Piper Aztec PA23-250 (Help Needed)

[Jay 737]

Hello
I'm in a need of little help from somebody with access to Piper PA23 250 Aztec.
I've recently acquired an old FNPT2 simulator, build upon this particular model.
However, after a few tens of hours working on the refurb, I realized that the seating position feels way off from natural. Yokes and the panel are really high up as well as the rudder pedals being set quite far away from the seat.

This build of a full-scale home cockpit is my life long dream so I obviously want to get it right. I would like to verify a few of the dimensions from the real thing if possible.
Unfortunately, there isn't too much information about Aztec on the internet as this kind of aircraft seems to be endangered species nowadays:)

Any help or advice would be very appreciated.
Thank you in advance
Jay

[jackpilot]

Panels are usually fairly high in that generation of AC (even in a 172 !)
It does not answer your question but my 2 cents is to make it so that you feel comfortable flying it for hours, and fit to your own body measurements.

[navymustang]

Jay, I'm like you - I want to build my sims to full scale and replicate the real aircraft. Here is a link that you could follow if you want to buy the PA-23 parts manual and use the drawings to get scale.

https://gsplanestuff.com/products/piper-apache-pa-23-150-pa-23-160-parts-manual

https://picclick.ca/Piper-Service-Manual-Pa-23-150-252509200140.html

[N4208T]

GlobalAir.com has the overall dimensions for all the Piper aircraft and the interior dimensions of the Aztec (later model I think) and the Seneca are identical.  If you are interested in using a Seneca as the base platform for your planning, there is an excellent resource both on YouTube and Facebook showing the construction of a beautiful Seneca simulator.  Here is a link:  https://www.facebook.com/Piper-Seneca-V-Simulator-209186236194797/   If you find a head on view of both actual panels you should be able to infer the actual dimensions of the Aztec by comparing it to the Seneca by measuring standard instruments to establish a scale.

Hope this helps. 

Steve

PS - there is also another one online with some really nice build pics of the complete enclosure and build but, for the life of me, I do not remember where I found it or what site it was on.  I have a bunch of these pics which you are welcome to. 

[Joe Lavery]

This is a link to the 684 page parts manual for the Piper PA 23-235-250, Hope it's of some help.
And you don't have to pay for it. 

http://www.aeroelectric.com/Reference_Docs/Piper/pa-23-235-250_pcv1984.pdf

Joe.

[Jay 737]

Thank you very much for your replies guys.
I forgot to mention I live in the UK. Does anybody know if there are any Aztecs here?
Or any kind of register where I could find and contact the owner?

Regards
Jay

[Joe Lavery]

I also live n the UK and have a PPL.

The CAA keep a register of all G- aircraft, I did a search and there are no Aztecs listed but there are 35 PA23 listed.
You can contact any of the owners who are listed in the register, but only by address. Unless you can track down a phone or email from the address only.

Look here:
https://siteapps.caa.co.uk/g-info/

Click the advanced option at the bottom of the page (below the normal search), then you can search for all sorts of items.

Hope that helps.

Joe.