Help in building a GTN 650/750 for Reality XP

[blueskydriver]

Hi Michael,

Can you ask your friend which Slicer Program he uses? The DA VINCI 1.0 PRO 3D is the name/model of the printer itself, but I need to know what type of program he uses and what type of .STL he needs it in... Is it Binary or Ascii?

I'm going to go ahead and email you both file types, this is for the GTN 750 only.

John

[blueskydriver]

Hey Everyone,

I know on Cockpit Builders we all help one another from time to time, but sometimes it really goes unnoticed. However, today I want to send a big thank you to Arturo for helping Michael with his Garmin Bezel project.

Arturo shared his own 3D file along with making many changes and he uploaded everything several times, as well as he did all of this with very short notice and a fast turn around time. Thus, Arturo thank you so much, as you showed how this website and it's members really do go all out for each another...

Kind Regards,

John

[Trooping]

All,

Im very interested to see how these come out - might need couple when I plan my new build....

Joe.

[blueskydriver]

I meant each other on that last sentence...silly me 

[_alioth_]

oh John, thanks for your words!

When I started with cockpit building, I had the feeling that this hobby was a little "hermetic" compared to others.
It is not always easy to find help or knowledge.

So, we all have to try to change that! Forums like this are oasis in a desert!

Arturo.

[redman]

I'm extremely grateful for all your support!

Joining this forum I was hoping to find some answers as I'm new to cockpit building. I have to say that the help received here exceeded my greatest expectations 

Once I have the GTNs printed and assembled I will post some pics and comments.


Michael

[archen]

Hi,
I'm curious. Do you plan to use a second monitor for the GPS or is it possible to use realityxp software over the network?

Br.
Anders

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[redman]

I'm curious. Do you plan to use a second monitor for the GPS or is it possible to use realityxp software over the network?

Hi Anders,

there's no possibility to use RXP over the network since it needs to be installed on the same station as X-Plane.

Yes, I'll be using it on a second touch screen via hdmi. This is done by moving the pop-up window from X-Plane to a second monitor.

Best,
Michael

[archen]

Thanks Michael ?

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[blueskydriver]

-Hey Arturo,

You're Welcome! You deserve lots of kudos (thanks) for helping others...thanks again. And, I agree totally, this website is an oasis in a vast internet sea. IMHO it's the best in the flight sim community ever!


-Hi Michael,

Did your friend print one out yet? Like others, I'm curious too see it printed. If I get a chance this week, I'll print one. What is the color used by Garmin, black, dark grey or ?

Kind Regards,

John

[redman]

Hey John,

Not yet, I might have an alternative and print the bezel in SLS technology instead of the FDM I was planning. SLS quality is much better when compared to FDM... The drawback is it might take little longer 

What technology are you using for printing?

The color used by Garmin is rather black, just as the GNS 430/530.

Best,

Michael

[blueskydriver]

Hi Michael,

I'm using all FDM since the cost of SLS is rather steep to own a printer of that type. However, there are a lot of online services that will print SLS for a decent fee, and all you have to do is send them your .STL file. So, that is what I do for now.

Funny story though, an SLS printer was listed on Public Surplus recently and it went for a few thousand dollars; although, it was worth 50 times that amount. An University was upgrading and decided to sell it. Sadly, I passed on it because of the electrical and environmental requirements...

John

[redman]

Hey John,

Owning a decent SLS printer is out of the question for most if not all of us 
I might consider getting myself a FDM one, but for now I havn't got any spare room to keep it.

Anyway Guys, I'm getting both the GTN and Aspen bezels printed tomorrow. I'm getting it done in SLS technology since an acquaintance of mine has one at work and he's giving me a discount... He quoted me $130 for both bezels with 15 additional elemnets (buttons, knobs etc.) and painting. I guess this is a decent price since I'd have to pay about $60 for printing it commercially in FDM.

Here's a picture of both bezels in their final version

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[FlyingCheese]

I may have missed it, but have you identified what kind of touch display you're using for your GTN?  I've been working on something similar and stumbled across this thread - I'm having a difficult time finding a touchscreen display that will work properly in Windows 10 as a second display.  The couple I've tried from Amazon all seem to emulate a simple HID device which directs the 'touch' back to the primary display - I haven't found drivers for anything yet.

