A MUST for all 73 builders

[jackpilot]

(I know that you already know ...but just in case U do not.)

I just answered a very specific question on another forum, not because I Know the 73 inside out, but thanks to this book...

For 90% (if not 99%) of questions about what does what , when , and what for...
Best investment for any Cockpit builder.

http://www.cockpitcompanion.com/servlet/the-COCKPIT-COMPANIONS/Categories

[XOrionFE]

Thanks Jack!
Sounds exactly like what I need.   Just ordered a copy.

Scott

[Bob Reed]

His books are great! I have his FMC guide as well. Another book you should have.

[Sean]

Another for the collection...



http://www.b737.org.uk/book.htm

[JWS]

I got both Bill Bulfers guides and just received for my birthday the opus magnus by Chris Brady. Jeez, I end up reading more than building and flying.

JWS

[Boeing Skunk Works]

Knowing something about the aircraft you are building and flying is a good thing.

I see too many on other forums that don't have the first clue about the aircraft they are attempting to fly, nor do they care. 

Unless you're Mike Levy, most of us have very limited information about our aircraft compared to our professional counterparts. Any source of good, understandable professional information is a gold mine in this hobby. It's really too bad that more people are not interested in the why's and how's these aircraft function and how they are correctly operated.

I know I harp on this a lot, but what's the point in building a full-size aircraft simulator if you aren't going to operate it as it was designed?

I love aircraft manuals, booklets, pamphlets, diagrams, schematics, professional guides, etc. Anything and everything that has anything to do with my airplane I want to read. I want to know everything there is to know, and the why's and how's.

FEED ME KNOWLEDGE!

[ETomlin]

Hear, hear!

Absolutely. This is something I have really been pushing on some of my LJ45 guys. Learn the airplane from an operational point of view- it will make a big difference in how you see the plane.

[jackpilot]

Agreed.
This is also why it might be better to concentrate on One aircraft and learn how to operate it "properly" rather than flying many in an incomplete and approximate way. But this is a personal choice of course.
Digesting all the data and SOP of one specific type can keep you busy for months and even then  we would not pass a type rating in a pro sim! (let alone go through all emergency procedures).
My2¢ only.

[ETomlin]

Maybe we could pass a type rating, maybe not. 

I love to retell the story of a day when I got about 30 minutes up front in a US Navy 737 at NAS Jax. The guy escorting me (I worked on base as a contractor) could not BELIEVE how much I knew on the start up procedure from memory, as I was at that time a heavy PMDG 737NG user and 737 sim builder wannabee (aka, planner). Between knowing the startup procedure and knowing how to program the FMC, the guy was well impressed. So was I! 

[carlos hermida]

   Yes, this is the best guide and consider the FMC guide from him too. They are a must have for all builder in my opinion !

[mpl330]

Hi,

If anyone is interested I have the following for sale in good condition:
http://www.cockpitcompanion.com/servlet/the-4/737-Combo-Cockpit-Companion/Detail

On the website it says does not cover BBJ but inside the cover it states:
-300/-400/-500/-600/-700/-800/-900
BBJ / BBJ2


PM me if interested...
Cheers
Mike

[Boeing Skunk Works]

Agreed.
This is also why it might be better to concentrate on One aircraft and learn how to operate it "properly" rather than flying many in an incomplete and approximate way. But this is a personal choice of course.
Digesting all the data and SOP of one specific type can keep you busy for months and even then  we would not pass a type rating in a pro sim! (let alone go through all emergency procedures).
My2¢ only.

Like Eric said, maybe we could and maybe we couldn't. I guess it depends upon how much one aplies oneself in learning the aircraft and memorizing procedural items.

I have the upgrade training course material for the 727 and have studied it extensively. I'm confident I could pass a checkride and the oral.

[jackpilot]

Flight test

...(just pushing the enveloppe  )
Scenario:
IMC, gusts, vis ¼ mile, turbulence so strong that you miss the knobs and digits are blurred! (u Know what I mean). Slightly (of course only slightly) sick ...well not sick because we never are (in non motion sims) but not 100% optimum, having to reconfigure for the alternate because of heavy Thunderstorms, low fuel of course and abnormal vib with#2.
Turning in for final ,Loc and glide go inop, hopefully the NDB and markers will hold, checking the approach plate for altitudes and starting the countdown to the FAF (Sh.. that stupid chrono button is stuck)...one patatoe two patatoes...hey left gear still stowed, pump?
ADF steady...#2 ..big WHAM , nicely spooling out.. bells going.. delicate balance between rudder and thrust to keep her aligned..etc etc..
Missing from the scenario...passengers screams .
Plus the fact that crew ressources management can make the difference between "to be or not to be"...compounded by the fact that for most of us the FO is 100% incapacitated

not easy.. not easy... GOOD CLEAN FUN, NOBODY GOT HURT

[XOrionFE]

Nice Jack,

Reminds me of my P-3 FE sim rides.  Something like...

