictured and copy it so i have two yellow things
You building your own airport Bernard? 8)
Quote from: Joe Lavery on July 07, 2021, 09:00:38 AMYou building your own airport Bernard? 8)
The mystery of the "thingies" continues!
Fred K
Pretty sure Bernard's motto is "He who dies with the mostest cool thingies wins!" I've seen what he's up to...and I officially quit ;D
for the wild thing
got this thing to brk those things so i can do my thing
Looks like a new building is going up! Those rocks seem like a challenge for that little tractor...
Don't forget the Heli Pad... :)
make it work :-)
Quote from: sagrada737 on July 09, 2021, 08:40:41 AMDon't forget the Heli Pad... :)
Don't give him ideas. He might just do it!
dont you lot worry about the size of my thing its seems to be working.. emm helipad.... actully why not ?
introduction for tiki bar maybe ? 19 more loads of the sandy stuff
beach front
more of same thing for the thing
I 3D printed a DIN rail mount for a Raspberry Pi to hold it in place inside a pedestal.
I downloaded the files from Thingiverse and printed them directly. Came out great.
now thats cool
Here's the link to the files:
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2492974
The Pi mounting holes are M3 in the model, but the actual hole size is M2.5. I filled the holes with some glue and bits of filament and re-drilled them to accept the smaller screws. I expect others just drill out the Pi holes to M3, but that's a bit :o
I would also have liked some holes for the Pi LEDs. I'm into light pipes, and DIN rail :)
Although I've already printed it I loaded the STL files into OpenSCAD and reduced the mounting boss hole size to M2.5, and added two holes for the LEDs. I hadn't done that before, so I wanted to experiment and see how easy/hard it was. I haven't printed this one, but I'm happy to send the file to anyone who wants it.
I've also been working on a new switch design, which I have posted about in another thread. It's a technique of using evenly spaced sensors and a tailored activation pattern to detect the position of an input (usually a rotating actuator). It works best with optical sensors, but I've been experimenting with switches. Five switches can be used to detect 30 rotation positions (a resolution of 12°).
Nice looking 3D printed assembly. 3D printing is a great resource for our Sim projects. Looking forward to how the embedded Bosses work out.
Mike
Amazingly, I finally got a complete flight in on MSFS2020 this evening; flew from KCVG to KMSN. Albeit, it wasn't in my B737NG sim; instead, it was in a King Air 350.
After I went ahead and purchased a new set of CH Products (Yoke, Throttles and Pedal combo), and mounted it all too my desk, I found that desktop flying is actually pretty fun. Yes, desktop flying!
Plus, I figure this is the best way too learn MSFS2020 without worrying about all the complexities of the sim itself. And, it'll give me time to just setup a quick flight, as well as review things as they come out.
Overall, it's like learning FSX after using FS2004, you just have to try everything....
John
for the thing that makes the big things go whoose catapult :-)
Hey Bernard... It's time for the Floor Plan... :)
Be sure to put a large linear Drain in from of the Main Door. Looks like the entry way slopes toward the structure.
Embedded electrical/data conduit in the floor?
Work continues on "dual-Booting" the Beech 1900D sim.
Originally it was based entirely on the X-Plane platform, but have been working for a few months to enable it to fly MSFS2020.
There's still some residual functionality that needs to be converted over, but as of right now, I can fly on either sim platform.
The supporting computers (There are 5) can boot into using XP or 2020 using a simple batch file on startup.
Upgraded the sim's internal lighting using the Philips Hue system.
A short video of lightning at night. Have to say it's a really nice effect.
video unavail...
Here's Ray's YouTube Page:
https://youtube.com/channel/UCkvO_LcIX3iRg1GXzunJPfw
Otherwise, Ray please check your link for the video above... ;D
John
Thanks for the link John...
Ray's Sim is outstanding! I believe it is a King Air. Is there a thread that details Ray's construction on this project?
Mike
I had forgotten to make the video Public. Thanks for the heads-up.
Hello Ray,
I really enjoyed the videos on your site. Beautiful work and treatment on your Sim. The "Light Bar" is an interesting concept.
Clear Skies,
Mike
Thanks Mike, I go the inspiration from my good friend Ryan, who sent me this video:
Adding this system also removed something else that was nagging me which was light flicker in the camera due to the camera's refresh rate and the DMX light bar refresh rate.
The video mentions you also need the iPhone app, which you do, but only for the initial setup. The lighting system runs without the iPhone app once you get it set up.
Thanks for sharing, Ray! I've been thinking about doing something like this for some time but wasn't quite sure how to go about it. That last video perfectly explains how to get it up and running in no time and it looks like the effect is fantastic. Nice job!
Ray
Thanks for posting this!
I have added this as high priority for introducing into my sim.
The way my projection screen is situated relative to the cockpit is going to be ideal for setting up the light bars to avoid light projection onto the screen.....and very easy to install!
Fred K
After not posting for ages...and retiring v1 of my sim almost a decade ago - I am pretty seriously back into simming. In the past year I have migrated away from FSX into XPlane and the Zibo aircraft (which I fly exclusively).
I've also designed and built from scratch a homegrown Overhead (being replaced in the next month or so) - this homegrown version has no annunciators or gauges, strict switches and was built for less than $300! I've also done the same for the pedestal bay.
In the last month, I have added some CPFlight Gear, namely the MCP and EFIS. Looking to get the Radios in the near future as well. For a throttle I am using a Jetmax which has developed some issues due to age (namely the spoiler axis), I'll replace this in the next year with something new/shinier - for now the spoiler axis is just disabled. Not ideal but it's ok for the long run.
I have no MIP as my PC doubles as my gaming system, but I am thinking pretty hard about it!
Sorry for the long post, just happy to get some excitement and enjoyment out of flying again!
Welcome back to the Sim world... From what you have described, it sounds like you will have a nice setup when completed.
Regarding the JetMax TQ. Those are fairly easy to work on. Most likely, the Spoiler potentiometer is bad, or perhaps its come loose in the mechanism. Simply take it apart and you will most likely find the problem quickly.
Before that however, double check that the Spoiler calibration in FSUIPC is not corrupt. First go to Windows and determine if the potentiometer is functioning, then recalibrate in FSUIPC.
Remember... For the FSUIPC calibration of the SpeedBrake (Spoiler), you need to set the SpeedBrake stowed position, then its Full Extended position, then the Armed position.
Mike
Yes, welcome back to home sweet home of flight simulators. Glad too hear your building again...
Also, never be sorry for long posts, as long posts are encouraged. All the information you put in either long or short postings really helps others, and the more you provide, the more others learn.
Would love to see some pics or videos of your progress. How about posting a few?
John
Hey Ray,
Thanks for the video of the lighting effects. I'm researching them now and found two decent YT videos regarding this type of lighting for race car sim(s):
https://youtu.be/I73VIQvR_qY
https://youtu.be/VuXbvzm7RmY
The guys do a good job at explaining what they done, but we need a "how it's done" for a flight sim from you; please explain everything ;D
John
PS I agree Fred, you really need too look into doing this....
I picked up one of those Philips Hue hubs and the 2m outdoor LED strip from my local Best Buy to experiment with today. I also installed the Philips Hue Windows app on the sim PC which captures the color values from the displays and translates that to the LED strip in real time.
I'm not convinced yet that the lighting effect/color is going to be good enough for me, as there tends to be some distracting flickering, but with some fine-tuning I'm hoping it'll get better.
Worst case, just having the LED strip behind and above me I can manually adjust the light color/brightness through the Hue mobile app to provide some ambient light in the cockpit to match the outside brightness/colors. That already seems to make a nice difference.
The Hue system does take a little bit of tweaking to get the lighting just right, but overall I am really excited with the results.
Also, I fired up a Pink Floyd video of Comfortably Numb, and sat in the pit with the 210-degree wraparound screen and minus the actual pit, it felt like actually being there.
Tonight I added 2 side-bar Hue lights and was pleasantly surprised during a night landing to see the side lights flicker a bit as I passed each runway light.
I had planned on selling a home-brew lighting solution in my retirement but the Philips system is just too good, while my system seems inferior now!
Thank you for the kind words everyone!
Quote from: sagrada737 on July 27, 2021, 08:47:39 AMRegarding the JetMax TQ. Those are fairly easy to work on. Most likely, the Spoiler potentiometer is bad, or perhaps its come loose in the mechanism. Simply take it apart and you will most likely find the problem quickly.
Before that however, double check that the Spoiler calibration in FSUIPC is not corrupt. First go to Windows and determine if the potentiometer is functioning, then recalibrate in FSUIPC.
What is interesting is, on the old PC, I had zero issues. I built this PC in Feb and since then just noise issues on only that axis. I've calibrated numerous times, tried USB direct to PC, through a hub etc, no change! I'm thinking I'll try to dismantle enough to clean the pot and go from there, I'm not afraid of a little work thankfully, just paranoid I will put it back together and there will be parts left over!
I am in Xplane, so no FSUIPC, I do have XPUIPC as a plug in though, but that does not have near the functionality
Quote from: blueskydriver on July 27, 2021, 11:57:39 AMWould love to see some pics or videos of your progress. How about posting a few?
As requested, hopefully they don't come in as some massive size!
![](https://i.ibb.co/sWvgqVH/Pedestal-and-Throttle.jpg)
![](https://i.ibb.co/zsmG8b2/Electronics.jpg)
![](https://i.ibb.co/2vT2cGk/OVH-and-MCP-EFIS.jpg)
In one of these you can see the homebrew ovh - made with plastic pieces ordered from TAP Plastics and just drilled out with a regular old drill and the labels were made using a label maker from stables. The electonics behind it is utilizing an Arduino with Multiplexers, driven by SimVim (now HCSI). It was more a Proof of Concept for me than anything.
Another one of the pictures shows the V2 electronics which will go behind the new OVH panels that are on order. Same concept as the V1, just neater (ideally) and adding in annunciators as well as the 7 Seg Displays
Again, thanks for the kind words and encouragement!
Matt
What is the USB type in the old PC vs the new one? 1.0, 1.1, 2.0 or 3.0?
Quote from: blueskydriver on July 28, 2021, 07:51:25 AMWhat is the USB type in the old PC vs the new one? 1.0, 1.1, 2.0 or 3.0?
Went from a 2.0 to a 3.0. I thought that might have had something to do with it, but I did try a 2.0 port in the new PC and the issue persists. Though that old PC was old enough that it could have been a 1.0 port...
Not sure about the JetMax USB protocol, but it can be that or the hub or even the USB wire(s) besides the PC port.
Check the colors of the USB devices, ports and wires. Here is a tidbit for you:
https://www.everyusb.com/difference-usb-1-2-3-generations
Also, if you know how to manipulate the new PC's BIOS, you could see if it has a setting to turn on USB backwards compatibility. Believe it or not some newer motherboards still use this. It's not on by default because when you turn it on the USB bus speeds slows down; the lower the protocol the slower the speed (1.0 slowest and 3.1 is the fastest).
If you turn it on and the JetMax works then you'll know; however, if that's not the case, try unplugging the JetMax, then shut the PC down. Start the PC up and plug the JetMax back in; this will reinitialize it (you might have too redo your XPUIPC settings if you do this).
Post back what happens...
John
John's comments are worth considering... Since I have owned and used a JetMax TQ in my Sim for a few years, I have some experience with this product in an FSX and P3D environment.
As I recall, the issues that I have had with JetMax TQ were with the USB interface. Like most FDS USB requirements, to ensure reliability, they need a Powered USB HUB to interface with. Also, from my experience, USB 2.0 interface worked the best. That said, USB 3.0 should work as well.
To ensure that the JetMax TQ works correctly, it is a good idea to check that all the Switches and Potentiometers show up in Windows, and that they do what they are suppose to do from the JetMax TQ "game controller". If it displays correctly in Windows, then it should also function correctly under FSUIPC calibration and control.
Mike
I tried your suggestions, John, and no joy!
I have a bunch of cables laying around (who gets rid of them?!?) and will try various cables after work today.
Previously I had the TQ plugged into a USB 2.0 Hub, which moved over to the new system and the noise showed up. I've since upgraded the hub to a USB 3.0 powered, same issue. I've tried various ports directly in the PC as well as through the hub and its the same each time. So I think the last option is to try the cable itself - certainly cannot hurt!
On the flip side, where'd good place to get a TQ from? I am considering FSC (I am price conscious, but willing to pay a premium if its worth it). Just trying to get an idea of what I need to set for a goal to reach
Building my sim is like weeks of doing nothing (boredom), then a few days of sheer building (terror) ;D
Did a lot of other little things that needed to be done over the last few days, thanks to the bit of incentive from the Hue lighting.
Finally permanently mounted the FO seat on my poor mans car seat rails, and created a support out of aluminum for the side-movement handle on the Capt side. The forward movement handle will be a different story since it doesn't move side to side with the base. Fortunately the clevis is snugly attached to the car seat handle so it generally stays upright for now.
Also mounted a second buttkicker mini-LFE in the Capt seat. One is already mounted under the seat, but I wanted a little more emphasis on the upper body.
And finally, created some 3D-printed clips to hold the Philips HUE LED strip to my shell. I'll probably redo the clips so it puts the LED strip higher up inside the cockpit so it's not visible from the rear, but for now the proof of concept worked. Now to do some more testing!
I have to say, I'm always amazed by the level of the work that people here do in terms of fabrication, and setting up off-the-shelf hardware. It puts my little DIY setup to shame.
Quote from: Neil Hewitt on July 29, 2021, 02:40:41 PMI have to say, I'm always amazed by the level of the work that people here do in terms of fabrication, and setting up off-the-shelf hardware. It puts my little DIY setup to shame.
Your little diy setup puts my non-existent sim to shame. :)
So, after some experimenting and all...I realized I had some potentiometers laying around. So I took another look at the throttle to see if I could replace the p'meter without taking it completely apart. Took a little work, and burned out one p'meter (I think I had polarity reversed or else it was just a bad one) but long story short, spoiler axis is good to go! I haven't actually flown with it yet, but calibrated in both Windows and XP and tested ok with no noise showing.
Thank you for the kind words and support everyone!
You may have burnt your pot out by connecting the wiper to 5v. Just make sure the wiper connects to the input of your interface card.
Connecting your wiper to 5v will burn out the pot.
Quote from: RayS on November 29, 2020, 09:04:55 PMBeen doing some flying instead of building...
Just a short departure out of Vegas, and a 180 to fly back down the strip before heading home.
RayS
What SIM is that, that looks amazing.
Regards
Paul
Fellow pilots,
If you are free this Sunday (August 1st) , you will want to tune in to this channel:
https://www.twitch.tv/search?term=boeingskypilot
Probably around 12PM PST.. We usually do 2 flights, but between flights we have a special surprise. ;)
Quote from: Xpress690 on July 31, 2021, 11:07:39 AMWhat SIM is that, that looks amazing.
This is X-Plane using the Carenado Beechcraft 1900D flight model.
Glad you like it!
For the curious, this is the video Paul is referring to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9JHIx-xMtA&t=338s
Finally, after introducing myself back in 2017, have gotten a working PC again and am back to my cockpit building plans. I also have finished the space where my future cockpit should live in..... an old haystack transformed into a garage and kitchen with a large attic above it......
Testing my old hardware and new PC was the first thing that needed to be done......
Check.
Nect: cutting out the panel that I drew up 4 years ago already.....
Half Check.
Amazingly, I just spent the whole night doing nothing but updating my flight simulator software...mainly ProSim737 v3.08. Along with every other thing under the "software" sun, and yet, I still got much more too do.
Like, update all 11 PC's, 1 laptop and two iPads, update any add-ons to the latest versions, update NAVIGRAPH, update Project Magenta because I still use it, get P3D v4.5 installed (can't believe I've owned it way over a year, yet haven't done the initial install).
Once all that's done I might do some flying again. Or, rebuild my main flight sim PC be it one system or go with a three system setup.
Crazy how far behind you can get in one year!
On a related note, I know there are some new members who are working on getting their sim up and flying. And, let me say it may sim daunting too get a handle on things, but just hang in there as it just takes time to get up to takeoff speed so too speak...lol!
Even for long time builders like myself, I can say that after all these years doing flight simulators you can never stop learning. Albeit, I thought my overall knowledge was pretty good; however, like anything else, time changes things and I just have to relearn over and over. Still, that's the fun part...always learning something new that you thought you knew....
Lastly, I will try to help others more once all the outside projects slow down for Karen (Simlady) and I. Which is usually about the same for a lot of members...; although, come Fall/Winter it'll be the most active time of the year for cockpit builders in general.
In the mean time, search through a lot of my older posts, there are dozens of topics that I went through and got a lot help from the members here. You'll find many answers they provided throughout, as well as a lot of pictures and links that'll be of great help to your project.
Kind Regards,
John aka Blueskydriver
I didn't do a darn thing for my sim today!
Hours earlier, I actually FLEW it! Amidst my conversion to a multi-sim platform, decided to fly a VATSIM FNO event. Went really well except I missed the "Landing Gear Down" part of the checklist and almost belly-flopped. Caught it just in time.
Pay attention to those checklists, kids!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Read various comments to my queries over and over, started to learn Arduino, bought a VGA-to-HDMI cable to try and use my old 15" monitor. Old? Make that ancient !
Now need to see if WideFS still exists. I might need it in the future.
Just updated to Prosim738 v3. Went smoother than I expected.
I bought A Pilot's Life - exactly what I needed to give me some purpose while not having to meet VA timelines and rules. It also gives me a chance to buy some scenery to support my flights. A little ticked off that out of all the liveries for Prosim, Matt hasn't done Condor. Oh well. It's just eye candy I never see anyway.I'm now downloading EDDF and the Balearic Islands to support a couple of the flights I'm scheduled for.
I looked into POSCON and was reminded I signed up for the beta a while ago. Haven't installed the client yet- no real ATC online.
That's about it. I have some odds and ends to work out on the sim but wondering if it's worth it.... yes... already planning for the final move next summer I think, and it's final hanger in my house in Greece - if it's still standing after the fires.
Hey Warren,
First, glad to see you back here on the CB, and even though you're sim is up/down/up/down at times, please keep posting. I'm missing the old gang...
Knowingly, you retired once, but are you going to retire again and plant your feet in Greece? If so, give your sim lots of love there since it's stayed with you all these years. From setup to boxing to setup again, it's gone through a lot with you, as well as how much real flying or boating (shipping) it's actually done.
Lastly, if you're in the mist of thinking about which simulator program (what you have versus MSFS 2020) to go with, just stick with what you have. Even though some guys have MSFS 2020 working in a full-size sim, in its present form, it's not worth the hassle that's currently going on with that program. It's driving users crazy; like the recent world update 5 and the hotfix that followed it this weekend...breaking everything and all the CTD HELL!
All that eye candy looks sweet, but it's all just sour balls and lemonheads for now...LOL!
Kind Regards,
John
I'm slowly adding more detail to my 73 here and there.
This last week I closed up the interior sidewalls of my FDS shell with the flat panel pieces that came with the FDS kit. I wish the interior linings were a bit closer to the real thing, but it's good enough.
I cut out an opening and added some 3D printed louvers that are connected via a linkage so they all move together when you move one. Just because I could.
And I added a fake 3D printed ashtray and windowsill clip holders.
Next I'll work on 3D printing the raceway humps to bring that to life.
I guess I'll get to the flying part again sooner or later, lol.
Nice and clean... Looking good! Great job!
Mike
Neat!
Thanks John. I am planning the second retirement now - yes, in Greece. Just tired of this whole work thing getting in the way of my sim!
I bought MS2020 but still haven't installed it. Not in a hurry. I'm very happy with P3D4 and plan to eventually get to v5. I like the add on scenery I've already got.
I am not looking forward to packing this thing up again, but I'm good at it now, so oh, well. I am yearning for some GA love though and already planning to build a GA sim once settled. Just need to find space for both.
Working on the MIP. Got all the displays calibrated and working properly. One graphics card with 6 outputs and a lot of DP to VGA adapters and it is working nicely. Now to the wiring of this and installation into the shell. Exciting to get some progress going on this project after sitting dormant for several years.
Looks like a very nice start Jim. good luck with the ongoing build.
Joe.
Hi Jim,
Great looking display setup... Nice job of constructing the MIP!
Mike
Clean MIP ! Keep on feeding pics !
Jack :D
No earth shattering things happening here...... but I did have some progress:
1) Bought and installed the GTN750 software by PMS50 (a French developer I think). It worked with FS2020, and is ready to power a RealsimGear unit.
2) Subscribed to Navigraph for airport charts and such
3) Got an API for weather service, also displayed on the GTN750
4) Fiddled with my AirManager 4.0, watched a Beginners Video and learned two things:
a) I can make multiple panels for single and twins. I figure if I can build a twin and when flying a single just leave out some of the gauges, it will work and still won't look too bad.
b) I learned that with Version 4 it is relatively easy to add switches and encoders powered by an Arduino board, without having to write the code myself (which is a big time saver).
5) I keep losing my (USB attached) controls, so I think I need a new, powered USB hub..... the one I have seems flakey :-(
We're still having heat waves, so my computer work is limited, even with an aorco blowing......
This wkd I threw together a cockpit shell back wall/cabinet frame design for my FDS shell. It'll have some fake CBs on the cockpit side, and double as a computer cabinet/instructor station/storage shelves on the other side. Making it a roll-away design so I can get into the cockpit for maintenance and just roll it back.
Now I just need to start cutting away :)
I used aluminum L shape bars bolted together for my galley
Real rigid and good looking
(Right click to open)
![](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/923/1U8oEQ.jpg)
Great idea Jack. And much lighter weight than my wood solution, too. I'll take a look at that for version 2.0 ;D You do some fantastic work!
Quote from: FSAddon_boss on August 21, 2021, 11:54:42 AM5) I keep losing my (USB attached) controls, so I think I need a new, powered USB hub..... the one I have seems flakey :-(
I had this issue as well. You'll need to disable Windows Power Management on USB devices....
Just another way Microsoft "thinks" they are making our lives
easier miserable.
Disable Windows Power Management on USB ports. (https://www.windowscentral.com/how-prevent-windows-10-turning-usb-devices)
Hey Everyone,
Thank you for continuing to post in this thread! Even though I might not post a reply or comment at times about your progress, I do read every posting.
It means the world too me, so please keep posting, as well as please help Cockpit Builders going strong by taking time to thank Trevor for keeping this website up and running....
Thanks Trevor!
John
Thanks Trevor!
Ditto. Thanks Trevor for all the good work.
Definitely appreciated Trevor! I'm always available if you need any assistance.
Finished up my landing light gang bar. Works like a charm and the spring loaded return is perfect.
Continuing work on my roll-away CB panel/rear bulkhead. It's coming along nicely. And I realized I'll be able to put in the jump seat and still allow room for all my computers/storage. Excited to see this come together.
By the way, does anyone have any detailed dimensions of the individual 737NG CB panels? The Cockpit Companion iPad edition has great illustrations for all the breakers and labels and Markus Pilot's reference has jump seat dimensions, but the actual dimensions of the panels I can't find anywhere yet. Worst case I can eyeball it and get pretty close.
I did those panels years ago. Not OEM dimensions but they all fit perfect in my FDS shell backwall. Some 400+ breakers.
