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Title: Microsoft 2020
Post by: Joe Lavery on October 03, 2019, 10:35:23 pm
Hi All,
In case you haven't seen it there's a lot of new data concerning this new simulator. Which surprisingly is starting to look very interesting.
It would seem that Microsoft are keen to get it right this time; of course time will tell but first impressions from people who are usually quite critical have been very positive.
The link below is from Froogle who used to work for PC Pilot, he still offers quite a balanced overview, with live Q and A footage from the developers Asobo Studios.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj8h6yibHHc

I wasn't invited to attend, (obviously not important enough), anyway I was in San Diego on holiday with my family at the time. It was my first visit to the US, we had a wonderful time, so it won't be my last.

Joe.
Title: Re: Microsoft 2020
Post by: Trevor Hale on October 04, 2019, 03:08:00 am
Joe, thanks for your input. 

Of the people I have spoke with. Most are sceptical as we have been bitten by the Microsoft bug before. Let all hope they do make it right this time and do things in a way that won't make the endeavour of interfacing impossible. 

Crossing my fingers. 

From what I have seen thus far. I am pleasantly optimistic. 

Trev
Title: Re: Microsoft 2020
Post by: Joe Lavery on October 04, 2019, 05:29:08 pm
As you say Trev, cautiously optimistic, which seems to be the attitude of most people I've spoken to.

The trouble is Flight looked good from the advertising, but was way too limiting for the members of this forum. The same applies to Flight Sim World.
I believe this product will be subscription based, so uses will have to pay a yearly fee to use it. They haven't said so, or denied it either, but because it's going to be a mainly online product it would make sense.

Still we'll have to wait and see, it's only in a Pre Alpha state yet, so I'm sure more information will filter through as it gets closer to completion. I was surprised to hear that Asobo have been working on this for five years, how did they keep it a secret for that long?

Joe.
Title: Re: Microsoft 2020
Post by: indigoer on February 24, 2020, 10:25:10 pm
Damn it looks so realistic. If I hadn`t been told, I'd never have guessed that it was CG
Title: Re: Microsoft 2020
Post by: bernard S on February 25, 2020, 05:27:56 am
you all know i have a huge sim with collimated displays and i am telling you its  actually   is a game changer   period end of story the fat lady has sung and left the stage ..... even if it is subscription based (which i doubt)   just pay it.
Title: Re: Microsoft 2020
Post by: tennyson on February 25, 2020, 05:32:55 am
Couldn't have said it better myself....
Title: Re: Microsoft 2020
Post by: FredK on February 25, 2020, 06:24:47 am
Two questions not exactly clear yet (at least to me):

(1) How well does it perform for multi-screen? and is multi-channel possible (or necessary for that matter)?

(2) Will independent avionics programs (i.e., SimA, ProSim, etc.) be possible, or even necessary for a full cockpit, high fidelity setup?

I have been following the other forums and there is very little to say on all that so far.

The visuals are incredible for sure, but relative to the above I have bridled my expectations for an out-of-the-box product when MSFS20 first releases.  Perhaps all that will happen, but will lag a bit. I hope I am wrong of course!

Any insights to report?

Fred K
Title: Re: Microsoft 2020
Post by: Trevor Hale on February 25, 2020, 09:46:52 am
Quote from: FredK on February 25, 2020, 06:24:47 amTwo questions not exactly clear yet (at least to me):

(1) How well does it perform for multi-screen? and is multi-channel possible (or necessary for that matter)?

(2) Will independent avionics programs (i.e., SimA, ProSim, etc.) be possible, or even necessary for a full cockpit, high fidelity setup?

I have been following the other forums and there is very little to say on all that so far.

The visuals are incredible for sure, but relative to the above I have bridled my expectations for an out-of-the-box product when MSFS20 first releases.  Perhaps all that will happen, but will lag a bit. I hope I am wrong of course!

Any insights to report?

Fred K
Fred. 

can't speak too much about it. But. Based on performance I doubt there will be a need however. The current multi channel stuff is running across a sim connect communications network and they have confirmed sim connect is still in there as well as a bunch of added variables never accessible before. 

Asobo is very aware of the home simulator community and ensuring compatibility or SDK information to allow developers to patch their gear. 

as was discussed in my last stream there has been NDA discussions with hardware manufacturers to work on compatibility issues. 

it's going to be stellar.
Title: Re: Microsoft 2020
Post by: FredK on February 25, 2020, 09:59:33 am
Quote from: Trevor Hale on February 25, 2020, 09:46:52 am
Quote from: FredK on February 25, 2020, 06:24:47 amTwo questions not exactly clear yet (at least to me):

(1) How well does it perform for multi-screen? and is multi-channel possible (or necessary for that matter)?

(2) Will independent avionics programs (i.e., SimA, ProSim, etc.) be possible, or even necessary for a full cockpit, high fidelity setup?

I have been following the other forums and there is very little to say on all that so far.

The visuals are incredible for sure, but relative to the above I have bridled my expectations for an out-of-the-box product when MSFS20 first releases.  Perhaps all that will happen, but will lag a bit. I hope I am wrong of course!

Any insights to report?

Fred K
Fred.

can't speak too much about it. But. Based on performance I doubt there will be a need however. The current multi channel stuff is running across a sim connect communications network and they have confirmed sim connect is still in there as well as a bunch of added variables never accessible before.

Asobo is very aware of the home simulator community and ensuring compatibility or SDK information to allow developers to patch their gear.

as was discussed in my last stream there has been NDA discussions with hardware manufacturers to work on compatibility issues.

it's going to be stellar.

Trev....Fair enough, but seeing is believing, and so far....no see....which is essentially my point.

That said,  I am hoping (and praying) for the best on this of course.

Fred K
Title: Re: Microsoft 2020
Post by: tennyson on February 25, 2020, 11:30:41 am
Being that there are over 6000 Alpha testers now, there are a fair proportion of cockpit builders in there.

Those things mentioned would be of high importance to them and no doubt there is recognition of that on Asobo's side.

Added to that, there are 30 Add-on manufacturers who already have the SDK.

You are right to be skeptical, with Microsofts track record, Fred, but it's gonna be a brand new world....literally


Frank