[Trooping]

Michael,

The bezels look awsome, please do post pictures once you get it printed and up and running.  Are you planning on making just the GTN750 bezel, or at least can the drawing be split so you just print the 750? ( Im very interested in getting these printed myself, but I need to operate them side by side so no need for the 650 )

Joe.

[redman]

I may have missed it, but have you identified what kind of touch display you're using for your GTN?  I've been working on something similar and stumbled across this thread - I'm having a difficult time finding a touchscreen display that will work properly in Windows 10 as a second display.  The couple I've tried from Amazon all seem to emulate a simple HID device which directs the 'touch' back to the primary display - I haven't found drivers for anything yet.

I haven't found anything on eBay or Amazon either...
The thing you're looking for is a 10.1" LCD resistive touch screen monitor with hdmi and USB from Aliexpress. You can find a number of those on the website e.g. :

https://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/0.html?spm=a2g0s.9042647.6.2.3e414c4ddCKur7&orderId=98145887661690&productId=32820610765

You connect it as a second monitor via hdmi and the usb controls the touch functions, no drivers needed...

[redman]

Michael,

The bezels look awsome, please do post pictures once you get it printed and up and running.  Are you planning on making just the GTN750 bezel, or at least can the drawing be split so you just print the 750? ( Im very interested in getting these printed myself, but I need to operate them side by side so no need for the 650 )

Joe.

Hi Joe,

Thanks, I'll definitely post some pictures and keep you updated on the progress of the project 
I'm planning to use both the 650 and 750 as it is designed as a stack, that is one piece. In my case that was the plan from the very beginning...

Michael

[redman]

Hi everyone!

A little update on the project...

So I've printed the GTN stack and it looks awesome! 

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The only thing was that I omitted one very important issue, that is to check the encoder size vs the hole in the bezel  After printing the GTN I found it to be too narrow. The reason for this is actually the fact that it was designed with a completely different purpose then I expected - to mount the encoder screw, not the knob... Thus it was my bad.

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Fortunately, the bezel was printed in SLS technology. The material is very strong thus, making it ideal for drilling etc. I've used mounted grinding stones such as these:

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The result, as you can see, was at least satisfying 

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So that's it for now. I'm waiting for the Leobodnar BU0836X joystick board and for the plywood panel which I'm having cut to mount the GTNs and other cockpit elements. Here are the bezels I've printed so far:

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I'll keep you posted!

[Trooping]

Michael,

Wow the end result came out really nice!  I was wondering which rotary encoders you were going to use, I would have thought the Leo Bodnars.  Also what tactile switch's are you going to use for the direct to and home buttons?  Are you just using a 10" touchscreen behind the bezel?  If so any pictures of the other side and how you are mounting it to the bezel?

Well I guess I have to ask, are you going to make the plans available, or sell them?  I would love to get a copy and print a couple of these off for my own project...

Joe.

[blueskydriver]

-Hey Michael, glad to see things worked out for you...

-Hi Joe, read up above my post and look for Arturo, he is the one who designed the model, so you should ask him...he is an awesome guy!

John

[Trooping]

Ok thanks John Ill holla at him.

Joe.

[redman]

Michael,

Wow the end result came out really nice!  I was wondering which rotary encoders you were going to use, I would have thought the Leo Bodnars.  Also what tactile switch's are you going to use for the direct to and home buttons?  Are you just using a 10" touchscreen behind the bezel?  If so any pictures of the other side and how you are mounting it to the bezel?

Well I guess I have to ask, are you going to make the plans available, or sell them?  I would love to get a copy and print a couple of these off for my own project...

Joe.

Hi Joe,

Thanks for the good words As John mentioned in his post, the GTN bezel is Arthuro's design so please contact him.

Regarding the rotary encoder, I used the propwashsim encoder instead of the Leobodnar one. If I gad done it otherwise I probably wouldn't have to drill since Leo's encoders are simply longer... For home and direct to buttons I'm using normal tact switches such as the ones bellow, on top of which I've attached printed buttons by drilling holes in them:

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Yes, I'm using a 10" touch screen from Aliexpress. It's a few mm wider so it will be mounted behind the plywood panel that will have a cutout for the GTN bezel. I will take some pictures once I have this done, since I'm still waiting for the panel.

Michael