How are you going to do this
Do you have the repro breakers
https://www.flightdecksolutions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3995&start=144
second pic on:
https://www.flightdecksolutions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3995&start=161
That's along the lines of what I was thinking.
I don't have repro breakers yet. I'm thinking I'll 3D print them and then use my Silhoutte paper cutting machine to create and cut the vinyl labels.
Definitely tedious, but no doubt worth the added immersion.
Hey Tony,
I have the OEM B737 Classic CB Panels and they're not much different than the NG. I could get you measurements this coming weekend. However, if I were you I'd buy the FDS kit ones and call it a day...
Actually, I did buy the FDS ones and only sold them here once I found the real CB panels through a special deal that required a local pickup in Phoenix, AZ. Albeit, I live in Wisconsin, so it was a fun road trip.
I sold them to Fred, and you can see his work here (please goto post #189 in this thread too see his pics).
Quote from: FredK on April 24, 2018, 07:00:26 PMIt was a rainy day here today, so it provided an opportunity for me to finish my CB panels.
I had been thinking about finishing the back walls of my cockpit for some time now. John's "spring sale" here spurred me on. I acquired the FDS circuit breaker panel kit that he offered for sale.
There was quite a bit of work involved with building out the kit. I needed to fabricate Lexan panels (they are not part of the kit), apply the decals, and assemble and mount the CBs. Much of this work was mindless activity, but sometimes I find that relaxing and very therapeutic.
I had to reorganize the positioning of some of the panels to fit my wall space since I have a larger than standard opening into the cockpit. So there was some actual thinking with all that.
I am happy with how it all turned out. It has added a "cozier feel" dimension to my cockpit.
Oh....and many thanks to Jack for his helpful advice on a number of aspects.
Fred K
They turned out super nice!
John
Thanks John. If you have a little spare time and can get me some rough measurements that would be fantastic. It'll at least get me in the ballpark.
Yes, I did consider the FDS panels and trust me, if I had the spare $$ right now I would take the easy way out and buy them. They are pretty nice.
Fortunately the CB panels aren't a critical piece and I can take my time, so I figure I'll save the money for more usable things like linked yokes and pedals (eventually).
I made a working 3D printed contact breaker. I posted about it here (somewhere). It needs a final iteration of the design, but it's actual size and has a switch inside so it can be used to signal the sim, and a solenoid (and a spring) so it can simulate the breaker, er, breaking.
It can be printed as just a cap, for looks, or just a switch (manually operated), or with the solenoid for automatic operation.
I enjoyed designing it, and I have a better 3D printer now, so I really should review and refine it. And double check that the tiny solenoid is still easily available.
Awesome Tony,
Okay, I'll get those measurements for you.
If you get a chance will you post the forum link too your 3D printer work on these CB panels; I would love too see your work on it....
John
Quote from: blueskydriver on August 25, 2021, 02:51:29 PMOkay, I'll get those measurements for you.
If you get a chance will you post the forum link too your 3D printer work on these CB panels; I would love too see your work on it....
Thanks John! Once I come up with a design I'll update you. I think someone on Thingiverse made some repro breakers so I might cheat and use his if they are close enough.
Quote from: ame on August 25, 2021, 02:46:20 PMI made a working 3D printed contact breaker. I posted about it here (somewhere).
Sounds interesting. I'll have to look for your post. Might be something worth considering.
You did give me an idea about perhaps making the CB panels a swing-open design so I could wire them at some future point. That is, if Prosim ever supports it. Don't know if it's even worth the hassle given how rarely they are used, if ever, but that's never stopped us before, lol.
I think it would be a huge and not necessarily worthwhile effort to wire all CBs. However, it might be fun/interesting to wire some key circuits with switches, so that they could affect the sim, especially circuits that people like to turn on and off with the breaker instead of some main switch somewhere. And put solenoids in some to generate fake emergencies (or even simulate a cantankerous airplane).
emmm wiring cbs real or simulated
Quote from: ame on August 25, 2021, 03:12:59 PMI think it would be a huge and not necessarily worthwhile effort to wire all CBs. However, it might be fun/interesting to wire some key circuits with switches, so that they could affect the sim, especially circuits that people like to turn on and off with the breaker instead of some main switch somewhere. And put solenoids in some to generate fake emergencies (or even simulate a cantankerous airplane).
I agree with you on that, and not a bad idea. Will have to think about how to integrate that :) Thanks!
Quote from: Bob Reed on January 31, 2018, 08:33:43 PMWhat a difference a day makes....
Awesome.
Me, I've been fiddling with AirManager all afternoon, still cannot get it to work on MSFS2020. But it works fine in X-Plane.
Also found an old 40" tv and connected that instead of my 27" monitor, just to get a feel of things. Looks already much more immersive than just a monitor.
At the same time, my USB hub seems to crap out unexpectedly all the time, so need to source a new one.
My Saitek Multipanel is recognized and working in MSFS2020 (using SPAD.Next), but not in X-Plane.
All in all, I still don't have the two sims running stable, which is a first step in continuing to set up further hardware that eventually should go into a home cockpit.
And all this looked a lot easier 10 years ago, when I was still 'young' :)
Quote from: RayS on July 27, 2021, 10:13:01 PMThe Hue system does take a little bit of tweaking to get the lighting just right, but overall I am really excited with the results.
Also, I fired up a Pink Floyd video of Comfortably Numb, and sat in the pit with the 210-degree wraparound screen and minus the actual pit, it felt like actually being there.
Tonight I added 2 side-bar Hue lights and was pleasantly surprised during a night landing to see the side lights flicker a bit as I passed each runway light.
I had planned on selling a home-brew lighting solution in my retirement but the Philips system is just too good, while my system seems inferior now!
Hey Ray, which hue lights do you have and how many of each, as well as please show where and how you mounted/placed them?
John
Hey Bernard... I love the smell of rebar and concrete in the morning... ;D
Don't forget that linear drain in front of your large door. Not that you ever have any massive rain showers in Texas.
Mike
yes sir drainage is actually a huge deal as you know am taking it down to a base point and going from there
Ah Drainage, 1000' of pipe later, you'll learn to like it! LOL!
Okay, for my sim, I purchased the Philips Hue Lights; 4 lights, 1 bulb and 2 led string light kits.
Started playing with setting them up and learned you need a WIFI Router, Windows 10, the PC/Mac Hue Sync software, an iPhone or Android and the Philips Hue app, as well as the Hue Bridge (also called Hub) 2.0.
So far I tried it with the different modes in Hue Sync and currently, I'm using TV mode. With gaming mode there is nothing for flight sims. In TV mode it worked amazingly well with MSFS 2020.
Supposedly, there is a HDMI device that would go in between your PC (or whatever HDMI out) to your TV/Projector and is used as an relay to Bridge of sorts. I might look into that....
In short, the whole thing is a little mind numbing, but doable. Here is my simplistic overview:
1. Your WIFI Router is the main source of communication. Your PC, cell phone and Hue Bridge (HUB) all must be on the same network. The Bridge has DHCP or can be assigned an IP Address. Get them all working together before you procedure.
2. The Light Devices (call them LD's for short) all must be Color Ambience Bulbs, Lights or LED String Lights that communicate with the Bridge and are usable with the PC Hue Sync software (not all bulbs work with it).
3. Get the cell phone App and Bridge setup together, and then get all your LD's connected too it, and make sure they all work correctly.
4. Get Hue Sync software working with the cell phone App, so that it sees your LD's. Setup a room(s) in Hue Sync and assign LD's to the room, along with assigning light locations (height/distance) in conjunction to the TV/Projectors (see instructions for this)
5. Once all is setup, start Hue Sync and minimize it, then start your flight sim program. Then, as a first step, goto a nighttime location and while sitting on the runway, and using a thunderstorm preset with lots of lightning, see if the LD's start following or working in sync with the on screen lightning flashes. If it's working, you're good, but you may wish to tweak the settings further.
Lastly, it's all about where to put the LD's in the cockpit. I'm going to figure that out and make a video about it. However, my full size flight sim is still on Windows 7, so that might be a little hard.
Although, I'm going to see what happens if I have TeamViewer on between the W7 and W10 PC's, and see if Hue Sync will still read things like normal. This is just a way too test the LD's in the actual sim before I switch it over to W10.
John
PS Ray, if you're reading this, please do tell more, as I'm following your lead.... ;D
Quote from: blueskydriver on September 02, 2021, 06:03:44 AMPS Ray, if you're reading this, please do tell more, as I'm following your lead.... ;D
I'll be posting a video hopefully this weekend of how I did it.
Ironically, I find myself watching Pink Floyd videos in my sim with the lights going full-effect than I do flying. 8)
started interlocking floor things
Working on flight simulator computer tonight and installing W10 Pro on a SSD drive, and will keep W7 w/FSX on separate SSD for a dual boot setup for now.
All I can say is...W10 sucks...sometimes! Drivers, it's always drivers causing issues. Keep getting Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) errors...uuuggghhhh!
Anyway, downloading new drivers for all the hardware, and once everything is (hopefully) working, I'll tryout MSFS 2020 in the full-size cockpit even though the video will be distorted on the side views.
Also, still need to install P3D v4 and give it a go, but for the folks who are currently running it, are you using it with W10? If yes, are there any issues that stand out and I should look for?
John
Hi John
Running P3D4.5 with SimA on WIN10 in mulit-channel for some time now. Absolutely no problems...very stable. With past Windows versions my experience was that Windows updates would occasionally reek havock requiring a rebuild of the OS. Not so with WIN10 although there is a constant flow of annoying updates that have little value for a flight sim application.
Make sure you have the correct drivers for your MOBO of course, and do not push overclocking beyond the capability of your hardware.
That said....Do I fully trust Windows? The answer is No! I have numerous airport and other add-ons (about 140), and multiply that by 4 for my multi-channel visual system. I periodically do a full clean backup of all my computers for protection. The only time I have used that in the last 3 years or so has been for a hard drive failure on one of the computers, not the OS.
Fred K
Quote from: blueskydriver on September 04, 2021, 10:23:39 PMAlso, still need to install P3D v4 and give it a go, but for the folks who are currently running it, are you using it with W10? If yes, are there any issues that stand out and I should look for?
I ran P3D v4 for a long time on Win10. No issues that I can report related to the OS. As mentioned, just make sure all your hardware drivers are updated and you should be good. For me, it has been the most stable OS so far.
Also, highly recommend you disable the automatic updates and only do them manually when you are ready if you haven't already. Just Google "Disable Windows 10 automatic updates." Like others, I have found automatic updates can potentially break things without you realizing it. The big one for me is my networking between PCs often suddenly stops working correctly. So I prefer to be prepared to deal with those kind of issues on my terms. It also gives me an opportunity to do a system backup before I do the updates in case something goes south and I need to roll back.
Made some more progress on my sim back wall this week. It's starting to take shape. Anyone know where I can get a 737 middle folding jump seat? I also need to find the second observer seat but I'll probably have to end up making one.
shut down i 10 including 5 lanes in Los Angeles for my thing
Sneak peek of Bernard hidden project installed on a trailer
good guess jack ;-)
And the plot thickens!
maybe cooler than Elvis and takes some beating imho
it has been suggested by those that know I need to give bigger hint does this help
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On an unrelated note to Bernard's dark secret, I got Prepar3D installed finally...what I mean is, I purchased it when v4 first came out and never downloaded it until today...am I really getting that slow?!
Any hoot, it's installed on the same PC as my FSX, but on a new SSD drive that also has W10; the same W10 that was a fight to get going. Kept getting BSOD, but after updating the BIOS and related motherboard files from ASROCK, it works really well now.
Okay, I gotta read up on using all my FSX add-ons with P3D, but does anyone have any tidbits on which addons they felt worked great and those that didn't work at all? Be nice to start with those working ones first since I already racked my brain with the W10 hoot-nanny....
John
all add on work well.with Lms pd3 etc
I think Bernard is right in that by now, anything made for P3Dv4 is stable so you shouldn't have any major problems.
Pretty much same for P3Dv5 at this point, which if you're doing a clean install I'd recommend you might as well move to. Unless your graphics card doesn't support DX12, which is required.
Slowly undoing all the conversions I started when I decided to try FS2020.
I'm leaving 2020 in the dust bin. Going back full time to X-Plane.
Just got the autopilot re-converted back and added a few more functionality tidbits.
Granted, the project has made the B1900 sim better overall, so I have few regrets during this brief interlude into a split 2020/X-Plane world.
I'm not getting any younger so... this feels right.
Next up is my scrapped FMC project for X-Plane. I have a gorgeous Universal FMC that I'm coding for X-Plane / B1900
here ya go
just a quick note please don't ask how because I will not tell you but the why is because I can lol
Bernard, there is a LOT going on in that photo!
1. Are you being pulled over for too wide a load or flying too low?
2. Are you removing an aircraft that landed on the freeway?
3. That semi in back.. at first glance it looks like it's hauling a B29 nose?
4. Looking closer at that semi.. it looks like a Mack truck hauling a very large round thing
5. And that very low smoke stream across the freeway... what is that?
6. On the aircraft in tow, you can see a prominent "B"... Is that a Redbull aircraft?
1... is state police escorts from beginning to end point so permit load
2...No opted to transport gear down
3...Unrelated to me ( thats my story)
4...yes
5...close air support ;-)
6... no
Was doing something in the garage today during lunch and thought this might make a nice image...
love it
Whatever it is Bernard is up to... I'll take care of it with my Predator Drone... ;D Just kidding of course...
Photo of me at the controls taken at Holloman AFB at their Drone Training Center. I had a chance to blow up a few tanks in Iraq (simulated), but the experience left me with a strange feeling that this is what they do for real in the world today. As a side note, it takes two people to fire a missile at a target. Both people have to have pressed the trigger, and release at the same time -- after which, the missile is launched and about 30 seconds later the target is destroyed.
On this note... The world is weaponizing AI at an alarming rate...
Mike
lol thats for girls this a proper one ;-)
Hey Bernard,
Interesting photo of Command Center Ops... The unit I was in is "ship container size" to be deployed remotely. That was years ago, so no doubt that technology has vastly changed.
Best wishes with your new project. As usual for anything that you do -- it will be Spectacular!
Mike
yeah and those bloody containers get hot ..I was always fond of the Reaper ..but that s chat over beers where reputations are won and lost and the stories get better lol
https://www.tiktok.com/@tx_biker1/video/7006384564805356806
as its now public lol
So....next suspense !
What are you going to do with it ???
:P
Quote from: jackpilot on September 12, 2021, 03:05:17 PMSo....next suspense !
What are you going to do with it ???
:P
He's going to fly it off the deck of his carrier. 8)
@Jack ... well I am going to ask really "important" questions as an example:
What colour is Boeing Black ? Once I have the solution to the correct Black because God forbid I use the wrong Black... I will put forward more important questions
Bernard.... very jealous. Is that a T38 or an F5. Can't really tell.
Hey Warren,
Glad too see you logging in ;D
As for Bernard's new project, just look away, just look away...lol! Otherwise, you'll wanna do something like that!
I do admire Bernard's adventures as it reminds me of my own...remember the B727 on a trailer in a snow storm, hauling it to Wisconsin...totally crazy it was.
Anyway, it'll be awesome once he gets everything setup. His kids will love it as much as he will; talk about having an amazing Dad!
John
PS Is it a F18, it looks like one 8)
She is a T38B but has all the operational abilities of the F5 :-)
Quote from: bernard S on September 16, 2021, 11:44:36 AMShe is a T38B but has all the operational abilities of the F5 :-)
Sweet! Love that little jet. Looking forward to watching it come together.
bingo can beat hard points ;-) yup am sourcing "wing candy"
Hey Bernard,
How about an update on your B747 sim, what have you done for it lately? Or, is it in hibernation?
John
its there complete and it does not blow stuff up
How about a video or two? Love too see it in operation after all the time you've invested.... ;D
John
My cockpit got some loving attention today ;D
Well, sort of... I'm still working on updating the main sim PC to Windows 10 and after solving the problematic issues. I had a good time trying to get my entire C: drive shared, but in the end it's still doable. If you need help anytime, just ask as it's not hard once you know how and where too make the sharing and security changes.
Anyway, I always network config my addons, in other words, keep a lot of them off the main sim PC and on a client PC. So, the client PC is still waiting to get upgraded to W10 and it's still on W7.
Now, I've always used ActiveSky Weather, REX, GEX, UTX, and etc in a network setup. Thus, the client injects everything into the main sim PC via the network, and it's always worked. With W7 to W10 it's a little different, yet still workable.
Hang in there, I'm getting to the good part...lol! Okay, after running all the Windows 7 updates on the client that I skipped over in the past, the USB keyboard stopped working; not a bad keyboard or driver issue either. Turns out, after troubleshooting this for 3 days (searching Google and YT), I had to modify the keyboard registry.
Yep, who would've thought a Windows Update would do such a thing...Microsoft is impeccable about things like this...wait, that was a dream I had last night...ROTFLOL! Of course it was the updates, but after trying system restore points it didn't work. Nor did any older PS2 keyboards I tried; basically, it was one simple registry change that fix it.
Here is a link to a YT video that shows how too fix it for W7,8,& 10
https://youtu.be/k-TL-zhNMxo
Even though it says for laptop keyboard, it works the same for your PC keyboard. Also, use the on screen keyboard to type until your physical keyboard is working again.
Why the lengthy explanation about the keyboard issue; well, because it's happening more often and even in W10, yes Windows 10. Therefore, if it happens to you, you might remember this post.
Alrighty then, moving on...I got the client working and finally setup Active Sky 2012 (AS2012) for FSX into P3D v4.5 (yep still rocking that nearly 10 year old program). Funny thing is, AS2012 recognized P3D right out, which I was surprised since HiFi says you must buy a new version for P3D. If you just follow the original manual instructions exactly it'll work in either FSX or P3D via network just fine. Next up is to get REX and GSX working....
Lastly, some folks might ask,"why not upgrade to P3D v5 now, since you're upgrading to W10?" Well, the short answer is this; I'm still using my I7 2600K main Sim PC with Nvidia 580 card for P3D v4.5; whereas, v5 requirements are much higher. So, instead of worrying about going that route, I'm going too wait for MSFS2020 to catch up too us Cockpit Builders, and then I'll purchase all new up-to-date PC hardware. Besides, I figure there is no real need to goto v5, if v4.5 is working just fine, along with all my still usable addons that will work (fingers crossed)....
John
My CFY throttle shipped? Does that count? never been so nervous about a purchase in my life. Having to wire some serious money to an international bank..whew.
Also have about half my MIP wired and interfaced.
The goal is to have this puppy up and running before the end of the year.
Quote from: Jason L on September 23, 2021, 07:18:42 PMMy CFY throttle shipped? Does that count? never been so nervous about a purchase in my life. Having to wire some serious money to an international bank..whew.
Keep us posted. I'm curious how you'll like it. I have also considered CFY as a potential future purchase but yeah, that's a lot of money to drop on an international buy, so I'd certainly be hesitant too.
Hey Jason,
Anything counts towards your sim, even posting here is related to it...lol.
Glad to hear you're going for the CFY route as it'll help prove their reliability. Once you get it, make an unboxing and review video for us....
John
Quote from: blueskydriver on September 23, 2021, 12:26:00 PMLastly, some folks might ask,"why not upgrade to P3D v5 now, since you're upgrading to W10?"
Also note that P3Dv5 requires a graphics card capable of DX12. I learned that after trying to install v5 on my separate gaming rig with a 1080TI in it.
And yeah, these little computer gremlins are enough to drive a person mad sometimes.
The question about the status of Bernard's 747, made me to recall the time back in 1995 when my wife and I had a chance to sit in the cockpit of a 747 in Hong Kong. No way they would let you do that today...
Below is a retouched photo of our cockpit visit, taken by the Captain. The Captain and Crew were very nice.
Bernard might be able to tell what model 747 that was.
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Mike
Quote from: blueskydriver on September 23, 2021, 10:48:24 PMHey Jason,
Anything counts towards your sim, even posting here is related to it...lol.
Glad to hear you're going for the CFY route as it'll help prove their reliability. Once you get it, make an unboxing and review video for us....
John
Will do. It's heading over the pond as I type this.
a part of retaining wall still another 30ft to go
I realise that I talked about my circuit breaker design, but I never actually posted any details.
It's been sitting in a box for a while as I had a big list of small changes that I wanted to make. I'm sure I could get them out of the way if there was some interest.
The key design points were that it would fit in the original envelope of an authentic Klixon breaker. Did not use too many exotic parts. Was easy to assemble.
What I ended up with is a design that uses a standard subminiature microswitch as its contacts, a tiny solenoid for the trip mechanism, a ballpoint pen spring to pop the breaker out and the smallest safety pin I could find for the latching mechanism.
The most exotic part is the solenoid, which is still listed at AliExpress and which I'd expect to remain available for a while.
Anyone who wanted to use the design would need to do two things. First, decide how to connect the microswitch to some interface board and then into the simulator. Second, provide a short voltage pulse to the solenoid under whatever condition they wanted to simulate the breaker opening.
The model can be used in three ways. As a dummy, glued closed with no switch, spring, or solenoid. As a simple switch (push to latch, pull to open) with no solenoid. As an automated simulation of a real breaker (push to latch, pull to open, automatic opening under control of something else).
Rather than writing 3000 more words, here are some pictures:
Quote from: ame on September 24, 2021, 08:14:48 PMI realise that I talked about my circuit breaker design, but I never actually posted any details.
It is really great!!!
I made a similar, but more bulky design.
I 3d print them in blocks of whatever number I need.
And they work with a reed sensor and magnent, instead of microswitch.
But It is quite similar.
To trigger them I use MCP23017 expander and ULN2003a to power relays.
I install them in the panel with metallic 10mm led supports.
A video:
https://youtu.be/Eag0DRNq86s?t=124
Arturo.
Hey Andrew and Arturo,
You guys are totally going all out and doing an amazing job with the CB projects! I'm very glad too see these are working items now....
Will you be sharing your 3D files on Thingiverse? I hope so, as it'd be fun just to make some and order the hardware, and then see them working.
Hey Bernard,
Looks like a fighter aircraft hangar from that pic! Can't wait too see it all when your finished.
John
Does Prosim even have CB functionality? I want to say maybe only the Pro version does.
I'm getting ready to build my CB panels now and trying to decide if I want to go through the tediousness of making them myself, or sourcing a real set somewhere. In my case, they'll probably be just for show, though I might consider interfacing at some later point if the software allows for it.
I don't know what support for circuit breakers exist in various simulators, but it should be easy to check by locating the simulated panel on the cockpit display and clicking on the breakers to see if they respond.
Wiring up a "real" simulated circuit breaker would then be the same as wiring up any pushbutton on a panel. When the contacts in the circuit breaker change state then a message is sent to the simulator (e.g. via a dataref in XPlane).
Several things are getting done on my SH-2H helicopter.
The Targeting Pod FLIR system has been implemented and is about 90% done. Movement of the pod camera is working with the new joystick controller along with sensor changes (color daylight, IR white hot and IR black hot). The targeting pod appears in the tactical MFD screen (a modified Cougar MFD). The joystick panel on the center console is custom built and is nearly complete.
