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Title: Help with MIP items [SOLVED]
Post by: fsaviator on January 15, 2015, 12:04:09 PM
So...  I'm sitting here trying to figure out why I ran out of annunciators and still have holes in my FDS 2.0 MIP.  Then it dons on me that my MIP doesn't look like the others.  Then I further realize that not only do I have a bunch of annunciator holes I've never seen before.  It's about that time I realize my lower MIP GPWS panel has an extra annunciator hole...  wait, and an extra guarded switch hole!

I have nothing, to include the 737 companion, that tells me what goes in these holes.  I have gathered one of them is AUTOLAND and one may be something to do with runways...

Does anyone have a detailed layout of these new (to me) annunciators and the guarded switch?  Looking through Prosim I gather they are not (yet) supported.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Help with MIP items
Post by: Buster99 on January 15, 2015, 12:30:36 PM
Hello Warren,

Firstly I guess that FDS should be able to provide an insight on the additional switch and annunciators

Check out the Simworld MIP plug&play page.
It shows additional annunciators and they also give a (brief) description. It may have to do with RAAS.

I checked my NG technical manuals (dated 2003) but they do not show the extra switch for the GWPS panel nor the extra annunciators.
Info on the RAAS may be in there but so far I could not locate it (I also do not have a full set of the manuals)

Hope this helps,

Best Regards,
Marc
Title: Re: Help with MIP items
Post by: jackpilot on January 15, 2015, 04:09:15 PM
Warren

Check with Steve at FDS.
They keep current with the NG improvements
I had that (good)  surprise on my overhead (new annun)
Sim-Avionics follows on the soft side.

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: Help with MIP items
Post by: tennyson on January 15, 2015, 07:03:43 PM
Warren, as you know, I have the same MIP and they have included Take-OFF Config warning annunciators on both sides and the "stab out of trim" annunciator switch.
The switch is not supported, but the annunciators in the switch are.

Steve has sent me details and I'm happy to share them with you.

Let me know if you have any other queries,



Frank Cooper
Title: Re: Help with MIP items
Post by: fsaviator on January 15, 2015, 09:14:12 PM
Thanks guys.
I'll hit up Steve
Title: Re: Help with MIP items
Post by: TomR on January 16, 2015, 01:42:36 AM
Hi Warren,

- on both sides of the MIP, RED annunciator labelled CABIN ALTITUDE and TAKEOFF CONFIG
- GPWS panel, switch for RUNWAY (RAAS) and lower annunciator AMBER for RUNWAY labelled INOP
Title: Re: Help with MIP items
Post by: fsaviator on January 16, 2015, 03:04:01 AM
Thanks Thomas!  Perfect!
Title: Re: Help with MIP items
Post by: milezee on January 16, 2015, 03:18:50 AM
Quote from: TomR on January 16, 2015, 01:42:36 AM
Hi Warren,

- on both sides of the MIP, RED annunciator labelled CABIN ALTITUDE and TAKEOFF CONFIG


Yes, these were added after the infamous helios inccident, but there is not much call for them in a sim.

see:

http://www.b737.org.uk/pressurisation.htm#Cabin_Altitude_Warning_Horn (http://www.b737.org.uk/pressurisation.htm#Cabin_Altitude_Warning_Horn)
Title: Re: Help with MIP items
Post by: fsaviator on January 16, 2015, 05:00:20 AM
Quote from: milezee on January 16, 2015, 03:18:50 AM
Quote from: TomR on January 16, 2015, 01:42:36 AM
Hi Warren,

- on both sides of the MIP, RED annunciator labelled CABIN ALTITUDE and TAKEOFF CONFIG


Yes, these were added after the infamous helios inccident, but there is not much call for them in a sim.

see:

http://www.b737.org.uk/pressurisation.htm#Cabin_Altitude_Warning_Horn (http://www.b737.org.uk/pressurisation.htm#Cabin_Altitude_Warning_Horn)

Absolutely agree, Milezee

However the MIP has holes there so I have to fill them with something
Title: Re: Help with MIP items
Post by: Flying_Fox on January 16, 2015, 08:04:13 AM
I added Takeoff Config and Cabin Altitude annunciators to my MIP (previous FDS version). Takeoff Config kicks in all the time with improper takeoff config - say throttles on 60% and parking brake on, or flaps not out. Really helps. :)