During start on number 4...flashing feather valve light (or something like that)...but engine starts anyway..what does that mean?   Continue mission?   Ok good to go but just remember not to loiter that engine on station or it will never restart..better placard the #4  feather button...

Hour later...somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic....and after 5 or 6 other tests of failures or abnormalities

Arriving on station...descend to 1000 ft and let's start dropping buoys...

Captain calls for shutting down an engine for loiter and max on station endurance.   He says shut down #4 and the ever obedient engineer that I am I reach up grabbing the #4 feather button and confidently state "I got # 4" to which he replies "you've got 4". "shutting down 4" I say and pull the button.   Good shutdown and feather and we go through the normal loiter checklist.

Then a voice from behind......"YOUR ALL DEAD"!

"but why I ask?"....then the lightbulb goes off..."damn, forgot to placard that button"...ugh..can't restart it...can't climb back to altitude on 3....not enough fuel to make it back to shore.....can't land this thing on a carrier.....were ditching in the middle of the Atlantic and swimming with the sharks....

Better luck next time......oh the memories...:-)

Scott

[Bob Reed]

Scott... Loved it! Jack very nice!!

[Boeing Skunk Works]

Be a lot easier with the proper number of crew!

[MLeavy737]

wind, WX, fuel, changing approaches, changing runways, pax medical emergencies, red eyes, tired, mergers, distractions.... these things happen all the time.. thats the job..

heres something you dont see everyday...

Just SOME of the problems the QANTAS A380 guys had in Singapore last week , in addition to the enginefailure....

* massive fuel leak in the left mid fuel tank (the SOB has 11 tanks, including in the horizontal stabiliser on the tail)
* massive fuel leak in the left inner fuel tank
* a hole on the flap canoe/fairing that you could fit you rupper body through.
* the aft gallery in the fuel system failed, preventin gmany fuel transfer functions
* fuel jettison had problems due to the previous problem above
* huge hole in the upper wing surface
* partial failure of leading edge slats
* partial failure of speed brakes/ground spoilers
* shrapnel damage to the flaps
* TOTAL loss of all hydraulic fluid in the Green System(SOB has 2 x 5,000 PSI systems, Green andYellow)
* manual extension of landing gear
* loss of 1 generator and associated systems
* loss of brake anti-skid system
* unable to shutdown adjacent #1 engine using normal method after landing due to major damage to systems
* unable to shutdown adjacent #1 engine using using the fire switch!!!!!!!!
Therefore, no fire protection was available for that engin eafter the explosion in#2
* ECAM warnings about major fuel imbalance because of fue lleaks on left side, that were UNABLE to be fixed with cross-feeding
* fuel trapped in Trim Tank (in the tail). Therefore, possible major CG out-of-balance condition for landing. Yikes!
* and much more tocome..........

Mike Leavy

[Boeing Skunk Works]

That sucks for them. They don't even have an FE to help with that mess either.

[carlos hermida]

  no words man...and much more failures to come? God !

[jskibo]

That sucks for them. They don't even have an FE to help with that mess either.

No FE, but reports that 5 pilots were aboard that flight.  3 Capt, an FO and an SO

[JWS]

Knowing something about the aircraft you are building and flying is a good thing.

I see too many on other forums that don't have the first clue about the aircraft they are attempting to fly, nor do they care. 

Unless you're Mike Levy, most of us have very limited information about our aircraft compared to our professional counterparts. Any source of good, understandable professional information is a gold mine in this hobby. It's really too bad that more people are not interested in the why's and how's these aircraft function and how they are correctly operated.

I know I harp on this a lot, but what's the point in building a full-size aircraft simulator if you aren't going to operate it as it was designed?

Although I'm not building a full sized cockpit, I agree on this absolutely. And even if the technical stuff sometimes (?) goes way over my head, I love manuals and especially things that tell me how certain aspects are done in reality. After I learned about the CDAP (through Mike Ray's 737 Check ride book) , I have haven't touched the app button for at least a month. Did not do an ILS for weeks.

Grtz,

JWS