I have also finished installing the Garmin auxillary GPS status panel which is a emote readout of the status of the GTN-750 which is on the pilot side of the main panel. The devicewas custom built by Ruscool for me and stil needs to be interfaced to the im.
Lots of work on the turbine engine models. Can't believe how poorly P3D add-on folks implement turbine engines, especially on helicopters.
loving it :-) :-)
Jim you're seriously rocking the chopper sim! Looks awesome!
I envy your project big time, as the first sim I really wanted too do was the Longbow. But, no real chopper guys back 10-15 yrs ago to get help from or work together with.
What you're doing today should make the chopper builders come out and join your club...I hope they will....
John
you do know that msfs and pd3 have add on so you can blow stuff up right ?
Bernard, I have seen very early stuff for P3D running on old versions that gave you that ability. I also know that the P3D Professional Plus license has all of those nice features.
If you could provide a link to weapons add-ons for P3D v4 or v5 I would be most appreciative.
Yes blowing things up with this helo will be fun. I'm already working on the torpedo drop system and will some day have a rudimentary sonar dipping system as well.
hi hi your correct pro version required and it been updated..couple of points on it physics model on missles etc not really accurate but it can be fixed if your build is for an entity that can get you TENS Manuel's that will help ..or Jane's is going to become your new girlfriend as parameters for almost every stand off system is in there ..does that help you ?
Ha - what's a few more hundred dollars to get to blow things up!
Guess next year I will be upgrading my license!!!
dont forget with weapons platform comes cooler sensors;-)
Heck - I'm having a devil of a time getting the track function to work on the cheap FLIR that comes with the academic version:)
All functions work except track, and even then the code nor the documentation doesn't say how you break track once achieved.
Any ideas?
just putting it out there FLIR is the camera not the sensor ..thus think of FLIR as a targeting sensor attached to camera that zoom function
Fully understand that - but still have no idea how to get the track function that is built in to work.
More eye candy for helicopter sim. The larger MFD in the middle has a helicopter symbol in the lower left quadrant of the display. My intent is to have this graphically show sensor and weapons status. My first cut at this is operational. Located under the nose is a combined tracking and weather radar. On the nose is the targeting pod with FLIR. When the radar is radiating you now see yellow "radar waves" emanating from the left and right of the nose. When the FLIR is operational you see orange "waves" going forward. Eventually the MAD sensor and torpedoes will be represented also. It's fun doing this kind of build because I can be as creative as I want and not held to "Boeing standards" :)
For the curious, the weather radar display is the MILVIZ/REX weather radar running behind a windowed AirManager display controlled via FSUIPC offsets from the row of buttons at the bottom of the bezel.
bollocks to Boeing this is super cool
Hey Jim,
Totally cool what you're doing!
How about making some videos? Not of what you're doing, but just too see you in action flying this awesome chopper....
John
BlueSky - would love to make the video, but right now I don't have an out the window visual. So once I get a few large monitors surrounding the cockpit, I'll post something. For test flights I have just a little monitor to fly with.
Been focusing so much on just getting engines working correctly. I was so spoiled by Prosim and the 737-800 that I sold. It's so sad that Lockheed (and Microsoft) put no effort into making an accurate turbine engine model. And when I mean accurate, I don't mean after it is running at a stable state. They never model startup and shutdown, which in my sim needs to be as accurate as possible. For example, wouldn't it be cool if you had a sound system that actually responded to simulated turbine RPM or rotor RPM. Right now every add-on developer just has a startup sound that runs, totally independent of the actual engine state. Same with shutdown.
Perhaps there are ways to make that work and I simply have not learned the process. But then - that's the fun thing about these sims. You are learning new stuff every minute of the day. Keeps my brain and me alive !
here's you answer a detuned garret APU:-)
actually each engine manufacturer has sound packages fot simulation MD helicopters prolly cheaper than normal cause try for sale
Been busy, as usual...
Working on code for a Universal FMC recently installed in the pit. Took it up last weekend and it performed quite well.
Knocked out a few bugs on the Avidyne PFD software.
Finally found a decent database for Navaids. (It was in X-Plane all along, in clear text) It even updates.
Now, just waiting on X-Plane 12. Decided to mothball the conversion to FS2020. I may decide to get another system and just run it on a desktop with nothing fancy, except maybe some FFB yokes, some decent rudder pedals, maybe a good radio stack, and a pro throttle quadrant. But beyond that, just a desktop! ;-)
For my part, I got lucky over the last couple weeks and was able to source some nice toys off a 737-700 being scrapped.
A complete set of CBs for my rear bulkhead with all the breakers (thankfully now I don't have to recreate it all by hand!), a set of complete columns, and some nice misc items. All in fantastic condition.
There were so many others things I wish I could have asked for off that aircraft before it went to the claws of death. I hear it's quite a cutthroat industry, though, so you just get whatever you can get away with and thank your lucky stars.
Now the fun part...figuring out how to integrate it all, haha.
you get trip counters on those control wheels :-)
sorting out where to put cards etc thought it was a snake bottom right
Quote from: bernard S on October 06, 2021, 02:12:33 PMyou get trip counters on those control wheels :-)
That I do! And the stick shaker clamps, so I can now finally mount my stick shakers! Like I said, I lucked out.
Got my pedestal from GLB Flight Products. My OpenCockpits and real 737 modules fit nicely in it.
I have to say considering how cheap their pedestal is compared to other vendors the quality is very impressive. Waiting on the remaining panels to show up and then I can get it completed!!!
Definitely can see it's Hardware Season, no Software Season, Hardware Season, Software Season...Rabbit Season, Duck Season...ahhh, you get the point LOL!
Would you believe that I spent the whole week redoing my flight sim pc and had it all setup on a 250gb SSD along with W10. BUT, I totally forgot about file sizes and about using two drives. Yep, loaded W10 and P3D with some addons and bam, 1GB left with W10 nagging/warning me!
So, I reformatted that drive and took it out, and then installed two new 1TB SSD drives, one for W10 and the other for P3D. All went well and I started installing FSDreamTeam (FSDT) Cities, but I used the Migration tool I mentioned earlier for one addon right before starting the FSDT items, and it somehow threw off the P3D directories for FSDT along with messing up the P3D Scenery Library.
Next thing I knew all the cities are messed up and P3D was giving error messages about unloading/loading each city before starting up. GGGRRRR! Then, I saw the bad stories about not using the migration tool and FSDT near each other.
Okay, I'm like it's all screwed up so might as well reformat and start over. Did exactly that for both drives, meant redoing W10 as well. Thus, I reformatted, had W10 done, got P3D loaded and tried to enter my account number and password...NO GO! Got the "...too many activations..." error! Damn!
Only thing I/anyone can do is email Lockheed and wait for them to reset the activations. Albeit, I didn't see the part about uninstalling P3D before redoing a computer or changing hardware, so I can't complain. Just waiting now.
Moral to the story: Use two big size drives and more than you'll ever need. Uninstall P3D first. Always create restore points (I had them, but my anger took over). Don't work on your flight sim when you're angry, you'll forget about restore points!
Knowingly, I had issues with W10 before all of this and I'm pretty sure as too what happened. I'm using two PC's and I set them up originally using the same email login account. Little did I know about Local Accounts (fancy way of saying your PC and W10 will work like you've always known in the past if you use local account(s)). Anyway, the login email way screwed up MS Store on both PC's, which killed my MSFS2020, as well as all the MS Apps wouldn't work...like MS Office and so on. It was like Ghost in the machine on both of them; things opening and closing like ghost.
So, I wonder how many times these email login accounts have screwed up other flight simmer's multiple PC's if they initially used it on multiple PC's during the W10 install?
Has anyone done this?
Now, that I've redone both PC's and used only local accounts, there is no issue between them except reinstalling every darn program on both of them!
Sadly there is another issue I will have too face once I get the flight sim PC and P3D up and running, and that's my other 3 PCs that all have ProSim737 software are W10 using...you guessed it...the same exact email login on all of them...
That's why we call it "Chasing the Rabbit down the rabbit hole!"
John
John,
You can very easily tell it to change your 'online account' on each of those PC's to a local only account. its an option under accounts.
Are you using Win 10 Pro or Home? I'd highly recommend using the Pro version if you are not.
Win 11 will REQUIRE you to use an online account if you stick with the Home version.
If you have OS related issues shoot me a PM or Text anytime. I'm an IT Director so I've delt with all kinds of crazy situations.
Thanks Jason for offering too help, I will definitely PM you...
Regarding the email vs local accounts, I never thought they be problematic. Heck, just assumed they'd work the same on multiple machines...lol!
The two PCs in question are W10Pro, but the other three PCs are OEM home versions. They're already setup from beforehand and have individual named accounts, didn't use email account...at least I don't think I did, I'll check them tonight.
John
Good News! Already got an email back from Lockheed that they reset my account, so only one day! That's great....
John
One week Flight Simulator, the next Lego Lego Legos! Yep, it's a love-love thing.
Really love the flight simulator because it tasks my brain, but also love Legos because they task my hands. Whereas both tasks my patience at times due to the flight simulator gremlins who keep the computers or sim in continual state of "not working". Or, the Lego elves who keep taking a Lego piece here or a Lego piece there and I have too spend hours upon hours looking through a 100,000 pieces over and over...LOL!
So, what have I done for my simulator today? Nothing but make it jealous because the Legos are getting most of the attention lately.... ;D
John
I don't want to be that guy, but the plural of "Lego" is "Lego".
sheeps
Yes I know Lego is plural, but when you have as many as I do now, they become Legossssss.... LOL! :o
John
Were you asking if I have sheep Lego Bernard? Uh, not sure yet, but I'll get baaaa-ck too you later...LOL!
John
He's talking about the plural. I find info like that on the interwebs :D
And back to the flight simulator it is...installing addons again. The list is getting long...LOL!
Hey, there's an idea! How about a thread that list every addon you're using? No good or bad comments about them, just the list.
What do you all think?
John
How about we use a thread I have already for the flight sim addon list here:
https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/index.php?topic=8332.0
John
Wow, isn't anyone working on their sim lately? Or, you're just not posting about it...LOL!
Just got my P3D v4.5 PC all happy again. HOORAY!
Now time to hookup all the hardware and get everything going...it'll take another month or more...I'm kidding!
John
Quote from: blueskydriver on October 24, 2021, 12:14:54 AMWow, isn't anyone working on their sim lately? Or, you're just not posting about it...LOL!
Guilty as charged. Funnily enough (is that a word, funnily?!?) I have been switching time between Lego and building as well!
Been working on my v2 overhead as time allows, a little every night. I managed to get all the wiring done mid last week. Mounted the FWD and Aft into the housing to test the fit. Not going to lie, proud of myself for the ideas I had in making the back of this thing accessible once it is up. Using Post screws and boat pins to allow the FWD or Aft sections rotate down if needed.
Just some minor cleanups to do, knobs to install and then figure out how the heck to mount this to my desk. Going to try a quad monitor mount, on a stand, to get the height needed. I am rocking a desktop hybrid sort of setup - ie no MIP (not at this point anyways) but do have the MCP/EFIS as well as desktop yoke, throttle, pedestal bay, rudder pedals. Goal is to build at the same time as flying so as not to lose the passion.
Using a U shaped 1/8" thick custom cut/bent aluminum sheet as the backing to hold these up...
Without further ado, some pics!
-Matt
![](https://i.ibb.co/gMfYy2W/FWD-OVH-Messy.jpg)
![](https://i.ibb.co/Yb3h4Qs/FWD-OVH-Half-Messy.jpg)
Nice work Matt. These overheads are always such a hornets nest, especially if you wire every single thing up. I've scratch built two now, and on the second I thought I could take what I learned from the first and do a much neater job of things. Yeah, right. If you stick with wire then you'll have a nest no matter what. There's just so much wire.
On my v2 (pictured) I created a clear plexiglass hinged platform to mount all the interface cards and relays to so I could swing it up to work on things underneath if needed. It also allowed me to keep everything confined to the swing-down frame as one removable piece. In theory it was a good idea, but I don't know if it's better or worse than any other way. Just different.
I think if I ever do a V3 I'm going to make my own PCB's and solder everything to them so it really keeps things organized.
Anyway, I'm working on my speaker and sound configuration right now while I wait for my CB panels to get delivered so I can finish up my rear wall. At least the sim is still flying so I can play in the meantime.
Worked with a local printer and am getting a QRH printed in official size, paper and binding for my simulator. Price wasn't that bad either.
Finished mounting all of my panels on the MIP this weekend and am currently painting and drilling out the knobs for placement. Next step is mounting the FDS Sys1X board and start the wiring...then first panel is done.
Got last panel for my pedestal as well. Waiting on some DZUS connectors and then will start that step next.
Project Status:
MIP -> 75% Complete
Pedestal -> 50% Complete
FWD Overhead -> 25% Complete
AFT Overhead -> 10% Complete
Shell -> 100% Complete
Originally wanted to get it done before the end of the year, but not sure it'll happen. I'm a stickler for organization and also am dealing with long delays in shipping times for most items.
The last couple of weeks I have spent all of my available time and then some prepping the sim for WorldFlight, including building a website.
See www.worldflightvirginia.net (http://www.worldflightvirginia.net)
Fred K
Quote from: MistyBlue on October 24, 2021, 08:00:33 AMNice work Matt.
Thanks Tony!
I tell you what, I wish I thought of making the Plexi hinged as well...I just have brackets epoxied to the back of the frame and then the plexi bolted down. Still removable, but not as easy as I could have made it. Ah well live and learn! And you're right, just different - its all about whatever works for that person in that time. This definitely is a learning process.
And I agree about the hornet's nest. I am using PCBs - so my switches, Annunciators etc all go to PCBs, which then in turn go to a master card which has an Arduino (I am interfacing using RealSimControl into XPlane) - all for use with the Zibo.
As much as I love to fly, I love the building portion more. Not ashamed to admit I tried to drag out the building process, only because I dont know what I want to do next. I'd like to do a single seat MIP, but space is a concern, running out of room in my home office!
Quote from: co735 on October 25, 2021, 05:47:57 AMAs much as I love to fly, I love the building portion more.
I think that applies to most of us, haha. I certainly feel the same way.
With the plexi, it's nice to be able to mount everything to the swingdown frame rather than stick all the interface boards to the shell ceiling and have to work upside down like I've seen it done, but with all that wire shoved in such a limited space it's still a pain.
I think the PCB solution is a much more elegant and certainly neater solution. So I'm interested to see how your PCB solution works. I'm seriously starting to think about it now. Please keep us posted!
Quote from: blueskydriver on October 14, 2021, 02:38:38 AMThat's why we call it "Chasing the Rabbit down the rabbit hole!"
John
Sometimes I refer to it as 'Yak-Shaving'....
Yak Shaving (https://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/yak-shaving)
Lots going on in the Beech world...
Spent the weekend adding 3 new computers to the sim:
1. New, separate computer to drive the F/O Avidyne PFD, finally teasing apart PFD functionality
2. Added a new computer to drive the Universal FMC in the center console. It's not fully-functional which means I'm still /A, but allows more efficient workflows while under ATC command
3. Yet another computer to drive the Garmin 430.
I'm so glad everyone is posting about their sim projects and/or getting ready for World Flight (WF)...seems like it was just yesterday since the last WF ;D
Knowingly, I say this a lot, but all the members here keep me going with my sim, by posting about yours. Without Cockpit Builders and you, I'd be lost. If only I could meet all of you some day to thank you in person. Until then, thank you for keeping my sim dream alive.
Lastly, Cockpit Builders is like one huge family of builders, all virtual brothers and sisters that share this website and the community. And that's what I love the most, along with the fact that there are no other websites like it....
Beyond that, please keep posting in this thread, as I read and learn from every single one of them. :D
John
Finished wiring up my new Glarewings from FDS, new LCD Clocks, also from FDS and managed to finish up the visuals upgrade to P3Dv5 ahead of the Start of WorldFlight on Saturday!
Just need to get the Glarewings and Start Switches from Anders installed, 4 days to go!
The visuals look great !!!
Hey Dunc,
It's good too see you posting again, been since last November. You've made some awesome improvements since then.
Those visuals do look nice, are you using P3D v5? ;D
John
I have been working on solidifying my sound system as I build out my rear bulkhead. I'm wiring in some car amplifiers to power Buttkicker Mini LFEs in the seats and car speakers for the overhead and custom-built Aural Warning box. The car amps allow me to fine tune volume and high/low pass cutoffs of the various speaker pairs. Thought about using a home audio amp, but this is more flexible.
Tony,
Thanks for posting this and your speaker diagram. It is something I haven't thought about much yet but will refer back to this when I get to that point. I have some older car stero amps sitting around that I was about to throw out, but this is a great use for them!
You're welcome Jason!
For clarification on the speaker diagram "SS" stands for SimSounds (the independent application) and "PSA" stands for ProSim Audio.
The wind sound is coming from SimSounds to some independent front speakers. This allows me to separate wind noise out and control its volume and placement better. I then disabled the wind sounds in the aircraft.cfg so I don't get wind coming from the rear placed engine speakers which are tied to P3D.
FYI, the sub really isn't necessary in this setup. It just happened to be integral to the surround PC speakers I had lying around.
One important thing to note: if you combine outputs from multiple computers into one set of speakers you will likely introduce noise so try to keep PCs from crossing their "sound streams".
So many ways to skin this cat.
EDIT: Oh, another reason I went with the car amps: the overhead and AWM speakers have to be small so car speakers were the perfect choice. And since the Buttkickers and car speakers all happen to run at 4 Ohms (which is what car amps run at versus 8 Ohms for home audio amps) using car amps helps keep things nice and simple.
Tony,
That's beautiful work. I wish I had done more paperwork like that for my build. record keeping is always the last thing we do, and honestly should be the first.
Trev
Hey Everyone,
Been working on the change over, but I'm back on FSX (dual boot setup) in order to figure things out regarding fsuipc and other hardware settings to make for P3D.
So, I got everything running fine in FSX except one issue. If I'm remote accessing the FSX PC from a client PC using either TightVNC or TeamViewer to make changes and such, since when the projectors are running it's to hard to see the menus, I keep getting image flicking from FSX in full screen mode on the remote PC. FSX on the projectors is fine in either full or window modes, but it's like what gets sent to the remote PC is confused.
I am running NTHUSIM and turned it on/off and that's not the problem. I'm about to upgrade the NVIDIA driver, but this was never happening before. Also, this is setup on a Matrox Triple Head and that's not an issue for any video it sends out to the projectors.
Basically, I'm not sure why the image to the remote PC is flicking. What I mean by flicking is, if I have 3 views setup and while setting at a gate/airport (no matter which one) the remote PC image inside TightVNC or TeamViewer flicks between each view from the FSX PC and it even removes the airport building through one of the flicks...like 4 flicks, left, center, right, no building, then repeat.
Anyone have an idea what might cause this?
John
Think I figured it out... Somehow, I changed the resolution in FSX to a smaller value, where it should've been 3840x800x32 matching the settings in the Matrox Power Desk settings. I changed it to the correct values and no more flicking in the remote programs....
What's that saying "try and try again!", more like beat head on keyboard, knock self out with mouse and punch your monitor, and then curse a lot...sooner or later the computer gives in...LOL!
John
You're becoming very violent in your old age John 8) :laugh:
This is where I am at, with P3D and ProSim.
I still have lots of configuration and tweaks to get it working nicely.
Looks very nice. But how to you deal with the monitor bezel right in the middle of your eyepoint, especially during an approach?
I assume you have the eyepoint set to the pilot side or it is switchable via ViewGroups.
Nice cockpit, congrats.
Thanks Jack, not in your league but better than the open version I had before. But as we all say it's never finished.
The eyepoint isn't something I thought about, but to be honest like the bezels you get used to it.
I seem to line up just off centre and once you're at a certain distance it doesn't matter anyway. 8)
The pics attached show more of the final structure as I was building it.
Since setting it up I've blanked off the side windows as well, I think it's more immersive that way. Although if I had the room I would add two more small screens.
I blanked those sides too..
With the front view covering the whole windshield, the movement of the aircraft is convincing enough (banking and Up/down.
Very well done !
I agree, it beats sitting in front of a monitor with a Saitek joystick in hand. Yet, I imagine all started out that way, well most of us: 8)
I guess it's whatever a person feels is realistic enough, and as long as the flying is enjoyable, what difference does it make.
Joe.
Hello Joe,
Congratulations on the progress with your 737 Sim! Very nice attention to detail... Great job!
Mike
Thank you Mike,
That's high praise indeed from someone with a full motions sim.
It's something I would have loved to have a go at, but we're quite restricted for space here in the UK.
Keep well.
Joe.
Super awesome Joe! You made it look easy and showed us all that a large size sim can be done in a very limited space.
Thus, for new/researching builders with not much room, take a look at what Joe has done...you can do the same ;D
John
Today I have remove the flight1tech standalone GTN 750 software, and remove the mini pc inside the cockpit.
Now I use rxp gtn 750 software in the main computer.
I have recoded everything in order to use the physical knobs and buttons with the RXP.
Arturo.
Thank you John, after seeing the size of your workshop I'm surprised you haven't built a full size aeroplane.
How many shells have you got in there so far? ;)
Joe.
I guess it is more of what I'm doing tomorrow lol. Picking up my CFY throttle from the post office, it finally cleared customs after sitting there for over 30 days.
Hey Jason,
Pics, pics and more pics of it please....
John
Quote from: blueskydriver on November 07, 2021, 04:50:48 PMHey Jason,
Pics, pics and more pics of it please....
John
I will, and I'll try to do an unboxing video too.
Drool Drool Drool :P
John
This past weekend I tried getting some flights in on my full-size sim and all goes well at first, but having problems with not being able to re-engage the AP CMD after an ILS attempt and turning it off a DH. For example in a Go-Around.
All the other MCP buttons work except either CMD. I've looked at all flight control axis too make sure there is no movement, have everything centered, check the ignore axis box in ProSim737 MCP Settings (not sure the exact name of the box, but it's supposed to ignore the movements and allow MCP CMD to engage).
I'm using a G2 Card which works fine, but it's only this AP issue. Currently, I'm running ProSim737 v2, but had this issue in v1 and that's what deterred me too stay with PM a little while longer. Also, I have v3 and need too try out it there yet.
Funny thing, in all these years, I noticed that be it PM or ProSim the MCP/AP has always been a difficult issue for both programs. Be it tracking, ILS approach or AP engagement. Not being negative towards either, as I understand it's a difficult task too get right. However, is this the same thing for SimA, how does it deal with the AP; what are the biggest known problems with that or the MCP in general?
Lastly, I will figure it out of course, but I do miss the times when I could fly from point A to B without any issues; albeit, no full stop ILS autoland being used....
John
Hi John,
You might try the following:
- Turn OFF both F/D switches, then back ON, CA side first, the FO side.
- You also can try to DISENGAGE the CMD, using the toggle switches, or on some MCPs, the Bar
It is sometimes the case with Sim-Avionics that the above can be done to "fix" the problem you described. I'm not sure if this might be the same for ProSim.
Mike
Ordered an Arduino Mega 2560 R3 today..... with 5 Euro Balck Friday discount :D :D :D :D
@ John
To reset you have to click both FD to off to clear the FMA.
