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Title: liners magic
Post by: jackpilot on September 24, 2012, 05:07:36 AM
Got liners and windows .
Easy to do but requires careful planning...visual satisfaction guaranteed!!
A big plus of surface mount yokes is that they can be moved away when needed  :D
Will post more pics when completed.

Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: AVIATor-Olav on September 24, 2012, 06:22:55 AM
They look great! Too bad there are no 727 liners available off the shelf! :P
Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: HondaCop on September 24, 2012, 07:51:44 AM
They look awesome, Jack!
Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: jackpilot on September 24, 2012, 08:21:29 AM
Quote from: AVIATor-Olav on September 24, 2012, 06:22:55 AM
They look great! Too bad there are no 727 liners available off the shelf! :P

Those would probably fit a 727, real ones must be avail but pretty well worn out !!. All depends on your own "realistic/pragmatic" ratio :D
Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: Joe Lavery on September 24, 2012, 02:10:51 PM
Jack,

They look really smart, are they the FDS ones?

Joe.
Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: N737AG on September 24, 2012, 03:20:52 PM
Jack

Isn't unpacking and putting them into the flightdeck just a great pleasure ? I remember mine ... felt like a child on Christmas day.

I'm happy for you Jack ... enjoy


Axel
Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: jackpilot on September 24, 2012, 04:40:10 PM
Yep, FDS stuff

Real nice
Pic was taken this morning and some 2 hours'work later the FO side is complete, including speakers hooked up and wiring for Grimes lights. Nice engineering. Left side will be a breeze
Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: DaveC on September 24, 2012, 05:54:07 PM
Looks really nice Jack.  Really jealous!

Dve C.
Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: ETomlin on September 24, 2012, 08:13:18 PM
Wow, Jack. That's really nice! I know you are proud of them. I'm super excited that I will be getting some nice liners too for the LJ45 from Shane Barnes. It really adds to the 'feel' doesnt it?!
Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: jackpilot on September 25, 2012, 04:49:56 AM
Thanks  Guys,
Two aspects, 1) you suddenly sit into something "finished" as opposed to a bare structure, wires hanging, see through parts etc which are not really credible. 2) with the windows on, the whole ambiant sound is different.
A bit like  sitting for the first time on a Weber/Ipeco and "buckling up" a harness after months spent on a folding wooden chair!   ;D

Great fun
Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: Joe Lavery on September 25, 2012, 10:46:18 AM
Geeezz... how much for the wooden chairs Jack... ;)
Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: Jetcos on September 25, 2012, 01:52:56 PM
I still have our plastic ones! Cheap...
Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: jackpilot on September 25, 2012, 07:42:59 PM
Ha! good ol 320 in the basement!!  precious.
Jack
Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: shaneb on September 26, 2012, 06:11:17 PM
Looks great Jack . . liners sure add to the overall feel!
Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: jackpilot on September 29, 2012, 03:32:47 PM
Spent the whole day finishing it.... what a big toy!!

Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: shaneb on September 29, 2012, 07:08:16 PM
Awesome!
Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: jackpilot on September 30, 2012, 05:11:12 AM
I have no real merit, just assembling a very well designed product.
A little bit of bracket adjutments (we are talking mm. here) to end up with a perfect fit.
All in all including positionning the roof speakers and a wire harness from front to back (just in case ) can be done in a day.

Windows: Held with double sided tape.
I followed Steve's instructions and managed well. Side windows are set inside, before installing the liners. As for front windshield I set them outside so that they can be removed (held with screws) which gives an easy access (glareshield removable too) to the MCP or top MIP spaghettis from outside the shell.
The Stock Boeing handles fit impeccably with 2 bolts. They are 100% effective (strong enough to be used as intended)


Jack
Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: shaneb on September 30, 2012, 12:57:47 PM
You have to appreciate a well designed product that fits/functions as it was designed.  Nothing worse than having to re-engineer because a product is faulty! 
Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: steveeverson on October 01, 2012, 08:00:03 AM
Hi Jack,
Looking great!. I want to make some replica handles and wondered if you would be able to post the dimensions.
cheers
Steve :)
Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: fordgt40 on October 01, 2012, 12:04:16 PM
Steve

Here you are

EDIT photos courtesy of Emesis.

Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: jackpilot on October 01, 2012, 04:59:49 PM
Steve,

The look is easy to duplicate, but they are a nice piece of engineering, they fold back and this is not easy to reproduce.
Check with Nick at APHIS he has some for a decent $
http://www.oncealoft.com/ (http://www.oncealoft.com/)
Just my 2ยข
Jack
Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: sluyt050 on November 15, 2012, 12:45:23 AM
Quote from: jackpilot on September 30, 2012, 05:11:12 AM
I have no real merit, just assembling a very well designed product.
A little bit of bracket adjutments (we are talking mm. here) to end up with a perfect fit.
All in all including positionning the roof speakers and a wire harness from front to back (just in case ) can be done in a day.

Windows: Held with double sided tape.
I followed Steve's instructions and managed well. Side windows are set inside, before installing the liners. As for front windshield I set them outside so that they can be removed (held with screws) which gives an easy access (glareshield removable too) to the MCP or top MIP spaghettis from outside the shell.
The Stock Boeing handles fit impeccably with 2 bolts. They are 100% effective (strong enough to be used as intended)


Jack

Great cockpit and pictures Jack! FDS makes really great products (I recently met Peter Cos in Lelystad).

I am just starting with the visuals here and like to go the same route concerning FDS nose section & liners.
Do you have a link to Steve's instructions?
And the wire harness you installed, could you tell a bit more on where you put it and the brand you used?

Thanks!
Title: Re: liners magic
Post by: jackpilot on November 15, 2012, 05:07:37 AM
Hi Edwad
Instructions come with the kit, basically intuitive.

I ran two harnesses, one on each side of the overhead (plenty of room) long enough to go from the back of the sim to well in front of the nose. Too long is never a problem.
About 10 color coded 22-24 gauge and five Heavy gauge for 12V lighting /relay etc + a few HD black grounds. Will probably never use them all but they are ready to roll.