Boeing procedure.
Been tinkering with some of the hardware and software. Trying out some of the setup, started building a center console for the throttles and the Saitek AP.
Francois,
Starting to look very good. Keep the pics comming.
Les
Hey Francois,
You're totally on the right track, keeping going and you'll most definitely get there!
John
Thanks for your cheering folks, I truly appreciate it.
Did some more work today, re-thinking the panel yet again. I also got more info on the actual measurements of a Baron cockpit. I was putting the panel up way too high it appears.
Also, I cut the old panel in half, and ,measured and cut the holes for the navigation equipment and radioes. Am putting in a Garmin 750 GTN (just bought the RealsimGear product) and a bunch of GoFlight modules.
The left part needs to be redone, because my monitor could not accommodate the proper size.
So now I decided to sacrifice my photo monitor (which is 27") to put the AirManager gauges on.
And I need to recut the left part, making it bigger to cover the monitor.
This will make the width of the cockpit slightly larger than the real one, but hey, I am old and will have enough trouble getting in and out already ;D
I also changed the trial setup again. Done away with the second tv screen. Will concentrate on the panel and making it all work, before worrying about the display(s).
Have an issue with the yoke, but will put that in another thread!
Thnks for reading and watching my fumbling here ;D ;D
On hold flying for a little while till I can pull out my TQ and figure out what caused my electrical burning smell. Starting to save for a new TQ. Jason, how's your CFY TQ working out?
In the meantime, I spent the last couple weeks building a new free sim parts classified ad web site, but for more than just flight sim parts. I won't advertise it here but if you're interested PM me or contact me through my site in my sig block. I could use some help testing to work out the remaining kinks.
Quote from: MistyBlue on November 20, 2021, 12:29:39 PMIn the meantime, I spent the last couple weeks building a new free sim parts classified ad web site, but for more than just flight sim parts. I won't advertise it here but if you're interested PM me or contact me through my site in my sig block. I could use some help testing to work out the remaining kinks.
Very nice website (AND simulator) indeed. Your sim career started the same as mine, sitting on the roof of Dd's car watching the Connies at Amsterdam Schiphol Airport, back in 1957 or so.....
Quote from: FSAddon_boss on November 20, 2021, 12:43:16 PMVery nice website (AND simulator) indeed. Your sim career started the same as mine, sitting on the roof of Dd's car watching the Connies at Amsterdam Schiphol Airport, back in 1957 or so.....
Thanks Francois! I really hope it becomes useful to the community.
I wish I had been able to watch Connies come and go. One of the most beautiful aircraft ever made, next to the Concorde maybe, which I was lucky enough to get to watch occasionally fly over the house from JFK. I miss that.
Quote from: MistyBlue on November 20, 2021, 12:29:39 PMOn hold flying for a little while till I can pull out my TQ and figure out what caused my electrical burning smell. Starting to save for a new TQ. Jason, how's your CFY TQ working out?
In the meantime, I spent the last couple weeks building a new free sim parts classified ad web site, but for more than just flight sim parts. I won't advertise it here but if you're interested PM me or contact me through my site in my sig block. I could use some help testing to work out the remaining kinks.
I'm happy with it in my basic testing but my sim is still a couple months off from being fully functional if I can keep focusing on it every weekend
Made some more progress during the past week. Got the old GoFlight modules working on FSX, straight out of the box. On XPlane unfortunately they don't work yet..... seems like I have to program each one of them with SpadNext.
Also cut out new left half of the panel, new size for the larger monitor that I will use for the AirManager gauges.
Last but not least I added the new RealsimGear GTN 750 into the panel.
Alas, it doesn't work yet in any of my sims (FSX, XPlane, MSFS)..... for some reason it doesn't react to the touch .... the rotary knobs DO work....
I added a ladder
That's what I love about this site, you can have a GA small simulator project or a real jet fighter, and both are on the same level from the members point of view....
We have the same respect for each other like real pilots do; as in it doesn't matter what you fly, just that you fly. Or, doesn't matter what simulator you build, just that you build it.
Thanks for the pics guys, keep'em coming 8)
John
John
Quote from: bernard S on November 21, 2021, 01:26:09 PMI added a ladder
Did that thing come with engines Bernard?
Hey Bernard... Great photo of your new arrival. You are going to have a lot of fun working on that project!
Hopefully those ejection seats are disabled.
yes sir all explosives removed but working with xxxxxxx to remove seats for refurbishment which means canopies need be removed by experts as they will require adjustment also xxxxx will rebuild them ..lucky me Engines are poked but I have on storage will refit em along with afterburner cans etc today I worked on one of main gear wheels ready to fill with foam
forgot piv
Love it !! :P
I worked super hard today and I think I might have over done things I used a drill battery operated would have been too much effort to use electric put up a ladder and placed sign it was so tiring I gave up count on the metal screws so I caved and watched Netflix
:D
Yep
Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again !
Good one Bernard.
Jason,
Congratulations on the progress! Building up a Sim indeed takes time, and incremental progress however small makes a difference. Keep it up and you will be rewarded.
I noticed that the FDS SysCard has changed connectors. The one that you have looks like it uses "push-in" type of connectors (green), similar to the Bodnar cards. That will give you added flexibility, as the previous connectors needed special tools to add a wire(s).
Mike
Quote from: sagrada737 on November 29, 2021, 03:19:14 AMJason,
Congratulations on the progress! Building up a Sim indeed takes time, and incremental progress however small makes a difference. Keep it up and you will be rewarded.
I noticed that the FDS SysCard has changed connectors. The one that you have looks like it uses "push-in" type of connectors (green), similar to the Bodnar cards. That will give you added flexibility, as the previous connectors needed special tools to add a wire(s).
Mike
They are removable from the board to reveal the pins. They have a small screw on each post to tighten against the wire, so not quite push-in, but very similar. FDS sent it with enough to cover about half of the pins, and wanted an ungodly amount for extras. Took some research but found the same green connectors on digikey for a fraction of the price so I got the remainder there.
Well, I got started on Fly-Elise and doing calibration pro now, should have visuals done again soon.
Pics are from NTHUSIM setup
Also, still redoing the back section....
John
Hi John,
From your photos, it looks as though you are off to a good start with your warping software. Nice looking MIP!
Mike
Installed a new (Correct) fuel panel for the B1900. Now working on the (correct) overhead gauge panel.
I love eBay... I've purchased all sorts of genuine Beechcraft hardware it's not funny. So far been able to interface all of it.
-Thanks Mike! Love too see some recent pics of your whole sim.... ;D
-Hey Ray, same for you buddy, love me some pics from you :laugh:
-Everyone Else, please post some pics of your sim, be it full-size, desktop or even VR folks, for this first week of December 2021.
John
cleaning like your aunt Doris and re rigging airframe
Superb ! :o
Not too much to report on my B727. Have been cleaning-up and rearranging my home office, installing shelving units for proper storage of parts, tools, electronics, etc.
Yesterday, I wrote a sketch/code and loaded to an Arduino Mega for my trim switch/wheels via an L298N module. Am pleased that it works perfectly and I'm very encouraged, even if it's just to test the feasibility.
Am thinking now that I need a different robot-type motor; the one I have (IG42@340RPM) has me concerned that this won't be fast enough to accurately drive the OEM sprocket/chain drive. My current motor has an attached 8mm shafted sprocket for the chain and the OEM sprocket is much larger. So now, my thought is to obtain a faster motor. Am trying to keep in the 24-28VDC range, if possible.
Any recommendations for a different type of DC motor? I've looked online and nothing is jumping out at me...keeping in mind that size matters here. Ahem!
Thanks,
Antny
Got a new "toy" coming for the simulator, should be here tomorrow...fingers crossed! We're getting a snow storm right now; otherwise, it'd be here today 8).
Should help with some minor issues...more info later....
John
Wiring, wiring and more wiring. Have a few annunciators left to do and the MIP gauges and then the first major panel is completely interfaced. Will post pics tomorrow once it is finished...Also have the video done for the unboxing of the CFY throttle. Hopefully will have that uploaded next week.
more toys
Hey Bernard... Thanks for sharing these photos. Nothing like the real thing!
Mike
welcome i also have the radar controller grip
Long time watcher, with an odd post from time to time. This week is a big one..after many months of test flying my FWD Overhead (homemade) in my temporary sim setup, I finally have it hanging in my FDS shell. There's a bit of work left extending certain wires and running power/ethernet and various other runs. I also want to get my grab handles installed before I move in the MIP. Jack's advice of getting the FWD OH in place before moving in the MIP was on the money. It would have otherwise been a nightmare I'm sure.
Thank you.. ;)
Nothing really new here ...Fine tuning Breaker panels lighting....
Ed... Congratulations on getting your Overhead Panels installed. They look great!
Jack... Thanks for posting that FO Circuit Breaker Panel photo. Having those CB Panels must add significantly to the cockpit Sim immersion.
Mike
Hey Guys,
Absolutely love the pics! So nice that you posted them, please keep'em coming!
-Mike, did you put a back wall section in your sim yet? If you're thinking about CB panels, definitely go with the FDS kit version like Jack is using. Their weight is like nothing compared to the real panels. I got the OEM versions and they're giant boulders that need a lot of structure to support them....
Kind Regards,
John
Hi John,
Yes... I am using some FDS parts for the AFT CB Panels. Although I am doing a custom support structure that will work with the Motion Platform.
I hope to have this part of the project completed in a few weeks...
Mike
Weekend didn't go as planned, youngest got bit by our dog early in the am by pulling on his hair to get on the bed. once that was all taken care of an we got situated back at home finished up wiring the switches and annunciators on the MIP. Just have the backlighting and gauges to do. Also, thanks to a good find from a friend, fitted a couple CCTV boxes that are fused with a 5V and a 12v power supply. Will drive all my interface cards, PNP modules that require power, backlighting and any other low voltage need. 12v with 50amps, and 5v with 60amps. Each has 18 fused outputs.
Do any of you military types have a snapshot of loadmasters sitting on the end of the ramp casting for migrating waterfowl?
I bought a WinWing collective. Getting ready for DCS Apache
This weekend I'll be re-installing the overhead, complete with brand new Beechcraft OEM electrical gauges.
Since I never had the forethought to plan for the future, the new gauges are deeper than I had wanted, making the overhead re-install somewhat of a puzzle. (Queue the Ripple effect)
This weekend I'll be carving out some wood where wood isn't supposed to be, installing the overhead and running some power-up tests.
Maybe even a flight or two if I'm lucky.
Finished up servo gauges on MIP today and just have some backlighting to do later. Moved on to the pedestal...fun stuff!
Good News! My new toy came, but where do I put it?
Funny, how all the accessory items that go into sim building...ie. workbench, power tools, electronic/soldiering workbench, counters/cabinets for 3D printers, CNC, and the latest...
A K40 Laser Cutter/Engraver! Yep, going too play with one of these and see what I can destroy, uh...I mean make for my simulator...LOL!
Good thing I still have two 4" dryer duct size holes in my garage wall for the desktop paint booth, as they will be shared with the K40.
And here I thought Lego was taking over my sim building life...well, at least not for now :laugh:
John
PS Hey Everyone, it's the holidays, but don't let it take all your time away, please keep building and posting about your sim. And, it's okay too say Baa-Hum-Bug about Christmas and New Years sometimes, as long as it provides you with more time for your hobby!
Remember! Do not stare at beam with remaining eye!
Finally re-installed the reworked overhead with the new Beechcraft electrical gauges. Pretty sweet to see bus loads now as various systems are cycled.
In doing so, the old Beech fuel gauges are retired now, so if anyone needs some nice Beech fuel gauges, let me know.
There's nothing planned for the near future so I may fly it for awhile. :-) (Except getting a new NVidia 3090 card)
Bought a G1000 for the GA stuff. Got tired of messing with all the other systems (FI, Air Manager, etc....)
SO SAD to announce This:
AFTER years plus of Flight Sims , I am posting this with a heavy heart
I love PC siming and everything that comes with it... but I am officially done in #2022! This is taking up too much of my time. I'm struggling to keep up with the everyday chores of cooking, cleaning and maintaining my home, so something has to give. I have decided to get rid of all my gear.
Below is a list of what's available. Serious inquiries only, and please don't insult me with low offers.
Thanks for reading and understanding...
1. Vacuum cleaner
2. Dustpan and broom
3. Mop and bucket
4. Lawn Mower
5. Leaf blower
6. Laundry detergent
7. Iron
Anything helps for more sim stuff
HAPPY NEW YEAR SIMMERS
Bernard...
Fully understood and I say go for it.
Except I would recommend keeping the laundry detergent what with the close quarters in the cockpit environment.
Happy New Year to all!
Fred K
OMG BERNARD! That's totally hilarious! ;D
Day 1...Can already see this is going too be your year of comedy!
I love it!!!
John
This last month has been spent on the custom turbine engine model for my military helicopter sim. I always knew how terrible P3D and other sims modeled turbine engines, but this in depth dig into the inner workings of P3D really showed how rudimentary the models are.
Unlike the airlines with Boeing and Airbus aircraft, my helicopter needed to exist down in the weeds with things like engine motoring, hot starts, N1 and N2 turbine speeds, manual versus automatic starts, etc. None of which are modeled by P3D.
It was a complex set of logic but the hardest part was the sound files. P3D does do a nice job with sound files if all you are doing is starting and stopping the turbine. But on a helicopter turbine with a governor, P3D doesn't know what to do when you turn off the governor. So that meant logic that faked the RPM values when the governor was off (not 100% RPM). It also meant I could not use the P3D sound system. So I created all custom sounds for the two turbines that included unique sounds for motoring only, engine start with ignition, engine start with ignition and combustion, engine running at ground idle and engine running at flight idle. I also needed to model engine cooling effects when motoring so that a restart could occur once the ITT dropped below 150 degrees C.
I am sure that if a turbine helicopter pilot was to stop by and watch my sim in action I would learn even more. For example, I have no idea if the N2 turbine spins when motoring the N1. I'm guessing not.
But, it's real enough for me know and was lots of fun getting up and running.
All engine gauges are modeled using Air Manager and I found a fantastic piece of software called "Turbine" which creates engine sounds for you based on the engine design. But it would be a several hundred dollar investment that I am not sure would show significant benefit for now.
There are lots of other sounds including rotor sounds independent of turbine sounds, blade flap and tone changes due to torque load which are part of my sim. I can't wait to get it actually flying with visuals soon.
Started the New Year off by installing a newly-acquired B1900 Co-Pilot yoke. It has the requisite 'Cobra Head' switch stack so now I have a full complement of B190 yoke controls.
THEN I think it's finished..............................
Hi,
I am building a motorized TQ but I would like some advice on which servomotor I can use
regards
max
I've spent spare time the past few weeks converting 2 OEM audio panels for use with prosim. Gutted them, installed and arduino with mobiflight, and have a nice finished product.
Backlight isn't dimmable since the lights for the activated buttons are dual purpose. They provide the backlighting AND the lights for the active buttons. Had to replace the OEM ones as a few were burned out. Unfortunately only had COOL white LEDs and not warm ones, but still happy with results.
Did not incorporate the volume control (pots) as there was just not enough room for another arduino in there and I wanted these self contained.
Looking great Jason !!
Also, thanks for all your contributions here, many posts help me stay on the ball.....
Am preparing a post to show my progress over the past 2 months...... since I was diagnosed with an intestine tumor and running from one hospital to another, I just got even more determined to DO this project that has been 40 years in the planning.... :laugh: :laugh:
hunted down these
To the untrained eye, that looks like a steel bushel basket...I'm sure it isn't but help me out :)
That's for the beer....when is the party?
Fred K
okay so you all give up... they are afterburner cans
Quote from: bernard S on January 08, 2022, 12:58:31 PMokay so you all give up... they are afterburner cans
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Looks like you are making incremental progress Bernard. I like your methodical approach to this project. Nice work!
Mike
My major project this winter will be to do some maintenance and upgrades on my converted 737 throttle quadrant. Looking back through my paperwork records I was surprised that it has been nine years now since I tackled that. I thought the timeframe was much shorter than that.
I want to engineer a better setup for my trim wheel motion, and one of my string pots has been acting up as late. It is going to be a major project since I need to remove the seats and pedestal unit to get at it. There is a hell of a lot of spaghetti wiring that runs through all of that. As such I will be replacing all the pots and motors while I am at it. I will also be replacing the Open Cockpits DC MotorPlus interface for good measure. Supposedly there have been some upgrades made.
The good news is that I had a pleasant surprise when I ordered the string pot replacements from UniMeasure. The cost for each is $160 which is exactly what I paid for them 9 years ago!
All told my TQ is 30 years old....21 years in a United Airlines 737 and 9 years in my sim!
Fred K
vanity items because I can :-)
Bernard, looks like you're starting your own private air force over there!
he he i have more than 1 airframe so you could be on to something ....lol.
doing stuff
Quote from: blueskydriver on October 24, 2021, 12:14:54 AMWow, isn't anyone working on their sim lately? Or, you're just not posting about it...LOL!
John
I wish I had the time. I've been traveling and working almost non-stop - haven't fired the sim up in months.
However, the traveling has included several trips to Greece where I am in the process of mapping out my exit strategy from work - and planning the final sim hanger for my sim.
Things have been quiet on my end with the holidays and time constraints. I did fix my RevSim TQ trim motor (for now) but decided to take a break and work on a different kind of sim project.
I've been putting in a LOT of work on a sim... just not mine at the moment. A good friend of mine recently moved and he had to tear down his sim to relocate.
It took a day to tear it all down. that was late last year.
We're still working to get it all back together. He's gone whole-hog though.. We build a 8' x 16' elevated platform for a forward galley/Instructor station and room for a First Class section.
After MONTHS of building, engineering, choking on sawdust, tonight we (sorta) had a flight, but we are making tremendous progress.
I'll ask him if it's ok to post some pics....
Pedestal work. That about sums it up. Waiting on some parts from OpenCockpits to show up so I can finish this unit. Using some transformers and upconverters so I only need to provide either 5v or 12v to my systems. Transformer for 3v for OC backlights, Transformer for 9v for my 2 arduino units, and an upconverter to go from 3v to 12v to support one panel that has 12v backlighting.
I DO NOT like working with IDC cables. I am not a fan of SIOC right now either. Self inflicted wounds with both and a 'aha' moment when I figured out what I was doing wrong.
AWESOME! Look at these things going on with everyone!
First, Warren it's good to see you posting. Just do it more often my friend, was starting too worry about you ;D
Bernard, you and Ray are definitely hitting the building aspects pretty hard. Which is great! Albeit, I'm totally jealous of you guys!
OMG Tony, what's up with the old school meeting the 21st century pinball machine?! I thought I've seen it all, but this takes the cake!!!
-Mike and Fred, you guys gotta make some YT videos, we all wanna see the changes you're making. With both of you having very in-depth sims, the changes you do make are way ahead most of us, so the videos help all of us catch up 8)
For all the other folks posting in this thread, thank you as I do read every single one of them....
John ;D
Quote from: bernard S on January 16, 2022, 04:58:26 AMdoing stuff
Since I was a young boy I always admired the T-38 & F-5 Talon. A simple, elegant looking aircraft with great lines.
indeed until you start on hydraulic lines and learn what a talon bite feels like
added some green for putt putt
here's da pic
Errr...the fine print on the sign in the photograph you took prohibits taking photographs......as directed by the facility commander thereof.
Fred K
well Mr Fred I am the M.F.W.I.C so all is golden ;-)
Pedestal work this weekend. Not as much progress as I had hoped because I forgot to order some 40pin IDC connectors. Everything is wired and almost ready to interface to the OC boards. Hopefully during this next week it'll get done. Converted my OC PNP panels to IDC so that they could all be dimmable together. Really happy with how it has turned out so far. Also waiting on my ACARS printer to show up from china.
Most panels are OC, SELCAL is Sismo, ACP's are converted OEM, Printer Panel is from Hispa.
Hello fellow builders! Long time no hear.... I have started planning the new sim.. More to come..
Hiya Bob, nice to hear from you, where have you been hiding? 8)
Joe
Same question.. :D
Yep, now we know why you've been flying below the radar Bob...new sim coming up ;D
John
added aircraft air conditioning unit
Quote from: bernard S on February 02, 2022, 06:19:22 AMadded aircraft air conditioning unit
Well done. The project is coming along really nicely!
Hey Bob... Good to hear you are planning a new Sim. Can't wait to see what you are doing.
Bernard -- Good to hear you are adding in air conditioning. With the wiring complexity you have going on in that T-38, be sure to consider Fire/Smoke Control, and most important -- simple and quick egress from the cockpit -- especially if wiring overloads and smoke fills the cockpit!
I have seen this in person watching a friend build his Turbine Legend. While sitting in the cockpit, with the canopy closed, he had a wiring short, and in about 2 - 3 seconds, the cockpit filled entirely filled with toxic smoke. Fortunately, the Canopy was not locked in position, and he was able to quickly get out of the aircraft. Something to seriously think about...
Mike
Hello All,
When it comes to Sim Immersion, Sound is one of the key components in our Sim systems. In my Sim setup, I have been using a Bose mini-sound bar driven by a C-Media USB sound module. The sound bar was placed up high up on the Nose Section, behind the seats. For the money, this Bose sound bar proved to produce some nice sound, including some respectable Bass sounds. I considered this a temporary sound solution.
When we had our Sim get-together this last weekend, the guys were especially interested in what I had done with the Sound System. The sound was okay, but clearly needed some improvements. Taking their constructive suggestions to heart, I set about changing my Sound System over to a 5.1 Surround setup.
Fortunately, I had a Sony Home Theater Receiver/Amp that I was not using, including a nice 15" Woofer sitting unused, in addition to some small shelf speakers. Gathering all this together, I had the makings of a nice surround sound setup.
I first tried to use the RealTech Audio Driver present in my existing Sim Computer, using the Optical interface to the AMP. Even with a Driver Update, the RealTech Driver had serious issues and caused erratic behavior with my P3D system making it unflyable.
I had previously ordered a USB Sound Capture module from Creative, model X4. The X4 has a lot of connection flexibility, so I thought it a good choice. Giving up on RealTech, I installed the X4 audio module, and it worked correctly using its Optical connection to the Sony AMP. Speaker Levels are adjusted and set within the Sony AMP.
I first tested this setup on the floor beside the Sim. The sound it produced was quite amazing. I am now installing the Speakers/Sub Woofer in the cockpit. The Front and Center speakers will be installed behind the MIP, and the Rear speakers and SubWoofer will be installed within the AFT Circuit Breaker Panel areas.
Another addition to my Sim setup, is the addition of a video Monitoring system to show/hear cockpit activity during a Sim flight. The video comes from a GOPRO 8 mounted up behind the pilots. This gives the classic view of cockpit activity. This is also connected to the cockpit Intercom so pilot communications can be heard as well. The video module I am using is a HDMI - CAT5e - HDMI link, which provided a local HDMI output for a monitor near the Sim; and an HDMI connection to a remote monitor (up to 160 feet away) in a room near to my Sim. Since my Sim is fully enclosed, this will allow folks nearby to view and hear what is going on in he cockpit.
Mike
Hey Mike,
Glad to hear your sound system is improving and that it's out great now.
On a different note, I'm just curious as to how you're getting into the sim yet. Last time you mention climbing a ladder and from the recent pics it looks the same.
So, I am thinking out loud and have this idea for you, what if you got/built a deck platform with steps and/or ramp (like used aluminum wheelchair ramp) that was within a minimum distance to not interfere with the sim while in operation. Then, you have a section of the ramp that would raise and lower remotely when loading/unloading into the sim?
The best idea I have for that are Gate Openers like those from Tractor Supply or other type store. They can move a lot of weight per se, and come ready to go, a turn-key setup with wireless remote. Use the gate opener too lift/lower the ramp, while also having a lip for the ramp to align up with on the sim, while in load mode.
It'd be something similar to a Level D sim, but without the price tag....
John
Hello John,
Thanks for your comments... I do have in mind to construct some kind of stair/platform for getting into the Sim. When the Sim Motion Platform is in its "Hold Position", it is 32 inches above the ground. Having stairs will make it a lot easier getting in and out of the Sim.
If I had more room, some kind of Ramp might be nice, but due to space considerations, I had to scrap that idea. By the way... How mobile are you these days?
Mike
Hey Mike,
Yep, either will work. If the sim is at 32 inches when in the hold position I'll have no probably scooting from my wheelchair into it. I'm pretty good at doing the hands and booty scoot thing since my upper body strength is great...that's how I get into mine. ;D
John
How about a rolling warehouse ladder? We have a 10' high one to get up to a storage loft, but a short one would be great for your sim....
John
Quote from: Joe Lavery on January 30, 2022, 11:58:21 PMHiya Bob, nice to hear from you, where have you been hiding? 8)
Joe
Not really hiding. Bought a house had lots to do and now I am working in my attic which is all my space but just not willing to give up enough rom for the 73 sooooooo
Sooooooo Bob, what are you switching too? You need to let the cat out of the bag :laugh:
Oh yeah, pics pics pics and more pics! Let's see your new eye in the sky attic space....
John
How about a KingAir 350.. Yup
Going back to your tried and true King Air friend...awesome!
John
Out with the old and in with the new...Old panels for overhead have found a new home and my new set that will fit into my simulator frame are on their way along with a new set of annunciators. Panels and gauges from Sismo and Annunciators from PCFlights. All interfaced with a FDS-SYS card. Next week is going to be fun!!
prepping for new paint scheme
Hey Bob,
Good to hear you are going for the King Air 350... What version/panel layout?
Hello Jason,
Best wishes with you new Overhead configuration. How are you interfacing the FDS Sys-Card?
Hello Bernard,
There's oso much prep work in repainting... A labor of love! Your aircraft is going to look amazing when completed!
Mike
I got my FDS cards before they stopped making them so it's a USB one direct into prosim. Its the big one, I think the SYS-1 so it is supposed to have enough connections to handle the entire overhead.
Hey Mike KA 350i Blackhawk with the Avidyne/Garmin glass.
Cooooolll!
Hi Bob,
Here's a photo of what I think you might be building... This Blackhawk configuration has I believe a Garmin NXi layout. I assume that you are deciding between Avidyne and Garmin, or maybe a combination.
Mike
You hit the nail on the head! And yes, a mixture of Garmin and Avidyne. I want the Avidyne Primary avionics with like a Garmin 530/430 or something close.
Just made a little test fight over Ketchikan to test my landing gear lights via the Arduino and Mobiflight
Spent this past week troubleshooting a fairly nasty bug in the sim. I added a functioning lower annunciator panel last weekend and it worked great...
...right up until landing. Upon landing the panel would go dark, and curiously, the [Right Gen Fail] would briefly turn on as well.
Gutted the code, re-wired it to a different power supply, still the same result.
The culprit ended up being the landing gear lock relay turning off during landing. A classic case of not using a flyback diode to shunt the power generated when the relay magnetic field collapses after being turned off.
It's a 28Vdc relay, so there was plenty of flyback voltage to contend with.
Once that was figured out, it all worked.
That was a nasty one to work out. It's no wonder some of us have no hair left!
My sim is coming along slow but sure. Thanks to Ray's great patience I am getting back into the programing of my choice of interfacing. So I have made a few flights, scrapped and aircraft and said a few choice words. I am now working with the Carenado King Air B200 and yes, I am using XPlane 11. In the next couple weeks I hope to do some actual building. We will see how things go.
Hey Francois,
Glad too see your back at building your sim....
John
Quote from: blueskydriver on February 07, 2022, 06:29:33 PMHey Francois,
Glad too see your back at building your sim....
John
Thanks John !!! Glad to be able to !!!
Here is what you asked for! :laugh: :laugh: It is a start now I am going to rip it apart!
more stuff
Well change of plans.. I was going to build the KA 350i in the Black Hawk configuration using XPlane. Bought the model and started working with it and ran into several issues with trying to interface with it. Then I took a look at the forward view with no panel and there was artifacts That I could not get rid of. Sop I scraped that plane and as there is no other 350i for XPlane available I did the next best thing. I bought a King Air B200 and will make this work. I am still going to go with the Black Hawk look but I lost some performance and the a little physical size. All in all I think it will work fine... More to come!
main gear doors will be working :-) and why not
Thanks for the pics guys, keep it them coming.
-Bob, how about a pic of the whole attic room area. Curious too see how much more space you have compared to the basement of the last house.
John ;D
...for those really rough landings.... Installed this a few days ago. (There's actually a "BUTTER" light just to the left of "Not Butter")
Cutoff logic is -250FPM on landing.
Quote from: RayS on February 10, 2022, 01:58:27 PM...for those really rough landings.... Installed this a few days ago. (There's actually a "BUTTER" light just to the left of "Not Butter")
Cutoff logic is -250FPM on landing.
I can't believe it!
Over the years I've been collecting real Beechcraft engine gauges for the 1900.
Most of the major projects for the sim are finally complete. The next project will involve interfacing these beauties to X-Plane.
Are these synchro style? If so, and if you don't have the interface nailed down, I may have something of interest. There's a digital to synchro interface that requires external 400Hz power that I have working. And there's a version that should generate its own power. This one isn't finished. The low level signals are there, but the power amps are not. The intention is to use class D audio amps and isolation transformers to transition for the class D bridge outputs to the delta synchro inputs. I've got the pieces. I just haven't had the time.
Mike,
Only the "Prop RPM" gauges are synchro-driven. There's a synchro on each engine shaft, which sends the rotation signals to the RPM gauges.
In the interest of simplicity, I'm probably going to drive the needle with a stepper motor instead. (That goes for pretty much all the other gauges that I won't be able to figure out.)
Ahhhh, the glare of gauges in the morning! Nothing beats chasing the needles and not the ones for your arms...LOL!
John
Not much progress but a little. The interface has turned out a little more interesting than Ray and I thought it would :P :laugh: :D
Been working with Bob to build out an I/O interface so he can use it for switches/lights in his new Beechcraft project.
Starting with a Master/Slave concept, we tried pairing a Teensy 3.2 as the Master, to an Arduino Mega256 using the serial protocol. We had less than mixed results. When it did work, events passed to the master were delayed by 6-10 seconds. When it didn't work.... well... it didn't work.
On a whim we tried the I2C protocol and viola! It all works. (With the added benefit of assigning addresses to slaves and masters)
We'll never saturate the I2C protocol, since it's capable of a 3.4Mbps throughput.
Onward!
As Ray has stated we have finally had a break through in the interface setup. I can now program switches with my Arduino and pass that data to my Teensy and then to XPlane 11. Why do that you ask? 2 reasons, first I can keep the number of USB connections down second, I do not need to use Lua thanks to the XPlane plug in library for Teensy. Want to give a huge shout out to Ray for all his help! Without him I would have less hair and not be where I am in this project right now!
Are you guys doing this in person together? If yes, it's good too hear that you are doing this again....
John
Bob and I live about 2500 miles from each other so we just do a video call with screen sharing.
It's actually working pretty well for us. Much better than when we first became friends back in 1997 and all we had was AOL chat to work on the old EPIC-ISA system.
Hey Ray,
Thanks for letting me know. You're right about video chats today versus AOL back in the day. Video Chatting is almost as good as being there now....
Funny, do you remember doing BBS stuff? I know Bob does for sure...right Bob? :laugh:
I was doing BBS on my Commodore C64 and C128's way back in early 80's before and while in the Army! Talk about old school, I was just an 18 year old kid who lived in the video arcade or video game rooms back then. Along with having an Atari 2600, a Tandy and a Vic20 at home
My younger brother, next neighbor friends, and fellow soldiers all dreamed of video chatting back then, along with playing Elite Space Game and maybe even building a full-size space sim for it!
https://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3983/the_history_of_elite_space_the_.php?print=1
Here is an example of one today:
https://youtu.be/a00KtZ8xnu0
Funny, how things play out in life! I'm still playing video games on PC and doing a full-size airplane sim; although, I keep rolling that space sim idea around in my head...old habits never die I suppose.
Anyway, thank you for continuing to post in this thread, as I've happily said many times before, it makes my day everyday when all the members keep posting in it....
John
BBS work... Wow. That's a trip down memory lane!
I used to build BBS systems for clients. Loved working on the "Graphical" interface using all those special ASCII characters to build boxes, drop shadows, fills, menus... (Remember BrownBag Software? They had a wonderful DOS-based menuing system.)
Dont even get me started on BBS's I had 4 phone lines into my house and my buddy had 7 we where very busy!
Wow 4 and 7! Here I thought mine was high speed with 2 lines...lol!
Definitely a time when computer nerds/geeks like us ruled....
John
More work on the Beech 1900...
Not only did I have to resolve the flyback issue in that 28v landing gear relay, I also have to deal with the arcing across the relay contacts that turn on/off the landing gear relay.
After installing a well-shielded USB cable to the lower annunciator controller, I also had to build/install a relay snubber, since turning off the landing gear relay creates a small arc across the relay that controls it, creating a small amount of RF interference (Think of a lightning strike while listening to an AM radio.)
As Bob can attest to, it was a success. When the landing gear lock relay engages/disengages, the arc is properly snubbed as well as the flyback voltage.
Sims tend to have a threshold. Once can add circuits/components until one day, adding another circuit brings the sim to it's knees. I seem to be at that point.
I am so glad you guys are talking about relay arcs and the such. The throttle quadrant on my helo sim has a idle lock out that is a mechanical relay interfaced to the rotor brake. Every once in a while when I engage the rotor brake, I loose a USB connection. This is a high amp 28vdc line driving those relays. I have diodes across the circuit, but still occasionally loose a USB device. I see the comment about a well shielded USB cable, any other tips that could be provided are most appreciated. ALso, the term snubber is new to me. What is meant by that?
Thanks
Quote from: RayS on February 19, 2022, 11:14:17 PMMore work on the Beech 1900...
Not only did I have to resolve the flyback issue in that 28v landing gear relay, I also have to deal with the arcing across the relay contacts that turn on/off the landing gear relay.
After installing a well-shielded USB cable to the lower annunciator controller, I also had to build/install a relay snubber, since turning off the landing gear relay creates a small arc across the relay that controls it, creating a small amount of RF interference (Think of a lightning strike while listening to an AM radio.)
As Bob can attest to, it was a success. When the landing gear lock relay engages/disengages, the arc is properly snubbed as well as the flyback voltage.
Sims tend to have a threshold. Once can add circuits/components until one day, adding another circuit brings the sim to it's knees. I seem to be at that point.
Yup I have seen it in action nd it works great!
So I have made some very useable progress on the sim. We are moving further ahead every day..
Pics Bob, pics.... ;D
:P :laugh: There really is nothing to see yet... Hmmmmm
I put this video link on the 2-22-22 @ 2:22pm thread, but wanna put it here for longevity....
https://youtu.be/cP59MuTJHtc
John
Another night gone just fixing things, replaced a projector with one of the units I purchased from Scott years ago.
Since I bought the same models he had, and then when he switched to 5 monitors I bought his projectors for backup. So glad I did this; trying to find a DMD chip is like insane now.
Thus, that is why I suggest too anyone getting projectors that they buy 1 extra projector unit and/or at least buy a spare lamp and spare chip. In case one projector fails you'll have the most important parts on the shelf.
Next, is the Immersive Pro setups; I'll be on that tomorrow. Plus, getting the Phillips Hue lights finished....
Keep building and flying everyone!
John
Hey John, just went and watched your video! Sweet! Very nice job. Those seats are a very nice improvement over the old ones huh??
Hey Bob,
Yep, these IPECO are awesome compared to the those really old ones I had. Jason got the Weber Seats, but I don't remember where the old ones went...brain cells are dying more and more...lol!
Already fried with learning Fly Elise, P3D and all the new add-ons! :o
John
Question for anyone using Fly Elise and P3D with a Matrox TH2GO Digital.
How did you get it all the to work in Windows10 with using P3D ViewGroups on a single PC with the TH2GO?
According to the Fly Elise manual, the TH2GO has too be set as 3 displays and not 1 large display in W10 display settings, so how do I accomplish that?
When I goto Windows10 settings there is no way to adjust or change it. Not sure what I'm overlooking.... Otherwise, I can set the ViewGroups in P3D and turn on windows or desktop warping in Immersive Display Pro and get something of a screen correction, but I'm not able too assign a projector to each display. That's because Immersive Display Pro is seeing the Matrox as one big display and not 3 individual displays.
Any advice would really help.
John
Hey John,
I am using 3 projectors on 3 separate outputs, I use Nvidia Surround to create one large view. (This is because MSFS only uses one view) then inside FlyElise I configure each individual output. P3D allows you to export each projector separately if you chose to go that route and it gives you the viewgroup files for each. Now you also have the option to export "ONE MAIN" View which is how I use it for MSFS2020. That in turn combines the 3 views into one big view.
Now if the TH2Go won't let you separate it, then If Fly elise won't allow you to use it a 3 outputs, don't try to configure it as 3X1 try configuring it a 1X1. You will still be able to adjust the warping, with the config, you will essentially be doing all the projectors as if they were 1 output instead, think of the 3 projectors as just one really big one.
Because with the TH2GO essentially they are. Just a suggestion.
Trev
Hey Trevor,
Thank you, I will give it a try now.... It's awesome seeing more posts from you again!
Are you going too start the online sim flights back up soon? Hope that you do.
John
Got my Printer from FDS....new addition to the pedestal
Oof. FDS printer. I don't want to know what that bad boy cost! I got a printer panel from HISPA and bought my printer from ali-express. Looks almost identical to yours but is not painted grey.
Quote from: Jason L on February 25, 2022, 10:23:23 AMOof. FDS printer. I don't want to know what that bad boy cost! I got a printer panel from HISPA and bought my printer from ali-express. Looks almost identical to yours but is not painted grey.
Hey Jason, do you have a link for that printer please?
Thanks Joe
Yes, what is the link?
Moved to P3D section, since it's about P3Dv4 and Fly Elise.
John
Quote from: Joe Lavery on February 25, 2022, 02:43:18 PMQuote from: Jason L on February 25, 2022, 10:23:23 AMOof. FDS printer. I don't want to know what that bad boy cost! I got a printer panel from HISPA and bought my printer from ali-express. Looks almost identical to yours but is not painted grey.
Hey Jason, do you have a link for that printer please?
Thanks Joe
Hispa Panel: https://hispapanels.com/tienda/en/pedestal-b737/368-b737-acars.html#/add_components-yes 53.94 Euros
Ali Printer: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/80mm-Mini-Embedded-Thermal-panel-Printer_60838972429.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_title.1edc453bP5wRdy
~114 with shipping USD
I specified with Alibaba that I wanted one that had USB and ran on 9v to 12v power. Works beautifully and fits in the Hispa Panel perfectly.
If you go that route let me know I can send you a link to updated drivers that work with Windows 10+
Thanks Jason ;D
Spent another night playing with P3D and Fly Elise...is it me or does P3D just seem so washed out? Fooled with a lot of settings and it just seems that way overall...hmmmm :D
John
I am waaaaaaay behind the curve compared to most of you here....
Not only is my cockpit far from ready, but it is nothing as suave as many builds I see posted here. I had to cut my panel from an old bit of Tùtriplex wood that was screwed on this house when we bought it 8 years ago..... with an electric hacksaw.
No laser-cut aluminum panel for this ol' boy.
But my main challenge is not my health, nor money (well, that's second place), not even time (though getting closer) or space (after 68 years I found myself a BARN)..... or my 0% knowledge of electronics.
None of all that are insurmountable hurdles.
Nope.
My main problem is my dear wife. Because she thinks ANY money spent on any sort of Hobby is a crime against humanity (no, she has no hobbies).....
So what have I done for my Sim this weekend?
Arguing that I REALLY NEED a Creality Ender Pro to print me some bezels for the panel.
If you don't hear from me anymore.......
I hear ya. I live in an area where hunting is the go-to hobby. Guys spend thousands on guns and other hunting gear and then disappear for weekends, etc. all throughout the year. My wife likes that my hobby is in the basement and she knows where I am and what I'm working on. As such she's OK with the project. I get the 'ANOTHER box from xxxx showed up today' comment every once in a while.
Hobbies are important. She like to do crafty things and this way we keep our minds fresh.
You guys just need to ask your wives to be a part of it and help you do things. Tell them how happy the sim hobby makes you feel and that if they help, you both will be doing something together.
However, flight simulation hobby is not cheap at all, and you gotta get over that along with explaining it too them. BUT, do tell them you'll recoup some of the money when you sell things off later on, so not a total waste of money.
If they still don't go along with it, you might need a new wife! I'm just kidding..., but then again, I did just that and got Karen who's awesome about it all. And, like I mentioned years ago, her maiden last name is WING! Can't go wrong there! ;D :laugh:
John
PS are there any airports nearby that offer GA aircraft rides for a small fee? A lot of aircraft clubs do this too generate money. If yes, let them get your wife up there and put her in the Co-Pilot seat...trust me, the thrill for her will work towards your simulator hobby!
By the way, it doesn't have too be 3D printed, CNC'ed or Laser Cut, and it could be cheap if you want it...take a look at this:
https://youtu.be/Gy0mwzWqHk0
My first sim started with poster board and ice cream sticks!
John
PS it's really about imagination...I admire this kid:
https://youtu.be/kwEYO25rCUQ
Just told Karen about this wife aspect thing and kid you not, she says "that you guys need too play this song/video and listen to the words..."
https://youtu.be/p0pM5dm--yQ
John
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
John, Nina and I have been married for 47 years..... she comes from a poor family in a poor country. I come from a family where hobbies were the reason to work and live.
We've had arguments about this (potting up money instead of using it to have fun) for 47 years. That ain't gonna change anymore.
And I took her up with me in several Cessna's and Jodels.... all fine, as long as I don't have to pay for it too much (hence, no PPL)....
:laugh: :laugh:
Some things are just incurable..... but we still love each other. Just have to get it off my chest every once in awhile.
Peace !
Well, my simulator loves me...uh, not really!
Looks like I got to move my projectors forward 2 feet because I placed them that far back past my 7'8.5" radius of the screen. In my old garage setup I had them at that location, but for some reason I put them at 9'8.5" for the new setup, which makes my center image bigger than the side images and throws the screen correction off.
Sad thing is I got too move the back wall/box in order to reach the whole framing that I have up, where the projectors are attached. Of course it sounds easy, but before I can do that, I got to move the computer desk and computer racks, along with covering all of the Lego City up with plastic sheeting (dust is the enemy).
Thus, that is what I'm doing for my simulator today...uuuuggggggghhhhhh ::)
John
Strange that I've been helping others with their sims lately, and totally enjoying it!
My friend James moved to a new home this past year. We broke down his sim back in August of 2021.
Just yesterday we completed the first 'official' flight in his full-size 737-800 sim. He moved it from a very small garage to a massive RV garage. We built a platform, and slowly put it all back together. Future plans include a few rows in the First Class section with windows, a drink cart, and maybe a few other goodies.
James also reluctantly shelved MSFS2020 and dove head-first into X-Plane. We've been struggling with 2020 in his sim for months and months. We would get it all fixed and running, only to have it break all over again with the next 2020 update. He finally had enough.
A few weekends ago we converted his sim from 2020 to X-Plane.
Two hours later, we were performing test flights.
Also been helping our very own Robert Reed build his Beechcraft 1900D. We've been working on a microcontroller interface to interface all the switches and lights.
Also working on a website so I can market some of my other skills, like doing simple real-world gauge conversions to work in X-Plane.
(www.EllieAvionics.com (http://www.ellieavionics.com))
The site is still a work on progress but I hope to have it completed by the end of June, when I finally pull the plug on the corporate world and head off into the retirement sunset.
As Ray said we have been working on the Beech 1900D. Today I started to rebuild the TQ I have had for a very long time and make it function. No idea how I built 2 other sims without a 3D printer :P :laugh: HUGE THANK YOU to Ray for all his help and his patience!
Hi Bob,
Looks like you are making good progress on your Beech 1900D Sim Project. I'm not too familiar with the cockpit panel layout, but from what I see on the Net, it is somewhat the same as a King Air. What are you going to do for the Flight Model?
Anyway, it seems like an interesting and unique project. Glad that Ray is helping... Always good to have a partner on big projects like this. Looking forward to seeing more photos as your project comes together.
If you need a projection system, I have three Optoma GT1080HD projectors you might be interested in.
Regarding 3D printing... Good to see that you are proficient in designing and making your own 3D printed parts. Have you tried using PETG? It is a very durable material that is easy to print at 80C Bed Temp @ 240C. Also can be post-machined.
Best wishes on your Sim Project.
Mike
After a long, long journey working with my Dremel and a Dimond cutting wheel I finally have all my annunciators fitted on my forward overhead. Working on the final touches this week and will assemble to start interfacing with my 6 Arduino megas. Will post pictures once this part is finished.
Quote from: sagrada737 on March 13, 2022, 04:19:46 AMHi Bob,
Looks like you are making good progress on your Beech 1900D Sim Project. I'm not too familiar with the cockpit panel layout, but from what I see on the Net, it is somewhat the same as a King Air. What are you going to do for the Flight Model?
Anyway, it seems like an interesting and unique project. Glad that Ray is helping... Always good to have a partner on big projects like this. Looking forward to seeing more photos as your project comes together.
If you need a projection system, I have three Optoma GT1080HD projectors you might be interested in.
Regarding 3D printing... Good to see that you are proficient in designing and making your own 3D printed parts. Have you tried using PETG? It is a very durable material that is easy to print at 80C Bed Temp @ 240C. Also can be post-machined.
Best wishes on your Sim Project.
Mike
Hi Mike. And yes it looks a lot like the B200 or 300 or 350, just bigger. I am using the Carenado B1900D flight model. As of the printing, I have not tried PETG I was worried about ambient temperature as my printer is not enclosed.
SOLD IT ALL! ;D
And I bought it all....Thank you John
Scott
(Ps.- the Blueskydriver 737 has flown from Wisconsin to Illinois!)
TIME FOR MY FULLSIZE ATC TOWER SIMULATOR ON VATSIM!
NO KIDDING!
Seriously, I'm moving onto the ATC side....
PS. All my stuff is at Scott's house, so I have nothing left to sell. ;D
Wait what? I didn't even know you were selling!? Wow. Big change.
Didn't know I was selling either, but I was having a hard time keeping at it mentally and physically that the thoughts of moving on keep creeping in.
And, after discussing this with Scott who tried talking me out of doing this, I decided it was the best choice too do so while I still could. Thus, I offered it all to him first because he is the one who helped me the most throughout all these years.
Consequently, I am not leaving the hobby though. I'm going to keep a desktop sim, as well as continue to use my big curved screen and projectors for a full-size ATC sim.
Hopefully, I will be on VATSIM soon and controlling traffic for many folks here on Cockpitbuilders who fly online....
John
What have I done for my sim? I think I broke it...
Not really! This is what a pile of 99% complete 737 NG looks like after it's moved.
As many will remember, I am just back into my natural state of moving this beast from one location to another. She is now in very close proximity to her final parking spot.
I got the opportunity with my job to come down and work in Greece for six months (and I get to live in the home I will retire in). There is a possibility over the next year that it will become a permanent work move so I made a snap decision and tore down the sim and hired a van and driver to load it up and move it from it from Germany to Greece.
This build will incorporate a rear bulkead and jump seats, an instructor station, a business class section, and a cockpit door.
I'm also seriously thinking of a collimated display. I've got 15 feet to play with for width. I'm torn on this as I know I need a ton of research, but I want to get it all back together and flying.
I hauled down all my old parts as well so I'll see if any budding builders in Greece want some good deals on seats, forward and aft overheads, and some other odds and ends.
Wow, another move. Warren, I think your 737 sim is possibly the only plane to have actually traveled all over the world!
Good luck in Greece. Look forward to seeing your bird in the air once more.
Scott
Yes Warren, I think they need to ammend the description of static simulator where yours is concerned.. LOL.
Good luck with the next posting.
Joe.
Hey Warren,
Just keep saying "there's no place like home, there's no place like home..." ;D
John
Since I am like 6 years behind in my main sim PC (still i7 4790 at 4.4 Ghz) here is the state-of-the-art stuff for the new one.
;)
![](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLW9gvYFdt1aflsKP87xz5ojY4khG53wQfsJ0wZg0y4vVvGdgNdnW6OW5f7i2dVkZ1OdJ6Hnz_vDwQ3OgGgVDxJiRkM-2rM6VVjokuHiuGFBL-HoRHURAVyjLYIcqCee_U0NSxnMVbaQq0DNafApg4tv=w1056-h1899-no?authuser=6)
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix Z690-E Gaming WiFi
Processor Intel i9 12900K
RAM G.SKILL Trident Z5 Series 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 6000MHz
Liquid cooler Kraken X73
With RayS's help, what a patient man, my sim project is moving forward. Not much to show yet but, the programing is going well. It's almost nice enough outside so I can start cutting wood and do some real building an then there will be some pictures. I am really looking forward to being able to fly this beast!
Made another purchase...lol. Will have pics next weekend. This is one of the few the wife said, wow that's a good deal do it.
John is a heck of a deal maker.
Making some under $50 magnetic controlled switches for the Yaw and Ice switches on the overhead. Will utilize small magnet controlled by a small MOS driver board which is signaled from a MobiFlight Arduino.
Sounds great...
Now if you can go over that again....sloowwly!! ;) 8) ;D
I'll take pics of the process as I assemble them.
Great!
Today for my invisible flight simulator, we took down the white screen very very slowly, and now we're going to reverse build it.
In other words, take it a part by drilling out 500 rivets and removing a ton of clamps, and then removing the metal sheeting....
Loads of fun!
John
Quote from: XOrionFE on March 20, 2022, 05:31:18 AMWow, another move. Warren, I think your 737 sim is possibly the only plane to have actually traveled all over the world!
Good luck in Greece. Look forward to seeing your bird in the air once more.
Scott
Isn't that the truth. This will cost me some without it- as I do have to go back to Germany for about eight months before moving permanently. Still - it will give me eight months in Germany to work on my GA sim.
Quote from: Joe Lavery on March 20, 2022, 10:10:50 AMYes Warren, I think they need to ammend the description of static simulator where yours is concerned.. LOL.
Good luck with the next posting.
Joe.
Thanks! This is temporary - working my exit plan for final retirement though.
Quote from: blueskydriver on March 21, 2022, 03:15:19 PMHey Warren,
Just keep saying "there's no place like home, there's no place like home..." ;D
John
Yup!
What have I done for my simulator today...well, for what's left of it, Jason is coming at noon today to get the projector screen and the metal framing along with the PVC tubing.
Took it all a part and removed the thin metal sheeting that we cut off, as well as removed a server rack with 1/2 dozen servers in it, and loaded all the old sim PC's on a pallet. Then, contacted a metal recycler to come pick it all up for free (don't mind giving it away because he loads it and takes it away; saves Karen and I from doing it).
Anyway, I've been rearranging the entire shed and just cannot believe the room I gained back. Funny when I look at it, I should've tried the 5 TV monitor approach like Scott and others. The space needed for a screen versus the tv monitors is the biggest thing about all of this; okay, the difference in visual aspects of course, but IMHO, I spent more time looking inside rather than outside when flying. Most of the "out of the window" (VFR) was on takeoff/landing, beyond that it was just watching the MIP Displays during IFR and AP modes.
So, what am I saying? Well, if you're debating a projector screen setup versus the TV monitor setup, make sure you take a very hard and long look at the TV monitor side first.
Now, where does this leave me with flight simulation, in case you're wondering. My plan is still too do ATC, but I updated my MSFS2020 yesterday and did a flight with a King Air (a plane I liked before doing the B737), and actually enjoyed it a lot. Since I still have the CH Yoke, Pedals and Throttle kits, along with all my GoFlight hardware, I might setup a small desktop sim based on the King Air.
Who knows, since I still have four 3D printers, a CNC Machine and an unused Laser Cutter/Engraver, I might make some panels for the King Air B200 or B350/360....
John
yiu need this.
.a visual feast
and if your going to do another sim do a fighter waaaaay cooler ..and what sounds better delta 476 cleared blah blah or HOTDOG cleared to whatever you want sir !
Hey Bernard,
Yep, was going with F16 before but decided not too do it!
However, if you wanna build that visual feast for an ATC, I'll be moving to Texas!!!!
John
I Love My projector setup, but if I get the chance.. I will go back to monitors and remove the GT1080 Projectors.
I miss the Monitors bad.
Trev
Add my name to the list of users who now employ monitors.
Funnily enough, James and I were just about ready for takeoff on a Bob Reed Memorial Flight to tour all the places he's lived and worked.
Here's how that flight went:
James: "Are you ready?"
Ray: "Yep! Takeoff checklist complete."
James: "Let's go!"
Projector: "POOF!"
Now... I know Bob didn't like people making a fuss over him so I have to think even in the afterlife, he had something to do with blowing up that projector.....
Losing that projector resulted in me driving to Costco the next day and buying 3 84-inch QLED tv sets.
After having flown now with both display systems, I don't think I'll ever go back to a projector setup. Warping causes about a 35% detail loss. I didn't know how MUCH that meant until flying the TV screens.
That also means no more alignment drift...
No more $250 Annual support contract...
No more anxiety-ridden evenings, wondering if the latest Windows update currently installing/infecting my sim systems will finally break the warping software.
So, if anyone here needs 3 Optoma Darby 1080P projectors (2 with intact but high-time bulbs, one missing a bulb) let me know.
So how do you deal with the TV bezels? Thats why I am doing projectors, I can't stand bezels.
As for me, drove 550 miles on Saturday to get a projector screen and a few other things from John. Long drive but so worth it!
Quote from: Jason L on April 11, 2022, 12:59:12 PMSo how do you deal with the TV bezels?
So, after a few hours of flying, you don't really notice them and actually get a little inured to them.
I'm hedging my bets though... The units I bought have a super-narrow bezel. Also, you can slightly circumvent the bezel distraction by overlapping your TV placement so that at least 1 bezel side is hidden behind the other monitor.
The last item is to put a strip of grey (Has to be grey) electrical tape down the vertical bezels, further allowing them to blend into your mind's eye.
I also use 4K TV's and the bezels on mine are 5mm so are not at all distracting. As Ray said after a few flights they seem to disappear.
WOW - 3 x 84 inch TV's I could only afford 43 inch. :(
I remember seeing (I thought someone on CB) used highly reflective tape on the join and that created a sort of shimmer between them. However I'm not sure if that might be more noticable than the original bezel. 8) LOL
You can get a kit from Asus i think that makes this error almost go away. Car Sim guys use it. It looks quite effective.Do a search on monitor bezel correction.
Switched from projectors to TV's probably 8-10 years ago now...never looked back nor did I ever care too. Bezels disappear in your mind like everyone has stated and the contrast and clarity of TV's is night and day. That said, I really enjoyed Mike Sherick's projector setup and when sitting atop a motion platform probably made more sense than monitors. They can look really nice with good blending and warping. But that said...I would still never go back to projectors. Now I want to trade up my 5 60" TVs for 3 75" ones though. I am awaiting results of Immersive LCD Pro testing from another builder with a 3 screen 75" each setup. With that size they almost completely surround a 737 nose so will be interested in how they work...
Well I got a free projector screen this weekend and a helluva deal on some 1080p darbee GT projectors last year, so I'm a bit committed to them now..lol
You will have an awesome setup Jason...no fret. With John's huge screen and some good projectors and some careful blending and warping I am sure you will have a very satisfying setup.
Getting closer to start ATC'ing! ;D
Quote from: blueskydriver on April 19, 2022, 08:56:34 PMGetting closer to start ATC'ing! ;D
Hey John, looks awsome, how many staff are you getting to run all those stations? LOL
Joe.
John - Impressive setup for sure!
Fred K
Quote from: blueskydriver on April 19, 2022, 08:56:34 PMGetting closer to start ATC'ing! ;D
Very cool. Nice music studio as well I see...
Awesome looking man cave!
John,
You going through all the Vatsim training and such now to, or have you already done that?
Hey Guys,
Just set it up last night and trying to figure out which way too go.... Did you know P3D has all the ATC Tower views and etc, like FSX Multiplayer has. Which is great because that's how I did it before.
Albeit, I haven't started the VATSIM training yet, but I'm planning on starting it soon. Need to figure out which software to use.
Right now it's only me, but I might have Karen in there with me...LOL!
Agreeably, it is a big area, but like Scott mentioned I also do music stuff as well. Got his Ableton Push 2 setup and it's a lot of fun. So, it's a multifunction desk area. ;D
John
So what you are saying is we'll hear you making music on sky blue radio while we fly, AND you'll be giving us our vectors too.
:)
That would be cool!
Fred K
Hey John,
You definitely look for challenging projects! I admire anyone that can handle ATC responsibilities as a Controller. Best wishes on that endeavor.
In addition, you are delving into making your own music with the Push 2. Wow... That is a complex machine! You almost have to have a mental vision of what you want to compose -- not to mention being proficient a turning the knobs and pushing the buttons -- super complex! But as they say, "It's easy when you know how.".
Best wishes with all of the above.
Mike
Way back when, I was a controller with VATSIM, working Cleveland Center. My absolute favorite position was working CLE Tracon—-loved approach/departure.
Have fun with it. Some great folks at VATSIM who were always willing to help.
putting 8n big boy toys
A few days ago I
stole won an Avidyne EXP5000 moving map unit.
It has an RS232 input that is Garmin 430 compatible. It's a bit of a gamble but I'm going to try and get it working with the circuit I made to drive the Garmin MX20 moving map display.
trader Joe's car park . Please BE WARNED! Over the last month I have become a victim of a clever 'Eastern European' scam whilst out shopping.
Simply dropping into trader Joe's supermarket for a bit of shopping turned out to be quite an experience. Don't be naive enough to think it couldn't happen to you or your friends! Here's how the scam works:
Two very good-looking 20-21 year-old girls of eastern European origin come over to your car as you are packing your shopping into the boot. They both start cleaning your windscreen, their breasts almost falling out of their skimpy T- shirts. When you thank them and offer them a tip, they'll say 'No' and instead they ask you for a lift to another supermarket, in my case, HEB . You agree and they both get in the back seat.
On the way there, they start undressing, until both are completely naked. Then, when you pull over to remonstrate, one of them climbs over into the front seat and starts crawling all over your lap, kissing you, touching you intimately and thrusting herself against you, while the other one steals your wallet!
I had my wallet stolen on October 4th, 9th,10th, twice on the 15th, 17th, 20th, 24th and 29th. Also on November 1st, 4th, 6th, 9th and 10th and twice yesterday.So please warn all the older men you know to be on the lookout for this scam.
The best times seem to be just before lunch and about 4:30 in the afternoon.
P.S. Aldi have cheap wallets on sale for £1.99 each but Lidl wallets are £1.75 and look better!!
Quote from: bernard S on April 25, 2022, 03:35:14 PMtrader Joe's car park . Please BE WARNED! Over the last month I have become a victim of a clever 'Eastern European' scam whilst out shopping.
Simply dropping into trader Joe's supermarket for a bit of shopping turned out to be quite an experience. Don't be naive enough to think it couldn't happen to you or your friends! Here's how the scam works:
Two very good-looking 20-21 year-old girls of eastern European origin come over to your car as you are packing your shopping into the boot. They both start cleaning your windscreen, their breasts almost falling out of their skimpy T- shirts. When you thank them and offer them a tip, they'll say 'No' and instead they ask you for a lift to another supermarket, in my case, HEB . You agree and they both get in the back seat.
On the way there, they start undressing, until both are completely naked. Then, when you pull over to remonstrate, one of them climbs over into the front seat and starts crawling all over your lap, kissing you, touching you intimately and thrusting herself against you, while the other one steals your wallet!
I had my wallet stolen on October 4th, 9th,10th, twice on the 15th, 17th, 20th, 24th and 29th. Also on November 1st, 4th, 6th, 9th and 10th and twice yesterday.So please warn all the older men you know to be on the lookout for this scam.
The best times seem to be just before lunch and about 4:30 in the afternoon.
P.S. Aldi have cheap wallets on sale for £1.99 each but Lidl wallets are £1.75 and look better!!
LMFAO. This is funny stuff Bernard LOL
yeah bud ya needed a good laugh and thats tame for me lolol
Had some minor surgery done so couldn't sit at my workstation to do wiring, so since I was stuck on the couch, started from scratch on my PC's and have my main and avionics PC's updated to Windows 11, updated my avionics PC to a newer computer, and started to get my third PC setup that will run the IOS, Weather, and other misc apps.
That sinking feeling you get when you realize that while you were very careful to back most everything up, you forgot to backup your config file from prosim......UGH.
Video thingy no play-e ;D
More work on interfacing an Avidyne EX5000C MFD to X-Plane. So far, Heading, Lat/Lon, Groundspeed, Flight Track and Magnetic deviation are all working.
Still trying to figure out Altitude.
Also loaded it with new NAVData from Jeppesen. (Without bricking it!)
Sure wish Bob was still with us as he was keenly interested in this project and wanted one for his Beech.
forgot pic all paint removed
My god man... to live in your world! :-)
here is better view
Keep going and you'll be flying it soon! ;D
John
Working on a totally unnecessary panel :D
what is it with you lot..seriously..I built a 74 sim and it is fully functional using all real with collimated displays and I dont even get an atta boy !!!! on completion how many here have completed sims ? but you lot all get jucied up over a switch .then I get a full sized plane complete with engines to turn into a sim and again you all fail to show me the the love... Do I want well done thats cool etc etc oh hell yeah I do thats the reason why I post and secretly I think others would welcome an atta boy not just me .. so I think not not only me but others would share more if you gave our efforts some love as for me ..if you fail to show me the love I am taking my ball and I am going home and I will throw a hissy fit
Quote from: bernard S on May 05, 2022, 05:16:07 AMwhat is it with you lot..seriously..I built a 74 sim and it is fully functional using all real with collimated displays and I dont even get an atta boy !!!! on completion how many here have completed sims ? but you lot all get jucied up over a switch .then I get a full sized plane complete with engines to turn into a sim and again you all fail to show me the the love... Do I want well done thats cool etc etc oh hell yeah I do thats the reason why I post and secretly I think others would welcome an atta boy not just me .. so I think not not only me but others would share more if you gave our efforts some love as for me ..if you fail to show me the love I am taking my ball and I am going home and I will throw a hissy fit
That's cool, etc., etc..
Quote from: bernard S on May 05, 2022, 05:16:07 AMwhat is it with you lot..seriously..I built a 74 sim and it is fully functional using all real with collimated displays and I dont even get an atta boy !!!! on completion how many here have completed sims ? but you lot all get jucied up over a switch .then I get a full sized plane complete with engines to turn into a sim and again you all fail to show me the the love... Do I want well done thats cool etc etc oh hell yeah I do thats the reason why I post and secretly I think others would welcome an atta boy not just me .. so I think not not only me but others would share more if you gave our efforts some love as for me ..if you fail to show me the love I am taking my ball and I am going home and I will throw a hissy fit
Hey Bernard....calm down....is it that time of the month or something?
I don't think there is anyone here who is not in awe of what you are doing. What you are doing is leading edge kind of stuff. Super impressive for sure! I love it! We all love it!
But...from the beginning your project has had this shroud of mystery about it. There is a lot about it that we are all very curious to hear about. Much to share with us...For example...What avionics software will you be using? What is the plan to interface the hardware? How will the visuals work (could be a challenge with the view from the cockpit)? Is motion in the scope of things? And what about sound (perhaps via an oxygen mask)? Is hybrid virtual reality in the mix of things? Etc, etc, etc.
Right now we are all just hanging here in sort of a deer-in-the-headlights daze with with our jaws dropped open, but once you get into these cockpitbuilding technical aspects I am sure the engagement and dialogue will flow.
I bow to you!
Keep posting please!
Fred K
Bernard, I'm a Brit and as Fred said most of us are in awe of what you've acheived. For us in the UK the space you have is unthinkable Unless you have very deep pockets.
I've shown your latest project to many of my like minded friends who can't believe anyone would attempt such a mamouth task. But are nonetheless impressed and some even dare to dream.
So it may not be voiced that often but we all loook forward to your cryptic posts and wonder where you're going next with this very slick jet?
And what happened to the Aircraft Carrier Island?
Joe.
I think Bernard's comment was sort of tongue-in-cheek. (At least I hope it was...)Any one of us would absolutely LOVE a T-38 Talon or F-5 in our garage/Hangar/Warehouse... if only to make the neighbors insanely jealous.
Trust me, Bernard.. the sentiments are definitely there. :-) I'm hoping one day you might have an open house when we can pay our respects and drool in person.
While I enjoy tinkering with real avionics and try to make them work without first destroying them, you've taken the hobby to an astronomical level.
Understandably, most of us are at a loss for words. Don't mistake that as ambivalence... take it for what it truly is. Shock and awe. :-)
I'd cut off my neighbor's left nut to have the resources to do what you do!
Hello Bernard,
It's a fact that we live in a world that desires instant gratification. We all have a need for affirmation for who we are and what we do. That's the worldly part of being human.
The real question for all of is... Where and how do we find true peace and contentment in how we view life, within our hearts, and in the things we do? If the answer is through others, then we truly miss the boat. For when we depend on others, we are often disappointed, as we typically have an expectation to be recognized and have a bone tossed our way. Truth be known, when we don't receive accolades for what we do and share with others, we tend to have our own pity party -- not feelin' the love.
However, the reality on this Forum is most represented by the sharing our love for building Flight Simulators, which for most folks, is a hobby. That said, the nature of building anything complex, is that it is typically filled to the brim with multiple disciplines, stretching to the max the mental, physical, and financial capability of those embarking on such projects -- Sim building is no exception.
A good example of exercising capability to the MAX is Micky's FlightDeck. What he is doing is no less than amazing, and if that were not enough, he has a heart to share it with others! That's the true spirit of what I think this Forum is all about.
There is an old expression, "Feed your success, and starve your failures." In the art and practice of Sim building, we enjoy a stream of little failures as we strive to come up with successful Sim solutions. When we have come to a successful end-point, we often want to share our success with others -- be that a small Switch Module, or something more major like the acquisition of a T-38 to turn into a Sim. On one end of that scale are the minor accomplishments, and the other extreme end are the massive projects like what you have accomplished with your 747, and now your T-38 project. What can one say to this, except it's all good -- all worth sharing -- all worth commenting on.
So... Hats off to your Bernard. When it comes to Sim building, your bandwidth, aspirations, capabilities, fortitude, determination, and shear scale of your projects are way beyond what most folks on this Forum can comprehend. It seems that whatever you do, you do it BIG! Where most people look at a blank sheet of paper and all they see are obstacles and dilemma. Not you! You look at a blank sheet of paper and see your dreams -- then go and make them come true. You are a "get it done kind of guy"! In that regard, you are an inspiration to those here on this Forum.
I think I can speak for everyone on this Forum... We all admire what you have accomplished with your Sim projects, and especially delight in reading your updates/photos on the T-38 Sim project. Awesome undertaking!
Keep up the good work!
Mike
All I will say Bernard is that your not cooler than Elvis until those seats are recovered in Red Velvet Velour - You know what to do, now get it done ;)
Clocks, Finally working.
Bernard... do you know how to use photoshop?...common man, I left the door wide open for you!
Everything works on this Avidyne EX5000 MFD except the Altitude data. Took it for a flight last night to test the LAT/LON conversion accuracy. It's spot-on.
I have a whole bunch of ARINC-429 test gear on the way to help me figure out how to get ALT data into this thing....
This is more for Bernard than anyone else... ;-)
I have always loved the lines, the curves, the graceful beauty of the T-38. She is simply a gorgeous aircraft.
"For a plane to fly well, it has to be beautiful."
--Marcel Dassault
Quote from: RayS on May 10, 2022, 08:57:18 AMEverything works on this Avidyne EX5000 MFD except the Altitude data. Took it for a flight last night to test the LAT/LON conversion accuracy. It's spot-on.
I have a whole bunch of ARINC-429 test gear on the way to help me figure out how to get ALT data into this thing....
Are you taking $GPGGA? That's the only sentence containing altitude AFAIK.
I've tried the Following:
$GPGGA,210230,3855.4487,N,09446.0071,W,1,07,1.1,370.5,M,-29.5,M,,*
$GNGGA,001043.00,4404.14036,N,12118.85961,W,1,12,0.98,1113.0,M,-21.3,M*
However I think the $GPGGA and $GNGGA is for Fixes and not for Ownship, as the Avidyne doesn't show any altitude info using $GPGGA. (It does correctly show everything else in that sentence and instead of the center target being an aircraft outline, it's just a white + sign.
I would so much rather do this through the NMEA protocol rather than ARINC429, but I think this MFD is unique in that it gets ALT/HDG data from the EXP5000 PFD, then it's processed as TAWS data in the MFD.
Quote from: RayS on May 10, 2022, 04:36:03 PMI've tried the Following:
$GPGGA,210230,3855.4487,N,09446.0071,W,1,07,1.1,370.5,M,-29.5,M,,*
$GNGGA,001043.00,4404.14036,N,12118.85961,W,1,12,0.98,1113.0,M,-21.3,M*
However I think the $GPGGA and $GNGGA is for Fixes and not for Ownship, as the Avidyne doesn't show any altitude info using $GPGGA. (It does correctly show everything else in that sentence and instead of the center target being an aircraft outline, it's just a white + sign.
I would so much rather do this through the NMEA protocol rather than ARINC429, but I think this MFD is unique in that it gets ALT/HDG data from the EXP5000 PFD, then it's processed as TAWS data in the MFD.
Ok. I pasted the first example into two online parsers and got errors. Are you sure it is correctly constructed?
That aside I concur that your unit might collect altitude data from another instrument and ignore GPS altitude (because it's notoriously inaccurate).
Thanks for checking those sentences. Both of them parse and are accepted by the Avidyne without issue.
If the incoming NMEA data isn't valid the unit will report "Nav Source Data Format Error", or "Nav Data is NOT Valid!"
(Maybe that parser needs the checksum as well?)
Regardless, I'll keep experimenting with it but I suspect you are correct in that the unit won't accept altitude data from a GPS source because of the margin for error.
I ended up purchasing one of these yesterday to play around with. Seems promising.
https://www.cockpit-concept.de/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=25_41&products_id=88
I also have a few ARINC429 Arduino daughterboards based on the Holt HI-3593 transceiver chip but I haven't purchased those chips yet... Obscenely expensive...
I also have one of these: A Holt HI-3110 Gen. Purpose SPI Eval Board with an ARINC429 3593 eval board, but I haven't the foggiest idea how to use it. ::)
Quote from: RayS on May 10, 2022, 07:24:25 PMThanks for checking those sentences. Both of them parse and are accepted by the Avidyne without issue.
If the incoming NMEA data isn't valid the unit will report "Nav Source Data Format Error", or "Nav Data is NOT Valid!"
(Maybe that parser needs the checksum as well?)
Regardless, I'll keep experimenting with it but I suspect you are correct in that the unit won't accept altitude data from a GPS source because of the margin for error.
The two randomly chosen online parsers probably do expect a checksum. I'm surprised that your instrument accepts NMEA strings without them.
Quote from: ame on May 10, 2022, 10:25:59 PMThe two randomly chosen online parsers probably do expect a checksum. I'm surprised that your instrument accepts NMEA strings without them
Oh it does. I have to generate my own checksum for the sentence to be valid in the MFD.
My Arduino code to create the checksum:
byte convertToCRC(char *buff) {
// NMEA CRC: XOR each byte with previous for all chars between '$' and '*'
char c;
byte i;
byte start_with = 0;
byte end_with = 0;
byte crc = 0;
for (i = 0; i < buff_len; i++) {
c = buff;
if(c == '$'){
start_with = i;
}
if(c == '*'){
end_with = i;
}
}
if (end_with > start_with){
for (i = start_with+1; i < end_with; i++){ // XOR every character between '$' and '*'
crc = crc ^ buff ; // compute CRC
}
}
else { // else if error, print a msg (to both ports)
//Serial.println("CRC ERROR");
//HWSERIAL1.println("CRC ERROR");
}
return crc;
//based on code by Elimeléc López - July-19th-2013
}
I just read the entire Avidyne EX5000 maintenance guide and learned I can only inject ALT and OAT data through an ARINC429 port. The MFD will think is is coming from an EXP5000 unit or a Garmin variant if it's configured that way. (I can configure it as Avidyne has some secret setup menus. )
I built a small circuit tonight to convert TTL signals to ARINC429 signals but I'm afraid of actually connecting it. I really don't have a EX5000C MFD to spare... :-)
Had to take a break from working on the ARINC429 data to the Avidyne MFD.
I'm sure everyone in this hobby is painfully aware of the Ripple Effect: One very small change can snowball into several major projects.
That's exactly what has happened with the Avidyne project.
The sim is back in the hangar undergoing a (seemingly simple and easy) MIP color change. She's moving out of the '70s paint scheme into a more updated, modern 'Blackhawk' look.
Talk about opening a can of worms!
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What a great upgrade. The immersive effect has increased because it is what we expect the interior to look like !
Great job.
Some systems still need to be reconnected but overall I think it came out looking great!
Terrific!
fred K
Haven't done a thing since my operation....... that's 4 months without activity. :o
And now the heatwave season starts here in Italy, and I still don't have an airco installed in my sim hangar...... grrrrrr.....
I couldn't build anything anyway, because I now am in the midst of an attic cleaning, opening all moval boxes from our previous two moves, and throwing away lots of stuff. My sim floor is a total mess for now..... snifffff....
I was making inroads into learning to connect my old hardware, and also bought a 3D printer and did my first gauge rims......
Oh well...... it took me 40 years to get to this point, so a few more won't matter I suppose...
flight controls hydraulics ..not an easy job
Hey Bernard,
I'm impressed that you are making the hydraulics active. Be extra careful concerning hydraulic pressures and potential for leaks at such high pressures. Definitely wear hand and eye protection.
It's pretty exciting what you are doing! How about a video of the hydraulic test?
Mike
Not much going on here. Sat down with the Avidyne EX5000 MFD to work on a LAT/LON bug.
It was discovered during an East-bound flight as I crossed from -100.00 00 to -99.99 99 Longitude. Turned out to be a lead zero-padding issue.
Reworked the code to send -099.99 99 instead. Same issue for Latitude but that fix was a bit easier using the same methodology.
been working with Medusa right PITA
pic :-)
Ok, so it's not a flight sim, but my side sim-build is now almost complete. This virtual pinball machine can play hundreds of classic pinball games. It has a working coin mechanism, addressable LED lights sync'd to the games, solenoids to reproduce the feel and sound of flippers and bumpers, a gear motor to replicate mechanical sounds, table vibration, table surround sound so the ball sounds like it's moving around the table, hi def main sound system with sub for immersive sound, and on and on. A fun project if you're looking for something different.
I also finally got my 737-700 CB panels in. They will definitely add to the immersion when complete. It's going to take a lot of tweaking to get them to fit properly as the rear flange of the FDS shell is interfering with the CB's, which are mounted externally on my roll away rear bulkhead. Turns out when you roll the bulkhead up to the back of the FDS shell the flange blocks some of the CBs at the top. As with most things in this hobby, you have to do a lot of custom work and tweaking to get what you really want.
now that is super cool a pinball machine just the right touch for mancave i have shiney pole with base too add ;-)
Glad to see everyone still going on their sims! Especially, since virtual traveling is so much better these days ;D
Okay, this post is not about my simulator, but more so for the hanger. Karen and I put in 18 High Bay LED Lights, they're dimmer type, 5k at 15,000 lumens each. We put 3 lights per circuit with 6 dimmer/switches and 6 3-way switches (a set of switches near each door).
All I can say is DAMMMMNN IT's BRIGHT! RTFLOL :laugh:
Really though, it's like being inside at midday, yet it's 3am outside. Cannot believe we didn't put these in sooner! We left the 10 inset LED box lights that came from the La Crosse airport...nostalgia you know. That way we can use the new ones or old at anytime.
Hardest part was the wire runs, 400 feet of 12/3 and 200 of 12/2, plus another 300 of doorbell wire for the dimmers. Ask Karen how much fun she had with that?!
So, if you're thinking about lighting your hanger, sim room, or a for real 10,000 ft runway, go with High Bay LED lights. Oh, as a footnote, don't read the package of brightness levels at whatever spread distance from whatever height; instead, buy a couple and mount them up. Then, wire a plug temporarily and use an extension cord(s). This way you'll know for sure how bright they are and how many you'll need...we did that. Our original plan was 12 lights, but found the extra 6 filled in the shadows much better....
John
...that feeling you get when you fix a bug that almost made you walk away from the hobby.
Autopilot, for whatever reason, would not hold VS or ALT after the first flight. First flight was always fine, but taxi, gate, shutdown, restart, taxi, takeoff, the AP refused to hold VS and ALT.
Turns out I had the AP Disconnect configured incorrectly after installing the new (ish) 'Cobra head' yokes.
I had them set to turn off AP servos AND electric trim motors.
The trim motors do not auto-engage when the AP is turned back on.
primer
OMG! That is so awesome and it looks amazing with just primer!
Just by the looks of it, the Air Worthy Certificate is coming soon ;D
John
I need a better word than OMG. Your work and my envy are both sky high!
Just an updated photo of the pit. Recent addition is the Avidyne EX5000c MFD in the center MIP area.
I'd like to call this sim complete, but a new main system arrives tomorrow so I'll be adding that to fly X-Plane 12 when it's released.
Gorgeous!
Impressive for sure Ray!
Fred K
That is amazing Ray. Beautiful pit!
Scott
Bernard, I have long admired your work. What you are able to do as just one guy is phenomenal. Keep up the great work.
Ray, that cockpit is gorgeous! Nicely done.
Bravo @ Ray
Superb !
:2cw:
thanks everyone.... @ Ray, them be fighting words the sim is finished lololol
Bernard...
Impressive project for sure....
A question....
Will the eject seat be operational? I don't see any opening in the roof of the building to accommodate such. Launching the pilot out of there could be more fun than even flying it! Would add to the virtual reality aspect!
Fred K
Hey Ray,
Gotta say your sim is the most detailed GA sim I've ever seen! Beyond belief what you've done over the years and your patience is phenomenal....
Now, we all need to see some new flight videos from you 8)
John
more stuff
Super crisp work on those seats Bernard, they look brand new.
As a matter of interest are you going to fly this or turn it into a simulator?
I would be happy to just sit in it and power up the panel. LOL.
Many years ago my brother was in the RAF and I had the chance a sit in a fully armed Sepecat Jaguar, held ready for scramble in RAF Waddington. He flicked a couple of switches and the whole aircraft came alive... Frightened the life out of me! I couldn't wait to get out of the cockpit. 8)
Superb !! :P
Upgraded the main sim system to the XForce Total Overkill Ultra platform...
Amazing Cockpit ;)
What scenery ?
Jack
Ray...
Nice and smooth!
How many visual screens?
Fred K
That is spread across 3 86 inch LCD displays.
The scenery is Las Vegas by FlyTampa.
still at it
Hey Bernard...
Forget about the sim....With just a little more effort that aircraft could be flight worthy!
Still curious to know what you have planned for the visuals.
Fred K
Several weeks ago I posted an image of the newly-repainted MIP on the sim.
I used flat charcoal black. In retrospect, that was a bad choice because over time, the pure flat texture started to show every fingerprint and blemish, made worse by the near-black color.
So, tore everything down again and resprayed using a satin charcoal grey from Rustoleum. Perfect color and texture now.
No pics though... Y'all already know what the pit looks like. :-D
Hi All!
Been a little while. Deep into a Sim move/Upgrade ahead of WorldFlight.
I have changed from normal LED Strips to Chip on board (COB) LED Strips for AFDS and Background Floods in the 737. The Improvement is mental, hard to show in a photo, but it stood out massively when I turned them on today.
Also, finally got around to installing the FDS Map Lights.
Tomorrow's task is Anders Starter and Autobrake Switches and installing the Buttkickers.
A new 4.5m 220 Degree Screen is inbound from Tom at SimPits, which will be coupled with 3 x BenQ 4k projectors. I'm like a kid at Christmas over here!
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Quote from: crazydunc on July 22, 2022, 02:32:35 PMI have changed from normal LED Strips to Chip on board (COB) LED Strips for AFDS and Background Floods in the 737. The Improvement is mental, hard to show in a photo, but it stood out massively when I turned them on today.
Yup, COB LEDs are a much better solution for MIP lighting. I posted about it on my site last year after I discovered the same. I understand they've improved even more now.
Here's where I bought mine from:
https://www.solidapollo.com/Dotless-COB-LED-Strip/
these things complete
Making progress on the aft roll-away bulkhead with real CBs. Mostly finish work left now.
Trying to find a folding first observer jump seat. If anyone knows of one available please let me know otherwise I'll probably just make one.
Waiting on my linked FO rudder pedals from FSC. Then planning on building out a new base with real linked columns and control loading columns and rudder. Exciting times ahead.
Interesting concept!
Nice workmanship!
Fred K
Meant to post this quite a while ago, but here is the unboxing video for the CFY Throttle
CFY Unboxing Video (https://youtu.be/NsRyBojkqsw)
Thanks
Enjoy now !
Hey Jason... Congrats on the new TQ. Looks super nice!
Hi Tony... Great job on the "roll-away" CB Sections. Adding in all the detail should be a lot of fun.
Mike
My super-duper final-secret MIP is complete... Again.
Center MIP is all Garmin gear now.
Garmin 430: (Real, front panel controls with pop-out 430)
Garmin MX20: (Real, interfaced to X-Plane using a Microcontroller)
Garmin G5 PFD and ND: 3D printed Bezels, with G5 from Siminnovations.
This is it. This is the final version. I'm done! (At least until the weekend.....)
Hi Ray,
That image seems to be corrupted.
Joe.
Image looks OK here.
Impressive work for sure!
Fred K
Yes,very impressive and the image is okay now. Not sure if it was a problem on my end.
I like the green backlight.
Hello Ray,
That is one fine Sim build. Great job!
Mike
just doing air-conditioning for avionics bays
Great panel RayS what radios are you using your own or pre-made
I'm looking for radios for my helicopter sim pit
Rhys
Looks like Collins radio panels. I had a go at 3D printing some, but I don't have accurate dimensions. I expect they're close though:
https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/index.php?topic=7761.msg55676#msg55676
They are Collins-Style radios from FlightIllusion.
I actually have a few real Collins radios and the form factor matches the FI radios perfectly.
On another note, I spent the weekend re-arranging the sim hangar, to make room for my drum kit. Wife and I went to a local neighborhood concert and it was inspiring, so I moved the kit out of the attic and into the hangar. Just waiting on a few cables so I can mic everything up.
more red
Lookin'good
Nice work Bernard! How about a wide angle pic of the whole plane, so we can see how it's all coming together....
John
Quote from: RayS on August 09, 2022, 02:18:39 PMThis is it. This is the final version. I'm done! (At least until the weekend.....)
This looks amazing!
here ya go this weekends work
First Class Bernard! When you do something, you do it right! Can't wait to see the finished project. Keep up the good work!
Mike
PSU for Ejectuon Seats
psu for seats
Very anxious to see how the ejection seats work! I assume you have a retractable opening in the roof of the building to accommodate all that.
Fred K
another box
another box
forgot pic
a complete box;-)
Hi Bernard,
If I didn't know better... It looks like you are on-track to make this ship airworthy... :) I'm guessing that you are going to "light up" your Instrumentation Systems.
Great progress on your project! The attention to detail you are installing is quite amazing.
Mike
Been kinda slow here in Seattle. X-Plane 12 Open Beta just came out so been tinkering with that. It looks promising but alas, I may never be able to fly the Carenado 1900D in it since the company walked away from X-Plane to produce 2020 content exclusively.
AirfoilLabs has a King Air 350i but it's a hot mess. They market it as a study-level aircraft but it's not. Not even close.
Hopefully some enterprising company will produce a decent Beechcraft twin turbo.....
Hey Everyone,
Thank you for keeping this thread alive and I always read every post!
Surely, things are slow with Summer and all, but how about saying what you've been doing besides your simulator. Not hobbies, but like other projects or honey-do-list.
I'll start. Karen and I have been seal coating our 21 year old driveway. Yep, it's lasted that long because we seal coat it ourselves about every 4-5 years. Thus, we put down 4 coats, using 20 cans of 3 gal size crack/patch filler and 25 cans of 5 gal Acrylic Seal Coat...our driveway is long and wide.
Usually, I sit/lay on the ground filling cracks and such, as well as applying seal coat with a brush along the edges. Karen will apply the seal coat with a squeegee and we go at it together.
Only took a month of battling rain days, windy days with pine needles falling off our pine trees, and then really hot days of being on black as coal blacktop. Got overheated and Sun tanned all at the some time...let alone all the insects that like hot, sweaty humans served up on a black platter!
Beyond that, we built a 25' by 4' wooden boardwalk from the driveway to our storage shed; had 5 truckloads of gravel, at 22 ton each, brought in and we spread it with our skid steer. Plus, we had our house reshingled by a roofing company, but we helped somewhat with that on the ground.
Therefore, we've been really busy bees, or I should say Karen has been and I just play foreman. I will post some pics of us later....
John
Ps now do tell all the exciting things you've been doing ;D
Fun take on this thread. Here goes my update...
My wife and I are still trying to close out her mother's estate after she passed away last year. My mom's estate is finally closed but hers was a lot easier because my mom had no more holdings.
We've also been laying the groundwork for my eventual retirement at the end of the year. Longevity is not a thing in my family. Both my grandfathers died before they were 65, while my dad lived to the ripe old age of 70.
Seeing as how I'm now 60, we decided I should retire early, for obvious reasons.
We have a few projects going on around the house. We signed a contract last week to have the house re-sided and we're looking for a contractor to put in some shelving in the basement.
Life marches on... We'll be driving out to the Washington coast later this year to spread my mom and dad's ashes on the coast. They loved the ocean and used to drive from Ohio to Bar Harbor Maine every spring to just sit and watch the ocean waves and tour lighthouses.
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What do cockpit builders do at 2am when they cant sleep. They test out 30 year old static inverters :D
Quote from: Garys on September 13, 2022, 11:51:42 PMWhat do cockpit builders do at 2am when they cant sleep. They test out 30 year old static inverters :D
I haven't slept a wink since starting this hobby back in 1984!
Nothing much here. Its football and cheer season for the kids so very little time to fly. I have a few modules I need refresher training on in DCS.
Picked up XP12 but of course nothing really works with it yet.(looking at you RealityXP GTNs) That's Ok don't have time to set up my G1000's anyway
Doubt I will get much done this winter as I'm taking advantage of my work from home life and moving "Home" to the Philippines for 8 weeks starting Thanksgiving day.
Not quite on par with Ray as I still have 4 to go to 60, but I too will pull the plug then, so we are using part of the vacation to find our retirement property in the Philippines. Will look around Tagaytay, Bohol and Palawan while we are there. Also found a Navy Chief I worked with and haven't seen in 30 years so we will be meeting up for dinner.
Bohol will be spending some time with Marco Tammes from this here site as well.
Good to pop in on the builds once in awhile!
Took down two large crab-apple trees, trimmed some 100+yr old maple trees so they don't hit cars on the driveway, did a backsplash in our kitchen, and finally finished wiring my aft overhead. Working on the interfacing and scripting for it now. Oh, and college visits with my middle child. Busy summer to say the least!
Hi All
It has been a busy summer.
Team Virginia has been prepping for WorldFlight. Vince Thomas came by and helped with getting us up and running with live video streaming for this year. Works pretty well. We have three views setup with LogiTech Brio webcams. We found that OBS studio with Twitch works the best. Active USB cables also make a difference.
Getting the live video streaming up and running for this year was important because we plan to have local aviation students who are involved with our charity participate (WASP). See www.worldflightvirginia.net for details on all that.
I have also been hosting practice flights for the WFV crew.
Right now I am sitting on the deck of our tented camp unit in Hwange Reserve in Zimbabwe. Barb and I are doing a Southern Africa safari trip through the end of the month.
Fred K
Hi Fred,
Great report on World Flight Virginia... Looking forward to the event.
Have you tested RPN Approaches with Sim-Avionics? I was having some difficulties with my Sim. It seemed that VNAV was not going into its PTH mode. This might be something you want to check out prior to WF.
Stay safe in Zimbabwe... You and Barbara have a safe trip back home.
Mike
I haven't been back to Zimbabwe since 1988. Its such a beautiful country. I miss it.
Enjoy yourself and please be careful. There is no way I would go back there now.
Trev
Zimbabwean people were friendly, and we were not eaten by a lion. So all is OK.
On our way home now. Presently in the airport lounge at Kisane Botswana.
Did 3 bush flights sitting in the FO seat. Aircraft each time was a Grand Caravan of yesteryear vintage. Right side instrumentation mostly INOP, but left side upgraded to glass PFD and ND. Interesting experience. Animals on runway on landing at Binga airport. Interesting airport since the runway was paved and was long enough to land a 747. Interesting since the airport has no terminal building, just a "long drop" outhouse. A matter of priorities I guess.
Fred K
canopy mechanics complete
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Hello Bernard,
You are making amazing progress on this complex project. The attention to detail you are putting into these Assemblies is incredible. Really nice work!
Curious Question: Why does the Upper Red/White Connecting Rod have a slight "kink" in it? I'm guessing that there is not much stress on that function.
Keep up the good work.
Mike
Thank you yes both canopy mechanics are exceptionally complex
so the canopies are mechanically operated push pull bars etc etc the candy bits are used to lock and tension and hold the springs when the canopy is in open position you can not open nor close canopy without them
the candy bars are are calked red bars because they are normally red but I wanted something different my airframe my rules (sometimes) they are no hold no grab bars
normally if one looses their footing and it happens the default is to grab these bars when bent they are poked and have to be replaced
Yes exceptional work there Bernard.
As a matter of interest did your aircraft come with engines and if so are you going to overhaul them as well?
Joe
as a flippant answer ..do ya really think I would have an airframe without engines ?
Constance demands that she be fully dressed before going to the ball ;-)
Been working on a side project to get a recently-acquired Garmin GMX-200 MFD to work with 2020.
I've already got an MX-20 working with XP-11, so the -200 will be a nice side-by-side install.
However, writing controller code to talk to 2020 isn't a walk in the park. I may never go to 2020, instead soldiering on with XP-12. It's good to have options.
Trying to get an Arduino to work with 2020 is like writing good ol' fashioned spaghetti code.
Ray, have you ever looked at MobiFlight? I realise it's another level of coding but it's so easy to get stuff working in 2020 combined with Arduino's.
Just a thought!!
Joe.
I looked at Mobiflight and I think it's a great solution, but not a good fit for my pit. For simple discrete I/O functionality it's easy and quick. If you need to go beyond steppers, then the utility of it falls sharply.
A few things held me back from using MF:
1. It's middleware (I try to not use it when I can get away with it)
2. The Stepper library isn't very robust, especially initial startup/calibration. The developer suggested I install a mechanical switch in each gauge to get zero-position. That's not feasible for most of my gauges when I can simply drive them stop-to-stop and calibrate that way.
The Garmin MX200 project is a smashing success. At about 11pm last night I fired it up after finishing the last wiring bits & coding... it tracks X-Plane perfectly.
Installation begins tonight.
I'm not surprised Ray, if you are competent at coding MF is not really an option. But I tried to get to grips with Arduino coding a few years ago and failed miserably. Naturally I could light an LED and detect a switch but that was the limit of my successes. :)
I agree the stepper control needs work, particularly as he doesn't support the small motors fitted to most vehicle gauges. Yet he does all the MF stuff for free, so it wouldn't be polite to complain. 8)
Great to here you got it all up and running in the end.
Joe
So, this was a lot of work... More than I expected. You'll remember back in June, my awesome Avidyne EX5000 MFD died. Avidyne wanted about $8K to repair it.
Nope.
I went through several center MIP iterations after that (None of which I was really happy with) before finally getting another Garmin GMX200 MFD. This was a huge score off eBay.
A few days of working on the controller code and now I have side-by-side GMX units working.
Ironically, the difficult part was wedging these things in between the Avidyne PFD units. I had literally 1/8th of an inch to spare.
Hi Ray,
Congratulations on your project status! This is truly a technical work of art. Not too many folks can pull together the electro-mechanical and software elements to make such a fine cockpit. Nice work!
Mike
Superb..luv-it ;)
Looks terrific Ray!
Fred K
working this
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With WorldFlight around the corner again it's been a busy month or so to get ready.
Completely revamped Audio system:
- 1 x 5.1 System for Cockpit.
- 1 x 2.1 System for Engine and Aircraft Sounds
- ButtKickers in each of the crew seats.
- MIP and Glareshield Lighting Updates
- Tiller Recondition
- FDS ACP Wired in to Control vPilot Audio other Ethernet.
- Visuals System replaced with a 4.5m 220 Degree Screen and 3 x BenQ TK700STi 4K Projectors.
- Pax Seating added to the rear of the sim with headsets for WF.
The upgrade from 3 x 1080p Optoma projectors to 4 x 4K BenQ has blown my mind. When coupled with the added FOV, from 180 to 220, it has changed the sim so much!
I will try and get some pictures with my Nikon tomorrow, it should do it more justice than the iPhone pics below.
Superb, frame rate OK with the 3 X 4K ?
Yeah wow! What are you using to drive those 3 projectors?
Currently running an i7-9700K at 5.0GHz and a 2080Ti.
I was concerned that FPS would tank with the 3 x 4K, I did have to lower some settings and balance things out again vs 3 x 1080P. However, I'm holding 30FPS whilst scooting up the Hudson for the Visual into LGA.
In the long run, I am looking at a 13th Gen Intel CPU with a 4090, but for the time being, I'm super happy with how it's all running.
Not much regarding what I've done lately, but a pic to show *where* it all happens.
Somehow I was able to talk the wife into letting me convert our 2 car garage into a man cave.
Ray...
And just where is your sim located in the scheme of things?
Might be pushing things a little too far with your fine lady on multiple fronts.
Nice look though!
Fred K
Hey Ray,
I've been watching your pic and video updates. YT is recommending them, so you're making the algorithm perk up....
Keep'em coming ;D
John
That's interesting... I was thinking of switching streaming platforms from Twitch to Youtube... Might have to get serious about that...
Fred,
The sim in that photo is barely visible just off the right hand side. My better half was actually excited to get me into the garage and out of her newly remodeled Yoga room. ;-)
Ray
I get it now.... you fooled me with that fine wood finish luxury aircraft look! I thought that was a piece of fine furniture or something.
Fred K
Hey Ray,
This is the one that got recommended:
https://youtu.be/_vxrpVZEsv8
Otherwise, yes you should do live streams from YT like you did 6 years ago. However, I think what would sell it is putting your personality out there, that and catchy titles....
John
just more stuff :-)
Bernard...Impressive for sure, but is this a sim project or an aircraft refurbishment project? Serious question.
If a sim project...very difficult to envision where all this is leading to.
Fred K
I am rebuilding my piper comanche cockpit, using real yokes.
I am making my own force feedback hardware and software for it.
A configurable central box with a teensy, received data from xplane/p3d/msfs and drive the motor for forces.
Step by Step.
Yoke system:
Central box:
Arturo.
Fred ..sim project I see the road map so its golden :-)
adding more items
Hey Bernard....A lot of very interesting things and items for sure, and your vision moving forward is "golden" as you say.
But everyone else is awaiting the vision reveal in agonizing anticipation. I am losing sleep at night thinking about it.
Any hints?
For example.... What is the plan to interface all the "things"? There are a lot of "things" here to deal with. And how will the visuals work?
Fred K
Bernard...In consideration of what you have invested here and the nature of the aircraft...why not spherical dome projection?
Help me...I am going to lose a bet on that.
Fred K
mainly because I need 2nd part view ( rear seat) also the overall size of it distracts from the overall site of the aircraft to the eye it destroys the illusion am i thinking correctly visuals are last on my list i would have gone MR/VR but its not there yet mainly mapping
I have installed the encoder in aileron axis in the force feedback system and test a standard spring force.
Arturo.
I have gone to Philippines for two months to let the sim rest :)
another thing sorted now linked
AP following code done today in the home made dual yoke force feedback system.
Arturo.
Today I have made a "promotional video" ;D of my home made dual yoke force feedback system.
Arturo.
Hey Arturo,
Definitely a good video!
John
Hey Bernard,
Glad to see you're still at it with the fighter. It's truly amazing what you're doing.
And, I do hope to visit you, as well as Mike sometime in the near future....
Kind Regards,
John
Still working on my overhead. Been posting a lot over on instagram, at least a few times a week. #Lohrenz737
Last major component to interface and I'm done with 4 panels and have about another 12 to go on the overhead.
Then it's time to assemble everything into the cockpit. I'm starting to see a little bit of light at the end of the tunnel.
Oh, also nabbed some black friday deals as my main simulator PC, while a great workhorse 8700k needs some upgrades. Moving to a 12900k and waiting for a 4090 to show up. With illusions of finding some refurbished 4k projectors next year so I can update my 1080p setup to HI-FI.
Happy Holidays / Merry Christmas to all here.
Jason
@ john sure bring x1 of 3 things decent single malt bbq or lies :-)
I've been doing some thinking about how the sim interacts with X-Plane 11. I'd also like it to work with MSFS2020 but how to essentially "dual-Boot" the sim?
For the sim to be compatible on both platforms (Seems we're in a period of transition with XP12 and 2020) I think I have something workable. It will require a ground-up retooling of all the microcontroller circuits but I'm up for the challenge....
Ray...Interesting.
What is the advantage of this method versus just splitting the hardware connections (with some kind of switch) between the two sims?
Fred K
I'm glad you asked, Fred~
There's essentially 2 problems at play here...
Wrench #1:
There is a plug-in I use for X-Plane to talk to the microcontrollers. Unfortunately, this plugin only works with a very small line of microcontrollers: Teensy 3.2, and 3.5 (Maybe 4.0 but I haven't tested it yet) so my entire microcontroller architecture uses Teensy 3.2.
Wrench #2:
The software I'll use to interface to MSFS only works with Arduino cards. Teensy cards won't work due to some anomalies with how the Teensy cards manage their USB ports. (Of course, right?)
So how to bridge that gap? Connect the Teensy 3.2 to the Arduino 256 via the on-board serial ports.
Over time though I may go to 2020 full-time, which brings up solution #3:
I made a daughterboard for the Arduino 256 that will allow me to remove-in-place all the Teensy cards and plug in an Arduino card using the same code into the existing interface circuitry I built.
This method allows me to use all the existing interfaces while allowing me to connect to 2020.
I can't recall ever in this hobby such a difficult transition period. The only time that comes to mind is when Microsoft pulled the plug on FSX. It forced us onto other platforms.
I have it on good authority that Lockheed-Martin has also contracted with BlackShark to provide updated visuals for P3D, (Same visuals as MSFS2020) so that will be an interesting story to follow.
In my opinion, the future for X-Plane looks pretty grim. Austin is doing his dandiest to boost X-Plane's relevance in the market space but I think it's too little too late.
Laminar Research has been tone-deaf to the industry for quite awhile. LR has stated quite loudly that they want to build upon their footprint in the commercial training market, but then with XP-12, they broke the ONE thing that enables us home cockpit builders to do what we do: the XPUIPC plugin. (And there's no guarantee that the XPUIPC owners will update it)
As such, X-Plane 12 is a non-starter for me. I can't even run it.
Microsoft and Lockheed-Martin have deep pockets. Laminar Research has.... well.... fighting robots on Mars and wing rivet optimization.
Money is literally falling from the sky if you are in the 2020 marketspace. Large 3rd-party vendors like ORBX and several aircraft developers like Carenado have abandoned any future X-Plane products and are focused exclusively on 2020.
If Lockheed-Martin updates their product with Blackshark, X-Plane is dead.
That's a very interesting perspective! Since I'm still in the interfacing stage for my pit I've gone the route of arduinos for most everything outside my pedestal and aft-overhead. I'm using mobiflight and switching between MSFS and P3D is a breeze with this setup. Figure I'll have my rig ready to run on either sim depending on how things continue to develop.
I have $$$$ invested in P3D addons to make it more realistic with a multitude of airport sceneries that unfortunately are no longer being updated. This year I took advantage of some black friday sales and started building my MSFS scenery pool and also my first major PC update in 6 years. Only waiting on a MSRP 4090 to become available and I'll be ready to go soon.
I am still running X-Plane on my desktop sim. I have started to run XP 12 and testing with my favorite GA plane, the Torquesim SR22 TN. Perfect platform for GA and IFR training. I also have the Realsimgear G1000s and such which make it really awesome and engrossing. So far XP12 looks pretty good and promising for this platform. In addition, Realsimgear are also supporting FS2020 so I am able to easily switch between. I do have a teensy 3.2 running some stuff for this right now and I hear they are being discontinued. Still a great platform for IFR training and currency.
The plan for the big sim is Prosim 737 and MSFS 2020 right now. I haven't tried FS2020 multi-screen visuals yet but I know some have with good success. I plan on upgrading my 60" LCDs to 3 75" ones and using lcd warping. I also plan on building out a new PC this year (maybe just going with Jetline Systems or someone else to build it this time). We shall see...
Scott
still fighting my fnd cart not a friendly unit to dismantle
Hey Guys,
Not sure if you remember this, but I tried a dual boot setup with MSFS2020 and P3D, and it worked okay. However, with W10/W11 constantly changing drivers and such, it became problematic to say the least...let alone the gremlins.
In the end, I just setup two complete systems, one for 2020 and the other for P3D. And yes, it was hard at first, but all I had too do was keep a log book of all the changes to each system, while keeping them totally separate. Then, when it came to flying either one, I just moved some audio, video and USB cables. Or, like Fred mentioned, I used switch boxes.
Knowingly, it cost more to follow this two systems path, but once they're setup and working you can always keep one or both flying. For weeks it would be 2020 and others it was P3D. In both cases one was always working.
Unfortunately, I learned this way too late in my sim building history. I was always doing the dual boot method for years...and chasing the rabbit.
Even though I'm not flying now, I still have both computer systems without a simulator. The question is, what's my next move...I purchased three 60" LED Screens that are still in the boxes. And, I still have all the CH items, along with the GoFlight items. Thus, I might just do a KingAir desktop setup, with both of the computer systems.
Or...I'll just keep building Lego sets...LOL!
Current as of today:
https://youtube.com/@TheBlueskydriver
John
doing stuff never ends
pic lol.
It begins... The conversion from X-Plane to FS2020. Found a great middleware app that interfaces any microcontroller to 2020. The micro-controller code is a bit complex but has proven to be rock-solid.
I made a daughterboard for the Arduino 256 that increases pin density with some modularity. The Teensy card on the daughterboard will let me still use X-Plane if I need to. However the last few flights I did with 2020 really has me sold on it.
There's a lot of critical middleware for X-Plane that doesn't appear to be getting any love, and since most, if not all, 3rd-party developers have abandoned X-Plane in favor of 2020, the writing is on the wall.
I will even lose my beloved B1900-D flight model because Carenado won't update it for XP-12.
Brief video update on my last major portion of the cockpit to interface.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CnDutgXDXKo/?utm_source=ig_web_button_native_share
Hello Jason,
Great video! Nice to see how well organized your Overhead project is, and how well you have documented things. That will pay off when you integrate the various systems in your Sim. Also, your new computer system is a reminder that we should consider from time-to-time upgrading our Sim computers. Thanks for sharing, and deep up the good work!
Mike
finally got her in
Yessssss !
:D
the light cart that is what o am taling about
More work on the FS2020 conversion from X-Plane....
Wasn't really happy with the default King Air 350 in FS2020, so did a bit of research and found a Mod from a company called Black Square.
(https://contrail.shop/products/steam-gauge-overhaul-analog-king-air-msfs (https://contrail.shop/products/steam-gauge-overhaul-analog-king-air-msfs))
They don't create aircraft, but heavily modify the default FS2020 aircraft, essentially replacing all the internal systems and flight modeling, leaving only the exterior model alone.
I think I'm in love. This thing flies smoothly and doesn't have "a mind of it's own" like the AirFoil Labs KA350. My biggest concern (Other than modeling all the switchology correctly) was how she behaves on the ground. Turns out she's very docile, and will only creep up in groundspeed slowly. (Unlike the Airfoil Labs version which taxied like a bat out of hell)
She also has a service ceiling of 35,000ft and a top speed of 290kts indicated. (Almost as fast as you big boys out there...)
There's a few issues with the BATT and EXT PWR switches but I think I can work past it.
It can also run full-screen without a cockpit interior by commenting out 1 line in the model.cfg file.
wow - envy just doesn't seem a strong enough word ! :)
A short jaunt in the FS2020 KingAir 350i with the Black Square Mod....
She is a dream to fly. And the best part is that they've exposed everything via XML. I'll be able to get/set every variable in the aircraft using Arduino.
The center console has been ripped out... again... to reprogram the sim for FS2020.
(Now if I could just get rid of the windshield wipers!)
The conversion to FS2020 continues.... Pulled out the entire center console tonight to rework/rewire a few things. (Bob would be proud! :-) )
YOU GO Ray! ;D
Hello Ray,
Fantastic job on your Sim! I greatly enjoy your videos.
Mike
Wow! Been awhile since I've posted any updates....
I've spent the past 6 months doing a conversion from X-Plane to FS2020 using the Black Square King Air 350i.
It has not been easy. Needed to learn Reverse Polish Notation, and add a few more software interfaces which required their own learning curves.
At one point I was pretty much resigned to rolling it out to the curb and let the garbage collectors handle it.
However it is now flyable with only a few subsystems left to convert.
Thanks to James T, Ryan O, Hans Billiet, Matthias Schaaf, and lastly TDS Software.
Image below is slightly magenta-tinted as it was shot at sunset.
Congratulations Ray! Beautiful cockpit result. Persistence pays off!
We all have those days, when the Sim Project moves closer to the Dumpster. Nothing like the feeling when it all comes together.
Once again... Great job on your project!
Mike
Wow! Really nice.
Hello Folks,
Incremental progress on our full-scale Sim Projects seems to be a never ending goal. In that light, I am working on refining some of the cockpit details in the AFT Section of my 737 Flight Deck.
The photo here shows work on the First Officer AFT panels and various compartments. I have tried to include items like the Data Logging panel, Isle Observer Seat O2 panel, Head Set compartment, IRS - Master Caution Panels, Hat Clips, etc. The Circuit Breaker panels, Isle Observer Seat, and Cockpit Door are real 737 parts.
As a side note... The panel support structure is fabricated from 1" thin-wall steel tubing, welded together in a matrix to allow for various panel attachment. This structure needs to be strong enough to hold up to the vibration induced by the Motion Platform. Each side of AFT Section (CA and FO Modules) are "hinged" to the outer left/right Nose Section structure, such that they can individually "swing out", allowing fully open and easy access to the Flight Deck for work/maintenance. These same modules swing back in place and bolt to the Flight Deck Floor to their correct position.
The panel material I chose is 1/8" thick shower-board, which is fairly strong, and easily cut/machined to fabricate various panel parts in an effort to give a sense of being in a real 737 cockpit.
Next up is to finish work on the CA side panels/compartments/detail.
Mike
Update on the Conversion to 2020....
Phase 1 is complete! I've finally kicked the keyboard and mouse out of the right seat.
Had I known all that was involved before starting this, I would have said "Nah... I'm good."
Took about 8 months. Still have a few more systems to convert but they are not listed in the MEL so It can fly with those items down.
Using:
1. MSFS2020
2. Black Square King Air 350i
3. Interface API's from Mattias Schaafer and Hans Billiet
4. Spad.Next
And somehow, I learned how to read/Write in Reverse Polish Notation.
A Force feedback system finished. Home made hardware, electronics and software.
Ready to go to his final owner and mounted in his cockpit.
After a brief hiatus back at the build. Got the projector screen mounted this weekend. Have a bit of stretching to finish up yet on the right side.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwQnwLxPTJN/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Looks really nice! What projectors are you using?
Mike
I had Optoma 1080GT Darbee's but got a heck of a deal on a 4k upgrade, so now I have 3 Optoma UHD35stx projectors and will be running at 4k. Hope to get it all calibrated this weekend.
Sounds like a nice setup... The 4k input to your projectors will help refine the visuals. Good luck with the project.
I also just upgraded to the Optoma UHD35stx projectors. You will be happy with the upgrade
On another thread we just finished interfacing some fuel gauges and flaps indicator with link2fs and Arduino:
https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/index.php?topic=8511
I have built some comercial grade force feedback units for custom made systems. More info in the thread:
https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/index.php?topic=8478.new#new (https://www.cockpitbuilders.com/index.php?topic=8478.new#new)
I am going to build a remote display unit version, so you have a 2 1/4" gauge in the panel to setup the force feedback system.
And an updated firmware to work with MSFS.
Video with a example system driven by this unit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McFk3TkWj5c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McFk3TkWj5c)
Arturo.
Hi guys.
To my old friends, no I'm not a goner, still kicking!!
I finally was able to dig my password and login.
I recently had to re install all software and upgrade some hardware in my 737NG sim. Lots of pain. Incredible how one forgets details.
The pain started on reinstalling Windows 7, YES, Windows 7, call me archaic or whatever but I refuse to bow to MS telemetry and painful updates. I only use Windows for my sim, for everything else, Linux.
After installing the OS, installation of P3D v4.5.1 failed, oh horror. It turned out that .NET 7.4.2 failed repeatedly with an error of failure to authenticate (I could install it without sweat of my previous W7 SP1 installation) Multiple searches on Google and DucDuckGo yielded no solutions until I tried searching on Yandex. The issue was that SP1 uses SHA1 authentication and .NET uses SHA2 authentication. SHA2 was installed through Windows updates in the past, not anymore. So, I had to download the update manually.
I decided to install as little addons as possible. Only P3d v4 compatible airports for stability. My previous system had all sorts of garbage that caused unknown failures. Then Orbx changed everything and they did not even have my previous credentials, which meant that all my previous investment went up in a puff. So no AiTraffic or any kind of external traffic. P3D was snap since it does not depend on the registry, just copy the folder and voila. The reprogram Flight Illusion and some lights and switches since again, the Windows USB stack is a mess.
I do not know about the pains of Win11 for this type of setup but the way things are going, everything needs access to the net in order to work, or registration of your data which again, will be for sale.
I don't know what will happen with the next Windows iteration. They are always full of surprises.
In the meantime, I continue to enjoy my sim under Win7, and is solid stable now.
Warmest regards to all
Joaquin
I have been experimenting with laser ablation of paint for panel decals.
I read everything I could, then had a go. The photo shows 3mm MDF painted with several layers of cheap white spray paint, two layers of clear lacquer, and two layers of quality top paint (Rust-oleum Satin Granite).
I used a 10W LED laser in raster mode at about 3000mm/min and 30% power. I still have to do more experiments, but those are the settings that gave reasonable results.
Obviously it doesn't work for backlit panels, although I think you could replace the MDF with opal acrylic.
I didn't take a huge amount of care, but it worked well. I'll see if I can replicate the results with a similar lack of care later.
Using the laser in this way also ensures alignment between the decal and the cuts, because they are done without removing the workpiece from the laser cutter. Although now I'll have to figure out how to paint the edges without overspraying the decal again.
Very interesting results! What type/model of CNC Laser Engraver are you using!
Mike
It's an Emblaser 2 10W. A little expensive, but very safe, and ready to go out of the box.
The technique will work with any laser, but it's a question of getting the speed/power just right.
I have a 60 watt, 600 x 400 laser and the best method I found for panels was clear acrylic sprayed with multiple coats of high build white primer, followed by about three coats of the RAL 7011 grey.
But to get the best spread of backlight when embedding the LEDs in the panel, the LEDs (or bulbs) must not be placed directly under the lettering. Also the back of the panel should ideally be painted black.
However there are many other methods to create lettering. One the looks great but cannot be backlit is white wax rubbed into the engraving. That came from HeliMech on YouTube.
This week I have been mostly working on panels for the Challenger 300 glare shield. There are three panels: master caution, FGP, and DCP. The master caution and DCP are duplicated for Pilot and FO, so five panels in total.
Master caution is tiny, so it's easy. FGP is drawn, but I am waiting for components to arrive to be sure they match the technical drawings before I print or cut anything.
What is the icon for the sound of crickets chirping?
I'm on holiday at the moment, but when I get back I will do three things. One, build the panels I mentioned, together with a support panel that looks like the glare shield. Two, write code for an Arduino that monitors the buttons and rotary encoders, and controls the Master Caution LEDs and glare shield lighting strip. Three, integrate this with X-Plane.
The panels will be interesting as I will integrate 3D printing and laser etching for backlit decals and keycaps.
I'm writing about this on another site (sorry), but just curious if anyone on cockpitbuilders.com is, um, building a cockpit?
It is awfully quiet here for some time now. I'm in the midst of my cockpit build still. I post updates on my own website and Instagram.
Excellent!
Incidentally, if anyone has access to a real Bombardier Challenger 300 let me know. On the other site I'm in touch with a pilot, but the more sources of data I have the less work any individual has to do.
Hey Guys,
Even though I'm no longer building, I still check this everyday to follow along. Or, to torment myself...lol!
Just glad to see that things are still happening here after all these years!
So, don't let crickets chirping get you, because after a while they chirp in symphony and make awesome music that everyone comes back to hear. In other words, keep building/posting and they will come back to see your work....
John
My force feedback system is finally working with MSFS.
I am rebuilding my A2A piper comanche to migrate all the systems to MSFS.
Bye bye p3d.
Arturo.
I have been playing with UDP communication directly from an Arduino with Ethernet module to X-Plane.
It seemed to me that no-one was doing it, and instead relying on the Arduino USB serial interface communicating via a plugin.
I connected a Wiznet W5500 module to an Arduino Nano and installed the Ethernet library. I created a UDP object and used it to send and receive packets with X-Plane on port 49000.
I sent some RREF messages to subscribe to Master Warning and Master Caution, which worked. In my Arduino code I can read the result and turn two LEDs on or off accordingly.
I can also send a CMND packet to execute an X-Plane command, or a DREF packet to change a dataref value.
It all works. No plugins necessary.
Poor quality photo of Master Warning/Master Caution panel, indicators, and switch. It's a 33mm square arcade button that has been filed down, with a 3D-printed LED holder inside and a baffle to keep the red LEDs and yellow LEDs separate.
The LEDs match the state of the sim indicators by subscribing to two datarefs. The indicators are cleared when the button is pressed by sending two CMND messages.
Quote from: blueskydriver on December 02, 2023, 09:13:18 AMHey Guys,
Even though I'm no longer building, I still check this everyday to follow along. Or, to torment myself...lol!
Just glad to see that things are still happening here after all these years!
So, don't let crickets chirping get you, because after a while they chirp in symphony and make awesome music that everyone comes back to hear. In other words, keep building/posting and they will come back to see your work....
John
You're still building legos though right?
I have built and improved version of my Insight G4 engine monitor. especially designed for the A2A Piper Comanche. But great for advanded sim aircrafts with per cylinder temps. (A2A, Airfoillabs..)
Beautiful work. Congrats.
A new gauge! A led angle of attack indicator:
Arturo.